Dating A T Girl

[jaysands]

Fellas: have any of you ever dated a T-Girl on the regular? Not one that u had to pay when u hooked up, but one u actually kicked it with, hung out, and had some tpye of consistent non-financial relationship...I've always wished, u could meet T-girls in regular places, beyond the stroll or some gay club...Almost like a bar for just T-girls and the men who adore them...:)

[iketurner]

I think you chasing a ghost because the overhead to maintain the beauty is high and the means to get this money is dating, porn etc (80/20 rule). So unless you can afford to maintain her lifestyle, or if she is a Top Stylist. Nurse, Her own job (20%). You will be coming out your pocket heavy in relationship.

I think tricking is underrated you pay for service but in reality you pay her to leave. Think about it---------

[twowaybro]

Been there, done that. Not hard at all if u have interests in common and are willing to put her on a pedestal. Undivided attention. What makes it difficult though is if one still has a strong taste/desire for the punanny and tends to want to seek out and run back to the genetic sistas. Most t-girls can't/wont understand. Ain't having it. The start of major grief. To which, can you really blame them. Commitment is the key. This has been my experience.

[kilakali]

Fellas: have any of you ever dated a T-Girl on the regular? Not one that u had to pay when u hooked up, but one u actually kicked it with, hung out, and had some tpye of consistent non-financial relationship...I've always wished, u could meet T-girls in regular places, beyond the stroll or some gay club...Almost like a bar for just T-girls and the men who adore them...:)

I never paid to play I go about the old fashion way of friends first whatever happens happens. My method works for me i have met so many tgirls that way once you get past the "tranny chaser" or " all men are tricks" label im in. I have treated and been treated by tgirls for dinner/show etc. I also have been with a couple of long lasting relationships with them as well. It can work just as in any other type of relationship communication and trust is the key.

I dont know where you are from but i meet the girls at "regular places" like the gym or at Mcdonalds. Im in Cali so you see them pretty much everywhere you go. We have Tgirl bars out here but they are more pickup places for pay to play.

[peggygee]

There are many, many regular transwomen living the same lives and
engaged in the same occupations as their natal counterparts.

It's all a matter of where you look, if you are only aware of transwomen
on porn sites, or in tranny and gay bars, then you will meet a disproportionate
amount of working girls.

Go to a casino, you will meet gamblers, go to a school you will meet students,
if you are in jail, you will be surrounded by criminals, in church you will be
amongst congregants, and so and, and so forth.

:)

[TsVanessa69]

I think you chasing a ghost because the overhead to maintain the beauty is high and the means to get this money is dating, porn etc (80/20 rule). So unless you can afford to maintain her lifestyle, or if she is a Top Stylist. Nurse, Her own job (20%). You will be coming out your pocket heavy in relationship.

I think tricking is underrated you pay for service but in reality you pay her to leave. Think about it---------

This is some BULLSHIT!
My man is NEVER a trick!
I date and I work
the 2 dont mix.
The man I date gives me love and cuddles with me, goes out to eat or the movies with me.
I'm a bitch who has her own, my own crib, my own money, some of you bitches speak and don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

[TsVanessa69]

I never paid to play I go about the old fashion way of friends first whatever happens happens. My method works for me i have met so many tgirls that way once you get past the "tranny chaser" or " all men are tricks" label im in. I have treated and been treated by tgirls for dinner/show etc. I also have been with a couple of long lasting relationships with them as well. It can work just as in any other type of relationship communication and trust is the key.

I dont know where you are from but i meet the girls at "regular places" like the gym or at Mcdonalds. Im in Cali so you see them pretty much everywhere you go. We have Tgirl bars out here but they are more pickup places for pay to play.

We need more men like you!
I don't deal with tranny chasers or triks tryna skip on paying.
I like men like you who deal in REAL time!
I dont see any man as a trick until he acts like one.
Tranny chasers are tricks.
Men I date don't EVVERR refrer to me as a tgirl or bullshit like that.
Then again I date straight men who like pussy and ts who are dimes!

[TsVanessa69]

Been there, done that. Not hard at all if u have interests in common and are willing to put her on a pedestal. Undivided attention. What makes it difficult though is if one still has a strong taste/desire for the punanny and tends to want to seek out and run back to the genetic sistas. Most t-girls can't/wont understand. Ain't having it. The start of major grief. To which, can you really blame them. Commitment is the key. This has been my experience.
WELL SAID! But not so much that its pussy, cuz I'm on the same level as pussy and sometimes a step above.
Just like men into me as I will be into you.
We are normal chicks outside work
I am ts for the money.
Real time, I'm a woman.
Its rare to find a man strong enough to comprehend. Glad there are a couple on here!

[DirtySouth]

WELL SAID! But not so much that its pussy, cuz I'm on the same level as pussy and sometimes a step above.
Just like men into me as I will be into you.
We are normal chicks outside work
I am ts for the money.
Real time, I'm a woman.
Its rare to find a man strong enough to comprehend. Glad there are a couple on here!

I agree and disagree with you V.

I do admit that I agree along with you concerning what twowaybro said. All of us have done that...but thats just because we all have liked pussy before TS. I don't think a man thats attracted to TS, is NOT attracted to pussy.

I think its rare to find that type of guy because of exactly what you said - "We are normal chicks outside work" . You have to understand - the average, working female is a normal chick regardless if she is working or not.

I do agree though, a lot of girls out there are VERY nice girls outside of the industry, but their choice to be an escort is what will draw away certain types of men and bring others. A lot of girls dont have an exit plan to get out of the escorting.

What drives you to say "I'm on the same level as pussy and sometimes a step above"? A lot of TS say that lately, I'd like some insight on that.

[TsVanessa69]

I agree and disagree with you V.

I do admit that I agree along with you concerning what twowaybro said. All of us have done that...but thats just because we all have liked pussy before TS. I don't think a man thats attracted to TS, is NOT attracted to pussy.

I think its rare to find that type of guy because of exactly what you said - "We are normal chicks outside work" . You have to understand - the average, working female is a normal chick regardless if she is working or not.

I do agree though, a lot of girls out there are VERY nice girls outside of the industry, but their choice to be an escort is what will draw away certain types of men and bring others. A lot of girls dont have an exit plan to get out of the escorting.

What drives you to say "I'm on the same level as pussy and sometimes a step above"? A lot of TS say that lately, I'd like some insight on that.

I see where you coming from sexy.

But yes, I am on the same level as pussy and yes sometimes I am a step above.
There is nothing a female has that I don't but a vagina.
And even guys not into dick are running to me from females.
They tell me I turned femininity up a notch and that females forgot how to be woman, so now these guys are turning to transexuals to escape females

[bigdicki]

I see where you coming from sexy.

But yes, I am on the same level as pussy and yes sometimes I am a step above.
There is nothing a female has that I don't but a vagina.
And even guys not into dick are running to me from females.
They tell me I turned femininity up a notch and that females forgot how to be woman, so now these guys are turning to transexuals to escape females

I believe that. A lot of dudes complain about the lack of femininity in females nowadays. I've noticed it for sure. I'm definitely most attracted to females or tgirls when they seem slight (in physical stature), a bit vulnerable, CAN COOK and are willing to "submit" to me as a man.

[peggygee]

I believe that. A lot of dudes complain about the lack of femininity in females nowadays. I've noticed it for sure. I'm definitely most attracted to females or tgirls when they seem :pslight (in physical stature), a bit vulnerable, CAN COOK and are willing to "submit" to me as a man.

The only criteria on that list that I fit is that I can cook.

Other than that, I am a tall (5' 10") independent, strong, Black woman.

Don't do the hyper - sexual, hyper - feminine, Barbie doll, Jessica Rabbit,
mini-skirted, stockings, and fuck me pumps everyday.

I'm more a lady in the street, freak in the sheets type. :p

[peggygee]

The only criteria on that list that I fit is that I can cook.



And willl cook naked, unless it involves fried foods.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CId289lYIdc/Sh1WHvmL3KI/AAAAAAAADTE/GI8Glc6ysDk/s400/nude_cooking.jpg

;)

[anonymoussonny]

Even though this may be considered a 'porn' site this topic's exchange of ideas is what I seek for longingly and brings me back to this site regularly. I appreciate all of you who post here, because this is the seldom seen 'intelligent conversation'.

As a man who is seeking relationship information and attempting to avoid the 'Chaser' tag, its this type of discourse which leads me to believe my type of woman IS out there...

Come to Daddy!!!

[phi0820]

Even though this may be considered a 'porn' site this topic's exchange of ideas is what I seek for longingly and brings me back to this site regularly. I appreciate all of you who post here, because this is the seldom seen 'intelligent conversation'.

Co-sign. Don't post often, but really compared to some other spots I've seen, this forum is a breath of fresh air.

[qcutta]

And willl cook naked, unless it involves fried foods.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CId289lYIdc/Sh1WHvmL3KI/AAAAAAAADTE/GI8Glc6ysDk/s400/nude_cooking.jpg

;)

This quote FTW!

And yea, I've dated a few t-girls (Why is that offensive? It sounds better than 'Tranny', IMO), but like the other poster said, a lot of them won't like the fact if you also like to fuck/date other g-girls on the side. I dunno, I like to have my cake and eat it too, I guess!:p

I like them tall/amazon types, so you should post a pic sometime!

[jaysands]

Here's my main issue...The only time I meet a Tgirl, its always of the escort variety, I so wish I could meet them in regular places, doing regular things, but that's just not the way it is...Hence, why I started this thread, I wanted to see if others might have felt the same way...I live in Atlanta, and like Dirty said once before, the T-Girl scene here---- and the gay scene, is one in the same...The only way to really meet a Tgirl on the real, is to maybe go to a gay club, and i'm just not feeling that...

I like T-girls because of their femininty, and their desire to be sexy, like women, I aint trying to have to go through gay dudes to get to them...We dont have parties here (none that I know of), where its just T girls and real dudes trying to get with them, not each other..To me, that's the answer, if we had more of those poppin, it would be good for us guys that really want to be with u girls, and good for the girls too, because they would get to meet, socialize, and hangout with good fellas, without the pressure of thinking its all about sex....i

[kilakali]

Here's my main issue...The only time I meet a Tgirl, its always of the escort variety, I so wish I could meet them in regular places, doing regular things, but that's just not the way it is...Hence, why I started this thread, I wanted to see if others might have felt the same way...I live in Atlanta, and like Dirty said once before, the T-Girl scene here---- and the gay scene, is one in the same...The only way to really meet a Tgirl on the real, is to maybe go to a gay club, and i'm just not feeling that...

I like T-girls because of their femininty, and their desire to be sexy, like women, I aint trying to have to go through gay dudes to get to them...We dont have parties here (none that I know of), where its just T girls and real dudes trying to get with them, not each other..To me, that's the answer, if we had more of those poppin, it would be good for us guys that really want to be with u girls, and good for the girls too, because they would get to meet, socialize, and hangout with good fellas, without the pressure of thinking its all about sex....i

So you are saying the T girls dont go to straight clubs? Most of the girls i know only go to straight clubs. At least for the most part the more "passable", more confident girls are at the "hot spot" straight clubs.
I remember last time I was in Atlanta about a year ago ( business trip). I was in a hotel in a "gay" area ( South Peachtree St I believe). I met a couple of Tgirls while I was on the Marta on my way to the underground mall. What im trying to say if you go to the populated areas not clubs im sure you will meet some.

[andwar]

I have dated TS's.My ex was a TS,She's an RN ,and makes real good money,and after her rent,and bills,the rest went to keeping up her High maintanance lifestyle.She was into the TS Pageants,and actually she won a couple years ago,but everything she did was based on trying to compete with the other TS's and thats what broke us up.(In my experience) it's a lil harder to date BTG's then srtaight women because they're guard is up extremely higher, becuase of insecurity of what society thinks about them ect...

[peggygee]

This quote FTW!

And yea, I've dated a few t-girls (Why is that offensive? It sounds better than 'Tranny', IMO), but like the other poster said, a lot of them won't like the fact if you also like to fuck/date other g-girls on the side. I dunno, I like to have my cake and eat it too, I guess!:p

I like them tall/amazon types, so you should post a pic sometime!



See that's why a post op might be the "best of all world's".

You get's the poonany, and a woman that may be willing to do anal.

:cool:

[peggygee]

So you are saying the T girls dont go to straight clubs? Most of the girls i know only go to straight clubs. At least for the most part the more "passable", more confident girls are at the "hot spot" straight clubs.
I remember last time I was in Atlanta about a year ago ( business trip). I was in a hotel in a "gay" area ( South Peachtree St I believe). I met a couple of Tgirls while I was on the Marta on my way to the underground mall. What im trying to say if you go to the populated areas not clubs im sure you will meet some.

I am most def going to agree with you on this.

Why would a woman go to a gay club?

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/club.jpg

The men there are looking for other men.

You might meet a drag queen, transvestite, or cross dresser, but no
decent looking woman is going to be caught dead in a gay bar.

[peggygee]

I have dated TS's.My ex was a TS,She's an RN ,and makes real good money,and after her rent,and bills,the rest went to keeping up her High maintanance lifestyle.She was into the TS Pageants,and actually she won a couple years ago,but everything she did was based on trying to compete with the other TS's and thats what broke us up.(In my experience) it's a lil harder to date BTG's then srtaight women because they're guard is up extremely higher, becuase of insecurity of what society thinks about them ect...

I think it may vary from woman to woman, and where she is at in life.

Some girls are still in "the life", are caught up in the scene, and may
actually be fearful of the real world.

And that's a rough position to be in, at some point a woman needs to
decide if she's going to be a tranny all her life, or be a woman.

When you were a tranny, you talked like a tranny, you thought like
a tranny, you reasoned like a tranny. When you became a woman,
you put tranny ways behind you.

[kilakali]

We need more men like you!
I don't deal with tranny chasers or triks tryna skip on paying.
I like men like you who deal in REAL time!
I dont see any man as a trick until he acts like one.
Tranny chasers are tricks.
Men I date don't EVVERR refrer to me as a tgirl or bullshit like that.
Then again I date straight men who like pussy and ts who are dimes!

Thanks...I hear that quite often from girls. I think guys like me are a dying breed either that or they are hiding. The thing i find amusing is when i hang out with some tgirls they think im expecting something when its all over. When that doesnt happen, they realize hey he is a cool guy not wanting me for sex. Few days later they call and ask me out all expenses paid. Next thing i know im "chillin" with them at there place. 9 times out of 10 this is how true friendships develop, and sometimes "deeper" relationships emerge.

Im a very social person the kind that can hang around any group surfers, bikers, skaters, to politicians, celebs, and not be bothered on what people say. Just like tgirls/gg itreat them like i treat everyone else and thats with respect.

[jaysands]

So you are saying the T girls dont go to straight clubs? Most of the girls i know only go to straight clubs. At least for the most part the more "passable", more confident girls are at the "hot spot" straight clubs.
I remember last time I was in Atlanta about a year ago ( business trip). I was in a hotel in a "gay" area ( South Peachtree St I believe). I met a couple of Tgirls while I was on the Marta on my way to the underground mall. What im trying to say if you go to the populated areas not clubs im sure you will meet some.

Dude, I've been in Atlanta all my life, lived a few other places, but mainly here...Ive been to hundreds if not thousands of staright clubs in this city, some that arent even around anymore, and I have only seen a T-girl in a straight club once or twice..Not disagreeing with u, I'm sure they go, but I just haven't had any succsess there...

[peggygee]

Dude, I've been in Atlanta all my life, lived a few other places, but mainly here...Ive been to hundreds if not thousands of staright clubs in this city, some that arent even around anymore,

and I have only seen a T-girl in a straight club once or twice..Not disagreeing with u, I'm sure they go, but I just haven't had any succsess there...

That's cause they're passing, boo. :D

[jaysands]

That's cause they're passing, boo. :D

Good point Peggy...I like u!!!!! :)

[peggygee]

Good point Peggy...I like u!!!!! :)

Aww, thanks, you're a sweetie too. ;)

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/blush3x3.jpg

[DirtySouth]

I see where you coming from sexy.

But yes, I am on the same level as pussy and yes sometimes I am a step above.
There is nothing a female has that I don't but a vagina.
And even guys not into dick are running to me from females.
They tell me I turned femininity up a notch and that females forgot how to be woman, so now these guys are turning to transexuals to escape females

True but you have to factor in the un-admitted evidence. You have to beware of someone running GAME on you. That sounds like shit you say to get draws. If that was true, we'd see more LTR oriented on the TS/Male scene.

A female has plenty on a TS. A male has plenty on a F2M TS.....but, it's actually totally dependent on what you want out of life from your target preference.

A lot of guys turn to transsexuals from rejection from the type of women they want. They can usually find similarities of the type of woman they prefer in a TS. I think we can agree its hard to get a top-knotch, big titty, perfect body GG in the real world. You may have to work for it. It's relatively easy to get the counterpart on the TS side. I'm not saying ALL ts are bimbos - I'm saying that most guys here can admit that some of the TS they have dated look better than the females they have. True?

A lot of guys turn to transsexuals because plain & simple - the sex is 10 times easier to get w/ less commitment. Also the sex is usually more intense depending on your preference. i.e. oral sex from a TS is 9/10 better than most females. Of course a male would know his way around another male's body better than most females.

Picture it like Allen Iverson on free agency. Those guys may run from female to TS but it seems as soon as the team wants 'em back, their ready to sign the contract.

A lot of guys would not admit this of course, but the facts are there. Most guys that I known that dabbled in the TS community state these as their reasons.

[bigdicki]

True but you have to factor in the un-admitted evidence. You have to beware of someone running GAME on you. That sounds like shit you say to get draws. If that was true, we'd see more LTR oriented on the TS/Male scene.

A female has plenty on a TS. A male has plenty on a F2M TS.....but, it's actually totally dependent on what you want out of life from your target preference.

A lot of guys turn to transsexuals from rejection from the type of women they want. They can usually find similarities of the type of woman they prefer in a TS. I think we can agree its hard to get a top-knotch, big titty, perfect body GG in the real world. You may have to work for it. It's relatively easy to get the counterpart on the TS side. I'm not saying ALL ts are bimbos - I'm saying that most guys here can admit that some of the TS they have dated look better than the females they have. True?

A lot of guys turn to transsexuals because plain & simple - the sex is 10 times easier to get w/ less commitment. Also the sex is usually more intense depending on your preference. i.e. oral sex from a TS is 9/10 better than most females. Of course a male would know his way around another male's body better than most females.

Picture it like Allen Iverson on free agency. Those guys may run from female to TS but it seems as soon as the team wants 'em back, their ready to sign the contract.

A lot of guys would not admit this of course, but the facts are there. Most guys that I known that dabbled in the TS community state these as their reasons.

I am against generalisations... generally ;), so when I saw "A lot of guys turn to transsexuals because plain & simple - the sex is 10 times easier to get w/ less commitment. Also the sex is usually more intense depending on your preference. i.e. oral sex from a TS is 9/10 better than most females" I had to speak on it. I think there is no difference in the easiness to get sex and as far as head, my personal experience is that 3 girls I have had beat ANY ts by a mile. That's not saying girls are better, but what I am saying is that it depends on the girl/t-girl. And on the promiscuity issue, hell, A LOT of gg's will give up that pussy for money or even the "promise" of money. The only thing I would say about t-girls is that its obviously a hell of a lot easier getting anal from them ;) :p.

[Mista_Q]

Been with same lady for almost five years!
Love her to death.
She has her own job/money. I do spend $ on her but what girl genetic or TS doesn't like her man to pamper her?

[DirtySouth]

I am against generalisations... generally ;), so when I saw "A lot of guys turn to transsexuals because plain & simple - the sex is 10 times easier to get w/ less commitment. Also the sex is usually more intense depending on your preference. i.e. oral sex from a TS is 9/10 better than most females" I had to speak on it. I think there is no difference in the easiness to get sex and as far as head, my personal experience is that 3 girls I have had beat ANY ts by a mile. That's not saying girls are better, but what I am saying is that it depends on the girl/t-girl. And on the promiscuity issue, hell, A LOT of gg's will give up that pussy for money or even the "promise" of money. The only thing I would say about t-girls is that its obviously a hell of a lot easier getting anal from them ;) :p.

Like I said before, that is from the personal experience of all of the males I've ever associated with in this circle. I don't expect everyone to agree with me but I would think that a lot of guys would co-sign.

It's true that GG's will give up the pussy for money or promise of money or less. What I was saying is that a lot of TS (not all) give it up for less than that - without the promise of money or commitment. Just for the love of sex. I guess you could say I'm thinking on a per ratio basis. Anyway you work around it, there are still some male brain patterns/instincts in their heads and males are known to be less emotionally attached to sex than females are. That's what makes the sexual hookups easier IMO and that's what keeps us foaming at the mouth for every update on the site lol

[peggygee]

Like I said before, that is from the personal experience of all of the males I've ever associated with in this circle. I don't expect everyone to agree with me but I would think that a lot of guys would co-sign.

It's true that GG's will give up the pussy for money or promise of money or less. What I was saying is that a lot of TS (not all) give it up for less than that - without the promise of money or commitment. Just for the love of sex. I guess you could say I'm thinking on a per ratio basis. Anyway you work around it, there are still some male brain patterns/instincts in their heads and males are known to be less emotionally attached to sex than females are. That's what makes the sexual hookups easier IMO and that's what keeps us foaming at the mouth for every update on the site lol

When I was "young, dumb, and full of cum", pre HRT, pre orchiechtomy, and
pre GRS, I was hot to trot, like you outlined.

Now, I have the endocrine system of a menopausal woman, and a man has to
"work" for the poonany. ;)

[DirtySouth]

When I was "young, dumb, and full of cum", pre HRT, pre orchiechtomy, and
pre GRS, I was hot to trot, like you outlined.

Now, I have the endocrine system of a menopausal woman, and a man has to
"work" for the poonany. ;)

Thanks for acknowledging that. Age/maturity is a big factor in the whole equation.

[peggygee]

Thanks for acknowledging that. Age/maturity is a big factor in the whole equation.

Age, maturity, and to a certain extent the amount of testosterone
that a person, male or female has coursing through their bodies.

As we are aware testosterone can even play a role in the sex drive
of natal females, not just trans females. (http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1R2ASUS_enUS342&q=testosterone+%2B+female+sex+drive&aq=f&oq=&aqi=)

[DYNACORD]

My Turn!
There are a number of opinions here in this thread. Some I like, some I don't agree with.
I've always loved GG's and TS Girls. I've never needed to seek a TS because I was rejected by a GG or couldn't get sex from a GG. Each type has ist's own "mating dance". One a little longer than the other. Each type also has it's own special body parts. I happen to like both types. That's what makes them both special. If the TS girl didn't have that swinging appendage, then I would be looking only at a GG. Granted the TS ladies have a certain swagger and sex appeal, but for me, that's not enough to stop chasing a skirt around town. I currently have a TS Lover and don't plan on changing that for as long as it lasts. It's what I'm into at this time. That does not mean GG's are not on the same level of sex appeal or love making as a TS.

PS. They both drive me out of my mind:::or drive me crazy. Not sure which.

[DrDickenstein]

My Turn!
There are a number of opinions here in this thread. Some I like, some I don't agree with.
I've always loved GG's and TS Girls. I've never needed to seek a TS because I was rejected by a GG or couldn't get sex from a GG. Each type has ist's own "mating dance". One a little longer than the other. Each type also has it's own special body parts. I happen to like both types. That's what makes them both special. If the TS girl didn't have that swinging appendage, then I would be looking only at a GG. Granted the TS ladies have a certain swagger and sex appeal, but for me, that's not enough to stop chasing a skirt around town. I currently have a TS Lover and don't plan on changing that for as long as it lasts. It's what I'm into at this time. That does not mean GG's are not on the same level of sex appeal or love making as a TS.

PS. They both drive me out of my mind:::or drive me crazy. Not sure which.

Yah what he said. Good shit Dyna!! I'm gettin twisted y'all....ya boy's birfday bout to be in bed by lebbum (11). See if I can wake it up for a 4AM roll thru the stroll. Holla

[DirtySouth]

My Turn!
There are a number of opinions here in this thread. Some I like, some I don't agree with.
I've always loved GG's and TS Girls. I've never needed to seek a TS because I was rejected by a GG or couldn't get sex from a GG. Each type has ist's own "mating dance". One a little longer than the other. Each type also has it's own special body parts. I happen to like both types. That's what makes them both special. If the TS girl didn't have that swinging appendage, then I would be looking only at a GG. Granted the TS ladies have a certain swagger and sex appeal, but for me, that's not enough to stop chasing a skirt around town. I currently have a TS Lover and don't plan on changing that for as long as it lasts. It's what I'm into at this time. That does not mean GG's are not on the same level of sex appeal or love making as a TS.

PS. They both drive me out of my mind:::or drive me crazy. Not sure which.

Indeed a good point of course my generalization was just that. It wasn't meant to cover every one's own experience. I think your opinion still falls in line with what I said though in some regards.

[babyjesus]

My Turn!
There are a number of opinions here in this thread. Some I like, some I don't agree with.
I've always loved GG's and TS Girls. I've never needed to seek a TS because I was rejected by a GG or couldn't get sex from a GG. Each type has ist's own "mating dance". One a little longer than the other. Each type also has it's own special body parts. I happen to like both types. That's what makes them both special. If the TS girl didn't have that swinging appendage, then I would be looking only at a GG. Granted the TS ladies have a certain swagger and sex appeal, but for me, that's not enough to stop chasing a skirt around town. I currently have a TS Lover and don't plan on changing that for as long as it lasts. It's what I'm into at this time. That does not mean GG's are not on the same level of sex appeal or love making as a TS.

PS. They both drive me out of my mind:::or drive me crazy. Not sure which.

you hit the nail right on the head..those are my feelings exactly!