Why Are Men Allowed To Be So Disrespectful?

[k.logan]

I Know This is a Forum and its a place where people should be able to speak your mind and blah blah blah.... This is also a Transexual Porn website where most of the girls are escorts and if im not mistaken all were born men. I visit the forum quite often and some men on here are supportive and the other half seems to be angry. In my opinion at the notice of disrepect they should be automatically deleted.If were doing something (models) that you dont like here dont come. This is one of the places that we are suppose to have respect and lately thats not it! Also if you dont wanna date a tranny thats a pornstar its SIMPLE DONT DO IT! If you also dont wanna turn a hoe into a house wife DONT TRY IT! Its as simple as that. I must say i have alot of support on the forum bu that doenst excuse the fact that i see the men disrespect my sisters. Remeber this is a transexual porn forum, If you want a christian forum GO JOIN ONE!
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[twowaybro]

Ohhhh boy....here it comes.:rolleyes:

[k.logan]

I Know im about to get it right? Well Im Prepared Somebody has to speak up Im A trannypanther lol

[vidman]

I Know im about to get it right? Well Im Prepared Somebody has to speak up Im A trannypanther lol

Kennedy, I totally agree with you. If you don't like the music being played on 103.3, turn the dial to 107.9! lol. Seriously, the real, but sad issue is that in 2009, people still have a problem with diversity. At what point will people realize that we all differ, from the smallest similarities to the greatest of divides. We are so caught up in our own world of self-awareness that we forget to realize that people are all different. The question was raised in a forum last week about "dating a transsexual escort/porn star." My answer was "HECK YEAH I WOULD" because if two people are attracted to each other in a way that creates a genuine reciprocation of love and affection, why try to stop it with some nonsense reason. People are praying to find the love of their lives and some people have love hit them smack dab in the face and let it pass them by because of stupid pride and prejudice. Once we, especially black men, stop being so judgmental and frowning upon people who do things that we wouldn't quite do, then the disrespect will stop because the understanding factor will kick in. No man on here will boldly say that they wouldn't date Natalia Coxx, Fia, Ebony, Katie Cokkks, Kennedy, Victoria Porshe, Chyna, Infinity or Taylor, etc, etc. My point in listing so many names is to get the guys to just think about what they are ultimately saying when they claim that they would never date a porn star/escort. These are just a few of the beautiful girls that I mentioned. Sorry fellas, but I wouldn't pass up one chance to date one of these girls regardless of how many guys they've tricked or how many porn films they've shot loads in. AND...I would treat them with the respect they deserve just for being normal people trying to get their bills paid.

[werwt22]

I understand what youre trying to say, but nobody ever has positive things to say 100% of the time unless they have something to gain. And to be honest I like it when people argue different points. Granted that there shouldnt be a guy in a "Big Dick" thread saying he hates big dicks, but a lot of these guys make very valid points. I dont wanna start a thread with all replies saying me 2, me 3....

[k.logan]

I understand what youre trying to say, but nobody ever has positive things to say 100% of the time unless they have something to gain. And to be honest I like it when people argue different points. Granted that there shouldnt be a guy in a "Big Dick" thread saying he hates big dicks, but a lot of these guys make very valid points. I dont wanna start a thread with all replies saying me 2, me 3....

Its a Difference between making a Valid Point thats why its refered to as valid! If You havent noticed ive taken what i do and turned into something positive. Once again if you dont like trannys because they are "hoes" and "men" then why come to a "Porn site" or forum full of hoes that are actually men and then state it in a thread? How many of these men with valid points deal with a tranny day by day to notice that they are human, they have feelings, they love , they hurt they are human they should be treated as such! :confused:

[k.logan]

Thank you so much for understanding my "valid" point.

[werwt22]

HAHA I already gave you that one. I told you I agree as far as hating on someone, and yes I understand you have feelings. That's not the point I was making. Hope you didnt think I was referring to the comments people make to belittle you as valid points. I'm just saying people disagree and you shouldn't be banned, deleted, or blocked because someone doesn't jump on the bandwagon.

[werwt22]

And as far as the "hoes to housewives", I dont like the lifestyle this type of work brings because I've witnessed it change people first hand. It's like bein in the dope game. And while its not so much the nature of what you do, more so of what it spawns. Its so hard to find a down-to-earth ts without all the emotional baggage from "work". And I'm speaking in general, not calling anyone out, but it's so hard to get through that brick wall that so many of you put up.

[ty-clone]

Kennedy can u be more specific, cause I don’t see disrespectful threads or post on here

[k.logan]

And as far as the "hoes to housewives", I dont like the lifestyle this type of work brings because I've witnessed it change people first hand. It's like bein in the dope game. And while its not so much the nature of what you do, more so of what it spawns. Its so hard to find a down-to-earth ts without all the emotional baggage from "work". And I'm speaking in general, not calling anyone out, but it's so hard to get through that brick wall that so many of you put up.

Where are you statistics? I would like to review them.

[k.logan]

Kennedy can u be more specific, cause I don’t see disrespectful threads or post on here

Ok baby if you havent seen the disrespect on the forum over these past months never have I im sorry :(

[ty-clone]

Ok baby if you havent seen the disrespect on the forum over these past months never have I im sorry :(

OK there maybe 2 or 3 disrespectable post in here, but for the most part, its 99% all positive views towards girls as urself

Im saying ms logan, u are too good to let any negative quotes upset u. lets be real, ur flawless & by reading ur post also intelligent

just brush the 1 or 2 haters off ur shoulder, like my nigga obama


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[k.logan]

OK there maybe 2 or 3 disrespectable post in here, but for the most part, its 99% all positive views towards girls as urself

Im saying ms logan, u are too good to let any negative quotes upset u. lets be real, ur flawless & by reading ur post also intelligent

just brush the 1 or 2 haters off ur shoulder, like my nigga obama


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e59/beyster/brush.gif

Awww Thank You I Know i Get alot of love here, but I was speaking about the current events and topics. I must also admit that some of the things that were mentioned were against transgenders as a whole. I couldve responded specifically on those topics but Ive decided to protect my image and fanbase and not respond to ignorance. I Love Obama

[SEXYTSJESSDOTCOM]

GURL Ma Ma.... They think cuz we r "working" / "porn stars" that we are incompatible of taking on such capability. So they just say RUDE comments behind a SCREENAME and on a Porn SITE. So they fell like they have the upper hand.

LET ME TELL U WHAT HAPPEN TO ME... I posted a FAKE CASUAL ENCOUNTER ad up... with FAKE PICS that were not of ME. Talked to guy, GAVE HIM one of my FAKE Phony numbers. CHOPPPPED it up. Got along GREAT! Then i said hey let me tell Him and SHOW him my REAL PICS b 4 we get in toooo DEEP!.....
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.......... Gurl do u know this man told me " OHHHH JESS, Im sorry. I was looking for a "regular next door chick TS" Ummmmmmmm immediately i was lost... then BEGAN to THINK. Clearly he Browses ESCORTS/PORN/MY WEBSITE... He knew exactly who i was off da break. MIND u it was a CASUAL ENCOUNTER... I didnt ASK for any MONEY exchange.... I WAS SHOCKED!!! But thats his own opinion. Its whatever. But that made me feel a certain way.. I thought it was Disrespectful. But gurl..

IM SOOOOO HAPPY FOR U AND UR BF !!!!! YOU KNOW I TELL U ALLL THE TIME!!! I gets my life off Pretty TRANNYS especially how MATURE HE IS to understand DAY IN DAY OUT and live and SEEEEE what we go through!!!

Big ups

[k.logan]

GURL Ma Ma.... They think cuz we r "working" / "porn stars" that we are incompatible of taking on such capability. So they just say RUDE comments behind a SCREENAME and on a Porn SITE. So they fell like they have the upper hand.

LET ME TELL U WHAT HAPPEN TO ME... I posted a FAKE CASUAL ENCOUNTER ad up... with FAKE PICS that were not of ME. Talked to guy, GAVE HIM one of my FAKE Phony numbers. CHOPPPPED it up. Got along GREAT! Then i said hey let me tell Him and SHOW him my REAL PICS b 4 we get in toooo DEEP!.....
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.......... Gurl do u know this man told me " OHHHH JESS, Im sorry. I was looking for a "regular next door chick TS" Ummmmmmmm immediately i was lost... then BEGAN to THINK. Clearly he Browses ESCORTS/PORN/MY WEBSITE... He knew exactly who i was off da break. MIND u it was a CASUAL ENCOUNTER... I didnt ASK for any MONEY exchange.... I WAS SHOCKED!!! But thats his own opinion. Its whatever. But that made me feel a certain way.. I thought it was Disrespectful. But gurl..

IM SOOOOO HAPPY FOR U AND UR BF !!!!! YOU KNOW I TELL U ALLL THE TIME!!! I gets my life off Pretty TRANNYS especially how MATURE HE IS to understand DAY IN DAY OUT and live and SEEEEE what we go through!!!

Big ups Thanks Jess, That man had to be on some other shit, that was foolishness. I wis i wouldve went to school to become a LGBT lawyer or something of that nature we need one a Fly one shit lol, but foreal someone who the kids will pay attention too. Eight years is a long time though I can see us now in our pencil skirt suits and leather briefcase wouldnt that be fab!

[mrvice]

Awww Thank You I Know i Get alot of love here, but I was speaking about the current events and topics. I must also admit that some of the things that were mentioned were against transgenders as a whole. I couldve responded specifically on those topics but Ive decided to protect my image and fanbase and not respond to ignorance. I Love Obama

i feel you logan it sometimes can be ignorance as well jus dnt let it get to you

[MrKnockOut]

It's a forum, some people love to big up and "pay" the girls and some dudes just call it how they see it. I don't think it's a thing of disrespect or being "allowed to say whatever". I don't think it's a thing of being hateful or disrespectful, I do think it's a thing of truth. Some people like it, some people don't. It is what it is.

There's a topic labeled "why are black men so bad at...", should I be offended as a black man?
There's a topic labeled "the guys on this forum are dead...", should I be offended as a guy?
I could go on and on...
I'm not offended because those things don't apply to me.
If someone called me a ni&&er, should I feel hurt? Why? I don't choose to take ownership of that word...
If someone calls you a hoe, it will only hurt if you take ownership of that word. If you've been in a committed relationship with your guy for 4 years, more power to you, he's down with what you do and you guys are making it work.

[peggygee]

I think that there are some men who are misogynists, they don't like or
respect females, whether they are trans or natal. Then factor in that the
women work in the sex trade, and then they really feel that they have a
license to disrespect them.

Add in the anonymity that the Net provides and people feel that they can
come out of their mouth's any way that they want to.

However, the converse of the point that the OP has made is the "kiss ass"
factor. Ssome men will be a "yes man" or "kiss ass" to anything that a woman
will say, just so that he can get some convo, free sex, photos or other
special treatment from her.

[werwt22]

Where are you statistics? I would like to review them.

LOL I dont have any statistics babe. It's just what I've picked up on in my life experience and general knowledge. Just want a down-to-earth girl, that work hasnt changed, with future goals. That's all. So many of these girls get into the business and never have an out date. Some of these girls really plan on fucking random guys for the rest of their lives. So its no surprise some of that flak they receive spews onto some of the girls that actually plan on having a normal life eventually.

[4mystuffin]

there have been quite a few crazy comments made on this forum (usually from the same people) that I view as opposing what this forum is about. I surely see how a lot of the women on here could be offended. I love the fact that girls that I have lusted after like Kennedy or Jess when I was in the carolinas are on this forum speaking their minds. But on that same token Jess is one of the most outspoken (and honest) people on this forum, I dont think anyone should be silenced, if anything it rallies everyone together for a cause.

as for the statement someone made about an escort putting the wall up, keep in mind its a job. I dont care to meet people in a casual manner at my work. What builds up that relationship is time, return visits and more opportunities to learn about one another. dont blame for not wanting something other that what they are doing which is more than likely a job.

Kennedy your man is a Boss I couldnt imagine dating any porn star or escort im that jealous type he really must be a very forward thinking man. Keep up that website its doing the damn thing for sure.

[werwt22]

there have been quite a few crazy comments made on this forum (usually from the same people) that I view as opposing what this forum is about. I surely see how a lot of the women on here could be offended. I love the fact that girls that I have lusted after like Kennedy or Jess when I was in the carolinas are on this forum speaking their minds. But on that same token Jess is one of the most outspoken (and honest) people on this forum, I dont think anyone should be silenced, if anything it rallies everyone together for a cause.

as for the statement someone made about an escort putting the wall up, keep in mind its a job. I dont care to meet people in a casual manner at my work. What builds up that relationship is time, return visits and more opportunities to learn about one another. dont blame for not wanting something other that what they are doing which is more than likely a job.

Kennedy your man is a Boss I couldnt imagine dating any porn star or escort im that jealous type he really must be a very forward thinking man. Keep up that website its doing the damn thing for sure.

Return visits? HAHA It's not the lottery LMAO. Free ass for life after five visits....right.
Almost any girl will tell you they separate business from pleasure, and if your paying, you will most likely never have any form of relationship with them other than what you pay for, no matter how many "return visits". I'm not trying to discourage anyone from paying for an escort, some guys just wanna get down to business sometimes, if that's your thing then hey, be my guest, but let's just be real here. It dont work that way. :cool:

[MrKnockOut]

Return visits? HAHA It's not the lottery LMAO. Free ass for life after five visits....right.
Almost any girl will tell you they separate business from pleasure, and if your paying, you will most likely never have any form of relationship with them other than what you pay for, no matter how many "return visits". I'm not trying to discourage anyone from paying for an escort, some guys just wanna get down to business sometimes, if that's your thing then hey, be my guest, but let's just be real here. It dont work that way. :cool:


basically what i was gonna say

[4mystuffin]

Return visits? HAHA It's not the lottery LMAO. Free ass for life after five visits....right.
Almost any girl will tell you they separate business from pleasure, and if your paying, you will most likely never have any form of relationship with them other than what you pay for, no matter how many "return visits". I'm not trying to discourage anyone from paying for an escort, some guys just wanna get down to business sometimes, if that's your thing then hey, be my guest, but let's just be real here. It dont work that way. :cool:

I agree Im not trying to hook up that was a response to another persons comment in this thread and in a lot of other threads. I pay for sex but its so I dont have to deal with the bullshit of relationships and what not, not in the hopes of starting one. nice " " though that was some hot shit the way you threw them up there. keep up the good work slick.

[vidman]

HAHA I already gave you that one. I told you I agree as far as hating on someone, and yes I understand you have feelings. That's not the point I was making. Hope you didnt think I was referring to the comments people make to belittle you as valid points. I'm just saying people disagree and you shouldn't be banned, deleted, or blocked because someone doesn't jump on the bandwagon.

I see your point, but I think what Logan is saying is that a difference of opinion or preference doesn't have to be manifested into disrespectful. It's quite alright to not agree with the premise of a transsexual, or with the premise of a transsexual sex industry worker. But that is still no excuse for being disrespectful. Difference of opinion is fine, but what comes out of one's mouth can either build or destroy. Let's not be destructive.

The TS spraying the lil boy with mase on the subway was a perfect example. Those words from that little boy's mouth were very destructive. The family could have very well disagreed with the premise of being a transsexual, but did they have to be disrespectful and begin to destroy this person with harsh words? No.

[k.logan]

I see your point, but I think what Logan is saying is that a difference of opinion or preference doesn't have to be manifested into disrespectful. It's quite alright to not agree with the premise of a transsexual, or with the premise of a transsexual sex industry worker. But that is still no excuse for being disrespectful. Difference of opinion is fine, but what comes out of one's mouth can either build or destroy. Let's not be destructive.

The TS spraying the lil boy with mase on the subway was a perfect example. Those words from that little boy's mouth were very destructive. The family could have very well disagreed with the premise of being a transsexual, but did they have to be disrespectful and begin to destroy this person with harsh words? No. Exactly My Point! Thast was so uncalled For!

[k.logan]

there have been quite a few crazy comments made on this forum (usually from the same people) that I view as opposing what this forum is about. I surely see how a lot of the women on here could be offended. I love the fact that girls that I have lusted after like Kennedy or Jess when I was in the carolinas are on this forum speaking their minds. But on that same token Jess is one of the most outspoken (and honest) people on this forum, I dont think anyone should be silenced, if anything it rallies everyone together for a cause.

as for the statement someone made about an escort putting the wall up, keep in mind its a job. I dont care to meet people in a casual manner at my work. What builds up that relationship is time, return visits and more opportunities to learn about one another. dont blame for not wanting something other that what they are doing which is more than likely a job.

Kennedy your man is a Boss I couldnt imagine dating any porn star or escort im that jealous type he really must be a very forward thinking man. Keep up that website its doing the damn thing for sure.

Well I Must say he is a good dude but he also realizes that life is real and everybody isnt meant to be a doctor or nurse. Im professeional i dont involve my work life with my personal life instead of him worrying of what i do his concern is my saftey and we Ride Or Die togther! I think another thing that helps is that he does not even press power on a pc he's not a computer guy at all thank god!

[Handandsom]

Its a Difference between making a Valid Point thats why its refered to as valid! If You havent noticed ive taken what i do and turned into something positive. Once again if you dont like trannys because they are "hoes" and "men" then why come to a "Porn site" or forum full of hoes that are actually men and then state it in a thread? How many of these men with valid points deal with a tranny day by day to notice that they are human, they have feelings, they love , they hurt they are human they should be treated as such! :confused:

at the blah blah blah point :) :
I like em all (trans....hoes, men, porn site, even the all american trans... Joe "THE AMERICAN HERO" :confused: political chatter) yet beyond the bare min... which is w/ respect (until proven otherwise) each category is treated differently some you treat with kids gloves others you have to use bear claws :rolleyes: Then again I understand a person's frustration and therefore venting sessions because there is and ugly side to this game.....(business, relationships, attitudes, "you name it", etc) I applaud anyones hustle if the intent is not to harm anyone and yet to do positive things

[Handandsom]

Kennedy, I totally agree with you. If you don't like the music being played on 103.3, turn the dial to 107.9! lol. Seriously, the real, but sad issue is that in 2009, people still have a problem with diversity. At what point will people realize that we all differ, from the smallest similarities to the greatest of divides. We are so caught up in our own world of self-awareness that we forget to realize that people are all different. The question was raised in a forum last week about "dating a transsexual escort/porn star." My answer was "HECK YEAH I WOULD" because if two people are attracted to each other in a way that creates a genuine reciprocation of love and affection, why try to stop it with some nonsense reason. People are praying to find the love of their lives and some people have love hit them smack dab in the face and let it pass them by because of stupid pride and prejudice. Once we, especially black men, stop being so judgmental and frowning upon people who do things that we wouldn't quite do, then the disrespect will stop because the understanding factor will kick in. No man on here will boldly say that they wouldn't date Natalia Coxx, Fia, Ebony, Katie Cokkks, Kennedy, Victoria Porshe, Chyna, Infinity or Taylor, etc, etc. My point in listing so many names is to get the guys to just think about what they are ultimately saying when they claim that they would never date a porn star/escort. These are just a few of the beautiful girls that I mentioned. Sorry fellas, but I wouldn't pass up one chance to date one of these girls regardless of how many guys they've tricked or how many porn films they've shot loads in. AND...I would treat them with the respect they deserve just for being normal people trying to get their bills paid.

I should'a started right here: cause yes i fit the guy description and i would date the above list almost in that order strike Katie off and move Kennedy up a few. But again it would be in the traditional sense of dating. It has to be an agreed upon version of the traditional sense. And maybe we can start a thread simply on this which is how can you pose a traditional solution to a non-traditional issue it can't work. If you look at the reality of the situation you will find we can't even get the traditional solution right when its applied to the traditional problem. :cool: I tend to think whether or not people hide shy away from transexuals its not from the people themselves i believe it is more from the attitudes and personalities of the people.:cool:

[roninva]

No man on here will boldly say that they wouldn't date Natalia Coxx, Fia, Ebony, Katie Cokkks, Kennedy, Victoria Porshe, Chyna, Infinity or Taylor, etc, etc. My point in listing so many names is to get the guys to just think about what they are ultimately saying when they claim that they would never date a porn star/escort.

why wouldn't they say it

it has nothing to do with her looks, it has to do with what she does, dating a person who works in the adult biz can have it's negative points, and if your not willing to deal with it, it's best not to even go there with it, and most guys can't and won't.

not many guys are cool with their girl getting fucked by the next highest bidder a couple of times a day, and shooting vids, you have to be very open to the fact that you may be in a room and half the guys in there have busted nuts down her throat and you know it's a fact that they have. most guys don't want to picture their girl getting gangbanger with nut juice running down her face if it isn't his own, and they don't want to know if their girl was a jumpoff in her past, and they damn sure don't want to know that she is in the present and will be in the future.
if you think you can handle it, go for it if not don't

[vidman]

I should'a started right here: cause yes i fit the guy description and i would date the above list almost in that order strike Katie off and move Kennedy up a few. But again it would be in the traditional sense of dating. It has to be an agreed upon version of the traditional sense. And maybe we can start a thread simply on this which is how can you pose a traditional solution to a non-traditional issue it can't work. If you look at the reality of the situation you will find we can't even get the traditional solution right when its applied to the traditional problem. :cool: I tend to think whether or not people hide shy away from transexuals its not from the people themselves i believe it is more from the attitudes and personalities of the people.:cool:

Handandsome, you just proved the point of how you can disagree with an opinion without being disrespectful about it. In this case, you voiced your opinion of Katie. You weren't disrespectful and resorted to name calling and absurdities. You simply disagreed with her being in my list of beautiful women. Well done. This is my point and Kennedy's as well.
....and just for the record, my list of beautiful women was in no particular order, I just put the baddest chics I could think of that I've ever seen in my life. Not in any 1-2-3 order.

Now, about the rest of your comment. I think the issue has nothing to do with "traditional/non-traditional" issues. The key word in all of this rhetoric is "LOVE" my brother. I'm not talking about the general "love everyone, love thy neighbor" love. I'm talking about the love that drives two people towards each other with such force, that the "so called baggage" that came with both individuals is not even a problem.

I am dead serious when I say that I would date a transsexual woman even while she is working in the sex industry. As long as she isn't giving her emotional self to some other guy, I'm okay with it. The physical is nothing. I would never ask a young lady to quit her job just to accommodate me. I'm not that selfish. It's about being on a level beyond the worldly. Only the worldly views will allow a person to dismiss true love just because he/she is afraid of what others might think. Personally, I could care less if someone thinks I'm foolish for dating a woman that I truly love, and she truly loves me, just because she's a porn star/escort. I'm above that miniscule thought process. As long as she comes home and gives me her emotional 100%, I'm okay with it. And it doesn't matter what others think of me because they can't and won't contribute to my happiness.

[roninva]

I am dead serious when I say that I would date a transsexual woman even while she is working in the sex industry. As long as she isn't giving her emotional self to some other guy, I'm okay with it. The physical is nothing. I would never ask a young lady to quit her job just to accommodate me. I'm not that selfish. It's about being on a level beyond the worldly. Only the worldly views will allow a person to dismiss true love just because he/she is afraid of what others might think. Personally, I could care less if someone thinks I'm foolish for dating a woman that I truly love, and she truly loves me, just because she's a porn star/escort. I'm above that miniscule thought process. As long as she comes home and gives me her emotional 100%, I'm okay with it. And it doesn't matter what others think of me because they can't and won't contribute to my happiness.

Are you speaking from the experienced level or from the non experienced level
it's not what the world thinks, it what you feel totally ok with, not just today but 5 years from now.

[vidman]

why wouldn't they say it

it has nothing to do with her looks, it has to do with what she does, dating a person who works in the adult biz can have it's negative points, and if your not willing to deal with it, it's best not to even go there with it, and most guys can't and won't.

not many guys are cool with their girl getting fucked by the next highest bidder a couple of times a day, and shooting vids, you have to be very open to the fact that you may be in a room and half the guys in there have busted nuts down her throat and you know it's a fact that they have. most guys don't want to picture their girl getting gangbanger with nut juice running down her face if it isn't his own, and they don't want to know if their girl was a jumpoff in her past, and they damn sure don't want to know that she is in the present and will be in the future.
if you think you can handle it, go for it if not don't


Well I can definitely tell that you aren't willing to date a girl who's in the industry just by your grapic and vividly negative description of the would-be scenarios.

Again, I personally look at it as a job. I mean, I go to a job everyday where I am potentially exposed to bacterial agents such as MRSA (staph), Hepatitis B/C, different droplet and airborne pathogens, etc and etc. I surely would hate for my woman to give me an ultimatum to either quit my job or she's out. Especially if I truly care about her and she truly cares about me. That would be devastating. But then again, if she truly cared about me, she wouldn't be giving me that ultimatum now would she. (ahhh-HA!!!)

Maybe, what would break down some of the misunderstandings is if people talked about their positions before engaging in attempted relationships. I would sit down and talk with the trans-woman that I am attracted to and let her know my position on her employment status. If it turns out that her line of work is okay with me an my line of work is okay with her, then I guess it shouldn't be a problem should it. Unless, of course, I'm worried about what others think. Quite frankly, I could care less about what others say about me. Just being brutally frank.

[roninva]

Well I can definitely tell that you aren't willing to date a girl who's in the industry just by your grapic and vividly negative description of the would-be scenarios.

Again, I personally look at it as a job. I mean, I go to a job everyday where I am potentially exposed to bacterial agents such as MRSA (staph), Hepatitis B/C, different droplet and airborne pathogens, etc and etc. I surely would hate for my woman to give me an ultimatum to either quit my job or she's out. Especially if I truly care about her and she truly cares about me. That would be devastating. But then again, if she truly cared about me, she wouldn't be giving me that ultimatum now would she. (ahhh-HA!!!)

Maybe, what would break down some of the misunderstandings is if people talked about their positions before engaging in attempted relationships. I would sit down and talk with the trans-woman that I am attracted to and let her know my position on her employment status. If it turns out that her line of work is okay with me an my line of work is okay with her, then I guess it shouldn't be a problem should it. Unless, of course, I'm worried about what others think. Quite frankly, I could care less about what others say about me. Just being brutally frank.

So I take it you haven't experienced it yet from all of that,
I have dated GG girls that were/are in the industry. you think it would be easier, not really.
like I say it has nothing to do with what the world thinks about you, it has to do with what you are ok with, today and five years from now

you know why most porn people marry people in the biz in some way, it makes it a lot smoother, if your not in the biz in some form you may find it's not all fun, and if your in a business that you have to have some sort of public image in the real non adult world can negatively impact you, be ready for that.
about my graphic descriptions, want to be with a porn girl or escort girl, well get use to it. not negative at all, it of part of the business, if my graphic description bothers you then your not going to last.

[vidman]

Are you speaking from the experienced level or from the non experienced level
it's not what the world thinks, it what you feel totally ok with, not just today but 5 years from now.

I am definitely speaking from experience. I have mostly dated biological women, but I have dated two transsexual women in my life. One is in the sex industry right now. The only reason we didn't last is because she lives in an entirely different state. She was in the sex industry then and she still is. I didn't mind at all because it was allowing both of us to chip in for plane tickets to see each other.

Five years from now, hopefully a relationship could blossom and prosper to a point to where she doesn't need to work in the sex industry. But if she feels as if she enjoys the sex industry, then I wouldn't mind her doing and working in something that she enjoys.

Roninva, it's called being totally content and secure with your life and yourself. It's called being totally comprised of your significant other. It's called true love. I really loved this girl and if it weren't for the distance between us, we would still be together right now and she would still be engaging in whatever activities that the job/trick would entel. And I haven't the slightest problem with that.

[roninva]

I am definitely speaking from experience. I have mostly dated biological women, but I have dated two transsexual women in my life. One is in the sex industry right now. The only reason we didn't last is because she lives in an entirely different state. She was in the sex industry then and she still is. I didn't mind at all because it was allowing both of us to chip in for plane tickets to see each other.

Five years from now, hopefully a relationship could blossom and prosper to a point to where she doesn't need to work in the sex industry. But if she feels as if she enjoys the sex industry, then I wouldn't mind her doing and working in something that she enjoys.

Roninva, it's called being totally content and secure with your life and yourself. It's called being totally comprised of your significant other. It's called true love. I really loved this girl and if it weren't for the distance between us, we would still be together right now and she would still be engaging in whatever activities that the job/trick would entel. And I haven't the slightest problem with that.

You know i'm talking about five years with the same person, day in day out, not boucing around from lover to lover,
I mean some guys are perfectly ok with it, but I have found that a lot of girls in the industry particularly in the escort industry really don't want a man who with tolerate it, they have boyfriends that do but for the most part the guy they really settle down with is not the guy that they were with while they are working, really odd isn't it, a lot of them feel that there is a weakness to the guy, and I heard that from many GG escorts
Now Trans escorts may see this a little differently so ladies what's your view.

[vidman]

So I take it you haven't experienced it yet from all of that,
I have dated GG girls that were/are in the industry. you think it would be easier, not really.
like I say it has nothing to do with what the world thinks about you, it has to do with what you are ok with, today and five years from now

you know why most porn people marry people in the biz in some way, it makes it a lot smoother, if your not in the biz in some form you may find it's not all fun, and if your in a business that you have to have some sort of public image in the real non adult world can negatively impact you, be ready for that.
about my graphic descriptions, want to be with a porn girl or escort girl, well get use to it. not negative at all, it of part of the business, if my graphic description bothers you then your not going to last.


Homeboy, get over yourself. I was only speaking of how you grapically you described someone's woman having "cum down her throat......"
As I said before, I don't mind the business. Personally speaking, I am totally okay with my woman engaging in that type of work if that's what was paying her bills before she met me and if that's what continues to pay the bills. Like Logan said, "everybody's not meant to be doctors and lawyers." We all have to do what we can to survive. Being that transsexuals are HEAVILY discriminated against, it's not that easy for them to go out and get a good job. Hell, it's not easy for them to go out and get a rinky-dink job like a floor sweeper or dish-washer. But since they are people too, just like me and you, they have to do what they can to survive. And since there is an industry/market for them, which happens to be men, they exploit that situation to make money for yourself. It's quite simple to me.

[vidman]

You know i'm talking about five years with the same person, day in day out, not boucing around from lover to lover,
I mean some guys are perfectly ok with it, but I have found that a lot of girls in the industry particularly in the escort industry really don't want a man who with tolerate it, they have boyfriends that do but for the most part the guy they really settle down with is not the guy that they were with while they are working, really odd isn't it, a lot of them feel that there is a weakness to the guy, and I heard that from many GG escorts
Now Trans escorts may see this a little differently so ladies what's your view.

Well if that be the case, then she wasn't truly in love with you then. Which means that it probably wouldn't have worked in the first place. Which means that those two people should probably do each other a favor and break up anyway. ya know?

True love knocks down all of these barriers that you continue to build. I've been there man, trust me. It's not that hard.

[roninva]

Well if that be the case, then she wasn't truly in love with you then. Which means that it probably wouldn't have worked in the first place. Which means that those two people should probably do each other a favor and break up anyway. ya know?

True love knocks down all of these barriers that you continue to build. I've been there man, trust me. It's not that hard.

Love what are you talking about, wasn't about love for me, I dated her I never said loved her and the others, (there are a lot of positives dating industry girls, you meet a lot of girls who aren't hung up on sex) they were never my woman, I knew better than to do that. and I knew that wasn't for me, I knew I had no intention of being that guy. seen way too many horror stories in real time.

got a question, you ever go to a shoot and watch your girl in action, or sit before the shoot talking to 3 or 4 guys who are going to be doing a gangbang on her in the next 10 minutes. been there done that, wasnt too interested in see my girl getting DP (but seeing a girl was cool), if you can do that and your totally cool with it, more power to you. but for me I never made one my girl, but good friend, yes I am, I didn't give of shit what they did, but always the good friend indeed.

also the ones i dated did the adult business because they wanted to not as a alternative to a rinky dink job, these girls either had degrees or advanced degrees or were working on them, they just like to fuck, alot... they looked good and people were willing to pay them for it, the ones I know who stopped and were escorts have good jobs and are with guys who have no idea about their past, and they don't want them to know.

I know it tougher on the Trans girls, but unfortunately that's the way of the world for now, hopefully there will be full acceptance.
Look if you are cool with it as I been saying all along good for you, live your life.

[vidman]

Love what are you talking about, wasn't about love for me, I dated her I never said loved her and the others, (there are a lot of positives dating industry girls, you meet a lot of girls who aren't hung up on sex) they were never my woman, I knew better than to do that. and I knew that wasn't for me, I knew I had no intention of being that guy. seen way too many horror stories in real time.

got a question, you ever go to a shoot and watch your girl in action, or sit before the shoot talking to 3 or 4 guys who are going to be doing a gangbang on her in the next 10 minutes. been there done that, wasnt too interested in see my girl getting DP (but seeing a girl was cool), if you can do that and your totally cool with it, more power to you. but for me I never made one my girl, but good friend, yes I am, I didn't give of shit what they did, but always the good friend indeed.

also the ones i dated did the adult business because they wanted to not as a alternative to a rinky dink job, these girls either had degrees or advanced degrees or were working on them, they just like to fuck, alot... they looked good and people were willing to pay them for it, the ones I know who stopped and were escorts have good jobs and are with guys who have no idea about their past, and they don't want them to know.

I know it tougher on the Trans girls, but unfortunately that's the way of the world for now, hopefully there will be full acceptance.
Look if you are cool with it as I been saying all along good for you, live your life.

So what was your point. lol.

[ty-clone]

It's a forum, some people love to big up and "pay" the girls and some dudes just call it how they see it. I don't think it's a thing of disrespect or being "allowed to say whatever". I don't think it's a thing of being hateful or disrespectful, I do think it's a thing of truth. Some people like it, some people don't. It is what it is.

There's a topic labeled "why are black men so bad at...", should I be offended as a black man?
There's a topic labeled "the guys on this forum are dead...", should I be offended as a guy?
I could go on and on...
I'm not offended because those things don't apply to me.
If someone called me a ni&&er, should I feel hurt? Why? I don't choose to take ownership of that word...
If someone calls you a hoe, it will only hurt if you take ownership of that word. If you've been in a committed relationship with your guy for 4 years, more power to you, he's down with what you do and you guys are making it work.

preach on, i hear girls of both sort GG & TG diss men all the time, I don’t sweat it. Its just their point of view on how they see things as we men have our own points of views

[ty-clone]

I see your point, but I think what Logan is saying is that a difference of opinion or preference doesn't have to be manifested into disrespectful. It's quite alright to not agree with the premise of a transsexual, or with the premise of a transsexual sex industry worker. But that is still no excuse for being disrespectful. Difference of opinion is fine, but what comes out of one's mouth can either build or destroy. Let's not be destructive.

The TS spraying the lil boy with mase on the subway was a perfect example. Those words from that little boy's mouth were very destructive. The family could have very well disagreed with the premise of being a transsexual, but did they have to be disrespectful and begin to destroy this person with harsh words? No.

again, maybe its me. but i haven’t read anything on this site that remotely comparable to the boy getting mase on the subway. If im wrong, please post an example

[roninva]

So what was your point. lol.
the point is, 99 % of the guys that want to be in a relationship with someone in the industry aren't going to find it to be ok after awhile, the shit looks fine when your in your 20's like most of the ladies, but what about when your hitting your 30's and 40's, most guys aren't with the same girl they were with when they were 21 and not a pro, most of the ladies here are 18-28 y.o. they most likely will not be with the same guy when they hit 30-35

We know most of these ladies will be out of this biz before they hit 30, just works that way in the adult biz, how many of the porn girls of the 80's and 90's or even 2001 2002 do you still see at the top of the game, how many of the ones you see now will be around in 2019, whole new crop many times over.

I don't know how old you are but, it would tell me a lot, and the whole distance thing shouldn't of matter, you did say her activities kept you in plane tickets, so that shouldn't of been the problem, most escorts and porn girl do tours all the time, if you ok with your woman posting around the country on Ero's Backpage, craigslist etc, good for you.

you know the distance excuse can coverup a whole lot of other problems, that you may not have known about because you were so much in love as you say.
Still wondering if your girl was doing porn, did you ever go to a shoot, I think you maybe ok with it if you didn't have to see it live and up close. sortta the don't ask don't tell type of relationship.
But to each his own,
like one guy said what she did in her past, he's cool with it's, it's the present and future they may have a issue with.

[k.logan]

the point is, 99 % of the guys that want to be in a relationship with someone in the industry aren't going to find it to be ok after awhile, the shit looks fine when your in your 20's like most of the ladies, but what about when your hitting your 30's and 40's, most guys aren't with the same girl they were with when they were 21 and not a pro, most of the ladies here are 18-28 y.o. they most likely will not be with the same guy when they hit 30-35

We know most of these ladies will be out of this biz before they hit 30, just works that way in the adult biz, how many of the porn girls of the 80's and 90's or even 2001 2002 do you still see at the top of the game, how many of the ones you see now will be around in 2019, whole new crop many times over.

I don't know how old you are but, it would tell me a lot, and the whole distance thing shouldn't of matter, you did say her activities kept you in plane tickets, so that shouldn't of been the problem, most escorts and porn girl do tours all the time, if you ok with your woman posting around the country on Ero's Backpage, craigslist etc, good for you.

you know the distance excuse can coverup a whole lot of other problems, that you may not have known about because you were so much in love as you say.
Still wondering if your girl was doing porn, did you ever go to a shoot, I think you maybe ok with it if you didn't have to see it live and up close. sortta the don't ask don't tell type of relationship.
But to each his own,
like one guy said what she did in her past, he's cool with it's, it's the present and future they may have a issue with.

Im 20 Something now lol and when i turn 28 i plan to be out of the buisness. At the point im getting my srs and that would be sacred between and the lucky guy. I think thats a good plan escpecially if im still with the same guy and we both agreed on it.

[werwt22]

Homeboy, get over yourself. I was only speaking of how you grapically you described someone's woman having "cum down her throat......"
As I said before, I don't mind the business. Personally speaking, I am totally okay with my woman engaging in that type of work if that's what was paying her bills before she met me and if that's what continues to pay the bills. Like Logan said, "everybody's not meant to be doctors and lawyers." We all have to do what we can to survive. Being that transsexuals are HEAVILY discriminated against, it's not that easy for them to go out and get a good job. Hell, it's not easy for them to go out and get a rinky-dink job like a floor sweeper or dish-washer. But since they are people too, just like me and you, they have to do what they can to survive. And since there is an industry/market for them, which happens to be men, they exploit that situation to make money for yourself. It's quite simple to me.

If I recall walmart hires at least one of everything. :)

[werwt22]

why wouldn't they say it

it has nothing to do with her looks, it has to do with what she does, dating a person who works in the adult biz can have it's negative points, and if your not willing to deal with it, it's best not to even go there with it, and most guys can't and won't.

not many guys are cool with their girl getting fucked by the next highest bidder a couple of times a day, and shooting vids, you have to be very open to the fact that you may be in a room and half the guys in there have busted nuts down her throat and you know it's a fact that they have. most guys don't want to picture their girl getting gangbanger with nut juice running down her face if it isn't his own, and they don't want to know if their girl was a jumpoff in her past, and they damn sure don't want to know that she is in the present and will be in the future.
if you think you can handle it, go for it if not don't

LMAO this one was hilarious. Some good points though. I can personally say, I wouldnt have wanted to deal with a lot of these situations. And guys do get clowned for that shit. I actually met one of the top tgirls back around 03 in the subway thinking she was a gg. She told me she was a "message therapist". Embarrassed to put the entertainer escort portion out there thinking it would run me away maybe?

[MrKnockOut]

[QUOTE=ty-clone;10098]preach on, i hear girls of both sort GG & TG diss men all the time, I don

[vidman]

the point is, 99 % of the guys that want to be in a relationship with someone in the industry aren't going to find it to be ok after awhile, the shit looks fine when your in your 20's like most of the ladies, but what about when your hitting your 30's and 40's, most guys aren't with the same girl they were with when they were 21 and not a pro, most of the ladies here are 18-28 y.o. they most likely will not be with the same guy when they hit 30-35

We know most of these ladies will be out of this biz before they hit 30, just works that way in the adult biz, how many of the porn girls of the 80's and 90's or even 2001 2002 do you still see at the top of the game, how many of the ones you see now will be around in 2019, whole new crop many times over.

I don't know how old you are but, it would tell me a lot, and the whole distance thing shouldn't of matter, you did say her activities kept you in plane tickets, so that shouldn't of been the problem, most escorts and porn girl do tours all the time, if you ok with your woman posting around the country on Ero's Backpage, craigslist etc, good for you.

you know the distance excuse can coverup a whole lot of other problems, that you may not have known about because you were so much in love as you say.
Still wondering if your girl was doing porn, did you ever go to a shoot, I think you maybe ok with it if you didn't have to see it live and up close. sortta the don't ask don't tell type of relationship.
But to each his own,
like one guy said what she did in her past, he's cool with it's, it's the present and future they may have a issue with.

Dude, you're scattered. You're reaching all over the place. First, your argument was about men not being able to handle being in a relationship with a girl in the sex industry. Then you conveniently changed it to "dating" instead of "being in a relationship." Let's try to keep the topic a bit more streamlined shall we?

Secondly, my age wouldn't tell you anything about my situation. You throw stats out there like you're some type of statitician or something. "99% of guys that want to be....." Dude, unless you can show me some hardcore facts or data, I refuse to believe that you know what feelings rest in the hearts of 99% of the men in this world.

There's no reason for me to cover up anything. Don't be upset because I am a bit more secure about myself than you are about yourself. The reason my relationship didn't work is because the distance was a strain. Don't tell me I'm lying and don't try to steer my words in the direction you want them to go.

Again, you're misconstruing my words. I never said that "her activities kept me in plane tickets." You said that! I said that her line of work HELPED us see each other. We both chipped in. It's a relationship and that's part of the dynamics of a true relationship. I assume that you wouldn't know that.

I gather that you lack confidence, self esteem, intuitiveness and a few other intangibles and maybe some tangibles too, the reason you can't keep a woman. Or maybe something has happened to you during your experiences with ladies in the industry. Just because you've had a rough time, doesn't mean I've had or will have a rough time. Misery loves company and it seems that you want people in the "Miser Group" with you.

In summary, my opinion is expressed as previously stated. I have not one problem with dating a transsexual woman who makes her living in the sex industry. I'm not talking about just dating. I'm talking about a relationship. I would engage in a relationship with a transsexual who's in the porn/escort industry. Hey, maybe you wouldn't. That's definitely your call. As for me, I've no problems. I could care less what you, or others who agree with your opinion, think or say about me. I live my life for my satisfaction and for the person I'm satisfying. For all others who are on the outside looking in, pay attention to your own state of affairs and try to find someone who will love you. Negative attitudes bring about negative outcomes. You sir, are a big ball of negativity which explains your relationship failures (or should I say negative outcomes in your relationships).

[H-townBTGHunter]

This Is a Tranny website so if u dont love or respect these beutiful women. Get yo a$$ the Hell off of here. If u on here then u must b attracted to the ladies. If A beautiful girl like Logan wanted to go out with me she wouldnt have to ask twice. Its the best of both worlds!!! All in All respect the girls and stop hating. H-Town Out!!!

[roninva]

Dude, you're scattered. You're reaching all over the place. First, your argument was about men not being able to handle being in a relationship with a girl in the sex industry. Then you conveniently changed it to "dating" instead of "being in a relationship." Let's try to keep the topic a bit more streamlined shall we?

Secondly, my age wouldn't tell you anything about my situation. You throw stats out there like you're some type of statitician or something. "99% of guys that want to be....." Dude, unless you can show me some hardcore facts or data, I refuse to believe that you know what feelings rest in the hearts of 99% of the men in this world.

There's no reason for me to cover up anything. Don't be upset because I am a bit more secure about myself than you are about yourself. The reason my relationship didn't work is because the distance was a strain. Don't tell me I'm lying and don't try to steer my words in the direction you want them to go.

Again, you're misconstruing my words. I never said that "her activities kept me in plane tickets." You said that! I said that her line of work HELPED us see each other. We both chipped in. It's a relationship and that's part of the dynamics of a true relationship. I assume that you wouldn't know that.

I gather that you lack confidence, self esteem, intuitiveness and a few other intangibles and maybe some tangibles too, the reason you can't keep a woman. Or maybe something has happened to you during your experiences with ladies in the industry. Just because you've had a rough time, doesn't mean I've had or will have a rough time. Misery loves company and it seems that you want people in the "Miser Group" with you.

In summary, my opinion is expressed as previously stated. I have not one problem with dating a transsexual woman who makes her living in the sex industry. I'm not talking about just dating. I'm talking about a relationship. I would engage in a relationship with a transsexual who's in the porn/escort industry. Hey, maybe you wouldn't. That's definitely your call. As for me, I've no problems. I could care less what you, or others who agree with your opinion, think or say about me. I live my life for my satisfaction and for the person I'm satisfying. For all others who are on the outside looking in, pay attention to your own state of affairs and try to find someone who will love you. Negative attitudes bring about negative outcomes. You sir, are a big ball of negativity which explains your relationship failures (or should I say negative outcomes in your relationships).

wow you got all that cause I won't fall in love with a girl actively working in the biz, maybe you fall in love cause you know in the end the distance, or whatever thing will ultimately come up and give you a out.
at least you can't say you didn't try..right

Can't keep a woman,.....I don't try to wifey a adult entertainer, I keep it in perspective that's all, I really don't want to see my girl having some dude pull his dick out her ass and busting a nut in her teeth, hey if's it's ok with you I'm not knocking it, but I bet the vast majority of the guys here feel the same as I do, I guess we all lack of self confidence, self esteem, because we aren't into it or maybe the fact that you don't mind may give a peek at your inability to have any respect for yourself. maybe it's what gets you off, hey good for you.

Whatever turns you on.

[werwt22]

I guess the guys that can deal with it, want a girl that other men want. Everyone wants a girl they can brag on. The"Trophy wife". But as usual you have to deal with all the men pursuing her and trying to get with her every corner she turns. My only issue comes in at they CAN get her every corner she turns for the right price. IDK, it kinda defeats the purpose to me. No point in having a beautiful woman everyone wants if they can have her also.

[vidman]

wow you got all that cause I won't fall in love with a girl actively working in the biz, maybe you fall in love cause you know in the end the distance, or whatever thing will ultimately come up and give you a out.
at least you can't say you didn't try..right

Can't keep a woman,.....I don't try to wifey a adult entertainer, I keep it in perspective that's all, I really don't want to see my girl having some dude pull his dick out her ass and busting a nut in her teeth, hey if's it's ok with you I'm not knocking it, but I bet the vast majority of the guys here feel the same as I do, I guess we all lack of self confidence, self esteem, because we aren't into it or maybe the fact that you don't mind may give a peek at your inability to have any respect for yourself. maybe it's what gets you off, hey good for you.

Whatever turns you on.


...or maybe it's your perception of transsexual women. You always refer to the transgirls in some sexually demoralizing way such ass, "a guy pulling his dick out of her ass and nuttin in her teeth..." Sorry fella, but when
I think of a woman like Katie, Logan, Natalia or Victoria Porshe, I don't see that automatic image in my head.

It seems to me that the self esteem/confidence issue is definitley your drama and you should deal with that the best way you can. If trying to get men to join your "let's bash a nasty, trampy, dick-sucking, cum-swallowing tranny," crusade is your answer then sorry buddy, I'm not interested.

As they say, "misery loves company"

[roninva]

...or maybe it's your perception of transsexual women. You always refer to the transgirls in some sexually demoralizing way such ass, "a guy pulling his dick out of her ass and nuttin in her teeth..." Sorry fella, but when
I think of a woman like Katie, Logan, Natalia or Victoria Porshe, I don't see that automatic image in my head.

It seems to me that the self esteem/confidence issue is definitley your drama and you should deal with that the best way you can. If trying to get men to join your "let's bash a nasty, trampy, dick-sucking, cum-swallowing tranny," crusade is your answer then sorry buddy, I'm not interested.

As they say, "misery loves company"

I'm talking about any woman any gender that does porn, you do watch the hardcore porn here and elsewhere correct, in the end there is always the pop shot the money shot, and in the mouth or face is usually where it is deposited, if you do a anal scene you usually still end up with a facial, that's part of the job if they are being paid to do that type of scene.
You need to open your eyes to the fact that if your dating a porn chick she most likely will end of doing one or both of those scene, that's if she really wants to make it as a porn chick and get work.

So it's not any type of self esteem issue it's a reality issue that you have to deal with, like I said I don't care if a porn girl who is my friend does that, but I am not interest in MY girl doing that, if it's in her past fine, but not interested in seeing her on a video flimed this week on some site as a weekly update showing the same scene as I described and dick sucking and cum swallowing, and a guy pulling his dick out her ass and dropping a load down her throat is part of it if she agreed and has been paid to do the scene. just another porn day
As I said if your cool with it and can stand to be at a shoot where your girl is required to do this, more power to you.
got nothing to do with bashing anyone, just a fact of porn life.
And no I don't think any lady that does porn is nasty or trampy at all, i'm totally cool with it, I just don't want MY GIRL to be doing it,

[vidman]

I'm talking about any woman any gender that does porn, you do watch the hardcore porn here and elsewhere correct, in the end there is always the pop shot the money shot, and in the mouth or face is usually where it is deposited, if you do a anal scene you usually still end up with a facial, that's part of the job if they are being paid to do that type of scene.
You need to open your eyes to the fact that if your dating a porn chick she most likely will end of doing one or both of those scene, that's if she really wants to make it as a porn chick and get work.

So it's not any type of self esteem issue it's a reality issue that you have to deal with, like I said I don't care if a porn girl who is my friend does that, but I am not interest in MY girl doing that, if it's in her past fine, but not interested in seeing her on a video flimed this week on some site as a weekly update showing the same scene as I described and dick sucking and cum swallowing, and a guy pulling his dick out her ass and dropping a load down her throat is part of it if she agreed and has been paid to do the scene. just another porn day
As I said if your cool with it and can stand to be at a shoot where your girl is required to do this, more power to you.
got nothing to do with bashing anyone, just a fact of porn life.
And no I don't think any lady that does porn is nasty or trampy at all, i'm totally cool with it, I just don't want MY GIRL to be doing it,

Well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one. You have your views and I have mine. It's called individuality. I guess that's what makes all of us individually unique now isn't it.

[roninva]

Well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one. You have your views and I have mine. It's called individuality. I guess that's what makes all of us individually unique now isn't it.

The only thing is that you're disagreeing with reality of being with a porn girl. to each his reach.

[TsVanessa69]

Well I Must say he is a good dude but he also realizes that life is real and everybody isnt meant to be a doctor or nurse. Im professeional i dont involve my work life with my personal life instead of him worrying of what i do his concern is my saftey and we Ride Or Die togther! I think another thing that helps is that he does not even press power on a pc he's not a computer guy at all thank god!

Can I tell you how lucky and blessed you are.
Truly shows that girls in the industry are worth being loved and cared for after the shoots are done, the computer shut off and you go home or go to bed.
Lucky you are!

[k.logan]

Can I tell you how lucky and blessed you are.
Truly shows that girls in the industry are worth being loved and cared for after the shoots are done, the computer shut off and you go home or go to bed.
Lucky you are!

Thank You and that's exactly how its suppose to be Vanessa its all cyber not reality. Thats what makes it possible will power, and me and him have the normal problems that every relationship have but i can admit my work is never one of them.

[anonymoussonny]

It's a forum, some people love to big up and "pay" the girls and some dudes just call it how they see it. I don't think it's a thing of disrespect or being "allowed to say whatever". I don't think it's a thing of being hateful or disrespectful, I do think it's a thing of truth. Some people like it, some people don't. It is what it is.

There's a topic labeled "why are black men so bad at...", should I be offended as a black man?
There's a topic labeled "the guys on this forum are dead...", should I be offended as a guy?
I could go on and on...
I'm not offended because those things don't apply to me.
If someone called me a ni&&er, should I feel hurt? Why? I don't choose to take ownership of that word...
If someone calls you a hoe, it will only hurt if you take ownership of that word. If you've been in a committed relationship with your guy for 4 years, more power to you, he's down with what you do and you guys are making it work.

Amen from the choir stand!

[vidman]

The only thing is that you're disagreeing with reality of being with a porn girl. to each his reach.


Man, don't try to tell me how I feel or what I disagree with. Just because I don't agree with you philosophy doesn't make me good, bad, stupid or crazy. Now, don't be a pompus ass. Just accept the fact that I have my feelings about the situation and you have yours. I can't stand people who try to tell me how I'm feeling or what I believe. You don't know me! If I say that I don't have a problem dating a girl in the industry, then damnit, that's what it is!

[H-townBTGHunter]

I have no problem dating someone in the industry. hell if I was comfortable in front of a camera I would be in the industry. With todays economy u gotta be a go getter and who am I to knock someones hustle. Enjoy your job and get that money. I could watch my girl on set bcuz I know she only wants me and at the end of the day we going home together. Logan your man is very lucky to have a beautiful smart person like u by his side and its great he is so understanding. I just hope I can find the same since u off the market:(. So ladies if u are looking for an attractive intelligent understanding guy. Holla at me:D

[ROC]

all I Have To Say Is I Love You Logan And Congrads On Ya 4 Yr. Anniversary Ma....... Some Mofo's Can't Even Last 4 Weeks, Lol........

[k.logan]

all I Have To Say Is I Love You Logan And Congrads On Ya 4 Yr. Anniversary Ma....... Some Mofo's Can't Even Last 4 Weeks, Lol........

Thanx Boo!!!:)

[MrKnockOut]

Thanx Boo!!!:)

Fuck that, im a jealous hater lol...let dude slip up, id wife u up n a minute

[k.logan]

Fuck that, im a jealous hater lol...let dude slip up, id wife u up n a minute

:):):):) Ok I got you

[DirtySouth]

I Know This is a Forum and its a place where people should be able to speak your mind and blah blah blah.... This is also a Transexual Porn website where most of the girls are escorts and if im not mistaken all were born men. I visit the forum quite often and some men on here are supportive and the other half seems to be angry. In my opinion at the notice of disrepect they should be automatically deleted.If were doing something (models) that you dont like here dont come. This is one of the places that we are suppose to have respect and lately thats not it! Also if you dont wanna date a tranny thats a pornstar its SIMPLE DONT DO IT! If you also dont wanna turn a hoe into a house wife DONT TRY IT! Its as simple as that. I must say i have alot of support on the forum bu that doenst excuse the fact that i see the men disrespect my sisters. Remeber this is a transexual porn forum, If you want a christian forum GO JOIN ONE!
This thread ws inspired by the latest active threads.
Also Congrats to me and my Boyfriends 4 year anniversary! So Dont say it dont Work Im Living Proof! R.E.S.P.E.C.T Find out what it means!

Awww come on....are you serious?

This is an open forum. Everyone has the right to offend and defend as long as it doesn't get into personal information thrown about recklessly. The TS girls get on here weekly and talk about how bad guys are in the same light, so should we start booting yall off for that too? This is one of the only forums that men who enjoy TS can come and openly discuss their lifestyle & sexuality - the good and the bad.

If we decide we want to talk about how much TS piss us off - we have the right to.

If we decide we want to come on here and glorify a girl because she's pretty and can skeet a good cum shot on her video - we have the right to.

If we want to come here and talk about who we would wife up - we have the right to.

This is what a forum is for. Everyone isnt going to agree and some crowds are going to feel disrespected. I say develop some thick skin and learn to respect other's opinions even if they aren't suitable to you.

[DirtySouth]

...or maybe it's your perception of transsexual women. You always refer to the transgirls in some sexually demoralizing way such ass, "a guy pulling his dick out of her ass and nuttin in her teeth..." Sorry fella, but when
I think of a woman like Katie, Logan, Natalia or Victoria Porshe, I don't see that automatic image in my head.

It seems to me that the self esteem/confidence issue is definitley your drama and you should deal with that the best way you can. If trying to get men to join your "let's bash a nasty, trampy, dick-sucking, cum-swallowing tranny," crusade is your answer then sorry buddy, I'm not interested.

As they say, "misery loves company"

WTF are you talking about? Hell those are all my girls that I shot and I luv each and everyone of their asses - but what you're saying doesn't make sense.

Let's keep it in perspective. You never saw these girls until you saw them shooting a load on this site. All that is on here is nasty, dick-sucking, cum busting scenes so if a guy relates to that, why does he have self esteem issues? He's talking about the very reason why he's here. The very reason for the product that we push.

Like I said in a previous post, you are entitled to your opinion and to express it but this is PORN people. This is not URNOTALONE or Hung Angels. A guy shouldnt get bashed if he thinks nasty thoughts about tgirls on a PORN SITE.

[k.logan]

Thanks for the suggestions but no thanks! My Skin is thick a shit Im a transexual skin dont get no thicker than that.

[DirtySouth]

Well since you edited yours, mine is too. Me and you will talk later Miss! ;-)

[TVSURFER]

Awww come on....are you serious?

This is an open forum. Everyone has the right to offend and defend as long as it doesn't get into personal information thrown about recklessly. The TS girls get on here weekly and talk about how bad guys are in the same light, so should we start booting yall off for that too? This is one of the only forums that men who enjoy TS can come and openly discuss their lifestyle & sexuality - the good and the bad.

If we decide we want to talk about how much TS piss us off - we have the right to.

If we decide we want to come on here and glorify a girl because she's pretty and can skeet a good cum shot on her video - we have the right to.

If we want to come here and talk about who we would wife up - we have the right to.

This is what a forum is for. Everyone isnt going to agree and some crowds are going to feel disrespected. I say develop some thick skin and learn to respect other's opinions even if they aren't suitable to you.
Bravo Dirty, bravo!
:cool:

[TVSURFER]

WTF are you talking about? Hell those are all my girls that I shot and I luv each and everyone of their asses - but what you're saying doesn't make sense.

Let's keep it in perspective. You never saw these girls until you saw them shooting a load on this site. All that is on here is nasty, dick-sucking, cum busting scenes so if a guy relates to that, why does he have self esteem issues? He's talking about the very reason why he's here. The very reason for the product that we push.

Like I said in a previous post, you are entitled to your opinion and to express it but this is PORN people. This is not URNOTALONE or Hung Angels. A guy shouldnt get bashed if he thinks nasty thoughts about tgirls on a PORN SITE.
Damn Dirty, I'm running out of accolades; Bravo, bravo and bravo!!!
:cool:

[vidman]

WTF are you talking about? Hell those are all my girls that I shot and I luv each and everyone of their asses - but what you're saying doesn't make sense.

Let's keep it in perspective. You never saw these girls until you saw them shooting a load on this site. All that is on here is nasty, dick-sucking, cum busting scenes so if a guy relates to that, why does he have self esteem issues? He's talking about the very reason why he's here. The very reason for the product that we push.

Like I said in a previous post, you are entitled to your opinion and to express it but this is PORN people. This is not URNOTALONE or Hung Angels. A guy shouldnt get bashed if he thinks nasty thoughts about tgirls on a PORN SITE.

No, what the ef are you talking about! Apparently, Mr. Dirty South, you didn't read the entire content of my dialogue with the other guy. Since you decided to interject half cocked, let me hip you to the entire conversation.

Our conversation was about guys who could or couldn't fall in love with transsexual women in the porn industry. My argument was that I could definitely be with an industry girl. He insisted on trying to call me stupid (in so many words) for feeling the way I felt. His point was that once I saw a film session in person, that my feelings would change. Once I saw a transsexual get cum shot in her mouth and down her throat, I wouldn't feel that way about her anymore.

I totally disagree. That wouldn't change my opinion of that particular girl, not at all. If I was attracted to her and if we had astounding chemistry and if we both truly loved each other, I could deal with it. This is truly the way I feel. I don't care if he, you or anyone else believes it or not. I know how I feel and that's all that matters to me. Now, in looking at the general concensus, most guys on here agree with me. There are a lot of other comments on here of guys who would still date a girl in the industry.

Oh yeah, I hate to burst your bubble Dirty, but most of these girls were shot before you were even introduced to the BTG team. I've been an admirer of transsexual women since about 1999. Did you even know any transsexuals then (sarcastically)? If I can recall, Steve shot most of these girls before you did. You do know Steve right? Yeah, he was shooting the southern girls prior to your arrival.

So, to clear up your misunderstanding....the discussion I had with the other gentleman was not about "if guys should say negative comments on this site about the girls in the industry." Our conversation had diverted to whether "a guy could fall in love with an industry transsexual." He says no a guy can't fall in love. I say yes he can.

I have no problem with what he says about any girl on this site, that's totally his opinion. Afterall, this is a porn site. Opinions, negative or positive, are formed here daily. But I have my views about the girls as well and as far as I'm concerned, they are all beautiful regardless of how much escorting, strolling, prostituting, body massages, etc, etc they do. If I'm in love with her, shit I'm in love.

[Ms Remy M]

eh, I hear what your saying Vidman. I read your argument when initially posted, and chose not to comment because yeah you can be in a relationship with a porn actress or escort. However; by your own argument, it being successful hinges on the fact that the two of you truly love each other. Real love takes time to develop, and if she's already in the adult industry and ya'll just hooking up, then you are having to deal with all that in your face sexual situations between her and her co-stars/clients without said benefit of having that "true love" developed yet. so I kind of have to agree, it's not as easy as it looks. Congrats, on feeling like you have the mental stability to deal with that kind of situation, but it's one thing to talk the talk, actually take that first step and gain some real world experince, there was too many "IF's" in your situation for me.

I do want to say that, some find a 'out of sight, out of mind' philosphy better. Just because she's a porn actress doesn't mean you have to be at her shoots, (I personally, almost always forbid BF from coming to a shoot, though I've allowed so once or twice). You might simply find comfort in trusting that she's remaining professional and taking care of business, but again, trust is earned, not handed out like paper cups.

Say what you want about the previous ATL photog and all the great finds he brought to the site. DS brings a much better product and level of style to the table. Just imagine how many more top notch shoots would be on this site, if it had been DS running the ATL all along instead of the 'other guy'.

[vidman]

eh, I hear what your saying Vidman. I read your argument when initially posted, and chose not to comment because yeah you can be in a relationship with a porn actress or escort. However; by your own argument, it being successful hinges on the fact that the two of you truly love each other. Real love takes time to develop, and if she's already in the adult industry and ya'll just hooking up, then you are having to deal with all that in your face sexual situations between her and her co-stars/clients without said benefit of having that "true love" developed yet. so I kind of have to agree, it's not as easy as it looks. Congrats, on feeling like you have the mental stability to deal with that kind of situation, but it's one thing to talk the talk, actually take that first step and gain some real world experince, there was too many "IF's" in your situation for me.

I do want to say that, some find a 'out of sight, out of mind' philosphy better. Just because she's a porn actress doesn't mean you have to be at her shoots, (I personally, almost always forbid BF from coming to a shoot, though I've allowed so once or twice). You might simply find comfort in trusting that she's remaining professional and taking care of business, but again, trust is earned, not handed out like paper cups.

Say what you want about the previous ATL photog and all the great finds he brought to the site. DS brings a much better product and level of style to the table. Just imagine how many more top notch shoots would be on this site, if it had been DS running the ATL all along instead of the 'other guy'.


Remy, I feel what you're saying. The only catch to my story is that I've been in a relationship with a girl in the industry before and I didn't have a problem with it. The only thing that got in our way was the 900 miles that lay between us. Other than that, I was okay with it. I knew that she was "working" to make money but her feelings resided with me. That was all the comfort I needed to carry on. I know it sounds funny to someone listening to my dilemma and thinking that "if he can put up with the girl being in the industry, then he should have been very well capable of swinging a long distance relationship." Distance didn't bring about trust issues. The distance brought about frustrations because we couldn't see each other when we wanted to. I stand 100% convicted in my beliefs. I can absolutely date a TS girl in the porn industry. Yes, I most certainly could. If we have vowed and demonstrated a true love for each other, I'm totally secure.

DirtySouth does EXCELLENT work! No doubt about it!! I give him the ultimate credit. I was only chastising him because he came in on the tail end of the conversation without knowing exactly who said what and what the entire debate was about.

Yeah, I keep in touch with tons of TS girls and quite a few of them told me the horror stories about "the other guy." I'm glad to have DS on the BTG Team. I'm actually quite jealous of him. What better profession to have!! Taking pictures of beautiful transsexuals all day, seeing them get naked and freaky and getting paid to do it!!! I'm green with envy. lol.

[DirtySouth]

I totally disagree. That wouldn't change my opinion of that particular girl, not at all. If I was attracted to her and if we had astounding chemistry and if we both truly loved each other, I could deal with it. This is truly the way I feel. I don't care if he, you or anyone else believes it or not. I know how I feel and that's all that matters to me. Now, in looking at the general concensus, most guys on here agree with me. There are a lot of other comments on here of guys who would still date a girl in the industry.


Well hey, if you're into sharing your girl with everyone with the cash to buy her time, I cant hate you for that.



Oh yeah, I hate to burst your bubble Dirty, but most of these girls were shot before you were even introduced to the BTG team. I've been an admirer of transsexual women since about 1999. Did you even know any transsexuals then (sarcastically)? If I can recall, Steve shot most of these girls before you did. You do know Steve right? Yeah, he was shooting the southern girls prior to your arrival.



I hate to burst YOUR bubble since you didnt do your homework homey. I've been at it since 1998. So the question is when I was at it, did YOU know any transsexual women? Yeah I know someone was shooting the girls prior to my arrival but did you stop to ask yourself why I'm here and he's not? How is that even a valid point? George Gervin was playing ball way before Kobe Bryant, who do people remember more?

It's just a forum bro. No one is attacking your personally. If thats your thing, thats your thing. We all been there.

[vidman]

Well hey, if you're into sharing your girl with everyone with the cash to buy her time, I cant hate you for that.



I hate to burst YOUR bubble since you didnt do your homework homey. I've been at it since 1998. So the question is when I was at it, did YOU know any transsexual women? Yeah I know someone was shooting the girls prior to my arrival but did you stop to ask yourself why I'm here and he's not? How is that even a valid point? George Gervin was playing ball way before Kobe Bryant, who do people remember more?

It's just a forum bro. No one is attacking your personally. If thats your thing, thats your thing. We all been there.

George who? LOL. Just kidding Dirty. You cool with me dude. I admire your work man. You do an excellent job. I'm not questioning your professional prowess one iota. All I can say is I wish I was your co-worker. Help me out Dirty. I know tons of girls from all over. I've seen guys request lots of girls that I know personally. I would love to be a photog. I saw the ad that Seanchai sent out requesting photographers. The reason I didn't respond is because he referenced the Canada area. I don't know any girls up that way, but I know them from coast to coast, within the U.S. Put a word in for me.

[DirtySouth]

George who? LOL. Just kidding Dirty. You cool with me dude. I admire your work man. You do an excellent job. I'm not questioning your professional prowess one iota. All I can say is I wish I was your co-worker. Help me out Dirty. I know tons of girls from all over. I've seen guys request lots of girls that I know personally. I would love to be a photog. I saw the ad that Seanchai sent out requesting photographers. The reason I didn't respond is because he referenced the Canada area. I don't know any girls up that way, but I know them from coast to coast, within the U.S. Put a word in for me.

Where do you reside now?

[TsVanessa69]

eh, I hear what your saying Vidman. I read your argument when initially posted, and chose not to comment because yeah you can be in a relationship with a porn actress or escort. However; by your own argument, it being successful hinges on the fact that the two of you truly love each other. Real love takes time to develop, and if she's already in the adult industry and ya'll just hooking up, then you are having to deal with all that in your face sexual situations between her and her co-stars/clients without said benefit of having that "true love" developed yet. so I kind of have to agree, it's not as easy as it looks. Congrats, on feeling like you have the mental stability to deal with that kind of situation, but it's one thing to talk the talk, actually take that first step and gain some real world experince, there was too many "IF's" in your situation for me.

I do want to say that, some find a 'out of sight, out of mind' philosphy better. Just because she's a porn actress doesn't mean you have to be at her shoots, (I personally, almost always forbid BF from coming to a shoot, though I've allowed so once or twice). You might simply find comfort in trusting that she's remaining professional and taking care of business, but again, trust is earned, not handed out like paper cups.

Say what you want about the previous ATL photog and all the great finds he brought to the site. DS brings a much better product and level of style to the table. Just imagine how many more top notch shoots would be on this site, if it had been DS running the ATL all along instead of the 'other guy'.

May I say back off my baby DS!
I LOVED working with him and I love my photo's.
His work speaks for it self, and I most definatly am not embarrassed to show off this shoot.
Clearly a step above others, and his personality won me over after the first 5 minutes.
Clearly my best shoot to date!

[DirtySouth]

May I say back off my baby DS!
I LOVED working with him and I love my photo's.
His work speaks for it self, and I most definatly am not embarrassed to show off this shoot.
Clearly a step above others, and his personality won me over after the first 5 minutes.
Clearly my best shoot to date!


Thanks V ;-) You're certainly one of my favorite models - great personality.

[vidman]

Where do you reside now?

Dirty, I currently reside in Atlanta. I know that you are handling this area, but I would definitely be willing to travel to other places just for the opportunity to shoot for BTG. Or maybe, since there is such an abundance of girls here in the Georgia, Florida, Carolina area, I could help you cover the territory. I'm willing to get in where I fit in.

Hey, thanks for responding man. Much appreciated.