Why Are Men Allowed To Be So Disrespectful?

[vidman]

WTF are you talking about? Hell those are all my girls that I shot and I luv each and everyone of their asses - but what you're saying doesn't make sense.

Let's keep it in perspective. You never saw these girls until you saw them shooting a load on this site. All that is on here is nasty, dick-sucking, cum busting scenes so if a guy relates to that, why does he have self esteem issues? He's talking about the very reason why he's here. The very reason for the product that we push.

Like I said in a previous post, you are entitled to your opinion and to express it but this is PORN people. This is not URNOTALONE or Hung Angels. A guy shouldnt get bashed if he thinks nasty thoughts about tgirls on a PORN SITE.

No, what the ef are you talking about! Apparently, Mr. Dirty South, you didn't read the entire content of my dialogue with the other guy. Since you decided to interject half cocked, let me hip you to the entire conversation.

Our conversation was about guys who could or couldn't fall in love with transsexual women in the porn industry. My argument was that I could definitely be with an industry girl. He insisted on trying to call me stupid (in so many words) for feeling the way I felt. His point was that once I saw a film session in person, that my feelings would change. Once I saw a transsexual get cum shot in her mouth and down her throat, I wouldn't feel that way about her anymore.

I totally disagree. That wouldn't change my opinion of that particular girl, not at all. If I was attracted to her and if we had astounding chemistry and if we both truly loved each other, I could deal with it. This is truly the way I feel. I don't care if he, you or anyone else believes it or not. I know how I feel and that's all that matters to me. Now, in looking at the general concensus, most guys on here agree with me. There are a lot of other comments on here of guys who would still date a girl in the industry.

Oh yeah, I hate to burst your bubble Dirty, but most of these girls were shot before you were even introduced to the BTG team. I've been an admirer of transsexual women since about 1999. Did you even know any transsexuals then (sarcastically)? If I can recall, Steve shot most of these girls before you did. You do know Steve right? Yeah, he was shooting the southern girls prior to your arrival.

So, to clear up your misunderstanding....the discussion I had with the other gentleman was not about "if guys should say negative comments on this site about the girls in the industry." Our conversation had diverted to whether "a guy could fall in love with an industry transsexual." He says no a guy can't fall in love. I say yes he can.

I have no problem with what he says about any girl on this site, that's totally his opinion. Afterall, this is a porn site. Opinions, negative or positive, are formed here daily. But I have my views about the girls as well and as far as I'm concerned, they are all beautiful regardless of how much escorting, strolling, prostituting, body massages, etc, etc they do. If I'm in love with her, shit I'm in love.

[Ms Remy M]

eh, I hear what your saying Vidman. I read your argument when initially posted, and chose not to comment because yeah you can be in a relationship with a porn actress or escort. However; by your own argument, it being successful hinges on the fact that the two of you truly love each other. Real love takes time to develop, and if she's already in the adult industry and ya'll just hooking up, then you are having to deal with all that in your face sexual situations between her and her co-stars/clients without said benefit of having that "true love" developed yet. so I kind of have to agree, it's not as easy as it looks. Congrats, on feeling like you have the mental stability to deal with that kind of situation, but it's one thing to talk the talk, actually take that first step and gain some real world experince, there was too many "IF's" in your situation for me.

I do want to say that, some find a 'out of sight, out of mind' philosphy better. Just because she's a porn actress doesn't mean you have to be at her shoots, (I personally, almost always forbid BF from coming to a shoot, though I've allowed so once or twice). You might simply find comfort in trusting that she's remaining professional and taking care of business, but again, trust is earned, not handed out like paper cups.

Say what you want about the previous ATL photog and all the great finds he brought to the site. DS brings a much better product and level of style to the table. Just imagine how many more top notch shoots would be on this site, if it had been DS running the ATL all along instead of the 'other guy'.

[vidman]

eh, I hear what your saying Vidman. I read your argument when initially posted, and chose not to comment because yeah you can be in a relationship with a porn actress or escort. However; by your own argument, it being successful hinges on the fact that the two of you truly love each other. Real love takes time to develop, and if she's already in the adult industry and ya'll just hooking up, then you are having to deal with all that in your face sexual situations between her and her co-stars/clients without said benefit of having that "true love" developed yet. so I kind of have to agree, it's not as easy as it looks. Congrats, on feeling like you have the mental stability to deal with that kind of situation, but it's one thing to talk the talk, actually take that first step and gain some real world experince, there was too many "IF's" in your situation for me.

I do want to say that, some find a 'out of sight, out of mind' philosphy better. Just because she's a porn actress doesn't mean you have to be at her shoots, (I personally, almost always forbid BF from coming to a shoot, though I've allowed so once or twice). You might simply find comfort in trusting that she's remaining professional and taking care of business, but again, trust is earned, not handed out like paper cups.

Say what you want about the previous ATL photog and all the great finds he brought to the site. DS brings a much better product and level of style to the table. Just imagine how many more top notch shoots would be on this site, if it had been DS running the ATL all along instead of the 'other guy'.

Remy, I feel what you're saying. The only catch to my story is that I've been in a relationship with a girl in the industry before and I didn't have a problem with it. The only thing that got in our way was the 900 miles that lay between us. Other than that, I was okay with it. I knew that she was "working" to make money but her feelings resided with me. That was all the comfort I needed to carry on. I know it sounds funny to someone listening to my dilemma and thinking that "if he can put up with the girl being in the industry, then he should have been very well capable of swinging a long distance relationship." Distance didn't bring about trust issues. The distance brought about frustrations because we couldn't see each other when we wanted to. I stand 100% convicted in my beliefs. I can absolutely date a TS girl in the porn industry. Yes, I most certainly could. If we have vowed and demonstrated a true love for each other, I'm totally secure.

DirtySouth does EXCELLENT work! No doubt about it!! I give him the ultimate credit. I was only chastising him because he came in on the tail end of the conversation without knowing exactly who said what and what the entire debate was about.

Yeah, I keep in touch with tons of TS girls and quite a few of them told me the horror stories about "the other guy." I'm glad to have DS on the BTG Team. I'm actually quite jealous of him. What better profession to have!! Taking pictures of beautiful transsexuals all day, seeing them get naked and freaky and getting paid to do it!!! I'm green with envy. lol.

[DirtySouth]

I totally disagree. That wouldn't change my opinion of that particular girl, not at all. If I was attracted to her and if we had astounding chemistry and if we both truly loved each other, I could deal with it. This is truly the way I feel. I don't care if he, you or anyone else believes it or not. I know how I feel and that's all that matters to me. Now, in looking at the general concensus, most guys on here agree with me. There are a lot of other comments on here of guys who would still date a girl in the industry.

Well hey, if you're into sharing your girl with everyone with the cash to buy her time, I cant hate you for that.

Oh yeah, I hate to burst your bubble Dirty, but most of these girls were shot before you were even introduced to the BTG team. I've been an admirer of transsexual women since about 1999. Did you even know any transsexuals then (sarcastically)? If I can recall, Steve shot most of these girls before you did. You do know Steve right? Yeah, he was shooting the southern girls prior to your arrival.

I hate to burst YOUR bubble since you didnt do your homework homey. I've been at it since 1998. So the question is when I was at it, did YOU know any transsexual women? Yeah I know someone was shooting the girls prior to my arrival but did you stop to ask yourself why I'm here and he's not? How is that even a valid point? George Gervin was playing ball way before Kobe Bryant, who do people remember more?

It's just a forum bro. No one is attacking your personally. If thats your thing, thats your thing. We all been there.

[vidman]

Well hey, if you're into sharing your girl with everyone with the cash to buy her time, I cant hate you for that.



I hate to burst YOUR bubble since you didnt do your homework homey. I've been at it since 1998. So the question is when I was at it, did YOU know any transsexual women? Yeah I know someone was shooting the girls prior to my arrival but did you stop to ask yourself why I'm here and he's not? How is that even a valid point? George Gervin was playing ball way before Kobe Bryant, who do people remember more?

It's just a forum bro. No one is attacking your personally. If thats your thing, thats your thing. We all been there.

George who? LOL. Just kidding Dirty. You cool with me dude. I admire your work man. You do an excellent job. I'm not questioning your professional prowess one iota. All I can say is I wish I was your co-worker. Help me out Dirty. I know tons of girls from all over. I've seen guys request lots of girls that I know personally. I would love to be a photog. I saw the ad that Seanchai sent out requesting photographers. The reason I didn't respond is because he referenced the Canada area. I don't know any girls up that way, but I know them from coast to coast, within the U.S. Put a word in for me.

[DirtySouth]

George who? LOL. Just kidding Dirty. You cool with me dude. I admire your work man. You do an excellent job. I'm not questioning your professional prowess one iota. All I can say is I wish I was your co-worker. Help me out Dirty. I know tons of girls from all over. I've seen guys request lots of girls that I know personally. I would love to be a photog. I saw the ad that Seanchai sent out requesting photographers. The reason I didn't respond is because he referenced the Canada area. I don't know any girls up that way, but I know them from coast to coast, within the U.S. Put a word in for me.

Where do you reside now?

[TsVanessa69]

eh, I hear what your saying Vidman. I read your argument when initially posted, and chose not to comment because yeah you can be in a relationship with a porn actress or escort. However; by your own argument, it being successful hinges on the fact that the two of you truly love each other. Real love takes time to develop, and if she's already in the adult industry and ya'll just hooking up, then you are having to deal with all that in your face sexual situations between her and her co-stars/clients without said benefit of having that "true love" developed yet. so I kind of have to agree, it's not as easy as it looks. Congrats, on feeling like you have the mental stability to deal with that kind of situation, but it's one thing to talk the talk, actually take that first step and gain some real world experince, there was too many "IF's" in your situation for me.

I do want to say that, some find a 'out of sight, out of mind' philosphy better. Just because she's a porn actress doesn't mean you have to be at her shoots, (I personally, almost always forbid BF from coming to a shoot, though I've allowed so once or twice). You might simply find comfort in trusting that she's remaining professional and taking care of business, but again, trust is earned, not handed out like paper cups.

Say what you want about the previous ATL photog and all the great finds he brought to the site. DS brings a much better product and level of style to the table. Just imagine how many more top notch shoots would be on this site, if it had been DS running the ATL all along instead of the 'other guy'.

May I say back off my baby DS!
I LOVED working with him and I love my photo's.
His work speaks for it self, and I most definatly am not embarrassed to show off this shoot.
Clearly a step above others, and his personality won me over after the first 5 minutes.
Clearly my best shoot to date!

[DirtySouth]

May I say back off my baby DS!
I LOVED working with him and I love my photo's.
His work speaks for it self, and I most definatly am not embarrassed to show off this shoot.
Clearly a step above others, and his personality won me over after the first 5 minutes.
Clearly my best shoot to date!

Thanks V ;-) You're certainly one of my favorite models - great personality.

[vidman]

Where do you reside now?

Dirty, I currently reside in Atlanta. I know that you are handling this area, but I would definitely be willing to travel to other places just for the opportunity to shoot for BTG. Or maybe, since there is such an abundance of girls here in the Georgia, Florida, Carolina area, I could help you cover the territory. I'm willing to get in where I fit in.

Hey, thanks for responding man. Much appreciated.