View Full Version : I've have $75k to spend on porn...
GroobySteven
05-15-2010, 11:36 AM
Ok who has the ideas? The paysite model has waned for many new sites and although we're still opening a few new sites, we're looking at other avenues.
Our blog network is doing well, our sites like http://www.tgirls.com is pretty awesome and our new cam site, http://www.tgirl-cams.com seems to be a success in it's first week.
We have DVD's, VOD's, Mobile, free forums and more ...
... so what do we do next?
I've $75k to invest in projects in the next few months. It could be one project, it could be many. What would YOU buy. What is missing from the TS porn scene. If you had the $75k what would you do with it to make more money, in the adult TS business.
Let's see what we can put together. Anybody with killer ideas who doesn't want to talk about it here but can bring something to the table and looking for partners, you can get me on admin@grooby.com
As mad or mundane as it may sounds. Let's talk.
aplus82
05-15-2010, 02:52 PM
i like how kilakali post pics of tgirls in a normal or party setting sometimes. I enjoy the porn stuff, but sometimes its nice to see these girls in a natural kinda setting. I know sometimes he cant post all of his stuff maybe for legal reasons, but investing in a website for him might give him the legal way of producing some great shoots of our faviorite stars.
TICOFURY22
05-15-2010, 03:15 PM
the main thing I want available is the older clips re uploaded in HD format or single clips or a girl's full set for sale like B.T.Whackers do
werwt22
05-15-2010, 04:02 PM
First thing I did was go to a porn site and look at all the separate categories to see what hasnt been done yet. You ever think of hiring some artists like the guys from www.powerweapons.com and start coming up with animated videos? Imagine www.3darlings.com except with TS instead. 3darlings have perfected the jiggling of all parts LOL. I'll take my commission now *wink*
werwt22
05-15-2010, 04:06 PM
Scat is the only other area you havent touched. Someone was brave enough to come out with Shemale scat house, but no one has come up with a website. I noticed a lot of girls put it in their ads but who knows what they'll do with the camera on. And I'm all outta ideas for the moment.
bujrocks
05-16-2010, 12:01 AM
SCAT!!! NASTY, PLEASE SEANCHAI DON'T EVER GO THAT ROUTE. But if you really want to use that money wisely you could donate to "feed my childrenz" foundation. I prefer cash and I'll make sure that money is spent well, lol!!! We'll arrange the transaction details later! Thanks!
But on a serious note. Have you ever thought about getting black-tgirls or shemaleyum t-girls to participate in T-Girl on T-Girl orgies and either creating a full length Grooby video or another Grooby website??? That would seriously be some sexy shit and very unique. Too often the t-girl orgy scenes are typically the Brazilian chicks, which is alright, but I think the fellas would like to see some fine ass T-Girls from the USA getting it on with each other (Just imagine Kennedy Logan, thick ass Triina from ATL and Jade going at it with each other, wow!!!). And no lame T-Girl to T-Girl jackoff videos, I'm talking about prime time ass pounding!!! Just throwing out ideas Chief!!!
kilakali
05-16-2010, 02:03 AM
i like how kilakali post pics of tgirls in a normal or party setting sometimes. I enjoy the porn stuff, but sometimes its nice to see these girls in a natural kinda setting. I know sometimes he cant post all of his stuff maybe for legal reasons, but investing in a website for him might give him the legal way of producing some great shoots of our faviorite stars.
Thanks...I have been interested in seeing a site like that with a little porn twist. For instance catching a Tgirl giving head to a john in the restroom or catching a girl masterbating in her car or getting fucked in a "risky" place. On Trina's site there is a scene with her getting fucked on top of a car in a car wash stall.
Seanchai I emailed you with more details and another idea.
TS Paris Pirelli
05-16-2010, 02:58 AM
I'd like to see a mainstream Tranny Magazine, which could be marketed everywhere, even your local liquor store like every other porn in this world....T-Girls are one of the most marketable fetishes and seeing a magazine, that showed the shoots of american T-girls etc....So it would be taking the online site and making it avail in magazine and subscription.....done in same matter as hustler etc......
twowaybro
05-16-2010, 05:59 AM
I'd like to see a mainstream Tranny Magazine, which could be marketed everywhere, even your local liquor store like every other porn in this world....T-Girls are one of the most marketable fetishes and seeing a magazine, that showed the shoots of american T-girls etc....So it would be taking the online site and making it avail in magazine and subscription.....done in same matter as hustler etc......
I like this idea also Ms Lady and it has been tried before(see:Transformation Magazine) but profitability would be a concern. The market that would be inclined toward such a mag tends to be somewhat private about their fetish for transgendered females and would be reticent about purchasing it via a local newsstand, book store, liquor store etc. like your typical "girlie" magazines. Without adequate circulation and a substantial subscription base it would be very hard to sell advertising which is the lifeblood of that industry. T-girl porn reigns supreme online as one can consume it in the privacy of their own abode without any prying eyes(other than "Big Brother") leaning over one's shoulder. As one who loves mags in general i would welcome a trans-themed one along the lines of a "Black Tail" or "Players". It would be cool to flip through those pages and admire sexy and sensuous transgender models and even occasional banter like you get here on the daily. Digital media is cool but for me there is nothing like the intimacy of holding a book, mag or other periodical in one's hands. So, yes, like you i would love to see it happen but making it profitable is another story.
TS Paris Pirelli
05-16-2010, 10:48 AM
yea but transformation is no where close to what shemale yum or blacktgirls puts out.... they should pick really hot tgurls to shoot like a playgurl type thing but for hot tgurls only centerfold and all when i hear transformation i think of drag queens and hot messes cause i never see passable hot ladies in it i think it would sell good if it was marketed rite... but im only one voice lol muah
Ms Remy M
05-16-2010, 12:41 PM
I liked your idea and had similar designs about 5 years ago, but since then, the print industry has fallen into its death spiral for which there may be no return. Many great successful print magazines have lost substantial readership and advert dollars to the online machine.
I've suggested many of times to the company to look toward creating a non porn Iphone app, just showing the girls bikini, skimpy outfits, maybe not even directly marketing it as Tgirls, but of course linking to our sites for 'full exposure'
I also suggested a non porn site for our shemales to do more mainstream type modeling, but how to monetize that, when guys hardly like to pay for porn.
As much as I despise nearly all things under the 'Reality Tv' category, I think a Grooby House showcasing 3 different girls, living, working together in Industry is hot for those into that kind of thing.
Even better to market to Hotels, scripted scenes, for the girls with acting potential, every week along with the solo and hardcore scenes, there's one 30min clip, moderate on the dialogue, and moderate on the sex. Basically like something that would be accepted by hotels for their PPV programs. I don't know what process hotel chains use in selecting porn, but overall good exposure for Grooby and helping to build future actresses. This is basically what I hoped Shemale Pornstars (Bill you are great!) would be, only adding in the hotel aspect as a way to further monetize this.
I'm full of ideas, but will hold off on giving out too much
twowaybro
05-16-2010, 05:14 PM
As much as I despise nearly all things under the 'Reality Tv' category, I think a Grooby House showcasing 3 different girls, living, working together in Industry is hot for those into that kind of thing.
Like you, i'm not much into "reality tv", but i can see this working. Especially if the girls are hot + talented.
werwt22
05-16-2010, 09:25 PM
I was just on distintas and so many of their vids are glamour. It adds unbelievable attraction to these girls. Look at a couple vids. http://es.distintas.net/videos This vid though, the combination of the music and video were just killa. http://es.distintas.net/model/biankanascimento/1689/1/31 Means time to step it up to "Jenna Jamison" quality. The sexy ass glamour shots slowly leading into nakedness LOL. Now that's top of the line.
gazathu
06-01-2010, 11:39 AM
Ok who has the ideas? The paysite model has waned for many new sites and although we're still opening a few new sites, we're looking at other avenues.
Our blog network is doing well, our sites like http://www.tgirls.com is pretty awesome and our new cam site, http://www.tgirl-cams.com seems to be a success in it's first week.
We have DVD's, VOD's, Mobile, free forums and more ...
... so what do we do next?
I've $75k to invest in projects in the next few months. It could be one project, it could be many. What would YOU buy. What is missing from the TS porn scene. If you had the $75k what would you do with it to make more money, in the adult TS business.
Let's see what we can put together. Anybody with killer ideas who doesn't want to talk about it here but can bring something to the table and looking for partners, you can get me on admin@grooby.com
As mad or mundane as it may sounds. Let's talk.
TS hardcore version of the REAL WORLD :)
Ms Remy M
06-01-2010, 02:06 PM
I was just on distintas and so many of their vids are glamour. It adds unbelievable attraction to these girls. Look at a couple vids. http://es.distintas.net/videos This vid though, the combination of the music and video were just killa. http://es.distintas.net/model/biankanascimento/1689/1/31 Means time to step it up to "Jenna Jamison" quality. The sexy ass glamour shots slowly leading into nakedness LOL. Now that's top of the line.
I had a producer create original tracks for just this reason before, (as it's illegal to use copyrighted music) and was denied getting them edited into the vid clips in proper fashion. I had noticed this is how a lot of solo GG porn is presented and thought it was more interesting then the quiet flap of jerking off and a/c running, alas I don't handle the vid editing. I do think this could be a superior presentation method as a lot of girls are too nervous to talk in any meaningful way.
The vids didn't offer much in the way of porn, more of a rated 'r' behind the scenes of a porn shoot than a 'x' rated shoot. I don't think I actually saw her naked at all, so that wouldn't be acceptable to people paying for porn.
As far as glamour, I like them as well, though you can't expect the large amount of photos from a glamour shoot, more like 10-50 pics if you are lucky and very talented. Again, this sort of thing would mean working more with experinced girls more so than new girls but I do like it nonetheless.
I think the biggest factor with this style of content is the higher production value needed, from both pre and post production aspects. All of this goes to raise the cost of said production and may not actually raise profitability in any meaningful way. The internet has allowed the Gonzo style of content creation to flourish and is nearly the only thing keeping porn profitable in this age of massive free porn.
Dixie Normous
06-02-2010, 04:30 AM
Ok who has the ideas? I've $75k to invest in projects in the next few months. It could be one project, it could be many. What would YOU buy.
I'm a huge SexxxyJade fan and her right breast just breaks my heart. I say take $5000 of the $75Gs and relocate her right nipple, which is slowly migrating northward and now points skyward.
It used to point down, so I fear that if this relocation project isn't undertaken, one day her nipple may actually migrate to her forehead. :D
fuego
06-04-2010, 05:57 PM
Thanks...I have been interested in seeing a site like that with a little porn twist. For instance catching a Tgirl giving head to a john in the restroom or catching a girl masterbating in her car or getting fucked in a "risky" place. On Trina's site there is a scene with her getting fucked on top of a car in a car wash stall.
Seanchai I emailed you with more details and another idea.
Same here, that is a great idea
I like that whole "public" feel to porn, Risky porn, That would be great
A lot of people fantasize about that I know for sure It would take off.
hotio321
06-05-2010, 09:53 PM
I have noticied that I don't see much frottage on cam. For me it is a huge turn on, and I would love to see more of it in the video's the fella's are getting of the ladies. Just my particular favorite fetish,so I'm not sure how many others enjoy watching it. More frot !!
bigdicki
06-06-2010, 07:21 AM
I have noticied that I don't see much frottage on cam. For me it is a huge turn on, and I would love to see more of it in the video's the fella's are getting of the ladies. Just my particular favorite fetish,so I'm not sure how many others enjoy watching it. More frot !!
If you are talking shenis on penis, I actually do get into this. I don't see much of it in porn either. One of the hottest situations I've participated in ended with us doing a shenis-on-penis friction fest then her shooting her load while within seconds I shot mine. ;)
illuno
06-06-2010, 05:07 PM
I think a low budget TV mature movie involving t-girls would be great. Something similar to the ones that you see on cinemax. That way maybe one day, some cable channel would actually show it? Grooby already has the cameras, I'm sure some of the girls would be very willing, they wouldn't have to be great actors, because most of the actors on skinemax aren't that great. All we need is a script with plenty of sex. Of course this being a TVMA, there would be no actual penetration, and all "sex" would need to be simulated. I think this would be great, and could possibly give grooby exposure to a new audience.:D
eclectic_co
06-10-2010, 01:54 PM
Interesting idea! I have thought about this before and also agree that the market for transgender related material is growing. Seeing as it is all simulated how much nudity are you expecting. been a while since i saw something on Cinamax, but as I remember, things like the RED SHOE DIARIES and such where fairly tame.
Just the same i like where you are going with this idea!
:cool:
I think a low budget TV mature movie involving t-girls would be great. Something similar to the ones that you see on cinemax. That way maybe one day, some cable channel would actually show it? Grooby already has the cameras, I'm sure some of the girls would be very willing, they wouldn't have to be great actors, because most of the actors on skinemax aren't that great. All we need is a script with plenty of sex. Of course this being a TVMA, there would be no actual penetration, and all "sex" would need to be simulated. I think this would be great, and could possibly give grooby exposure to a new audience.:D
TSNATALIACOXXX
06-10-2010, 02:45 PM
i am kinda mad at you to... we will talk....
GroobySteven
06-10-2010, 04:05 PM
i am kinda mad at you to... we will talk....
Moi? Mon cherie?
cam22001
06-10-2010, 08:02 PM
Few ideas:
1. TS Fetish
(I'd end and erase the Trans Dom site. It's awful.) Concentrate on the trannies who are truly dom or bossy (not acting that way by being nasty or rude. Picking trannies and calling them Mistress will NOT do!), I can even suggest names.
1a. Have a section on Foot Fetish for trannies with pretty feet.
1b. Have a section for the hair lovers.
1c. Have a section for playful slapping, spitting, etc. Nothing cruel.
Note: You may not be able to find many truly domme trannies, to have new faces every month but if the right models are picked, they can do original scenes. Five or six trannies is all you need.
2. TS Classics
Locating some of the older super stars and posting them nude or clothed. It's not easily done but can be very inexpensive.
3. Transvestites
4. International
Each month or two dedicated to the trannies of different countries and NONE from Asia/Far East, there are already an abundance of those. Eurpean countries, Argentina, Chile, etc.
NOTE: ONLY trannies who can get fully erect should be considered
I can elaborate if interested. All the best!
Dixie Normous
06-10-2010, 09:19 PM
i am kinda mad at you to... we will talk....
I'll bet you're even more beautiful when you're mad, if that's humanly possible! :)
TSNATALIACOXXX
06-10-2010, 11:19 PM
Moi? Mon cherie?
we will talk you already know what its about....lol now you have to make me happy...
Dixie Normous
06-11-2010, 12:23 AM
we will talk you already know what its about....lol now you have to make me happy...
We're both gonna' be this happy once we're married, and I ain't just whistling Dixie:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gQZszZyQ5V8/SEBep9SGzMI/AAAAAAAAAUs/bfOlv7xI8lA/s320/ren-n-stimpy.gif
GroobySteven
06-11-2010, 10:00 AM
we will talk you already know what its about....lol now you have to make me happy...
Bend over.
Ms Remy M
06-11-2010, 10:22 PM
I'm going to take it back to the my old touring days. Give me a tour bus or a RV, shrink wrap with Grooby Production and images of 1 white, Latin, and Black TS. A camera person to capture behind the scenes footage and some per diem, so we can travel the country shooting and promoting a la Girls Gone Wild. :cool:
Or an East Coast studio :D
Dixie Normous
06-12-2010, 12:11 AM
Ok who has the ideas?
How about setting up a few Fight Federations for T-Swallows.
One for boxing:
http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/10/16-22/girl%20fight.jpg
One for rasslin':
http://www.blacksporn.net/girls-wrestling/photo/girls-wrestling-photo.jpg
and one for anything goes:
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/3/80%20Girl%20Fight.jpg
Winner of the match mounts the loser!:
http://trannyporn.blogtur.com/uploads/k/kristi/Trannys%20shemales(1).jpg
bigdicki
06-12-2010, 04:26 AM
I'm going to take it back to the my old touring days. Give me a tour bus or a RV, shrink wrap with Grooby Production and images of 1 white, Latin, and Black TS. A camera person to capture behind the scenes footage and some per diem, so we can travel the country shooting and promoting a la Girls Gone Wild. :cool:
Or an East Coast studio :D
I don't know if you are joking but that, to me, is the best idea I've heard. Obviously everything would be set up in advance, but then going out to local tgirl hangouts in cities with the girls and having a guy "meet" the girl then they get busy in the van (a la Bang Bus) or even at a hotel room. The true-life down and dirty thing is what would sell because a lot of strolls are gone, a lot of guys are "scurred" to go to tgirl/gay spot and lastly its different. And before you say it, no its not like Tranny Surprise or Tranny Hunter. At least the last time I looked, they don't show real spots and have other tgs in the background poppin' shit, etc.
Ms Remy M
06-12-2010, 02:58 PM
I don't know if you are joking but that, to me, is the best idea I've heard. Obviously everything would be set up in advance, but then going out to local tgirl hangouts in cities with the girls and having a guy "meet" the girl then they get busy in the van (a la Bang Bus) or even at a hotel room. The true-life down and dirty thing is what would sell because a lot of strolls are gone, a lot of guys are "scurred" to go to tgirl/gay spot and lastly its different. And before you say it, no its not like Tranny Surprise or Tranny Hunter. At least the last time I looked, they don't show real spots and have other tgs in the background poppin' shit, etc.
oh yeah I'm serious, I've spent a couple years on the road for various promotional tours in the past. Sprite Remix, HBO's it's not Tv, Ruff Ryders, How High, Mystic, Playstation, And 1, Sum 41, and a couple others specific artist tours, but of course I wasn't filming in this perspective, but I know how to get it done :cool: The key aspect of this idea being that it serves two purposes. We are creating content and promoting at a grass roots level, spreading good-will amongst the potential models we encounter and getting every single male that see's that shrink wrapped bus to google Grooby Productions to see WTF is going on and how they can get in on it :)
It can still work with a van, but bus/RV gives a certain 'wow' factor that a van can't match.
bigdicki
06-12-2010, 06:49 PM
oh yeah I'm serious, I've spent a couple years on the road for various promotional tours in the past. Sprite Remix, HBO's it's not Tv, Ruff Ryders, How High, Mystic, Playstation, And 1, Sum 41, and a couple others specific artist tours, but of course I wasn't filming in this perspective, but I know how to get it done :cool: The key aspect of this idea being that it serves two purposes. We are creating content and promoting at a grass roots level, spreading good-will amongst the potential models we encounter and getting every single male that see's that shrink wrapped bus to google Grooby Productions to see WTF is going on and how they can get in on it :)
It can still work with a van, but bus/RV gives a certain 'wow' factor that a van can't match.
That's a site dudes would definitely subscribe to. You can't get that anywhere else. Shit I need to see if Seanchai would let me invest! :D
DrDickenstein
06-12-2010, 07:01 PM
That's a site dudes would definitely subscribe to. You can't get that anywhere else. Shit I need to see if Seanchai would let me invest! :D
Yessiirrr! I want in on that action myself...and I wanna be the driver!! Need a site name....whatcha got??
bigdicki
06-12-2010, 09:01 PM
Yessiirrr! I want in on that action myself...and I wanna be the driver!! Need a site name....whatcha got??
T-Girl Tour... TrannyTour? Sound kind of cliche huh? :rolleyes: :o
cam22001
06-12-2010, 09:21 PM
The Fight scenes are supposed to be sexy???? My GOD! The idea, to me, is not only cruel and savage but DISGUSTING! I'd never go near any Grooby site again!
Dixie Normous
06-12-2010, 09:36 PM
The Fight scenes are supposed to be sexy???? My GOD! The idea, to me, is not only cruel and savage but DISGUSTING! I'd never go near any Grooby site again!
http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0408/BOYImage3.jpg
kasseen
06-14-2010, 10:14 PM
I think a site that featured Passable CDs and big booty boys would get a big gay following going
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