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Koanbred
06-13-2010, 05:17 PM
The last thread that I began, ended with a question that caused me to think of this question:

"Are tranny chasers, gay?"

Since gay means, homosexual and homosexual means, "members of the same species attracted to other members of that species with the same physical sex", most tranny chasers could appropriately be called "gay" as well as their "transgender women" who still have a penis.

After further introspection, we discover that we really are even more attracted to the "Pre-op" transsexuals, than the "Post-op" transsexuals! That could possibly give rise to even greater suspicion about our "gayness".

I've grappled with this concept in the pass and finally had to eventually admit that I'm at least bisexual, if not "gay". After admitting it, I felt so much better after the next few years. It seemed to have released so much pressure. Of course, we all have to find our own way and perhaps this is not a word that you'd like to use in reference to yourselves. Hey, but that's ok! We'll all find our paths in due time.

We all have a right to see ourselves as we prefer to see ourselves, but the "bottom" line is that we are defined by society and its chosen vernacular utilized to sculpt the image that is easiest for it to see. Usually, these images are restricted to categories which confine the individual within the limits of the definitions, themselves.

DrDickenstein
06-13-2010, 06:20 PM
Individuals aren't defined by society. Society labels individuals. And as has been discussed many times before, don't get hung up on the labels or the need to label or be labeled. Individuals define themselves. Be happy with ur choices, ur life and urself....and thumb ur nose at society and the ridiculous obsession with labels.

PS. Your definition is a lil off bruh. We're all the same SPECIES....same/opposite SEX is the lynchpin. The different species thing...yah...check the forum down the hall. ;) lol

kilakali
06-13-2010, 06:49 PM
Individuals aren't defined by society. Society labels individuals. And as has been discussed many times before, don't get hung up on the labels or the need to label or be labeled. Individuals define themselves. Be happy with ur choices, ur life and urself....and thumb ur nose at society and the ridiculous obsession with labels.

PS. Your definition is a lil off bruh. We're all the same SPECIES....same/opposite SEX is the lynchpin. The different species thing...yah...check the forum down the hall. ;) lol

As one famous person said "labels are for clothes".

Dixie Normous
06-13-2010, 06:54 PM
The last thread that I began, ended with a question that caused me to think of this question:

"Are tranny chasers, gay?"

Since gay means, homosexual and homosexual means, "members of the same species attracted to other members of that species with the same physical sex", most tranny chasers could appropriately be called "gay" as well as their "transgender women" who still have a penis.

Well, if some do consider themselves gay and would like to change their spots, there's hope! Homosexuality CAN be cured. I can turn even the most flaming homosexual patient into a roaring heterosexual if they're willing to endure my miracle cure, which involves no more than a small, locked, pitch-black closet, a few cases of moth-balls, a couple of sturdy 2 X 4s, a hammer, some nails, and time, and it can be done right in their own home as an inpatient! :)

Most go into the closet as Bo Derek, and emerge as Bo Diddley, or they don't emerge at all! :eek:

Dixie Normous
06-13-2010, 06:57 PM
As one famous person said "labels are for clothes".


.. you labeled me as cheap!

http://photospace.com/images/sad-emoto.jpg

Koanbred
06-13-2010, 07:47 PM
Yo Bro, I never said anything about different species...Of course, we're all the same species!

What chu readin'! LOL

Love,
Koanbred

Koanbred
06-13-2010, 07:50 PM
I must admit, you had me going for awhile until I finally began to uncontrollably crack-up, laughing!

That was a pretty good cure! LOL

Dixie Normous
06-13-2010, 07:59 PM
I must admit, you had me going for awhile until I finally began to uncontrollably crack-up, laughing!

That was a pretty good cure! LOL

Sadly, I can't take credit for it. The Romanians originated it, about 150 years ago! :(

Before that far more humane remedy, they used crucifixes, stakes, and silver bullets! :eek:

DrDickenstein
06-13-2010, 08:08 PM
The last thread that I began, ended with a question that caused me to think of this question:

"Are tranny chasers, gay?"

Since gay means, homosexual and homosexual means, "members of the same species attracted to other members of that species with the same physical sex", most tranny chasers could appropriately be called "gay" as well as their "transgender women" who still have a penis.

After further introspection, we discover that we really are even more attracted to the "Pre-op" transsexuals, than the "Post-op" transsexuals! That could possibly give rise to even greater suspicion about our "gayness".

I've grappled with this concept in the pass and finally had to eventually admit that I'm at least bisexual, if not "gay". After admitting it, I felt so much better after the next few years. It seemed to have released so much pressure. Of course, we all have to find our own way and perhaps this is not a word that you'd like to use in reference to yourselves. Hey, but that's ok! We'll all find our paths in due time.

We all have a right to see ourselves as we prefer to see ourselves, but the "bottom" line is that we are defined by society and its chosen vernacular utilized to sculpt the image that is easiest for it to see. Usually, these images are restricted to categories which confine the individual within the limits of the definitions, themselves.

That's what I was reading....my bad, I missed the "with the same physical sex" part. lol oops

TVSURFER
06-14-2010, 03:44 AM
Well, if some do consider themselves gay and would like to change their spots, there's hope! Homosexuality CAN be cured. I can turn even the most flaming homosexual patient into a roaring heterosexual if they're willing to endure my miracle cure, which involves no more than a small, locked, pitch-black closet, a few cases of moth-balls, a couple of sturdy 2 X 4s, a hammer, some nails, and time, and it can be done right in their own home as an inpatient! :)

Most go into the closet as Bo Derek, and emerge as Bo Diddley, or they don't emerge at all! :eek:
You would have been quite a grunt at Guantanamo working under our ex president and vice prresident! That shit you're prescribing is outright torture! It smacks of the policies of an unbalanced house painter who established The Third Reich in Germany! What makes it equally as bad, it's against gay people! And why would anyone want to cure homosexuality? Who's next, people with cleft paletes? Do you think this is funny? And say, aren't you the guy that is hell bent on marrying a t-girl, whose "wienerschnitzel" might be bigger than yours? Er, Normous?



Sadly, I can't take credit for it. The Romanians originated it, about 150 years ago! :(

Before that far more humane remedy, they used crucifixes, stakes, and silver bullets! :eek:

Oh, and that justifies your home remedy of torturing another human being!
The Ku Klux Klan burned crosses in from of minorities homes, and lynched people over 150 years to this present day, did that cure segregation or changed people's behavior to be equal?
I would have felt better about your post if you said you had a potion of eye of newt, bat wings and steroids, which you quite aptly put together. But torture to cure human behavior, is a prescription for you to be fitted for a new wardrobe; the sleeves are fastened in the back! I think you overstepped the boundray to find levity.
:cool:

Dixie Normous
06-14-2010, 04:40 AM
And why would anyone want to cure homosexuality?

:cool:

It's the parents who hire me to deprogram their misguided progeny! :)

Dixie Normous
06-14-2010, 04:41 AM
Do you think this is funny?

What do you think, Don Quixote?


http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-0702-2316-5906_Man_Laughing_Har!_Har!_Har!_clipart_image.jpg

Ms Remy M
06-14-2010, 10:51 PM
I've grappled with this concept in the pass and finally had to eventually admit that I'm at least bisexual, if not "gay". After admitting it, I felt so much better after the next few years. It seemed to have released so much pressure. Of course, we all have to find our own way and perhaps this is not a word that you'd like to use in reference to yourselves. Hey, but that's ok! We'll all find our paths in due time.

We all have a right to see ourselves as we prefer to see ourselves, but the "bottom" line is that we are defined by society and its chosen vernacular utilized to sculpt the image that is easiest for it to see. Usually, these images are restricted to categories which confine the individual within the limits of the definitions, themselves.

For me it was similar, I decided to be ok with being 'Bi' being that I like tgirls and genetic girls. However; I'm far from being defined by society, and like others have stated suggest you don't fret 'labels' and what people may prescribe you to be. We only have one life, averaging around 80 years so enjoy whatever it is you like (so long as not hurting or interfering in others freedoms) and damn what anyone may have to say on the matter

Ms Remy M
06-14-2010, 10:56 PM
Well, if some do consider themselves gay and would like to change their spots, there's hope! Homosexuality CAN be cured. I can turn even the most flaming homosexual patient into a roaring heterosexual if they're willing to endure my miracle cure, which involves no more than a small, locked, pitch-black closet, a few cases of moth-balls, a couple of sturdy 2 X 4s, a hammer, some nails, and time, and it can be done right in their own home as an inpatient! :)

Most go into the closet as Bo Derek, and emerge as Bo Diddley, or they don't emerge at all! :eek:

eh, I'm sure you'll try to claim being 'humorous'. However; your rethoric sounds like bigotry lurking beneath the surface. Did you have a Billy Graham/Pat Roberson/Tim LaHey cocktail before posting this crap.

I agree with TVSurfer, your statement has no more place here than a Holocaust joke at a Bar Mitzah.

Dixie Normous
06-14-2010, 11:41 PM
eh, I'm sure you'll try to claim being 'humorous'. However; your rethoric sounds like bigotry lurking beneath the surface. Did you have a Billy Graham/Pat Roberson/Tim LaHey cocktail before posting this crap.

I agree with TVSurfer, your statement has no more place here than a Holocaust joke at a Bar Mitzah.

For you:

http://lecramsblog.com/uploaded_images/sense_of_humor-762713.jpg

Koanbred
06-19-2010, 10:48 AM
Seriously though Dixie!

If you are attracted to a T-girl, chances are that you do have homosexual tendencies. This is especially true, if you find the pre-ops more attractive than the post-ops. Hey! You've already joined the club, now take advantage of the fringe benefits without shame!

Welcome to just another component of the LGBT family!

PS.

I was wondering why you reverted to humor instead of addressing the actual issue. Don't sweat it Bro, I was once there too!

Dixie Normous
06-19-2010, 06:11 PM
Seriously though Dixie!

If you are attracted to a T-girl, chances are that you do have homosexual tendencies. This is especially true, if you find the pre-ops more attractive than the post-ops. Hey! You've already joined the club, now take advantage of the fringe benefits without shame!

Welcome to just another component of the LGBT family!

PS.

I was wondering why you reverted to humor instead of addressing the actual issue. Don't sweat it Bro, I was once there too!


I seriously doubt I'm gay because I find something that looks like an attractive woman, attractive.
I'm attracted to the PASSABLE ones like Nastassia Dreams, that look like a real woman. I'm not attracted to the 7 footers, and the ones with MAN-faces, built like linebackers with no wasitlines, and the ones with flat chests.
Gay men all share the love of smuggling the old sauseege in their rosy red, aids infested rectums.
No man or man that looks like a woman, has ever been near my rectum, aside from my MD, nor will they ever, and just the idea of filling my rectum with a whang is gut-churning.

Take all the femininity away from a T-Girl, and I have no interest, which is why I only find the more petite PASSABLE ones attractive, as they echo my taste IN WOMEN.
If the illusion of total femininity isn't there, I'm not attracted.
And I'm not attracted to post-op, placebo, pseudo-women with artificial vaginas.

Ms Remy M
06-19-2010, 08:25 PM
I seriously doubt I'm gay because I find something that looks like an attractive woman, attractive...
...If the illusion of total femininity isn't there, I'm not attracted.
And I'm not attracted to post-op, placebo, pseudo-women with artificial vaginas.

Nope, you're just attracted to the ones with a penis. :cool:

Dixie Normous
06-19-2010, 08:29 PM
Nope, you're just attracted to the ones with a penis. :cool:

Whenever I consider that you may not be as insipid as I think you are, you renew my faith in you with posts like this. :)

Buddy Wood
06-19-2010, 10:25 PM
This question really has come up many many times on different forums and I've been studying the topic for years now...

The answer is no.

If you have to ask the question or think about it...then maybe. If you run home and have sex with your male roomate after chasing trannies...then yeah probably.

Too many black & whites and defined lines will drive u fuckin' nuts. Especially in this scene. Lots of greys in sexuality. Guys who love to bottom...doesn't nesessarily mean they're attracted to the same sex. I mean is it gayer to like your ass stimulated during sex by a hot girl with a penis or to walk down the street and check out dudes in jean shorts and think about it?? Whose the fucking judge? Maybe I should be.

When I walk down the street I look at women. When I think of hot sex...I picture a hot girl and the female form with a nice ass. Do I mind if there's a penis attached?? Nope. I got a penis. I like my penis a whole bunch. Touch it all the time. As long as I'm still attracted to the femininty of that girl I'm with...I'm good. She worked hard to achieve that, is usually more willing to share it and I can appreciate it more.

I don't see how being EXTREMELY attracted to the female form and open minded enough to know that a ts can take that femininity to even higher grounds (most times more than a gg) can make you homosexual...and if people do need those black & white definitions...fuck it then I'm a flaming faggy superduper homo!!!

Dixie Normous
06-19-2010, 10:43 PM
Whose the fucking judge? Maybe I should be.



Not yet you can't be the judge!! You're a newbie! You have less than 50 posts, fresh fish!

so, welcome to the forums, Newbie!

http://www.lab-retriever.net/board/images/smilies/welcomewagon.gif

:D

DYNACORD
06-19-2010, 11:35 PM
Not yet you can't be the judge!! You're a newbie! You have less than 50 posts, fresh fish!

so, welcome to the forums, Newbie!

http://www.lab-retriever.net/board/images/smilies/welcomewagon.gif

:D

Slow down Dixi. I think maybe you need to go to this mans website. He could be the "Supreme Court Shemale" Judge.

http://www.buddywood.com/

Buddy Wood
06-19-2010, 11:45 PM
Uhhhh yeah I guess. I don't post a lot. Usually cuz I'm busy chasing trannys and shooting porn with them for this and other Grooby sites. So does chasing and shooting trannys for a living for many years give me any sort of clout or experience as a "chaser"? lol. I dunno. Maybe not. Am I a professional tranny chaser??? I never thought of that.

Anyway my point really was...I think it's silly to pigeon-hole or to define something that there really is no definition for...yet. Too many guys base it all on what society thinks. Maybe that got lost in my rant.

I feel pretty gay now for talking about it this much

DYNACORD
06-19-2010, 11:45 PM
Ya know:::I've been asked this question by some of my TGirl friends and Lovers. I say NO! Same reasons as listed by the others on here. I'm not interested in guys/male bodies. I like the Female form with the extra parts. And my lovers like that I do. That would only make sense.

I haven't seen this mentioned:::My guy friends who know me, know that I like TGirls. Not "CrossDressers" and not boys. THEY DO NOT CONSIDER ME GAY. That's what's up! I don't go out of my way to prove this to them, it's just the way they see it. I'm fine with whatever anyone thinks. That's the way it should be.

DYNACORD
06-19-2010, 11:51 PM
I feel pretty gay now for talking about it this much


LMAO! That's was funny.

It looks like Dixi is not aquainted with all the real "Players" in this TGirl game.

DYNACORD
06-19-2010, 11:59 PM
Gay men all share the love of smuggling the old sauseege in their rosy red, aids infested rectums.


Man, I've read all your post's and responces. But, this sentence is just not "FUCKIN RIGHT" for more reasons than one. You need to reconsider where you are and to whom your comments are being read by.
The word "OFFENSIVE" comes to mind.

Please Think about what you say. That's all I'm saying.

Koanbred
06-20-2010, 12:28 AM
I'm tellin' yall right now! Most of yall is lying! You're lying and you're lying like doggs!

I say this because of the following:

1) Most of you know damn well that you're totally attracted to pre-ops.
Pre-ops have dicks and usually, the bigger the dick, the better.

2) Most of you would prefer to come into physical contact with the penis as you are screwing the T-girl. It really doesn't matter if you're just touching it with your hand, sucking it, or taking it from behind. The fact remains that you enjoy the penis somehow. This within itself, indicates homosexual tendencies.

3) If this site contained nothing but GG's and post-ops, almost none of you would be here.

4) I posted a commentary on "Dominic vs. Chante" a few days ago. A few people indicated that they thought that Dominic, a masculine-looking version of Chante, was sexually attractive.

5) Take a look at the male version of Chante, this guy named "Dominic" and read the comments that subscribers have left behind. Most of them, really find this guy sexually attractive. Now don't get me twisted, the beautiful Chante is freaking HOT!!! However, the jury is still out on Dominic and probably won't be returning for a public verdict.

PS.

Let's just face it yall! We're all gay to some degree! We could give less than a puck about being with a post-op in most cases! Only Pre-ops Need Apply!

kilakali
06-20-2010, 12:58 AM
Not yet you can't be the judge!! You're a newbie! You have less than 50 posts, fresh fish!

so, welcome to the forums, Newbie!

http://www.lab-retriever.net/board/images/smilies/welcomewagon.gif

:D

Another useless comment *prays for the hammer to drop*.

kilakali
06-20-2010, 01:10 AM
I'm tellin' yall right now! Most of yall is lying! You're lying and you're lying like doggs!

I say this because of the following:

1) Most of you know damn well that you're totally attracted to pre-ops.
Pre-ops have dicks and usually, the bigger the dick, the better.

2) Most of you would prefer to come into physical contact with the penis as you are screwing the T-girl. It really doesn't matter if you're just touching it with your hand, sucking it, or taking it from behind. The fact remains that you enjoy the penis somehow. This within itself, indicates homosexual tendencies.

3) If this site contained nothing but GG's and post-ops, almost none of you would be here.

4) I posted a commentary on "Dominic vs. Chante" a few days ago. A few people indicated that they thought that Dominic, a masculine-looking version of Chante, was sexually attractive.

5) Take a look at the male version of Chante, this guy named "Dominic" and read the comments that subscribers have left behind. Most of them, really find this guy sexually attractive. Now don't get me twisted, the beautiful Chante is freaking HOT!!! However, the jury is still out on Dominic and probably won't be returning for a public verdict.

PS.

Let's just face it yall! We're all gay to some degree! We could give less than a puck about being with a post-op in most cases! Only Pre-ops Need Apply!

Thats because all the negative comments were removed. I remember when that set first came up most were negative...

Dixie Normous
06-20-2010, 01:52 AM
Slow down Dixi. I think maybe you need to go to this mans website. He could be the "Supreme Court Shemale" Judge.

http://www.buddywood.com/

http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0408/BOYImage3.jpg

Dixie Normous
06-20-2010, 01:55 AM
I think it's silly to pigeon-hole or to define something that there really is no definition for...yet.

Buddy, all pigeon-holing is silly, unless you're a pigeon! :D

http://mentalfloss.cachefly.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/PigeonBomber.jpg

phi0820
06-20-2010, 06:27 AM
I'm tellin' yall right now! Most of yall is lying! You're lying and you're lying like doggs!

I say this because of the following:

1) Most of you know damn well that you're totally attracted to pre-ops.
Pre-ops have dicks and usually, the bigger the dick, the better.

2) Most of you would prefer to come into physical contact with the penis as you are screwing the T-girl. It really doesn't matter if you're just touching it with your hand, sucking it, or taking it from behind. The fact remains that you enjoy the penis somehow. This within itself, indicates homosexual tendencies.

3) If this site contained nothing but GG's and post-ops, almost none of you would be here.

4) I posted a commentary on "Dominic vs. Chante" a few days ago. A few people indicated that they thought that Dominic, a masculine-looking version of Chante, was sexually attractive.

5) Take a look at the male version of Chante, this guy named "Dominic" and read the comments that subscribers have left behind. Most of them, really find this guy sexually attractive. Now don't get me twisted, the beautiful Chante is freaking HOT!!! However, the jury is still out on Dominic and probably won't be returning for a public verdict.

PS.

Let's just face it yall! We're all gay to some degree! We could give less than a puck about being with a post-op in most cases! Only Pre-ops Need Apply!

#3 made me laugh. If I signed up for a Black T-Girl site and got nothing but GG's, I'd feel pretty fucking ripped off, so yeah I definitely wouldn't be here...just as I'd be pissed if the black GG site I recently joined had nothing but white chicks on it...or if I joined a muscle girl site that had nothing but T-girls...

And I hate it when folks throw post-ops in the middle of these 'who's gay' conversations because the majority of people I've known that are into t-girls also like GG's and--especially--pussy. I'm struggling for a way to say this the doesn't offend any post-ops, but if we really need to measure a person's sexuality, I'd think a person's interest in the genetic female's anatomy is a better measuring point than the post-op's.

Even the interest in a t-girl's penis doesn't definitively prove anything. If the more masculine Dominic was really a GG and I found her attractive, would that make me gay? Or as somebody who loves eating pussy, what if I got with a Buck Angel-type FTM transsexual? Would I somehow be more straight than the guy that's attracted to the typical MTF t-girls that we're used to?

I think Buddy said it best: there's way too much to consider when figuring out we like the stuff we like that you can't just dump everybody in one of two boxes. And at the end of the day, it's really not important enough to try.

DYNACORD
06-20-2010, 07:08 AM
#3 made me laugh. If I signed up for a Black T-Girl site and got nothing but GG's, I'd feel pretty fucking ripped off, so yeah I definitely wouldn't be here...just as I'd be pissed if the black GG site I recently joined had nothing but white chicks on it...or if I joined a muscle girl site that had nothing but T-girls...

And I hate it when folks throw post-ops in the middle of these 'who's gay' conversations because the majority of people I've known that are into t-girls also like GG's and--especially--pussy. I'm struggling for a way to say this the doesn't offend any post-ops, but if we really need to measure a person's sexuality, I'd think a person's interest in the genetic female's anatomy is a better measuring point than the post-op's.

Even the interest in a t-girl's penis doesn't definitively prove anything. If the more masculine Dominic was really a GG and I found her attractive, would that make me gay? Or as somebody who loves eating pussy, what if I got with a Buck Angel-type FTM transsexual? Would I somehow be more straight than the guy that's attracted to the typical MTF t-girls that we're used to?

I think Buddy said it best: there's way too much to consider when figuring out we like the stuff we like that you can't just dump everybody in one of two boxes. And at the end of the day, it's really not important enough to try.

All good points. We shouldn't care what people try to label each other:::but we do, in some sort of way.

Koanbred
06-20-2010, 08:57 AM
For many millenia men have had sex with men and women have had sex with women. There are many different types of gender-sex combinations involved in the medley of the sex act, itself.

For many men, the act of having sex with another man is unthinkable, no matter which package in which it presents itself. I've personally witnessed a friend who was approached by a blantant homosexual who physically touched his groin area and he not only tried to physically attack the guy, he became physically ill, afterwards. He is a true heterosexual! He was actually repulsed to the point of vomiting! If something like that were to happen to me, I wouldn't come close to reacting that way. I would feel insulted if I were publicly assaulted sexually in any manner. However, I would not try to physically beat the person down and I most certainly wouldn't have it in me to vomit.

Effeminate acting guys who really look like guys, turn me off. However, effeminate acting guys who really look like girls, turn me on. This fact does not in any way release me from any charge of homosexuality, because I know that deep down inside, I am attracted to the penis of a "pretty" male.
It's really kind of strange because, I'm one of those men who really is not turned on by watching the T-girls penis during a photo shoot or a video. I would prefer to see her pretty face, a$$, and breasts. I really only want to get a glimpse of the penis just to somehow subconsciously remind me that it's really there.

However during sex, I enjoy physical contact with the penis of the T-girl.
While I would never be a bottom, since I am an incorrigible top, I do become quite obcessed with the penis after screwing the T-girl. Though, I would feel completely out of place doing what I do to a regular guy. I am still involved with the penis during sex and if I knew that she didn't have one, I would become absolutely disinterested. This type of attraction to a member of the same sex (not gender), is a type of homosexual attraction. I am therefore, unabashedly claiming ownership of the label homosexual or gay. There, I've embraced it, I own it, and I am no less of a person or man for doing so.

I am still a man, just like most gay men are really men. I will still defend my turf with possibly greater vigor and ferosity than most heterosexuals. I will have no compunction about your consequences if you tread upon me or mine. I am a devout and trusted friend, if I'm your friend. I am a completely defiant and relentless nemesis of yours, if I'm your enemy.

I attempt to be a gentleman at all times. However, sometimes you just gotta get ghetto wit a sucka! There's no question that I'm a man! Nobody questions that fact about me! However, I am gay. I am gay because I am attracted to effeminate males who both look like and want to be like females. They really are female insofar as gender is concerned, but NOT sex. Sexually speaking, they are not genetic females. If I were attracted to masculine males who strived to both look and act more masculine, I would still be just as gay. Gay means homosexual, and that's what we are if we are attracted to pre-op T-girls.

I've found that the older that I become, the less I am attracted to GG's, and the more I am attracted to pre-ops. I have a friend who feels the same way. As time progresses, homosexuality becomes a greater possibility and bisexuality begins to fade.

peggygee
06-20-2010, 10:25 AM
Another useless comment *prays for the hammer to drop*.

Ditto

http://ui30.gamespot.com/2173/banhammer_2.gif

Koanbred
06-20-2010, 10:40 AM
As Joe Friday would say, "Nothing but the facts, mam!"

Love,
Koanbred

Dixie Normous
06-20-2010, 04:40 PM
Another useless comment *prays for the hammer to drop*.

This may help to temporarily alleviate that perpetual scowl:

http://www.parents-choice.org/article_img/takeparents_monkey.jpg

Dixie Normous
06-20-2010, 04:44 PM
Ditto

http://ui30.gamespot.com/2173/banhammer_2.gif

So are you intolerant of people in general, or just intolerant of folks smart enough not to agree with you?

http://loot-ninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/censorship.jpg

Koanbred
06-21-2010, 09:35 AM
The fact that I alluded to men who are attracted to pre-ops, being gay, I can see how that might be offensive. I can also see how it might be offensive to both the men (who want to continue to see themselves as straight) and their T-girl bottoms, who would like to see themselves as women.

Therefore, if I have offended you, I do apologize at this time.

Love,
Koanbred

Sparky Snakeden
06-21-2010, 10:34 PM
I know i'm a newbie on here but thought this might help.

I'm a Gay Man that works for shemale porn. i am around the girls and talk to them everyday for work or for plain fun, but i am not interested in there dick and i don't want to have sex with them. I might be a little Bi, and i just want one or the other, I kinda always thought mixing the two genders together would be ideal but it doesn't work for me, i don't know why and i'm sure it's the same for most guys, you just know what you like, so why put a name on it? It would be in the same ignorant sense that someone would say a drag queen and a tranny are the same thing. Thats why there is someone for everybody!

A few weeks ago Mr. Buddy Wood re introduced me to a tgirl that i fucked years ago when she was a he and i still don't know how i feel about it. but i'm not going to take the title of tranny chaser now because of it. just my thought hope it doesn't cause issues, i'm new on here still so be nice!

thanx
Sparky

Wilson
06-21-2010, 11:12 PM
I know i'm a newbie on here but thought this might help.

I'm a Gay Man that works for shemale porn. Sparky

http://derbyimages.woot.com/humps411/Seafaring_Cast_Away-2e5hrl-d.jpg

Sparky Snakeden
06-22-2010, 12:29 AM
http://derbyimages.woot.com/humps411/Seafaring_Cast_Away-2e5hrl-d.jpg

i don't get it wtf is that? a pirate vollyball with a hand print of shit for a face or did you just slap me in the face?

nycguy
06-22-2010, 01:04 PM
i don't get it wtf is that? a pirate vollyball with a hand print of shit for a face or did you just slap me in the face?

He was having fun taking your post out of context.

nycguy
06-22-2010, 01:18 PM
Effeminate acting guys who really look like guys, turn me off. However, effeminate acting guys who really look like girls, turn me on. This fact does not in any way release me from any charge of homosexuality, because I know that deep down inside, I am attracted to the penis of a "pretty" male.
It's really kind of strange because, I'm one of those men who really is not turned on by watching the T-girls penis during a photo shoot or a video. I would prefer to see her pretty face, a$$, and breasts. I really only want to get a glimpse of the penis just to somehow subconsciously remind me that it's really there.

However during sex, I enjoy physical contact with the penis of the T-girl.
While I would never be a bottom, since I am an incorrigible top, I do become quite obcessed with the penis after screwing the T-girl. Though, I would feel completely out of place doing what I do to a regular guy. I am still involved with the penis during sex and if I knew that she didn't have one, I would become absolutely disinterested. This type of attraction to a member of the same sex (not gender), is a type of homosexual attraction. I am therefore, unabashedly claiming ownership of the label homosexual or gay. There, I've embraced it, I own it, and I am no less of a person or man for doing so.

I am gay because I am attracted to effeminate males who both look like and want to be like females. They really are female insofar as gender is concerned, but NOT sex. Sexually speaking, they are not genetic females. If I were attracted to masculine males who strived to both look and act more masculine, I would still be just as gay. Gay means homosexual, and that's what we are if we are attracted to pre-op T-girls.


Your leaving out those who may have an unrealized penis fetish from your equation. There are some on this forum who stated they did not know why they had the "fascination" for this type, a word in itself that lends it to fetish. The penis is objectified in all of us from our first taste of porn. How we de-code the message of the penis plays a part in defining how we see sexuality, but I dont think it defines us totally. My definition of homosexuality is being attracted to someone of the same sexual presence. I say this because biologically males and femals are almost too close to call. We are not completely different species, it's a flip of a switch that determines every difference. There are men with breasts, and hips. There are woman with beards and long clits. but what we see as a man is clearly definable. I am not attracted to that definition, despite how I may feel about a penis.

Ms Remy M
06-22-2010, 01:43 PM
Your leaving out those who may have an unrealized penis fetish from your equation. There are some on this forum who stated they did not know why they had the "fascination" for this type, a word in itself that lends it to fetish. The penis is objectified in all of us from our first taste of porn. How we de-code the message of the penis plays a part in defining how we see sexuality, but I dont think it defines us totally. My definition of homosexuality is being attracted to someone of the same sexual presence. I say this because biologically males and femals are almost too close to call. We are not completely different species, it's a flip of a switch that determines every difference. There are men with breasts, and hips. There are woman with beards and long clits. but what we see as a man is clearly definable. I am not attracted to that definition, despite how I may feel about a penis.

Good response.