Are you a tranny chaser? YOU GAY.

[KitWilkins]

So this Jia woman took my comments from her wall and made a discussion topic about them.
http://missjia.com/open-discussion-men-attracted-transexuals-gay.html/comment-page-1#comment-136700

Everyone's trying to say men who fuck trannies are gay. Please please please correct them with me.

[MJChica]

Was it necessary for you to say "Jia woman?"

When I responded to you on Youtube, I was VERY polite in my response.

I gave my opinion and even let you know that I was going to do a topic on the very issue that you brought to my attention.

It was never meant to be disrespectful, yet you're on the forum "disrespecting" me by referring to me as "Jia woman."

A simple link to the blog would've sufficed. If respect is given, am I wrong for expecting the same? Just curious.....


"Jia Woman"

[TSSexyChanel]

So this Jia woman took my comments from her wall and made a discussion topic about them.
http://missjia.com/open-discussion-men-attracted-transexuals-gay.html/comment-page-1#comment-136700

Everyone's trying to say men who fuck trannies are gay. Please please please correct them with me.

I personally know Jia and I know for a fact that she only speaks the facts. I am not one for labels myself. But as many men here will state just as they did when discussing your prior post at one time you had to deal with identifying as a man they never want that turned around on them.

In my personal opinion even if a man is a total top there is some degree of bisexuality there because there are genetic women that can rival any transexual so the her ass so big or them titties or she so fine and passable argument goes out the window with me cause the reality of the situation is when she gets butt naked there is a dick there even if you give it cute names like a clitty or shenis its basically the same anatomy that you possess

I just hope I live long enough to see the day that men that do date and enjoy transexuals sexually can just say yes this is what I do and so what.

But yeah Jia is a big supporter of the LBGT Community and transexuals especially there is never any shade when it comes to her just the truth and some times the truth hurts

[KitWilkins]

Well me referring to you as "Jia woman" is pretty mucht he same as you insinuating that I"m a man. So we're even.


And if you couldn't pick up on this, this is less about you and more about the people that commented on the topic. I dont disagree with what you did as far as posting my comments and yes, you were very polite. I guess you dont quite understand how offensive it is t insinuate that men that sleep with transsexuas are homosexual

[MJChica]

Well me referring to you as "Jia woman" is pretty mucht he same as you insinuating that I"m a man. So we're even.


And if you couldn't pick up on this, this is less about you and more about the people that commented on the topic. I dont disagree with what you did as far as posting my comments and yes, you were very polite. I guess you dont quite understand how offensive it is t insinuate that men that sleep with transsexuas are homosexual

I guess.

Good day.

[TSSexyChanel]

I also love when there is an issue with comes up between gentic women and transexuals that men are given a free pass

Some of the same men you are directing this post to are the same DL men that cause tension and rifts between us and genetic women.

It's their lies and games and running back and forth between us and genetic women and not being honest about it that has a lot of women looking at us as man stealing whores who will do anything to turn "straight men " out.

At the end of the day Jia is a blogger and an activist and all things posted on her site vids etc are totally the opinions of her own but I can say this she has opened more dialogue and gotten more understanding and support for us than people who are actually apart of the community.

People need to learn to live their truths I feel any one you are sleeping with is privy to what you are doing sexually with others you are not entitled to have a separate life apart from me especially if we are in a committed relationship

That is beyond selfish

[KitWilkins]

I understand there are people here who have ties to Jia and this post was not in any way shape or form an attempt to target her at all. This was me trying to get the other side of the story. Most of the people that are posting in response are not straight identifying men who are interested in transsexuals. And they are the topic of conversation.

I personally dont really understand how one can be a supporter of transsexuals when they associate them with their previous gender. Maybe I"m confused, but I'm a woman all day every day and the only time i was ever involved with men that called themselves gay was when I foolishly called myself gay. Maybe I feel very strongly about my gender and my gender identity. I've met some tgirls who refuse to see themselves as totally female, and thats fine. I definatley do however. And I know from my own personal experience that most men who deal with transsexuals arent gay. That doesn't even make....sense... But if you believe a man sleeping with you is a homosexual then that's on you. I dont want to dictate anyone's sexuality here, but i'm almost positive that A. No tranny chaser will agree that he is homosexual for sleeping with a transsexual woman and that B.No gay man is going to be interested in a trans woman.


I'm just doing the same thing she did to me. No shade to her at all in the slightest. She presented her opinions in the way she presented them and that's fine people believe different things. However, if shes got a right to say her piece s do I. And again, I am not attacking her. Just trying to get the trans attracted mans point of view. Hey maybe they'll come forward and say they're gay.

[TSSexyChanel]

I personally don't feel we have a former gender we always were what we are and will be which is transgendered. Even though I was raised a boy and transitioned as a teen and lived successfully as a woman since I was 17 full time I never felt male or female I am truly transgender a delicate blend of the two socially accepted genders. As transpersons or two spirit people I feel its up to us to educate the world that life is not so black and white and especially when it comes to gender. And please don't feel my statements to you here are attacks. I don't know if you know who I am but everyone will tell you I am the one that will provoke debate and try to get people to see things from another persons point of view.

Welcome to the forum its great to have some fresh blood up in here

[MJChica]

Very interesting dialogue....

[onone]

But yeah Jia is a big supporter of the LBGT Community and transexuals especially there is never any shade when it comes to her just the truth and some times the truth hurts [/COLOR][/B]

I think she just steals yall energy like Wendy Williams in order to make her thing interesting. Miss Jia was a pretty decent hardcore porno chick named Kina Kara. She rarely talks about that and makes it seem like a bad coke induced chapter in her life.

[cumshooter69]

In my personal opinion even if a man is a total top there is some degree of bisexuality

I think this statement says all that needs to be said. I'm proud of who I am and don't care about labels, but if I had to choose one Bisexual would be it.

[TSSexyChanel]

I think this statement says all that needs to be said. I'm proud of who I am and don't care about labels, but if I had to choose one Bisexual would be it.

You will be one of the few people who will enjoy appreciate and understand the youtube video I am making today then. LOL

[TSSexyChanel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYoWl4_h-s8

[kanguru]

I used to swear up and down I wasn't "gay" for liking trannies. I think I noted my story about this on a similar topic on here, but I'll recap it again for those who don't remember. Basically, I started looking at the genre in 2002 while I was still in high school. I enjoyed the feminine parts t-girls had, like soft lips, breasts, the booty/curves, etc... But when I saw their cocks I used to act like they weren't there. I was afraid I was visually attracted to their penises, and that, in turn, would make me "gay".

It wasn't until around 2008 I figured out I loved their cock as much, if not more, than everything else on their bodies. I came to terms with it, but I never really thought of myself as gay.. Just because if I was gay, I'd be looking at gay porn, and not TS porn. Plain and simple. The truth of the matter is, gay porn makes me dry heave. Two sweaty men on top of each other is just repulsive as all hell to me and I don't like it. I would call myself straight for the longest because of that fact.

But, again, I had a revealation just a few days ago. I'm more or less "Bi" than straight. I would consider transgendered women their own class than fully female or fully male. So, since I enjoy both real girls and ts girls, I'm Bi. But if I go off announcing I'm Bi to everyone else they'd think I like girls and men, which isn't the case, so I stick to claiming I am straight.

Personally, I don't even care about telling ppl I like t-girls. Who cares. The ones I wank to I'm sure most hella-straight men would get hard ons just by looking at. I just got over my stupid fears of what other folks would think or what this "makes me" label wise and busted a damn nut. Shit, tranny porn makes me bust the hardest on a regular basis. So what if she has a cock? The same guys who say they wouldn't suck a hot t-girl's penis in public are the same ones with memberships to Shemale Yum behind closed doors.

My gf even knows of my attraction to transsexuals. She understands it and she has a ton of gay friends who understand it as well. So, again, who gives a shit what other people think. Bust a nut and help a t-girl bust a nut. In my opinion, it keeps the birthrate down lmao.

[SHAUN]

Anyone who has given serious thought to existence will soon appreciate that terms like "gay" and "bi" and "straight" and "str8-with-a-twist" (and a million others) are human terms, and humans are no more and no less than a political concept, and therefore an illusion, a kind of walking talking mirage, if you like.

As such, all judgements - from the mouth of a mirage - are null and void, because they are based in something that doesn't really exist!

I can only think of two considerations to bear in mind before an animal thrusts its dick near/in another:

1 - Do I want this act of lust to result in the reproduction of my genes?

and

2 - Is this act of lust consensual?

I have expressed these two considerations in human form (i.e. with "human" words) but, of course, they translate seamlessly into the conscious mind/spirit of any other form of life... a bear or a scorpion or a monkey should and would consider such things, proving the universality and purity of these thoughts (I don't think a scorpion wastes too much of its time on this tiny planet in massive universe without any apparent meaning dwelling on whether it is "gay" or "bi" or "str8" etc... It's just a hunch I have!)

If you have given consideration to the above two thoughts, then go on and do what you're doing...

If a human wants to judge you, either maliciously or simply to demonstrate that they can confer group identity on you, whether you like it or not, it is like a child saying "look Mummy, there's a train"... or "look Mummy, there's a dog"... Such an expression is fine in a young animal... But in a grown one it is such a banal and futile observation, saying so much more about the way their brain works than the way your dick works, that to allow it to unsettle your pond would be unwise.

In the example given ("Look... you're gay"), even if there is no malice in the pronouncement, I believe the correct response is: "So fucking what?"

If the human continues to pester you, insisting that you must acknowledge their categorization of you (usually with some large degree of volume and/or bass in their voice because they feel challenged by your indifference to their words) then you should walk away from them.

And if they try to block your path, beat them, quick and hard, and without regret lol lol

"DO AS YOU WILL - THAT IS THE ONLY LAW"

SHAUN

(It's not that I'm thinking-out-of-the-box..... It's just that, well, errrrr... I threw my box away...)

[CosmicTraveler]

Well put. :)

[NC-BTGhunter]

this is me damn near word for word. It took a long time but I actually consider myself as bi but telling my fam and friends is not an option for me cuz I know they'd lose respect for me. I know the whole, "if they r truly your family and friends they'll love you anyway" thing but I just cant.

[TVSURFER]

Life is like a ...

[bxboy1984]

really dont care
the label my trans friends came up for me was transattracted man. End of the day...im only worried about who im sharing my life with, not how the world see us.

[NC-BTGhunter]

thats some real shit my nig. I guess I should look at it like that

[Indy24]

I think she just steals yall energy like Wendy Williams in order to make her thing interesting. Miss Jia was a pretty decent hardcore porno chick named Kina Kara. She rarely talks about that and makes it seem like a bad coke induced chapter in her life.

Agreed!
I use to subscribe to her youtube videos and even had her as a friend on Myspace a few years back. But in the end, those vids all just started coming off as typical know it all bitter black chick rhetoric. And what straight man wants to hear that???

But over all it's just pure hypocrisy! Genetic women are quick to point out that a tranny has a d*ck yet can't stand to be treated as just p*ssy.

They brag about the fact that they can bare children, yet 60-80% of them have either had abortion(s) or are currently walking around with an IUD in them. Thus making their points sound retarded...

Ironically I know of a Tgirl who looks a lot like Jia, and many who look far better yet these type of women will never truly except tgirls especially when it comes to sharing men. Which is why they're so quick to throw that gay word around as a way of threatening men by means of banishment if caught with a TS woman.

So as a typical womanizer who never gave a fcuk what a genetic chick thought before why worry now that tgirls bring another option to the playing field?

[KitWilkins]

I totally agree with Indy. Straight women are threatened that a transsexual woman can have their man. It's total scare tactics. I'm shocked I didn't think of it like that.

Again, I"m not attacking Jia. At all.

I can buy that a man perhaps isn't totally straight, but to say he's gay, now that's insane to me.

[TVSURFER]

I totally agree with Indy. Straight women are threatened that a transsexual woman can have their man. It's total scare tactics. I'm shocked I didn't think of it like that.

Again, I"m not attacking Jia. At all.

I can buy that a man perhaps isn't totally straight, but to say he's gay, now that's insane to me.
Straight women, like anybody else, is threatened when attention is drawn from them! My ex-wife was pissed that the dog liked me better than her!
A man that says he's gay is more honest than the guy that denies it, eh? May the force be with you!:rolleyes:
:cool:

[KitWilkins]

Who said anything about a man who says he's gay is more honest?

[TVSURFER]

Who said anything about a man who says he's gay is more honest?
I did!
:cool:

[KitWilkins]

I did!
:cool:

....:rolleyes:

[TSSexyChanel]

really dont care
the label my trans friends came up for me was transattracted man. End of the day...im only worried about who im sharing my life with, not how the world see us.

Some one gets its LOL

[kittymatthews]

Some one gets its LOL

yeah, i really wish more men would feel that way.

[CosmicTraveler]

That's unlikely though. Society is hung up on labels. Those with certain labels will ridicule those with other labels. And it's unlikely to change until everyone is the same. Huzzah.

[anonymoussonny]

yeah, i really wish more men would feel that way.

I actually think MOST men feel this way because by nature men are pleasure seekers. Men prefer to insert penis into anything that feels pleasurable, its primal nature.

Cosmic made the disctinction of 'society' looking at them negatively which precludes men publicly declaring their feelings. Even on this board we banter about varying degrees of sexuality as opposed to just accepting each other without biases. I admit that I too have sometimes looked at divisions amongst the members of our circle as opposed to just accepting what others think of themselves. The greatest conflict I see is that we use societal labels to describe who we are just so those we communicate with can understand what we mean to say. The part where we have to be careful is when we start to project our expectations/labels on others.

Labels are for grocery stores... not people:rolleyes:

[Ms Remy M]

I actually think MOST men feel this way because by nature men are pleasure seekers. Men prefer to insert penis into anything that feels pleasurable, its primal nature.

Cosmic made the disctinction of 'society' looking at them negatively which precludes men publicly declaring their feelings. Even on this board we banter about varying degrees of sexuality as opposed to just accepting each other without biases. I admit that I too have sometimes looked at divisions amongst the members of our circle as opposed to just accepting what others think of themselves. The greatest conflict I see is that we use societal labels to describe who we are just so those we communicate with can understand what we mean to say. The part where we have to be careful is when we start to project our expectations/labels on others.

Labels are for grocery stores... not people:rolleyes:

good post :cool:

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[kilakali]

really dont care
the label my trans friends came up for me was transattracted man. End of the day...im only worried about who im sharing my life with, not how the world see us.

Agreed I made a thread about that term awhile back.