Sheeba

[trans17]

Sheeba passed thru the Philly area this past weekend. Didn't see her but saw her ad. Any chance she'll make a return to BTG?

[kilakali]

Sheeba passed thru the Philly area this past weekend. Didn't see her but saw her ad. Any chance she'll make a return to BTG?

I highly doubt it. This has been discussed in numerous threads...

[62des]

I see a pattern that once girls reach a certain status they stop doing shoots for sites and what not.

[GroobySteven]

Asked her a few times but not interested.
:-(

I think they just get bored of it. A photoshoot can be quite a turn on and exciting the first times you do it, but then it just becomes another job!

[unknown5]

I've actually spoke to her about it, and she has some things in the works.
but she most likely won't be doing any shoots for any sites but her own.
so hit her up and tell her your requests and you might just get it

[MrKnockOut]

Asked her a few times but not interested.
:-(

I think they just get bored of it. A photoshoot can be quite a turn on and exciting the first times you do it, but then it just becomes another job!

real talk, some of these girls feel exploited. kinda hard knowing the guy who runs the site that needs the girls is a millionaire and these girls get by living suitcase to suitcase. nothing against you my man, just telling you what i've been told recently by some of the more popular chicks from years past. these chicks were around and hot before the whole become your own porn producer/website czar craze started with the girls and now they feel kinda salty that there shit is all out on the internet and they aren't getting anything for it. i know for damn sure sheeba, as yall call her, would feel salty seeing as though how most of her videos are the default video for black shemale bing/google searches.

[bigdicki]

real talk, some of these girls feel exploited. kinda hard knowing the guy who runs the site that needs the girls is a millionaire and these girls get by living suitcase to suitcase. nothing against you my man, just telling you what i've been told recently by some of the more popular chicks from years past. these chicks were around and hot before the whole become your own porn producer/website czar craze started with the girls and now they feel kinda salty that there shit is all out on the internet and they aren't getting anything for it. i know for damn sure sheeba, as yall call her, would feel salty seeing as though how most of her videos are the default video for black shemale bing/google searches.

Real talk: then those salty ass tgirls need to use the site to springboard their own grind. I hate when I hear these girls pissing and moaning (or calling asking me for money) instead getting on their grind. This country more than any other is one where if you want to hustle you can get some bread. In other words, if those girls getting pissed about Seanchai rolling and living it up in Hawaii or wherever would do a couple of shoots, get on the net with a site, pump buzz in the forum, then they wouldn't have time to worry about his bread, they'd be counting their own. Paris Pirelli and Luxury are starting out with it and girls like Jade and Madison been at it for years. :cool:

[Ms Remy M]

real talk, some of these girls feel exploited. kinda hard knowing the guy who runs the site that needs the girls is a millionaire and these girls get by living suitcase to suitcase. nothing against you my man, just telling you what i've been told recently by some of the more popular chicks from years past. these chicks were around and hot before the whole become your own porn producer/website czar craze started with the girls and now they feel kinda salty that there shit is all out on the internet and they aren't getting anything for it. i know for damn sure sheeba, as yall call her, would feel salty seeing as though how most of her videos are the default video for black shemale bing/google searches.

Feel exploited lol that's bullshit, I despise hearing this. Grooby give the girls a chance to shine, introduce them to the Adult Industry in a proper professional aspect. Whether they choose to further pursue a career and opportunities in this Industry is totally up to them. We can't force feed them success. Nobody stops these girls from contacting the other porn studios for work or starting their own solo site. Instead of staring at youtube, myspace, and other random crap online, tell them to do some damn work and research the Adult Industry. There are only a handful of production studios that are reliably shooting ts erotica so it should be a very easy search.

Whomever feels like we aren't helping them be successful, needs to put the cheeseburger down, drop the friends doing nothing positive in their life, and get focused man. Also, recognize that solo sites aren't the only way to success either. I give big props to the girls running solo sites as it take a huge amount of work, time, effort, and money to be done properly and legally examples (marketing, PR, content production, website design, etc.). I do think it can be just as easy to make the same level of money solo site girls *cough*(notice how many solo site girls still escort) do by simply doing Webcam shows, affiliate sales, and doing shoots for the various companies out there. I personally always try and help my models that express interest in a career in the adult industry in what steps they should take next. All I can do is give advice, it's up to them to act upon the advice given and make something of themselves. I think sometimes the girls mistake porn studios for talent agencies and again that goes to their lack of research into the adult industry. On that note, talent agencies are not needed for the adult industry, if a model is too lazy to contact the porn studios themselves (which is all a talent agency would do + take their %) and get worked lined up, perhaps they should just do photoshoots for hobby instead of a career.

[stewmeat]

Where is her site located?

[GroobySteven]

real talk, some of these girls feel exploited. kinda hard knowing the guy who runs the site that needs the girls is a millionaire and these girls get by living suitcase to suitcase. nothing against you my man, just telling you what i've been told recently by some of the more popular chicks from years past. these chicks were around and hot before the whole become your own porn producer/website czar craze started with the girls and now they feel kinda salty that there shit is all out on the internet and they aren't getting anything for it. i know for damn sure sheeba, as yall call her, would feel salty seeing as though how most of her videos are the default video for black shemale bing/google searches.

Get the fuck outta here, "real talk" - there have always been a few wannabe players who think they know the "real talk" - you don't know shit until you've worked in this business.
I've been doing this since 1996, very few of the models have been around since then and we've helped springboard loads of them including Jade, Lisa Kage, Nefertiti, etc. Not saying that some wouldn't have made it on their own but this has definately given them a platform.
I drive a nice car and eat in good restaurants because for every day of those 14+ years, I've worked, and negotiated, and promoted and sold the product. Every model whose worked for us, got a fair pay for the hours she worked (more than GG or Male performers get) and if they failed to capitalise on that, then that's their issue.
Look at models like Natalia, Lovely, Paris, Carmen C., Jade, Wendy W, Amy D, Joanna Jet, etc. who are out there capitalising and promoting themselves.

If someone is bitter because they done a few shoots for us years ago, and then got offered video/photo shoots for other companies on the back of our shoots, then it' their problem that they spent the money and didn't build on it. They would have failed at anything they did - and they love to have a moan about it to, you players.

The real guys and girls know what the REAL TALK is - and what is bullshit.

By the way, girls who do take it upon themselves to promote and interact with us (and thereby helping promote themselves and our company) DO get better treatment from us, than those who do a shoot and then are too lazy to do anything else.

You keep up with your real talk, player!

[werwt22]

From all the girls I talked to, it's a money thing. They dont like the fact that they get paid this "minuscule" amount 1 time and then you get paid every sale you make forever based on their images and clips. At least that's my understanding. There's a couple big names that say they would do some grooby shoots if they were paid more or had some kind of royalties each time the clip or photoset was downloaded.

[GroobySteven]

From all the girls I talked to, it's a money thing. They dont like the fact that they get paid this "minuscule" amount 1 time and then you get paid every sale you make forever based on their images and clips. At least that's my understanding. There's a couple big names that say they would do some grooby shoots if they were paid more or had some kind of royalties each time the clip or photoset was downloaded.

Yaddayaddayadda. What "big names" ?
They get paid well enough for the shoots I don't see it being a miniscule amount. We get memberships each week BUT put up brand new models each week, it's not like we just sit back on wait on the money coming in from their original shoots.

Royalties? For what? For doing nothing, no promotion, no ongoing work? This business can't afford to pay royalties to models, who were paid well in the first shoot.

All this yapping but the top models keep coming back and working for us, because we treat them fairly, we give them multiple shoots over multiple websites, they get exposure to other producers and they get links/promotion opportunities.

The original question was for Sheeba. I haven't seen her go and work for any higher paying non-Grooby companies? Because there aren't any.

YOU GUYS NEED TO UNDERSTAND - IF A MODEL IS COMPLAINING TO YOU ABOUT THE MINISCULE AMOUNT WE PAY HER - SHE'S PLAYING YOU FOR THE USUAL SYMPATHY VOTE/$$ AND TELLING US, WHAT A LOW PAYER OR WANNABE YOU ARE!

Seriously, I've heard this sort of talk for every year we've worked and yet we can still deliver to the models, the members and keep it a viable business.

[werwt22]

Once again I've never paid for ass so that explanation is out. I was just relaying what I've heard from several girls. I didnt say it was right or wrong, thats just how some of them feel.

[bigdicki]

Yaddayaddayadda. What "big names" ?
They get paid well enough for the shoots I don't see it being a miniscule amount. We get memberships each week BUT put up brand new models each week, it's not like we just sit back on wait on the money coming in from their original shoots.

Royalties? For what? For doing nothing, no promotion, no ongoing work? This business can't afford to pay royalties to models, who were paid well in the first shoot.

All this yapping but the top models keep coming back and working for us, because we treat them fairly, we give them multiple shoots over multiple websites, they get exposure to other producers and they get links/promotion opportunities.

The original question was for Sheeba. I haven't seen her go and work for any higher paying non-Grooby companies? Because there aren't any.

YOU GUYS NEED TO UNDERSTAND - IF A MODEL IS COMPLAINING TO YOU ABOUT THE MINISCULE AMOUNT WE PAY HER - SHE'S PLAYING YOU FOR THE USUAL SYMPATHY VOTE/$$ AND TELLING US, WHAT A LOW PAYER OR WANNABE YOU ARE!

Seriously, I've heard this sort of talk for every year we've worked and yet we can still deliver to the models, the members and keep it a viable business.

Although you may have gotten a little too charged up, I AGREE with you. Imagine that huh? :rolleyes:

What these girls who say this are doing is posting on Rude or some of these tube sites that pay the poster a royalty. That's basically crowd-sourcing; similar to what Apple did for iPhone apps or more accurately, what iStock did for photography. Now, let me ask you, do you know of ANYONE who has made themselves rich on an iPhone app or an iStock photograph? You probably don't. Why? Because the "royalties" are usually measured in pennies per download. And, you have as much chance of your stuff getting downloaded as anyone else unless you do your own promotion. So, if these girls want to go that route, godspeed. They still won't make any money for the most part. What they need to do is leverage the platform Grooby (and others) give them and grind the game out until they make something big of themselves. Jada is a perfect positive example of using this as a springboard to her own hustle and as I said before there are others.

[GroobySteven]

Once again I've never paid for ass so that explanation is out. I was just relaying what I've heard from several girls. I didnt say it was right or wrong, thats just how some of them feel.

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I think we're talking about one "bitch" (ahem) and her crew whom I publically caught stealing from her affiliates and outed. Despite trying to reach out to her to some some mutual biz in the past, she obviously, still can't get over it.

Ok bored of this topic ... got to work on tomorrow's update and work on talking to some REAL models who wanna work.

[kilakali]

[QUOTE=werwt22;17451]From all the girls I talked to, it's a money thing. They dont like the fact that they get paid this "minuscule" amount 1 time and then you get paid every sale you make forever based on their images and clips. At least that's my understanding. There's a couple big names that say they would do some grooby shoots if they were paid more or had some kind of royalties each time the clip or photoset was downloaded.QUOTE]

I highly doubt they are BIG NAMES. The big name girls shoot with Grooby Sexxxy Jade, Natassia Dreams. Those are the 2 biggest name in BTG porn. Thats BS with royalties they act like this is some Hollywood sitcom. Its PORN if they were big name girls they would know that already. Their "royalties" are the money they make off the images (from the photoshoot with grooby or any other company) they used on Eros, Backpage..etc. I hear crap like this alll the time from girls with with these divatrocious attitudes.
B.D.B. who i personally know and have respect for as far as she is doing her own business, is far from being classified as "Star" status.

[GroobySteven]

divatrocious


I'm going to use that word, everyday for the next week!

[werwt22]

LMAO damn you'll are salty as a bitch. Musta hit a nerve Haha. Theyre thoughts not mine. And why do you guys keep doubting who I know? Plus I didnt claim to know Jade or Nattassia but they arent the only 2 girls on the planet that everyone knows, i mean come on.

[bigdicki]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :D

I think we're talking about one "bitch" (ahem) and her crew whom I publically caught stealing from her affiliates and outed. Despite trying to reach out to her to some some mutual biz in the past, she obviously, still can't get over it.

Ok bored of this topic ... got to work on tomorrow's update and work on talking to some REAL models who wanna work.

Damn, seriously? How often does this happen (i.e. other sites stealing material)? I am asking for business reasons. Feel free to respond via PM.

[Ms Remy M]

Sadly there are sites of the tube/torrent site variety that outright steals material from pay sites.

I think what he was referring to is the very bad and immoral process of website owners not paying the % owed to the "affiliate" that sends members to said website. I don't even put up links to people suspected of this practice and really, all potential members of those sites should be aware as well. There are some website owners that are willing to steal from their "affiliate partners" and potentially even more damaging is that they also sell members credit card information to other people in the 'crafting trade' (identity theft). So think about 'whom' you are giving your credit card information to. I've heard that they get away with it so easily as members don't want to potentially blow up their own 'DL' status by taking the necessary steps with authorities.

If you notice, I sometimes mention 'Legalities' when talking about porn. It's my subtle rub against those who don't make performers fill out the Legally Required 2257 forms and those who participate in the above practices. The 'crafting' side of this foul practice goes even deeper and can be hard to spot, but that's a conversation for another time.

I'm very big on informed consent, so now you know and knowing is half the battle. :cool: sorry i'm a 80's baby

[kilakali]

LMAO damn you'll are salty as a bitch. Musta hit a nerve Haha. Theyre thoughts not mine. And why do you guys keep doubting who I know? Plus I didnt claim to know Jade or Nattassia but they arent the only 2 girls on the planet that everyone knows, i mean come on.

Ok im going to try to make this as simple as I can...:rolleyes: My point is if these so called BIG NAME girls you claim that you know made those statements. Then they are not big name stars. If they are then they will know that companies like grooby, smc, strokers and others pay the same exact amount per model give or take a few extra dollars , but not enough to make a big deal out of it. Some companies are paying less due to the recession and low membership numbers.
Can you name other "big name" girls in BTG porn outside of Jade and Nat? I have yet to see any other girls with DVD movie credits to their name outside of them right now. Natalia Coxx is the next and quickly rising girl and i personally know she wouldnt make an asinine remark like that.

[mrmister4]

ya just have blow off the "new crowd".....sometimes...they were not around when BTG had only 7 models!!!!!!!yes only seven.......
YOU were lucky to a set for the week......Sheeba's last shoot on BTG was so long ago when she was in the early part of her career.....its so hit and miss in this industry........you just take what you get.....the girls now have more choice
and go other places.....i know a few who model R rated photos or tour the clubs across america and the world...."count what you have..not what you do not have"

BTG you are doing a great job...:cool:this was for senachi

[TICOFURY22]

There are some website owners that are willing to steal from their "affiliate partners" and potentially even more damaging is that they also sell members credit card information to other people in the 'crafting trade' (identity theft). So think about 'whom' you are giving your credit card information to. I've heard that they get away with it so easily as members don't want to potentially blow up their own 'DL' status by taking the necessary steps with authorities.



THAT'S FOUL TO THE HIGHEST DEGREE .. I wish you could give us a heads up
on who doing that ..
That's why I stayed married to visa gift cards
instead of using real debit/ credit

[Ms Remy M]

you've got the right idea, always protect yourself in your online shopping ventures, and read reviews from sites like Rabbit Reviews. I think if a site isn't willing to put itself up for public review from an impartial source than that says a lot too.