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    Regarding the price increase and the New Years announcment -

    So I understand that need, fully, I really do. And for most of your members this won't seem like anything at all. But for fans of transwomen with transwomen content it represents the continual relegation of a niche of a niche.

    So for those of us who do not like the majority of your content, as it’s overwhelmingly featuring males in them, we wind up getting the short end of the stick again. I joined for six months at $110, reoccurring. Will that change to the new $130 upon the next resign period? Or will that be for new members only. (I get it for the new signups, didn't know if my price was going to go up for resign or not.)

    Further, we’ve already experienced a reduction in the content that was planned for 2021, announced in your New Years update. So now there’s a content reduction and a price increase.

    “This is the first price increase in a number of years, and on our top sites it's only a $1 a month increase.”

    That’s the one that also really irks – hard to get male free TS content and then this site [Tgirls.porn, only site I am joined up to at Grooby, as I want transwomen content that is male free only and it's incredibly hard to get] will go up 20 dollars/6 months on top of that. All the time the TS/M content gets preference, gets priority and those fans of male free TS content get the short end of the stick. That's the only reason I’ll likely never be a member at any of your other sites across your network – too many males, not enough TS/TS or TS/F content.

    What I would appreciate with this increase in cost is to see an increase in content, male free.

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    Regarding the New Years Update:

    “We also gave away a lot of free memberships earlier in lockdown, and some unbeatable deals to try and make your money go a little further.” - Missed out on that, paid full price and it looks like it’s going to go up from there.

    “I understand not every set is for every person” – fans of male free TS content are routinely relegated to a niche of a niche. Most sets you produce across your sites aren’t for me, as they feature men in them. Solos, well, they are what they are but I’m already members at various sites that seem to produce nothing but solos, solo after solo after solo. There’s pretty much no reason for me to consider even looking at your other sites as it’s all overwhelmingly either solo or TS/M. And it's a bummer as you produce great content!

    “So what does 2021 have in store? Sadly, many of the ideas we had for 2020 (a model from each state, big boob days, etc.) and had started up until March, are going to continue to be on hold, as we navigate getting enough quality content for each site while some areas are still in lockdown.”

    So continual less content but more cost? And Foot Friday, my biggest and most sought after Holy Grail … gone. (Props to Radius Dark for taking care of us foot fans in his sets on Tgirls.porn, truly a credit to the business)

    - “as soon as able, we're going to start traveling again and setting up some 'special' shoots across the world. These will be more involved, with a little more staging but still the typical Grooby look/feel.”

    For us too? Fans of TS/TS content? No males? Or will these special shoots be only for your TS/M sites?

    So yeah, just a few words of frustration from a fan of male free transwomen content regarding the state of things. Apologies.

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    Thanks for taking the time to email - but I'm finding it hard to grasp someone being upset about a $3/month) increase (on a 6 month membership). The last time this site had an increase was 2016 - that's 5 years of server, staff wages, health care, production fees, paying for testing (most scenes used to be condoms) and all the other increases that come with inflation which we haven't passed onto the customer, on a site which although pays it's rent - is by far one of less profitable.

    I've always believed in transparency between the company, the models, producers and those who support us - most companies don't inform customers what they're doing and although I stand by this ethos, it becomes frustrating when my posts are misconstrued or used incorrectly to validate someone's assumptions.

    Let me address your points - and if it sounds obtuse it's because some of your views/points are incredulous.

    But for fans of transwomen with transwomen content it represents the continual relegation of a niche of a niche.
    An utterly absurd take on this. We're delivering the same content, nothing is being 'relegated'. The fees went up a little, so we can not only continue to deliver the content which you want - but pay the models and the producers more.

    So for those of us who do not like the majority of your content, as it’s overwhelmingly featuring males in them, we wind up getting the short end of the stick again.
    More inanity. How do you get the short end of the stick? The prices on all the sites went up - and you still get the sane amount of content as we've always delivered on Tgirls.porn. This is just silly hyperbole.

    I joined for six months at $110, reoccurring. Will that change to the new $130 upon the next resign period?
    I believe this is the first membership you've had for the site - and I do thank you for joining, I don't know where you were getting the girl/girl content before this, but for your under $20 a month you are not only getting new content weekly but the last 6 years of content. There may be some price changes on existing membership fees but those affected will be contacted beforehand, or notified on the site. Just like Netflix (who I believe have increased their price 3x in the same period), or your telephone contract (who increase each year).

    Further, we’ve already experienced a reduction in the content that was planned for 2021, announced in your New Years update. So now there’s a content reduction and a price increase.
    I have absolutely no idea where you would get that from - our commitment to Tgirls.porn is to continue with weekly updates, where have you extrapolated the content reduction?

    That’s the one that also really irks – hard to get male free TS content and then this site [Tgirls.porn, only site I am joined up to at Grooby, as I want transwomen content that is male free only and it's incredibly hard to get] will go up 20 dollars/6 months on top of that.
    You're making my point for me, the content is hard to get because it's less appealing to the majority of people ergo, less income from it and thus having to charge a little more. The sites that 'only went up a $1' were GroobyGirls, BlackTgirls, Tgirls.xxx - and already cost more than Tgirls.porn as well as having had small increases ($1) two years ago. It seems you are more irked that they only get a $1 increase while yours is $3 - you are still paying less then they are and getting what you want.

    What I would appreciate with this increase in cost is to see an increase in content, male free.
    And where does the budget come from that? We can increase to 2x updates a week (for a site increase of about 75% - so $52.50 a month, or every second week we could have a second set for a 50% increase (so $45 a month) but I think those would price increases would 'irk' more people and result in the site eventually failing.

    “We also gave away a lot of free memberships earlier in lockdown, and some unbeatable deals to try and make your money go a little further.” - Missed out on that, paid full price and it looks like it’s going to go up from there.
    Bless. In the 25 years we've been online you've contributed $110 to our production. I don't want to be dismissive but do you realize how entitled and ridiculous that statement is. You just joined in January and got 292 scenes and one per week (24 during your membership) on Tgirls.porn costing you 0.37c per scene, and your whining about us giving away a site for free to members who've supported us for decades and throughout the hard times, during the main lockdown period. Why weren't you a member in 2020?

    “I understand not every set is for every person” – fans of male free TS content are routinely relegated to a niche of a niche. Most sets you produce across your sites aren’t for me, as they feature men in them. Solos, well, they are what they are but I’m already members at various sites that seem to produce nothing but solos, solo after solo after solo. There’s pretty much no reason for me to consider even looking at your other sites as it’s all overwhelmingly either solo or TS/M. And it's a bummer as you produce great content!
    I actually don't know of any other sites that produce solo content in the trans niche other than ours. That's fine that they're not for you, not all our sites are intended for everyone, some like solos, some only hardcore, some like earlier transition, some further along, some have preferences on colour, size, age or country. You're lucky, for what you like there is a whole site dedicated to it. Why would we 'irk' those who like male/trans content (if which there are a lot more than who want girl/girl) by not giving them what they want when on the sites that deliver that sort of content?

    “So what does 2021 have in store? Sadly, many of the ideas we had for 2020 (a model from each state, big boob days, etc.) and had started up until March, are going to continue to be on hold, as we navigate getting enough quality content for each site while some areas are still in lockdown.”

    Your living in a fantasy. You weren't a member in 2020 - and that message was company wide. Tgirls.porn didn't have those 'days', they were part of themed update days on those sites and part of the regular schedule. Again, the entitlement is awful - and picking at my statement, to make unfounded attacks if fairly low. YOU are getting what you signed up for, and what Tgirls.porn has delivered since it began, one full girl/girl scene update a week. Anything on top of that, should be considered 'free bonuses' and not what you're paying for.

    So continual less content but more cost? And Foot Friday, my biggest and most sought after Holy Grail … gone. (Props to Radius Dark for taking care of us foot fans in his sets on Tgirls.porn, truly a credit to the business)
    If it was the 'Holy Grail' then you would have splashed out a few bucks on GroobyGirls or Tgirls.xxx and had access to all of Radius Dark's (and other producers) foot material. As above, these were part of a regular update schedule on the other sites - and long before you decided to join. So we're continuing to deliver foot content on many, many sets updated weekly - just not always on a Friday. So no. Again, entirely incorrect and bad assumptions again.

    For us too? Fans of TS/TS content? No males? Or will these special shoots be only for your TS/M sites?
    It will be all different types of content across our network.

    So yeah, just a few words of frustration from a fan of male free transwomen content regarding the state of things. Apologies.
    If you're apologising then you must realize how much (almost all) of what you're stating is just utter tripe. Frustrated at wanting more girl/girl content? I get that - but having a whole rant on a small price increase, when you've only just become a member - and then making a lot of assumptions, sniping at my statements and taking them totally wrong, and just making silly un-factual comments, it's just a waste of my time having to answer them.

    As I stated, we're one of the few companies that shows so much of how we work, and where our supporters can get direct responses from the webmasters and the company owners. We're a company that aims to be profitable but as long as sites can cover their costs, we'll try and keep them running as we know there are people who want that content, and it's unavailable elsewhere. Also by running multiple sites they support each other, so we can get a model in for 2-3 scenes and make it worth her time. Our more profitable sites support things like Femout.xxx (ran at not-for-profit in an aim to bring in more models), The TEA Show (also ran at not-for-profit) and help pay towards a number of outreach or help we try to do with the community.

    We're not the biggest payers to the models or the producers in the industry, mostly because of the volume we shoot (over 150 sets per month - most trans companies do less than 10) so even a small increase in their payments can have a profound affect on our bottom line. The small price increases enable us to continue to produce the content and put in long overdue payment increases to models and producers. If you believe that the increase or site cost is too much for you, then by all means look elsewhere. I truly believe we deliver great value for money, and try to over-deliver where and when we can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroobySteven View Post
    Thanks for taking the time to email - but I'm finding it hard to grasp someone being upset about a $3/month) increase (on a 6 month membership). The last time this site had an increase was 2016 - that's 5 years of server, staff wages, health care, production fees, paying for testing (most scenes used to be condoms) and all the other increases that come with inflation which we haven't passed onto the customer, on a site which although pays it's rent - is by far one of less profitable.

    I've always believed in transparency between the company, the models, producers and those who support us - most companies don't inform customers what they're doing and although I stand by this ethos, it becomes frustrating when my posts are misconstrued or used incorrectly to validate someone's assumptions.

    Let me address your points - and if it sounds obtuse it's because some of your views/points are incredulous.

    But for fans of transwomen with transwomen content it represents the continual relegation of a niche of a niche.
    An utterly absurd take on this. We're delivering the same content, nothing is being 'relegated'. The fees went up a little, so we can not only continue to deliver the content which you want - but pay the models and the producers more.

    So for those of us who do not like the majority of your content, as it’s overwhelmingly featuring males in them, we wind up getting the short end of the stick again.
    More inanity. How do you get the short end of the stick? The prices on all the sites went up - and you still get the sane amount of content as we've always delivered on Tgirls.porn. This is just silly hyperbole.

    I joined for six months at $110, reoccurring. Will that change to the new $130 upon the next resign period?
    I believe this is the first membership you've had for the site - and I do thank you for joining, I don't know where you were getting the girl/girl content before this, but for your under $20 a month you are not only getting new content weekly but the last 6 years of content. There may be some price changes on existing membership fees but those affected will be contacted beforehand, or notified on the site. Just like Netflix (who I believe have increased their price 3x in the same period), or your telephone contract (who increase each year).

    Further, we’ve already experienced a reduction in the content that was planned for 2021, announced in your New Years update. So now there’s a content reduction and a price increase.
    I have absolutely no idea where you would get that from - our commitment to Tgirls.porn is to continue with weekly updates, where have you extrapolated the content reduction?

    That’s the one that also really irks – hard to get male free TS content and then this site [Tgirls.porn, only site I am joined up to at Grooby, as I want transwomen content that is male free only and it's incredibly hard to get] will go up 20 dollars/6 months on top of that.
    You're making my point for me, the content is hard to get because it's less appealing to the majority of people ergo, less income from it and thus having to charge a little more. The sites that 'only went up a $1' were GroobyGirls, BlackTgirls, Tgirls.xxx - and already cost more than Tgirls.porn as well as having had small increases ($1) two years ago. It seems you are more irked that they only get a $1 increase while yours is $3 - you are still paying less then they are and getting what you want.

    What I would appreciate with this increase in cost is to see an increase in content, male free.
    And where does the budget come from that? We can increase to 2x updates a week (for a site increase of about 75% - so $52.50 a month, or every second week we could have a second set for a 50% increase (so $45 a month) but I think those would price increases would 'irk' more people and result in the site eventually failing.

    “We also gave away a lot of free memberships earlier in lockdown, and some unbeatable deals to try and make your money go a little further.” - Missed out on that, paid full price and it looks like it’s going to go up from there.
    Bless. In the 25 years we've been online you've contributed $110 to our production. I don't want to be dismissive but do you realize how entitled and ridiculous that statement is. You just joined in January and got 292 scenes and one per week (24 during your membership) on Tgirls.porn costing you 0.37c per scene, and your whining about us giving away a site for free to members who've supported us for decades and throughout the hard times, during the main lockdown period. Why weren't you a member in 2020?

    “I understand not every set is for every person” – fans of male free TS content are routinely relegated to a niche of a niche. Most sets you produce across your sites aren’t for me, as they feature men in them. Solos, well, they are what they are but I’m already members at various sites that seem to produce nothing but solos, solo after solo after solo. There’s pretty much no reason for me to consider even looking at your other sites as it’s all overwhelmingly either solo or TS/M. And it's a bummer as you produce great content!
    I actually don't know of any other sites that produce solo content in the trans niche other than ours. That's fine that they're not for you, not all our sites are intended for everyone, some like solos, some only hardcore, some like earlier transition, some further along, some have preferences on colour, size, age or country. You're lucky, for what you like there is a whole site dedicated to it. Why would we 'irk' those who like male/trans content (if which there are a lot more than who want girl/girl) by not giving them what they want when on the sites that deliver that sort of content?

    “So what does 2021 have in store? Sadly, many of the ideas we had for 2020 (a model from each state, big boob days, etc.) and had started up until March, are going to continue to be on hold, as we navigate getting enough quality content for each site while some areas are still in lockdown.”

    Your living in a fantasy. You weren't a member in 2020 - and that message was company wide. Tgirls.porn didn't have those 'days', they were part of themed update days on those sites and part of the regular schedule. Again, the entitlement is awful - and picking at my statement, to make unfounded attacks if fairly low. YOU are getting what you signed up for, and what Tgirls.porn has delivered since it began, one full girl/girl scene update a week. Anything on top of that, should be considered 'free bonuses' and not what you're paying for.

    So continual less content but more cost? And Foot Friday, my biggest and most sought after Holy Grail … gone. (Props to Radius Dark for taking care of us foot fans in his sets on Tgirls.porn, truly a credit to the business)
    If it was the 'Holy Grail' then you would have splashed out a few bucks on GroobyGirls or Tgirls.xxx and had access to all of Radius Dark's (and other producers) foot material. As above, these were part of a regular update schedule on the other sites - and long before you decided to join. So we're continuing to deliver foot content on many, many sets updated weekly - just not always on a Friday. So no. Again, entirely incorrect and bad assumptions again.

    For us too? Fans of TS/TS content? No males? Or will these special shoots be only for your TS/M sites?
    It will be all different types of content across our network.

    So yeah, just a few words of frustration from a fan of male free transwomen content regarding the state of things. Apologies.
    If you're apologising then you must realize how much (almost all) of what you're stating is just utter tripe. Frustrated at wanting more girl/girl content? I get that - but having a whole rant on a small price increase, when you've only just become a member - and then making a lot of assumptions, sniping at my statements and taking them totally wrong, and just making silly un-factual comments, it's just a waste of my time having to answer them.

    As I stated, we're one of the few companies that shows so much of how we work, and where our supporters can get direct responses from the webmasters and the company owners. We're a company that aims to be profitable but as long as sites can cover their costs, we'll try and keep them running as we know there are people who want that content, and it's unavailable elsewhere. Also by running multiple sites they support each other, so we can get a model in for 2-3 scenes and make it worth her time. Our more profitable sites support things like Femout.xxx (ran at not-for-profit in an aim to bring in more models), The TEA Show (also ran at not-for-profit) and help pay towards a number of outreach or help we try to do with the community.

    We're not the biggest payers to the models or the producers in the industry, mostly because of the volume we shoot (over 150 sets per month - most trans companies do less than 10) so even a small increase in their payments can have a profound affect on our bottom line. The small price increases enable us to continue to produce the content and put in long overdue payment increases to models and producers. If you believe that the increase or site cost is too much for you, then by all means look elsewhere. I truly believe we deliver great value for money, and try to over-deliver where and when we can.
    As always, love the transparency with fans. Considering covid, I'm just glad you guys are able to keep the content coming. I think Grooby has fair prices.

    There's going to be two tgirl on tgirl sites, so I don't see how one can complain. My gripe is just the opposite of the OP. I want that TS Tops site, like yesterday lol.

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