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    it always starts so innocently!

    Although I will admit he has a point with the mask stuff, but, I know i mentioned that in another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    Oh yeah, 50 percent dont care (on this forum or your subscribers?) but another 50 does. Why dont you ask all those models from yum if they would like to do a scene with a black man. I would like to hear their responses.
    All of my Yum models that want to do HC shoots have no problem performing with the only male performers I have which are black men, these men have enough respect for the business to show face. Let me know when Brian Pumper is only performing wearing mask on camera, or when women will only perform if they can wear mask. Fucking retarded, wearing mask, go to xtube with that amateur hour stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remy757Photog View Post
    Adverts are for men that want to see American Black Tgirls, I seriously doubt you can show an ad specifically talking about American Black Men on the site. If you are so worked up about seeing black men in porn I can direct you to some gay websites... I don't understand why some guys make such a big deal about what the men in porn look like. They can be white, black, fat, skinny, hairy, bald, it really doesn't matter so long as he can fuck these beautiful Black Shemales well on camera.

    The girls do care, only being willing to be on camera with a TS by wearing a mask shows how much of a fucking closet caper the guy really is, it's fucking disrespectful to the models and to the industry to have such qualms. Those grown ass men need to quit worrying about what someone might say and perform like all other men in porn with their faces showing.

    Nope, don't believe it. Please, show me proof of what models that perform HC on the Major sites, Grooby, Club, Strokers, Bob's, Kink etc that also perform HC on 3rd-party sites (whatever those are, solo sites I guess you mean? ) sorry but it sounds like you're talking out the side of your neck
    My thoughts exactly*

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    I dont have a problem with the dudes wearing a mask. I mean you cant exactly come out looking like captain hook either, but just a regular mask seems ok to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by werwt22 View Post
    I dont have a problem with the dudes wearing a mask. I mean you cant exactly come out looking like captain hook either, but just a regular mask seems ok to me.
    It doesn't matter if the Viewer cares about a performer wearing a mask, THE MODELS CARE! Without the btg models there's nothing to film. Solo site girls that put up with those shenanigans do so because they have to settle for less to get the content out as 98% of their content is hardcore vids, maybe a few solos, but little to no new girls weekly to show off, or pictorials, or other producers around the country also submitting material so they have to get the content they can.

    What is a regular mask by the way? Popular Halloween mask? Eyes Wide Shut mask? Paper-bag over the face mask? Stick 'em up, I'm a thug ski mask? what....

    Everyone knows this is porn that is going on the World Wide Web, if a guy isn't comfortable with the World seeing him do porn, don't do porn! It's a silly fear anyway, nobody will stumble upon a hardcore black shemale porn shoot, without first searching for it, and if they are searching for it they obviously aren't going to have a problem with him being in it, he'd probably be their hero.

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    Cool

    I'm not going to go down the mask route discussion again, it's just fucking stupid, infantile and absolutely not what we as a company are about.

    To the OP - strangely enough, we've just put up two hardcores on Yum with black males doing the tgirls!
    Also, where have we ever advertised to black men? We advertise to people wanting to see black tgirls, it's all inclusive. If we can get the performers we will but more black male performers have either been no-shows or flops, than not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remy757Photog View Post
    It doesn't matter if the Viewer cares about a performer wearing a mask, THE MODELS CARE! Without the btg models there's nothing to film. Solo site girls that put up with those shenanigans do so because they have to settle for less to get the content out as 98% of their content is hardcore vids, maybe a few solos, but little to no new girls weekly to show off, or pictorials, or other producers around the country also submitting material so they have to get the content they can.

    What is a regular mask by the way? Popular Halloween mask? Eyes Wide Shut mask? Paper-bag over the face mask? Stick 'em up, I'm a thug ski mask? what....

    Everyone knows this is porn that is going on the World Wide Web, if a guy isn't comfortable with the World seeing him do porn, don't do porn! It's a silly fear anyway, nobody will stumble upon a hardcore black shemale porn shoot, without first searching for it, and if they are searching for it they obviously aren't going to have a problem with him being in it, he'd probably be their hero.
    Agreed.......

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    I dont give a fuck if you got on face paint. Im not there to see the guys face, but I understand what your saying though as far as the girls go, but fuck the bullshit about they can be "fat, skinny, bald, hairy...etc." ex: I know you'll remember that tall white dude that use to smash all the Asian chicks that was hairy as fuck and just ruined the whole scene. It's hilarious that you dont care what dude is in the scene as long as he's not wearing a mask. I cant tell you how many lubed up hairy asses ruined a clip for me. Sorry but hunchback of Notre Dame shouldnt qualify just because he doesnt have a mask on. HAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remy757Photog View Post
    It doesn't matter if the Viewer cares about a performer wearing a mask, THE MODELS CARE!

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    I think the Viewer is the customer without the customer their is no market for the Model. Please do not forget the customer and be so confident that your business can not be compromised. Eliminate the sensitivity here this is healthy dialougue for all beneficiaries of this business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by werwt22 View Post
    I dont give a fuck if you got on face paint. Im not there to see the guys face, but I understand what your saying though as far as the girls go, but fuck the bullshit about they can be "fat, skinny, bald, hairy...etc." ex: I know you'll remember that tall white dude that use to smash all the Asian chicks that was hairy as fuck and just ruined the whole scene. It's hilarious that you dont care what dude is in the scene as long as he's not wearing a mask. I cant tell you how many lubed up hairy asses ruined a clip for me. Sorry but hunchback of Notre Dame shouldnt qualify just because he doesnt have a mask on. HAHA
    hmmm so what you are saying is that your ideal male performer has to be Black, in shape, good looking (to you), and he doesn't have to show an once of respect to the transexual model he is performing with? I will never let someone on set that is too embarrased to be seen with her. Wearing a mask is pure disrespectful, there are principals and there's no way around it. He isn't wearing a mask because it's a prop in the shoot to tell a story, but to specifically hide the fact that he likes transexuals and THAT I have a problem with! The adult industry is not the place for insecurities, if they are too scared to show their face, don't do porn. They should just make their little home movies that they hide away in a shoe book somewhere and hope their homeboys never stumble upon.

    Now, if a guy shows up with Ron Jeremy looks, but has great charisma and chemsitry with the models (my guys do have to be liked by the models), can cum on command, stay hard for 1hr 1/2 + of filming, and has some decent human common courtesy I don't care what his race is, let's go have some fun filming. Performers (male, female, trans) have worked hard in this Adult Industry to earn the respect that they do have and I will not let some Down Low hypocrite infringe on that, so he can get his rocks off, not on my dime. There are plenty of black guys that are willing to film, and the guy I'm using is great, so glad to have met him. The girls love hanging with him off camera and he totally makes them feel comfortable. I do believe there are a few producers here making more and more content specifically with black on black action so the aire of change has blown and trust we will not have a masked 'zero' in play.

    Damn I swear I've never heard 'straight' guys talk about the men in porn so much. It's sad and a bit funny that we even have to have this conversation of what is 'fundamentally' wrong with a man wearing a mask to do porn. Why should we, when there are men with better moral fiber. I like my main performer as a friend very much and thus will try to bring him as much business as I reasonably can, but I will not suffer the presence of someone who is comfortable enough to fuck a transexual but not be seen with her. So since you are so worried that my male performer will not live up to your visual expectations being that YOU say he can't be hairy, that is what you said right? Please tell me, should he shave his legs for you? Would you like me to film it? Want me to make sure he's had a mani and a pedi? Fresh edge up? Hot new Jordans? Is chest hair a problem? lol What is the criteria you are holding these black male performers to regarding his looks because we are trying and I do want to limit what you are complaining about as much as possible, I'm just not going to suffer a fool that wants to get on camera with a dunce cap.

    Quote Originally Posted by iketurner View Post
    I think the Viewer is the customer without the customer their is no market for the Model. Please do not forget the customer and be so confident that your business can not be compromised. Eliminate the sensitivity here this is healthy dialougue for all beneficiaries of this business.
    lol whatever, the initial complaint was not enough american hardcore on this site. For months now we've ramped up production of hardcores on the site. Our most frequent HC producer Tony Vee uses latino men which, to me, are men of colour as well, though granted not black, but certainly pertaining to the same urban persona right? A while back, a non paying member started complaining about not enough black on black hardcore. We've taken steps to ramp up production of that as well. Just because a viewer feels we should use men too embarrased to be seen with transexuals doesn't mean they are right, and it's silly to think that I will sit here and pretend to consider doing so, especially when there are black men with basic respect for their fellow performers. And HELLO there is no other real major porn company catering to such foolishness either! Imagine being told that you have to wear a mask when you come into work, the co-workers don't want it known they have to work with a black man in their office. Don't worry though, the customers that buy our company products don't care how their employees are treated so just deal with it or quit. What are you, as a grown man going to do? Where does your integrity lay?

    *To the posters that support such anonymous male porn actors, I apologize if I sound overly mean to you guys, but the concept and practice that you are demanding we adjust to is beyond frustrating, morally degrading, and only tolerated by a very small (3-6 independant solo site girls) portion of the Adult Industry. As an ethnic person, the problems with this should be blatantly obvious and yet you support it. Time to wake up people...*
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