Who calls at 2:30 am ?

[MrF]

Who calls at 2:30 am ? Some TG I know. That's why I leave my cell at work in vibrate mode. Yesterday she called 5 times at night while I was out of the office, including twice around 2:30 am !! Was it an emergency ? No. Just wanted to hook up. Geez ... :rolleyes:

This sort of thing has happened to me several times.

Once, a few years ago, I was called at 09:00. She needed money to do her hair. I got to see her "early morning" non-glamorous look. I'm a pushover, I guess.:)

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[Ms Remy M]

Who calls at 2:30 am ? Some TG I know. That's why I leave my cell at work in vibrate mode. Yesterday she called 5 times at night while I was out of the office, including twice around 2:30 am !! Was it an emergency ? No. Just wanted to hook up. Geez ... :rolleyes:

This sort of thing has happened to me several times.

Once, a few years ago, I was called at 09:00. She needed money to do her hair. I got to see her "early morning" non-glamorous look. I'm a pushover, I guess.:)

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LOL if they are calling all hours then they might need the cash bad. I always see it as a bad sign on the escort part when they are calling the client instead of vice versa. It's ok if they are from out of state and are letting you know they are in town, but a local escort doing so is a no-no. BTW are they on the site already? Maybe she can make some dough doing a shoot.

[DirtySouth]

Naw fuck that! I got a call from a girl at 1AM last night. Luckily, I (and my girlfriend) was already asleep so it was no huge deal but the principles still remain. I have cursed out many a tgirl for pulling that. Its uncalled for.

Most tgirls I know sleep all day and roam at night. So they naturally think anyone that is a part of their community, admirer or business man, is automatically on their schedule. So if you call them at say....10AM, no answer. You may get cussed out or some weird looks. Then you look up and you're getting calls at 2am and something is wrong with YOU if you don't pick up.

Not every girl does this, but obviously enough to bring about a new thread on it!!! Call her ass back at 8AM is what I say.

[ROC]

SHY(SHYANA) CALLS ME ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S ALWAYS IN THE EARLY MOURN TIME ZONE.... WHAT THE HELL BRO. T-GIRLS ONLY SOCIALIZE AFTER MIDNIGHT......LOL MOMMIE CAN CALL ME WHENEVER SHE WANTS, LOOK AT THE BODY ON THIS GIRL.... :eek:

[MrF]

Yeah, if they're hot enough they can call whenever they want :). Anyway, it's no big deal since I leave my "contact" phone at work, usually turned off -- but then they sometimes send voicemail or text msg -- I must be charming, huh ?

Heck, I even got 2 text msgs from (2 different) BTGs on Christmas one year. They must have been together and feeling some loneliness. I sent warm greetings.

But I've learned awhile back how to protect myself.

Remy, it was nobody on this site, nor anyone we've discussed. You probably know her, though. You know everyone, right ? I guess she'd be too disorganized or possibly too camera-shy to do a shoot.

[TVSURFER]

For all you fellas that don’t know, well here it is: There is red pill time and there is blue time! :rolleyes:
Your time (red pill) is: when you are horny, super horny, half-ass drunk or drunk, when your inhibitions are very low and you want some freaky sex! In those moments, you make the infamous ‘booty call’! This is, mind you, between the hours of 2:30 am to sunrise. If you are a gamer, which most of you are, you have about two to four girls you can call at those times. The average is one out of four that you might get lucky! That’s your time (the real world)! ;)
(I have concocted a pay tier which is worth MY time to answer those types of phone calls. PM me and I’ll describe it to you) :D
T-girl time (blue pill) is: They need money, period! At that point they don’t care what time they call you! They need money! If they missed your call at 10:00 pm, by 2:30 am to sunrise, they are going to call you! They don’t care what you are doing, who you are with, they’ll always give you the line, “I was just thinking about you!” Yeah, right: They just need money (fantasy world)!
All of this happens because you exchange numbers with a girl. There’s nothing wrong with the gesture, but there are consequences when you do that; your time is nothing compared to theirs! Which is why, your phone is overheated when they want what they want, money! Even at 2:30 am you are not the STUD you think you are! They want money!
Have you ever called a girl on YOUR time of need (when your nuts are about to explode), she picks up, most times it’s the answering service, but tells you she’ll call you back? Well buddy, you are on her time, t-girl time! And, guess what time she’ll call you back? You got it, after sunrise!
Ask the photogs how prompt they are when it comes to doing a shoot? This is not an admonishment, by no means; it is just a red pill or blue pill moment! Most of those girls work on t-girl time, which is blue pill time!
This is why I handle t-girls with kid-gloves and keep them at arms length. I’ve cussed a number of them out based on their blue pill behavior, but it doesn’t matter because they are on blue pill time and they won’t change! By change I mean, be respectful of the real world! They want that paper!
I know a great deal of girls here in Detroit and I treat them the same. I’ve tried to get them on red pill mode, but they end up going back to blue pill world and so I have to respectfully stay consistent in our relations.
Please note however, I don’t make these statements off the top my head, I’ve experienced them, and so I’m telling you things that have happened to me. I surmise though, all t-girls are not like what I’ve described, but a high percentage has these traits! :cool:

[Ms Remy M]

Are you ready to go down the rabbit hole, Neo? LOL :cool:

[MrF]

Great stuff, TVSURFER - like a jazz riff.

I love to construct theories about TGirls and what motivates them, but they are an elusive mystery. It's part of what I love about them. That, together with the high sex drive and the frequent sense of alienation from society which I share to some degree. It's difficult to make generalizations, however.

[DirtySouth]

For all you fellas that don’t know, well here it is: There is red pill time and there is blue time! :rolleyes:
Your time (red pill) is: when you are horny, super horny, half-ass drunk or drunk, when your inhibitions are very low and you want some freaky sex! In those moments, you make the infamous ‘booty call’! This is, mind you, between the hours of 2:30 am to sunrise. If you are a gamer, which most of you are, you have about two to four girls you can call at those times. The average is one out of four that you might get lucky! That’s your time (the real world)! ;)
(I have concocted a pay tier which is worth MY time to answer those types of phone calls. PM me and I’ll describe it to you) :D
T-girl time (blue pill) is: They need money, period! At that point they don’t care what time they call you! They need money! If they missed your call at 10:00 pm, by 2:30 am to sunrise, they are going to call you! They don’t care what you are doing, who you are with, they’ll always give you the line, “I was just thinking about you!” Yeah, right: They just need money (fantasy world)!
All of this happens because you exchange numbers with a girl. There’s nothing wrong with the gesture, but there are consequences when you do that; your time is nothing compared to theirs! Which is why, your phone is overheated when they want what they want, money! Even at 2:30 am you are not the STUD you think you are! They want money!
Have you ever called a girl on YOUR time of need (when your nuts are about to explode), she picks up, most times it’s the answering service, but tells you she’ll call you back? Well buddy, you are on her time, t-girl time! And, guess what time she’ll call you back? You got it, after sunrise!
Ask the photogs how prompt they are when it comes to doing a shoot? This is not an admonishment, by no means; it is just a red pill or blue pill moment! Most of those girls work on t-girl time, which is blue pill time!
This is why I handle t-girls with kid-gloves and keep them at arms length. I’ve cussed a number of them out based on their blue pill behavior, but it doesn’t matter because they are on blue pill time and they won’t change! By change I mean, be respectful of the real world! They want that paper!
I know a great deal of girls here in Detroit and I treat them the same. I’ve tried to get them on red pill mode, but they end up going back to blue pill world and so I have to respectfully stay consistent in our relations.
Please note however, I don’t make these statements off the top my head, I’ve experienced them, and so I’m telling you things that have happened to me. I surmise though, all t-girls are not like what I’ve described, but a high percentage has these traits! :cool:

That is the smartest thing I ever heard anyone say about anything.

[kilakali]

Wow I must be lucky I have NEVER recieved a call from a tgirl asking me for money and I know alot worldwide from my travels,and many from this site. I couldnt even imagine what that was like let alone what to do in that situation.

[TVSURFER]

Thanks for the props ‘South’ and MrF, I appreciate it. However, no sooner than I hit the submit button to send my last reply about 2:30am calls, guess what I get (You’ll win the “Fucking Duck” grand prize); another $MONEY$ call!!!
I thought to myself this is creepy! It’s as if the girl was standing over my shoulder, looking at every word I pecked out to reply to this thread!
I put her on hold so I could record this moment. I went into the next room to get my recording device (you can pick one up at your local surveillance [Spy] store;)). I hooked it up to my cell phone and this is the Déjà vu conversation I got:
Me: Sorry about that baby, who is this?
T-girl: Oh, you don’t remember who this is? I called you last week, but I told you I would call you back! You remember now, I was the pretty girl you spoke to in CVS and we talked outside. Remember you said I was pretty?
Me: Oh yeah, [The Pretty Girl] we spoke last Wednesday or Thursday?
T-girl: It was Wednesday and I called you, but I said I would call you [right] back because I had something to do at the moment.
Me: Fuck that was quite a while ago, did you get done what you had to do?
T-girl: You so silly! Whachew doin’?
Me: Nothin’ about to make a sandwich with a beer, why?
T-girl: What kinda sandwich? What kind of beer? Corona?
Me: My personal favorite; turkey breast, ham, Swiss cheese and mayo on deli rye. I’ll wash it down with a Red Stripe.
T-girl: Shit that sounds good! Do you want to share it with me?
Me: If I do, it’s going to cost you!
T-girl: Oh yeah, like what?
Me: Fifty dollars for the sandwich and seventy dollars for the beer!
T-girl: Why so much?
Me: Well I don’t have a license to dispense food or alcoholic beverages, so I might as well make a 1000% profit, feel me? You know like a blow job that used to cost twenty dollars, now it costs two hundred! Feel me?
T-girl: Yeah, but I don’t charge that much!
Me: So, you just called to see what I was doing and you want me to share my sandwich and Red Stripe for charity sake?
T-girl: Naw!
Me: Then what’s up? It took you almost a week to call me “right” back, so wassup? You just want to talk?
T-girl: Well, I wanted to go to Atlanta for the weekend and…
Me: So, you want to have a snack and beer with me, give me a free blow job, but help you get to “The Dirty South” based solely on a returned phone call?
T-girl: Naw, it ain’t like that; I just want to get to Atlanta!
Me: You mean you barely know me, yet you won’t break bread with me or suck my dick for chance to go to Atlanta?
T-girl: Fuck you, you’re getting the shit all mixed up! [Click! Dial tone.]
Another blue pill moment!:rolleyes:
Kilakali, consider yourself very lucky!:cool:

[Experienced]

Thanks for the props ‘South’ and MrF, I appreciate it. However, no sooner than I hit the submit button to send my last reply about 2:30am calls, guess what I get (You’ll win the “Fucking Duck” grand prize); another $MONEY$ call!!!
I thought to myself this is creepy! It’s as if the girl was standing over my shoulder, looking at every word I pecked out to reply to this thread!
I put her on hold so I could record this moment. I went into the next room to get my recording device (you can pick one up at your local surveillance [Spy] store;)). I hooked it up to my cell phone and this is the Déjà vu conversation I got:
Me: Sorry about that baby, who is this?
T-girl: Oh, you don’t remember who this is? I called you last week, but I told you I would call you back! You remember now, I was the pretty girl you spoke to in CVS and we talked outside. Remember you said I was pretty?
Me: Oh yeah, [The Pretty Girl] we spoke last Wednesday or Thursday?
T-girl: It was Wednesday and I called you, but I said I would call you [right] back because I had something to do at the moment.
Me: Fuck that was quite a while ago, did you get done what you had to do?
T-girl: You so silly! Whachew doin’?
Me: Nothin’ about to make a sandwich with a beer, why?
T-girl: What kinda sandwich? What kind of beer? Corona?
Me: My personal favorite; turkey breast, ham, Swiss cheese and mayo on deli rye. I’ll wash it down with a Red Stripe.
T-girl: Shit that sounds good! Do you want to share it with me?
Me: If I do, it’s going to cost you!
T-girl: Oh yeah, like what?
Me: Fifty dollars for the sandwich and seventy dollars for the beer!
T-girl: Why so much?
Me: Well I don’t have a license to dispense food or alcoholic beverages, so I might as well make a 1000% profit, feel me? You know like a blow job that used to cost twenty dollars, now it costs two hundred! Feel me?
T-girl: Yeah, but I don’t charge that much!
Me: So, you just called to see what I was doing and you want me to share my sandwich and Red Stripe for charity sake?
T-girl: Naw!
Me: Then what’s up? It took you almost a week to call me “right” back, so wassup? You just want to talk?
T-girl: Well, I wanted to go to Atlanta for the weekend and…
Me: So, you want to have a snack and beer with me, give me a free blow job, but help you get to “The Dirty South” based solely on a returned phone call?
T-girl: Naw, it ain’t like that; I just want to get to Atlanta!
Me: You mean you barely know me, yet you won’t break bread with me or suck my dick for chance to go to Atlanta?
T-girl: Fuck you, you’re getting the shit all mixed up! [Click! Dial tone.]
Another blue pill moment!:rolleyes:
Kilakali, consider yourself very lucky!:cool:

Where talking conversation here.............................

[kilakali]

Thats a wild conversation lol@
T-girl: Well, I wanted to go to Atlanta for the weekend and…
the pause im assuming is where the give me some money so I can go part comes in.
My conversations are more like either "Im Horny" or "Lets go eat or hang out". I will definitely be on the look out for the "blah blah blah and......" part.

[Ms Remy M]

[QUOTE=MrF;983I think the Tgirls talk to each other, too. So, once you get the reputation for being "generous", or easy to feel sorry for them, you get hustled from every angle. Oh well, there could be worse reputations ...[/QUOTE]

I have actually found that most of the gals will try to protect their clients like a Hawk. They may let one other gal in on it, but that's usually it. She'll throw a monopoly down if she can.

[kilakali]

I have actually found that most of the gals will try to protect their clients like a Hawk. They may let one other gal in on it, but that's usually it. She'll throw a monopoly down if she can.

The more popular ones with many clients I know jack their jaws alot from stories they told me. If they are telling me all the info I know they tell their girlfriends. There have been a number of times I have been out with a crew of tgirls after a night out at the club, and we hit Denny's, and this convo comes up.
They like to share the wealth sorta speak. Espically if you are labeled a TC (tranny chaser). Its usually the "small time" ones who protect their clients. Im only mentioning the TG's from the big cities I know.

[kilakali]

Can someone here answer this question as I have never been a client? Why would you pay for other things outside of services provided? Whats the point? You get a "freebie" later?

[DirtySouth]

Can someone here answer this question as I have never been a client? Why would you pay for other things outside of services provided? Whats the point? You get a "freebie" later?

The point is, he's obviously treating them more like he would if he was courting a real woman. Not just a tranny hooker. I have done this myself in the past. I tried to treat a few select girls to dates and never tried to date them as a client. Ya know, trying to actually treat them like a regular person....not a fantasy behind closed doors. I think thats what he meant. In my personal experience, its about the biggest waste of time you can make. Pay to play or dont bother yourself with making it more difficult trying to be nice, with the WORKING girls that is. Although you may be sincere, the mighty $ is always going to come before you in there eyes.

[TVSURFER]

Can someone here answer this question as I have never been a client? Why would you pay for other things outside of services provided? Whats the point? You get a "freebie" later?

The real (red pill) point is this; one is attracted to t-girls for sex and sex only, their sex is just that broad! Sex services are all they provide if the ducketts are right; one will find out there is never a freebie with a t-girl, because they’ll hit you up for cash after you’ve had so-called “freebie” sex! They’ll siphon something of value out of you someway or another. They’re as Dirty South says: They’re WORKING GIRLS! They don’t have regular jobs like regular folks!
I don't mean to sound cynical, because I know the real world is like that!:eek: I have to pay to play in the (blue pill) world! :cool:

[Ms Remy M]

I have to disagree slightly, and I too have never been a 'client'. I know 'working gals' that are about their business to a 'T', but still have a 'cock in the emergency glass' for when they want to have a bit of fun on their own terms. If you meet these gals under business circumstances, then you shouldn't expect anything to change. However; if it's a causal social encounter that brings you two together than other opportunities may present themselves. Again I am not flat out disagreeing, I guess just saying there are quite a few exceptions to the rule with the 'working gals'. I don't necessarily mean trying to make the 'escort' your girlfriend either,(I hear the Captain Save-A-Hoe joke coming LOL) but more so just a 'fuck buddy'. Of course if 'escorting' isn't their primary hustle than anything is possible as well.

[TurboMan]

The point is, he's obviously treating them more like he would if he was courting a real woman. Not just a tranny hooker. I have done this myself in the past. I tried to treat a few select girls to dates and never tried to date them as a client. Ya know, trying to actually treat them like a regular person....not a fantasy behind closed doors. I think thats what he meant. In my personal experience, its about the biggest waste of time you can make. Pay to play or dont bother yourself with making it more difficult trying to be nice, with the WORKING girls that is. Although you may be sincere, the mighty $ is always going to come before you in there eyes.

hey DirtySouth,this is the reason why i read and listen to what you have to say in your posts.yea....take me to school.

[methodman]

This may be the most interestin thread I ever read here.

I've been messin with these 19-20 something black girls for over a year or so. I encourage them to call late when they feeling it... whether they feelin sex or money matters little to me cause even when its about money they still about sex. never have to worry about them being uninterested in sex. well no more then once anyway. :p

So when they do call I talk em down... oh I aint really feelin it... cmon baby I need to pay my cell bill... oh I may have 60. or 70... ok..

but I kinda got outted myself one weekend. 2 of em hit my phome 7/8 times and I stupidly handed my phone to my wife without knowing, so she's like: you got 5 missed calls. me: uh.

anyway I'm moving them to a prepaid phone and getting a new regular number. now my fear is leasving the prepaid phone out in the open or not turning ringer off in the car.

cool to hear y'alls experiences though.

[Ms Remy M]

This may be the most interestin thread I ever read here.

I've been messin with these 19-20 something black girls for over a year or so. I encourage them to call late when they feeling it... whether they feelin sex or money matters little to me cause even when its about money they still about sex. never have to worry about them being uninterested in sex. well no more then once anyway. :p

So when they do call I talk em down... oh I aint really feelin it... cmon baby I need to pay my cell bill... oh I may have 60. or 70... ok..

but I kinda got outted myself one weekend. 2 of em hit my phome 7/8 times and I stupidly handed my phone to my wife without knowing, so she's like: you got 5 missed calls. me: uh.

anyway I'm moving them to a prepaid phone and getting a new regular number. now my fear is leasving the prepaid phone out in the open or not turning ringer off in the car.

cool to hear y'alls experiences though.

Yeah you going to have to stay on top of that. Keep the phone locked so you have to enter code when you turn it on, keep it turned off until you ready to 'play' and keep the phone is some location where ya wife never goes.

[DirtySouth]

Yeah you going to have to stay on top of that. Keep the phone locked so you have to enter code when you turn it on, keep it turned off until you ready to 'play' and keep the phone is some location where ya wife never goes.

Or stop fucking with trannies!

Its a hard thing to do lol. I was married myself and when shit hit the fan, I call on some trusty trannies to get my rocks off. In the long run, wasnt worth the trouble. Be careful brother and never get caught up too much in the matrix. Always keep yourself protected.

[Ms Remy M]

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huh? I'm confused, what does this have to do with anything?

[kilakali]

huh? I'm confused, what does this have to do with anything?

Its a spammer a few have popped up lately.

[Ms Remy M]

Its a spammer a few have popped up lately.

Ahh dammit I despise commercials!!!

[methodman]

Yeah you going to have to stay on top of that. Keep the phone locked so you have to enter code when you turn it on, keep it turned off until you ready to 'play' and keep the phone is some location where ya wife never goes.


I got a net 10 prepaid now I'm going to change our cell service from att to us celluar and in the process I'm taking a new number... telling wife att won't let me transfer # cause my contract aint up (which is true).

for now I hide the prepaid in the car under the mat. someone once said put it in glove compartment but wifey goes in there. i figured out how to set it up so it needs a code to unlock in case it gets found.

[DirtySouth]

I'm still hoping some of our new gals on this forum will give us some feedback on this topic!

[TVSURFER]

methodman, you're an original, and I respect you because we have t-girls in common, but keeping shit like cell phones and the biggest secret of all, fucking around with t-girls is a recipe for disaster, BIG TIME!
I'm not telling you how to run your life or how you do your thing, but fucking around with another gg is one thing, but trying to explain to your wife you have a hard dick for a transsexuals is another! That information trickles down throughout your near family, and worst of all hers!
A good friend of mine, who's married with three daughters, was fucking around with a real young chick. I mean, this dame was fine as sand dust! I told him to be careful because he was fucking her everytime he saw her. Well, you don't have to guess what happened next; he got her pregnant! He came to me worried as hell, because he said he didn't want to break up his family of 16 years. I told him he had some decisions to make; better now than hiding this fact, 18 years from now; after the lies and creeping he's done. He fessed up to his wife and kept her from being pissed off and holding the incident over his head. The baby is now five and part of his nuclear family! I just think how his life would be if he kept this on the"downlow"!
I would seriously think about what you are doing to keep the gorilla out of the room!
I'm glad I'm single and unattached so I won't have to hide what I do with my life!
Just my opinion and its your ballgame!
:cool:

[DirtySouth]

methodman, you're an original, and I respect you because we have t-girls in common, but keeping shit like cell phones and the biggest secret of all, fucking around with t-girls is a recipe for disaster, BIG TIME!
I'm not telling you how to run your life or how you do your thing, but fucking around with another gg is one thing, but trying to explain to your wife you have a hard dick for a transsexuals is another! That information trickles down throughout your near family, and worst of all hers!
A good friend of mine, who's married with three daughters, was fucking around with a real young chick. I mean, this dame was fine as sand dust! I told him to be careful because he was fucking her everytime he saw her. Well, you don't have to guess what happened next; he got her pregnant! He came to me worried as hell, because he said he didn't want to break up his family of 16 years. I told him he had some decisions to make; better now than hiding this fact, 18 years from now; after the lies and creeping he's done. He fessed up to his wife and kept her from being pissed off and holding the incident over his head. The baby is now five and part of his nuclear family! I just think how his life would be if he kept this on the"downlow"!
I would seriously think about what you are doing to keep the gorilla out of the room!
I'm glad I'm single and unattached so I won't have to hide what I do with my life!
Just my opinion and its your ballgame!
:cool:

Wow - That was perfectly said.

[anonymoussonny]

Method Man is speaking for so many dudes right now. I love my family and yet a Thick BTG is my weakness. I have been a lurker for a long time b/c I feel you Method. I have really fought with my desire to 'date'. I want a Baby Mama BTG on the side (a BTG that is stunningly beautiful yet willing to be 2nd, satisfied AND 'kept$'). I have had GG's but they can't keep their mouth's closed, once I put my d*** in 'em.
Any advice???

[DYNACORD]

I hope everyone knows or realizes that TGIRLS are the worst at keeping their business out in the street. The TGIRL community is relatively small. They all seem to know each other in someway shape or form. A lot of them can't stand the other and nobody wants the other to have a good man for a boy friend. Jealousy is a friend killer.
The key is to fing a girl who is'nt in the business at all. Some girls don't want to be around the other girls. That's the one's you need to find. It's hard
to do. And when you do:::cut all contact with any of the others unless they are really, really good friends. No extra cuties on the side. Been there, Done that. Even got the TSHIRT:::complete with a couple of Knife wounds in it. "LMAO"
Good luck!

[TVSURFER]

To paraphrase Morpheus:
“You take the blue pill, the story ends; you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe!
You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland and you’ll see how far the rabbit hole goes! All I’m offering is the TRUTH, nothing more!”
Anything that is good to you is not always good for you!
In this society, deviate sex, on the down-low, especially when you are married, can fuck your life up and can sometimes put you on the road to end your life because of your divergent behavior! I think dope fiends and alcoholics go through the same quandary.
Its tough, but you’ll have to make a hard decision, because you’ve made a moral resolution to another person; a female, your wife. You can’t have everything! You can’t be selfish with your carnal desires when others are involved. That my friend is definitely a red pill moment!
You can think you’re pulling the wool over her eyes because you can just tell her you’re watching the game with the fellas, yet providence is watching you through a telescope while you creep to get your shit packed or taking pleasure in having dick breath! The creeping will drive you crazy! Your conscience will eat you from the inside. Everyday you wake up and look at you wife and shorties, you know, and only you’ll know you’re living a lie! Definitely a blue pill instant! Ask Judas!
What if you catch something beyond an STD? That’s a red pill moment for all “down lowers”! What if you’re out with your wife, and or, her and the kids or your in-laws and you run across one of your deviate liaisons? That my friend IS the TRUTH, if or, heaven forbid, it ever happens! Those are the things you have to think about when others are involved. There is no middle ground! If you can’t handle the red pill, then keep taking the blue one!
However, you’ll be beyond blue in the face if you’re ever caught giving a tranny a blow job or someone close to you sees you in an uncompromising position with one as you exit from a known tranny hangout. Remember Vito from The Sopranos? Remember how his desires fucked up everything in his life and how his life was ended tragically because he was trying to fool everyone? You can’t have it both ways! This society is not ready for it! Is that why you call yourself anonymoussonny?
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[MrF]

You make some valid points, TVSURFER, and it's something all "non-single" guys have to wrestle with. One small point is that we don't know enough about the details of any member's life situation, nor about what specific sex acts (or pseudo-sex acts) they engage in, to judge them. Ever hear of a full body massage ? Not entirely without risk, but a helluva lot less risky than anal sex, something which I never enjoyed anyway. It's just a hint about how one can reduce the risks to a possibly morally acceptable level. Stay off the streets, get a motel. Budget yourself strictly. That kind of thing.

[TVSURFER]

I feel ya, MrF! I just want the dudes to think about the world in which we are dwelling! We are of a select group. Which is getting harder and harder to define. However, it is getting smaller and bigger at the same time, if you follow my drift! We should all be careful about this "thing" of ours and watch out for each other.
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[DirtySouth]

Method Man is speaking for so many dudes right now. I love my family and yet a Thick BTG is my weakness. I have been a lurker for a long time b/c I feel you Method. I have really fought with my desire to 'date'. I want a Baby Mama BTG on the side (a BTG that is stunningly beautiful yet willing to be 2nd, satisfied AND 'kept$'). I have had GG's but they can't keep their mouth's closed, once I put my d*** in 'em.
Any advice???

Yeah, here is some advice - that doesn't exist. The tgirls have just a big a mouth unless money is involved. Thats the equalizer. Would you rather your wife find out about your GG adventures or the tranny ones? I think thats worth paying to keep silent. You piss off your tranny baby momma, what do you think the first thing she is gonna do?

Things are different these days. This isnt like 6 or 7 years ago when you could slide through and smash some ass on the low. Now, girls want your money or your time. They want to be taken out, wined and dined....even if they have a $75 lunch special on Craigslist. Tgirls are becoming more accepted. If you dont accept that yourself, you're in for some fustration.

[methodman]

I aint sure how my comments steered the convo where it did but several points suddenly rose up.

First, I got over the angst of what I'm doing a long time ago. I take care of my fam quite well, my sons are grown doing well and this is something I do and will do whether caught or not.


Second as far as worrying about being outted? Again something gave up worrying about years ago. Fact of the matter is most of these little girls run at night and in hoods where there is pretty much zero chance of crossing paths with. In fact in over 20 years I;ve seen exactly one during the daytime working in a Taco Bell and she nodded discreetly.


Third, I also long ago gave up the daydreams of a regular sort tranny mistress. It always was a matter of time or money. Back in the day when I had more time then money I put in time. At some point it became far simpler and more secure to keep it cash and carry. All they know about me is the phone # and that just became an untraceable prepaid. No one sees me with them outside of the no-tell motels.

Fourth, as far as the STD issue this thing comes with risks. The best you can do is to cover yourself and avoid riskier practices. If that you still uncomfortable you need to get out of this.