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    Holy shit, look how much this thread has exploded. Im goingnto be to the point since im typing on my iphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    Oh really?! You know what he can do? If not then go fuck yourself bro, youll be a horrible business man.
    Hey Rainman, let me just give you some advice man. I see that you're a BTG Newbie, which means that you've just joined the site. Well, welcome to Black T-Girls, happy that you've chosen to bring your insight to the forum, but just let me tell that if you intend to stay here and participate in the forums, you can not talk in the manner in which you're talking. The moderator WILL NOT allow that. That is the fastest way to get booted off the site. Apparently, you want to be here because if you didn't, you wouldn't have joined. So, let's excercise a little professionalism and tact and lets talk to people with respect. You don't have to be rude and obnoxious to get your point across here. Most of the participants on this site are very intelligent so there's no need to lower your standards to get your point across.

    Again, welcome to the forum bro. Hope you stay long enough to enjoy yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidman View Post
    Hey Rainman, let me just give you some advice man. I see that you're a BTG Newbie, which means that you've just joined the site. Well, welcome to Black T-Girls, happy that you've chosen to bring your insight to the forum, but just let me tell that if you intend to stay here and participate in the forums, you can not talk in the manner in which you're talking. The moderator WILL NOT allow that. That is the fastest way to get booted off the site. Apparently, you want to be here because if you didn't, you wouldn't have joined. So, let's excercise a little professionalism and tact and lets talk to people with respect. You don't have to be rude and obnoxious to get your point across here. Most of the participants on this site are very intelligent so there's no need to lower your standards to get your point across.

    Again, welcome to the forum bro. Hope you stay long enough to enjoy yourself.

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    Hey dont come at me with your double-standards, just because i "just" joined this site. Trust me, ive been around. That ws a underhanded remark yet you dont say anything about that. If this gets me banned so be it....but dont expect me to apologize for defending myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iketurner View Post
    I think the Viewer is the customer without the customer their is no market for the Model. Please do not forget the customer and be so confident that your business can not be compromised. Eliminate the sensitivity here this is healthy dialougue for all beneficiaries of this business.

    The viewer is the customer but without the models wanting to work for this site and feeling confident about working for this site then we have no product to sell. It's also not in our company ethos to be demeaning or disrespectful. Despite being a porn company, we can still further an agenda that transwomen in porn, should not be different from any other women working in porn. The wearing of a mask so you can't be identified, is certainly demeaning.

    Further to what Remy stated, we wouldn't use ANY male performer. We get about 15 applicants or more a week. Out of them only about 5-6 are usable and in the right areas. Whether they come through or not is another matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remy757Photog View Post
    hmmm so what you are saying is that your ideal male performer has to be Black, in shape, good looking (to you), and he doesn't have to show an once of respect to the transexual model he is performing with? I will never let someone on set that is too embarrased to be seen with her. Wearing a mask is pure disrespectful, there are principals and there's no way around it. He isn't wearing a mask because it's a prop in the shoot to tell a story, but to specifically hide the fact that he likes transexuals and THAT I have a problem with! The adult industry is not the place for insecurities, if they are too scared to show their face, don't do porn. They should just make their little home movies that they hide away in a shoe book somewhere and hope their homeboys never stumble upon.

    Now, if a guy shows up with Ron Jeremy looks, but has great charisma and chemsitry with the models (my guys do have to be liked by the models), can cum on command, stay hard for 1hr 1/2 + of filming, and has some decent human common courtesy I don't care what his race is, let's go have some fun filming. Performers (male, female, trans) have worked hard in this Adult Industry to earn the respect that they do have and I will not let some Down Low hypocrite infringe on that, so he can get his rocks off, not on my dime. There are plenty of black guys that are willing to film, and the guy I'm using is great, so glad to have met him. The girls love hanging with him off camera and he totally makes them feel comfortable. I do believe there are a few producers here making more and more content specifically with black on black action so the aire of change has blown and trust we will not have a masked 'zero' in play.

    Damn I swear I've never heard 'straight' guys talk about the men in porn so much. It's sad and a bit funny that we even have to have this conversation of what is 'fundamentally' wrong with a man wearing a mask to do porn. Why should we, when there are men with better moral fiber. I like my main performer as a friend very much and thus will try to bring him as much business as I reasonably can, but I will not suffer the presence of someone who is comfortable enough to fuck a transexual but not be seen with her. So since you are so worried that my male performer will not live up to your visual expectations being that YOU say he can't be hairy, that is what you said right? Please tell me, should he shave his legs for you? Would you like me to film it? Want me to make sure he's had a mani and a pedi? Fresh edge up? Hot new Jordans? Is chest hair a problem? lol What is the criteria you are holding these black male performers to regarding his looks because we are trying and I do want to limit what you are complaining about as much as possible, I'm just not going to suffer a fool that wants to get on camera with a dunce cap.



    lol whatever, the initial complaint was not enough american hardcore on this site. For months now we've ramped up production of hardcores on the site. Our most frequent HC producer Tony Vee uses latino men which, to me, are men of colour as well, though granted not black, but certainly pertaining to the same urban persona right? A while back, a non paying member started complaining about not enough black on black hardcore. We've taken steps to ramp up production of that as well. Just because a viewer feels we should use men too embarrased to be seen with transexuals doesn't mean they are right, and it's silly to think that I will sit here and pretend to consider doing so, especially when there are black men with basic respect for their fellow performers. And HELLO there is no other real major porn company catering to such foolishness either! Imagine being told that you have to wear a mask when you come into work, the co-workers don't want it known they have to work with a black man in their office. Don't worry though, the customers that buy our company products don't care how their employees are treated so just deal with it or quit. What are you, as a grown man going to do? Where does your integrity lay?

    *To the posters that support such anonymous male porn actors, I apologize if I sound overly mean to you guys, but the concept and practice that you are demanding we adjust to is beyond frustrating, morally degrading, and only tolerated by a very small (3-6 independant solo site girls) portion of the Adult Industry. As an ethnic person, the problems with this should be blatantly obvious and yet you support it. Time to wake up people...*

    First off, you blew that way out of context. I never said anybody had to be black or this or that. I was one of the guys that said i didnt really care what race the guy is. But they still need to be well groomed, and i dont care whether your straight, bi, or gay, the appearance of the man in the scene does effect how we view it. You are misconstruing my comments to be in accordance with everyone else's. I said you should hold the same standards with everything. So no we dont wanna fuckin see Ron Jeremy fuckin anyone. That got played out in the 80's and 90's.

    And are you saying he cant be passionate with a mask? =D lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by werwt22 View Post
    First off, you blew that way out of context. I never said anybody had to be black or this or that. I was one of the guys that said i didnt really care what race the guy is. But they still need to be well groomed, and i dont care whether your straight, bi, or gay, the appearance of the man in the scene does effect how we view it. You are misconstruing my comments to be in accordance with everyone else's. I said you should hold the same standards with everything. So no we dont wanna fuckin see Ron Jeremy fuckin anyone. That got played out in the 80's and 90's.

    And are you saying he cant be passionate with a mask? =D lol
    Ok well then, I do apologize. I have yet to hear a model complain about the guy having hair on his legs so I don't see why a guy watching porn is complaining either. All performers must show up properly groomed and cleaned but I don't consider a 'straight guy' grooming to extend to his legs, do you feel that he has to have either shaved or trimmed pubic hair too? We do have standards which is why mask are not allowed and no a model would never find a guy too scared to show his face as being passionate, that is just a creep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remy757Photog View Post
    Ok well then, I do apologize. I have yet to hear a model complain about the guy having hair on his legs so I don't see why a guy watching porn is complaining either. All performers must show up properly groomed and cleaned but I don't consider a 'straight guy' grooming to extend to his legs, do you feel that he has to have either shaved or trimmed pubic hair too? We do have standards which is why mask are not allowed and no a model would never find a guy too scared to show his face as being passionate, that is just a creep.
    I feel you. Dude i just meant there's such a thing as too much. Hairy is ok with me, but when does hairy become "too" hairy. I'm not talking about just hair, just using it as an example. And when did i say anything about shaving armpits and legs? LMAO. That needs to be stricken from the record LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by werwt22 View Post
    I feel you. Dude i just meant there's such a thing as too much. Hairy is ok with me, but when does hairy become "too" hairy. I'm not talking about just hair, just using it as an example. And when did i say anything about shaving armpits and legs? LMAO. That needs to be stricken from the record LOL.
    I shall refrain from hiring Harry from the Hendersons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remy757Photog View Post
    I shall refrain from hiring Harry from the Hendersons.
    haha that works for me.

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    lol... wow how things evolve here! I can understand the whole no mask stance as it refers to the girls feelings or the companies direction. But, to say all the girls don't want masks is just not true. and to say they all care either way is also not true. Some girls would like to have a sex scene with certain guys who don't have the option of being seen in porn, and would suggest a mask. I know this cause I was one such guy. Most girls know its not all about if somebody see who you're sexing as is the fact that your having sex on camera! Most porn guys are not full time actors, there is not that much work out here. So yes, Don Dong has to still teach 4th grade science during the week, Rock Bottom has to still advocate for gay rights, Colon Pound has to still tell kids to stay off drugs at outreach, and yes! TVSURFER has to still access-a-ride big momma to bingo on Tuesdays! In a nutshell, not everyone in the business can afford to have everyone know they are in the business, gay or straight! As for myself, I wouldn't give my ex-wife any ammunition for family court to take away my visitation! And if it wasn't for my extremely personal tats, I would have done it mask and all!

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