What do you see black t girls as.

[stefon]

well im straight never been with a shemale every but it turns me on Alot.
am i wrong if i look at shemales just for sex??.

[KitWilkins]

Yes you are. Transsexuals are dirty and you are a homosexual.

[stefon]

looooooooooool AHAHAH but i dnt like men. and ive always been wiv women
and if dey are dirty wah r u doin on dis site LOL i jus find it intriguin a half man half woman. sexy face nice soft body and sumink Hard lol

[KitWilkins]

half man is still a man. You're gay.

[stefon]

so wat r u

[KitWilkins]

so wat r u

I'm a real woman the object of your heterosexual desires. Anything but pussy makes you gay. Sorry.

[onone]

looooooooooool AHAHAH but i dnt like men. and ive always been wiv women
and if dey are dirty wah r u doin on dis site LOL i jus find it intriguin a half man half woman. sexy face nice soft body and sumink Hard lol

Don't assume that. A thick tranny thigh can feel vastly different than the thick thigh of a woman.

[Ms Remy M]

Yes you are. Transsexuals are dirty and you are a homosexual.

I think we can do without this on here. I understand there's a fair bit of sarcasm going on, but name calling is unnecessary. :cool:

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[KitWilkins]

LOL
Ok ok

I just dont get why someone would come on a black transsexual porn site and ask what "black girls are seen as" and if it's "gay'. lol.

[stefon]

First off i want being rude to you fam . how can u be a female on BTG site and chattin shit. Come off dis Man. i dnt even know why ur typin in this thread.

[KitWilkins]

First off i want being rude to you fam . how can u be a female on BTG site and chattin shit. Come off dis Man. i dnt even know why ur typin in this thread.


lol. hahaahaha. I can hardly understand what you're typing.


Look, if you think a transsexual is a man, then that's how you feel. What you're going through, most guys that are interested in transsexuals will go through. Black transsexuals aren't different than other transexxuals so please dont try to draw a rift.

I'm typing in this thread because I believe your question is silly and the forum you're posting in, a forum that obviously supports black transexuals, is going to be biased.

It's just sorta silly, i hope you understand. You should wikipedia transsexual if you're really that curious. How you perceive trans women is all up to you. You shouldn't ask how other people perceive them because you're just asking yourself for trouble. thats a long debate ad one that you will never get the same answer from. So why dont you define it for yourself.

[stefon]

Remy man Wots goin on Man she can call TS dirty n disprespt me . warn her plz and thnk you. Its just coz i cant Give him or her whoever that really is a goood
punching. Pfft owell thats the net tho init

[KitWilkins]

Remy man Wots goin on Man she can call TS dirty n disprespt me . warn her plz and thnk you. Its just coz i cant Give him or her whoever that really is a goood
punching. Pfft owell thats the net tho init

Holy shit you're dumb. Nevermind.

[stefon]

I DONT GIVE FUCK WAH U CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU DIDNT U WOULDNT REPLY YOU DUMB LITTLE SHIT. UNDERSTAND THIS. IM GNNA JUS IGNORE YOU
COZ YOU HAVE NO LIFE BUT LET BTHIS BE KNOWN IF I COULD SEE YOU AND WAS ABLE TO GET YO YOU I WOULD FUCK YOUR SHIT UP BADLY. lol im done later

[stefon]

im better than you in every single way. so yer thats my last comment on you
so Fuck off Lol becuase you know if we was face to face you wouldnt be chattin half the shit your chattin. so put sumfin in ur sour Pussy and fuck offf.
. i aint gnne reply to you again

[KitWilkins]

im better than you in every single way. so yer thats my last comment on you
so Fuck off Lol becuase you know if we was face to face you wouldnt be chattin half the shit your chattin. so put sumfin in ur sour Pussy and fuck offf.
. i aint gnne reply to you again

Honey, you could never get with me. You're a little dumbass confused boy who doesn't even have the knowledge to do some research on transsexuals before trying to fuck one, sad. Very sad.


Oh and would DEFINITELY say this in your face. Trust me, I'm not afraid of men. Men are easy. :)

[ty-clone]

LOL
Ok ok

I just dont get why someone would come on a black transsexual porn site and ask what "black girls are seen as" and if it's "gay'. lol.

thats not fair, seems the brother was asking these questions to gain knowledge. i remember the 1st time i got with a tgirl i was confused, it would have been therapeutic if i would have known about this site and others to find some type of understanding

[KitWilkins]

thats not fair, seems the brother was asking these question cause to gain knowledge. i remember the 1st time i got with a tgirl i was confused, it would have been therapeutic if i would have known about this site and others to find some type of understanding
Ok, i see where you're coming from .And maybe i handled the situation incorrectly.

BUt I guess i'm always annoyed when guys dont get it. and "what do you see a black t girl as" sounds to me like the person that is asking the question doesn't see black tgirls as women. I'm probably wrong, but that's how i feel cuz to me, it's blatantly obvious a black tgirl is a woman.

[stefon]

Just Ignore Dont waste your breath. he will problably cut his wrists Lol
ISSUES lol mad at the world becuase he has AIDS lol but yer MOVING ON.

[stefon]

But yer No one Answerd My question You Know . this is my thread Lol i get the attetion . not that.

[Ms Remy M]

LOL
Ok ok

I just dont get why someone would come on a black transsexual porn site and ask what "black girls are seen as" and if it's "gay'. lol.

I'm not going to say this applies to stefon in particular, but there are guys whom view transexual porn, yet have never met or spoken to a transexual themselves. You should simply dismiss it if nothing substantive to add. This forum, is here for the admirers (and trans) to discuss a wide variety of issues, most specifically regarding Black Tgirls.

@ OP question, we should view ALL transexuals as regular people trying to live their life happily, with the same basic human rights we all have.

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[KitWilkins]

Just Ignore Dont waste your breath. he will problably cut his wrists Lol
ISSUES lol mad at the world becuase he has AIDS lol but yer MOVING ON.
God you're dumb. If you took like 2 seconds to look at a thread other than your own, you would have seen the thread where i posted photos of my breasts. hahaha. You are a dumbass. Compleltey.

And I HAVE answered your question. I can't help it if you're too fucking stupid to understand.

@Remy: Yes, ok. I have met men like that. Plenty. And I guess I do dismiss them. It does bother me that people associate all transsexual women with pornography. Porn is a fantasy. I wish more men would take the initiative to view trans women as something other than a fetish or a dirty tabbo thing they do behind their computer screens. I guess when I hear a man ask what a transsexual is considered, all I can say is "Wow what a dumb question", but I guess that it's not that obvious to most people. You know, the whole gender disphoria thing and hormones to become female and surgeries. I guess aside from that, it's hard to decipher if a transsexual idenitfies as male or female. I've met a couple of tgirls who have all the full blown sugury and STILL identify as partly male. Which does confuse me

I think that the trans world is really really really complex and if you're going to be man navigating it, choose your words carefully. I try not to overreact when men ask me what i call dumb questions, but sometimes it's hard not to when to me the answers are so blatantly obvious.

I think a lot of men go through their fetish phase of life and at some point come to the realization that tgirls are women and that they aren't all hypersexualized creatures that feed into their tabboo delights. I guess i find that whole view of tgirls to be very demeaning. Which is probably why i reacted the way I did. It's sorta demeaning to view a tgirl as anything but female or at least mostly predominately female.

I feel like a man who has hesitations with transsexuals just needs to jump right in. I've gone on a few dates with "first timers" and they were all really surprised at how heterosexual the dynamic was.

[zipster64]

Kit, I like your reasoning. Some people have their view and are un-open to any others and will rebuff any and all attempts to present alternative view points. My interest in Tgirls started more than a decade ago...stumbled across some early Internet porn and was intrigued. Imagine being a man attracted to a beautiful woman and then seeing the "extra" equipment! lol

At that time I saw it for what it was porn (first I had to consider if it was fake though :) ), and still do. However, after having met and worked along side real transwomen, I've come to understand how the porn view of transsexual women as "shemales" marginalizes the accomplishments and efforts of everyday, non sex workers.

[KitWilkins]

I think that the porn industry really has given us a bad name. I've met several guys who talk to me like every other girl, up to the point when I tell them I'm transsexual and they say "so wanna give me a blowjob?"

[zipster64]

Ouch! And WTF!? That kid of rapid change in treatment, IMHOP, indicates that that guy is seriously twisted and to be left alone. Actually, could view it as an instant radar as to whether or not a guy is worth the effort, because if they think and behave like that their momma didn't raise them right! :)

Seriously, Playboy, blue films/porn and a whole lot of other stuff has been around forever, but you wouldn't watch that stuff and then go out and approach some random GG and say "how about a blow job...".

[KitWilkins]

Well the difference is that most men do not know trans women outside of pronography and prostitution. So they are sexualized.

that's one of the reasons why i'm opting away from that route and going to school and trying to be successful to show the world that you can do it without doing all of that.

[GroobySteven]

Well the difference is that most men do not know trans women outside of pronography and prostitution. So they are sexualized.

that's one of the reasons why i'm opting away from that route and going to school and trying to be successful to show the world that you can do it without doing all of that.

What you are saying is correct, they are sexualized but within that sexualization there is still room to present transgenders with respect for whom they are (models in fantasy, people in reality).

Respectfully, I think your route is excellent and there are plenty of tgirls going those routes and not working in porn ... yet, here you are on a porn site? :rolleyes:

[KitWilkins]

lol. Sean, dont get me wrong. I still have porn in the back of my head. I'm an exhibitionist at heart and part of me would get a huge kick out of doing porn.

However, the connotation that porn has is negative to most people who do not open their minds enough to enjoy it. It'll take decades to convince the world that porn acting is a respectable or even valid career. And I guess as a trans woman, I would like to align myself with cisgendered women and pursue my life's path without letting that get in the way.

Also, my mind set is that I ALREADY get recognized enough already. lol. So i'm sorta terrified at what doing porn will add to that. lol And i dont want to be known as a porn star, i want to be known as an artist. And with the very little experience I have with doing some self made amateur stuff I know that people tend to have a very strong memory. And i would hate for one of my employers in the future to get wind that I did porn and have that be what i basically do with my life.

I do find myself battling between doing porn and not doing porn. I think that I have the qualities to be an enthusiastic model. I'm just worried that would compromise all the years of work i've put into the career i'm trying to build.

[onone]

And i would hate for one of my employers in the future to get wind that I did porn and have that be what i basically do with my life.

I do find myself battling between doing porn and not doing porn. I think that I have the qualities to be an enthusiastic model. I'm just worried that would compromise all the years of work i've put into the career i'm trying to build.

I have a question for you KitWilkins. Why would you become transgendered and want to pursue being an employee?

[KitWilkins]

I have a question for you KitWilkins. Why would you become transgendered and want to pursue being an employee?
I think that question says a heck of a lot more about you than it does about me. hahahha.

That's like saying

"why become transgendered if you want to be considered a human being"

[onone]

I think that question says a heck of a lot more about you than it does about me. hahahha.

That's like saying

"why become transgendered if you want to be considered a human being"


To be employed shouldn't be equated with being a human being. Surely it's a choice, a rather surprising one all things considered... You have a goal of pursing a career based around being employed and living that lifestyle. Most other trannies tend to place themselves in positions that offer more autonomy.

[KitWilkins]

To be employed shouldn't be equated with being a human being. Surely it's a choice, a rather surprising one all things considered... You have a goal of pursing a career based around being employed and living that lifestyle. Most other trannies tend to place themselves in positions that offer more autonomy.

Wait now I"m confused
I'm going to a really good school and i'm pursuing my bachelor degree.

Are you saying that I should work as a sex worker because it would be more lucrative? And because as a transsexual, to you, all i have to offer is sex and exploiting my gender?

Are you implying that because I'm trans, i shouldn't expect to get a job?

[onone]

Wait now I"m confused
I'm going to a really good school and i'm pursuing my bachelor degree.

Are you saying that I should work as a sex worker because it would be more lucrative? And because as a transsexual, to you, all i have to offer is sex and exploiting my gender?

Are you implying that because I'm trans, i shouldn't expect to get a job?

There are more professional pursuits that deliver autonomy than just sex work.
You certainly don't think that's the only alternative to being employed...

As a transsexual have you ever been employed for a company that conducts background checks and pays over $14.00 per hour?

[KitWilkins]

Um....well first of all, i'm 20 years old.

Secondly I'ved worked 2 job as a woman.


I dont get what you're getting at.... at all. What the fuck is wrong with me going to school and what does this have to do with me not wanting to do porn to perhaps prevent myself from living my dreams?

Please explain because this is coming from nowhere.

FURTHERMORE, what the this have to do with the OP? I mean, you'd honestly rather me do sex work than go to school? Stop being cryptic and asking questions and just come out with what you're trying to say.

[onone]

I don't want you to do anything.

In fact I don't want this to be about me. I just was curious about some of the statements you made and so I asked. If you feel that you need to be defensive then that's not what I intended.

[GroobySteven]

I have a question for you KitWilkins. Why would you become transgendered and want to pursue being an employee?

That's just a strange and disturbing question.

[GroobySteven]

l

I do find myself battling between doing porn and not doing porn. I think that I have the qualities to be an enthusiastic model. I'm just worried that would compromise all the years of work i've put into the career i'm trying to build.

I'd say if you were wanting to persue a career in your chosen field, then certainly don't do porn. Regardless of being a transgender or not, it's not accepted and it may cause problems down the line.

Personally, I'm not sure if I ever want porn to become fully accepted and mainstream. Part of the attraction is that much of it is on the fringes of society.

[CosmicTraveler]

Personally, I'm not sure if I ever want porn to become fully accepted and mainstream. Part of the attraction is that much of it is on the fringes of society.

So, it's like being an outlaw biker for you? Without all the getting shot at and... being on the History Channel's Gangland series... so far...

[onone]

That's just a strange and disturbing question.

This is a tranny forum, let's not get into what's "strange." :)

[GroobySteven]

So, it's like being an outlaw biker for you? Without all the getting shot at and... being on the History Channel's Gangland series... so far...

Haha - maybe...
You are from NYC ... even in 1990 Times Sq. and that area was exciting and fun with an edge. Now it's Disney Store and shit. What did you prefer?

[CosmicTraveler]

Haha - maybe...
You are from NYC ... even in 1990 Times Sq. and that area was exciting and fun with an edge. Now it's Disney Store and shit. What did you prefer?

Oh man! Don't remind me of that! Ever since I was 7 I'd planned to hit that place as SOON as I turned 18... I respect what Giuliani did to clean up this city, but I'll never forgive him for what he did to Times Square... John Saxon lookin' son of a bitch!

[stefon]

woooooooow

[KitWilkins]

I don't want you to do anything.

In fact I don't want this to be about me. I just was curious about some of the statements you made and so I asked. If you feel that you need to be defensive then that's not what I intended.

Well...I'll let it go ut it really sounds like you're the sorta guy that likes transsexuals but has a guilt complex. Expecting me to not be able to get a job is pretty ignorant. Makes me think how many transsexuals you actually know Aye.


Sean: You're right I guess. It would have helped me out tons if I did it over the summer. Dont have nearly as much money as I need. :(

[stefon]

Who is online on ps3? I wanna beat sme new ppl lol

[TVSURFER]

Who is online on ps3? I wanna beat sme new ppl lol
You're on the wrong site, man!!! Do something to get those callouses off your thumbs and palms! :mad:
:cool:

[stefon]

what jerk off LOL all u lot eva do is jack off LOOOOL
NAR BUT REALLY U DNT PLAY VIDEO GAMES FAM LOL IM YOUNG U KNO IM ONLY 21 LOL

[TVSURFER]

...IM YOUNG U KNO IM ONLY 21 LOL
Now how did that slip past me?:rolleyes:
:cool:

[stefon]

woteva!! LOL UR ALL OLD !! FOREVER YOUNG!! LOOOOOOOOL

[KitWilkins]

Older than me!

[stefon]

like is THIS man in love wiv me like LEAVE ME ALONE.

[CosmicTraveler]

This is both rich and priceless. :D

[KitWilkins]

like is THIS man in love wiv me like LEAVE ME ALONE.

oh Stefon, shut up before i rape your boy pussy.

[CosmicTraveler]

<___<... is that what horrible spelling and grammar gets you nowadays?

cuz i can dooz it tew.

[stefon]

you didnt have to Harrasse to me if you wanted to do that just ask. boy ur head
over heels

[CosmicTraveler]

Yeah, this is reaching places it just plain shouldn't.

[Ms Remy M]

That was rather rude and inappropriate Kit. Lets either add something useful to the thread or send him a pm. :cool:

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[CosmicTraveler]

Oh noez! Now my comment seems totally irrelevant!

[stefon]

I told you lot lol hes in love with me i say looooool

[KitWilkins]

That was rather rude and inappropriate Kit. Lets either add something useful to the thread or send him a pm. :cool:

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but...

I thought you guys like getting in hard in the arse.
Aye.

[CosmicTraveler]

It might've been the boys part of that comment... kinda... set you back there...

[KitWilkins]

It might've been the boys part of that comment... kinda... set you back there...

Well gee, sorry. A girl likes what she likes.

[CosmicTraveler]

Well, I like kneeing people in the face. Doesn't mean it's acceptable.

[KitWilkins]

Well, I like kneeing people in the face. Doesn't mean it's acceptable.

I didn't ask for your approval. lol.

[CosmicTraveler]

And I didn't ask for a moron to be spamming all over the forums. But he's here... So... shit happens lady.

[KitWilkins]

But why can't I have my fuuuun?

[CosmicTraveler]

Do it on youtube. There's plenty of idiots there.

[stefon]

WOW i cant believe you people actually take this serious MY GOODNESS
im just Laughing my head off on the other side of the screen

[KitWilkins]

Do it on youtube. There's plenty of idiots there.

I'm already on youtube. That's how i got here. haha.


stefon: Fuck you're dumb. No one's taking this seriously.

[CosmicTraveler]

I'm already on youtube. That's how i got here. haha.


stefon: Fuck you're dumb. No one's taking this seriously.

Right, that reminds me, I meant to ask you what DiY was for... you a Dangerous Itoshi Yankii? >_>

And don't you go spoiling that poor boy's dreams. It's not like he has anything else.

[stefon]

I know im having fun Gettin cosmic Angry Lool

[stefon]

@ cosmic i didnt Understand a word you just said mate?.

[KitWilkins]

Right, that reminds me, I meant to ask you what DiY was for... you a Dangerous Itoshi Yankii? >_>

And don't you go spoiling that poor boy's dreams. It's not like he has anything else.

My page WAS going to be about sewing and making your own fashion from old male clothing.


Didn't turn out that way, but I'm gonna try that in the futur.e I think a lot of tgirls are intimidated about going full time becuase they dont have clothes. I learned that my old male clothes could easily be new female clothes.

[CosmicTraveler]

My page WAS going to be about sewing and making your own fashion from old male clothing.


Didn't turn out that way, but I'm gonna try that in the futur.e I think a lot of tgirls are intimidated about going full time becuase they dont have clothes. I learned that my old male clothes could easily be new female clothes.

I still don't know what the DiY is for though... Honestly I'm not much for fashion...

But it definitely sounds like a good idea. How'd you end up changing the page into what it is now if that was your original goal?

[stefon]

Look at these 2 broke Idiots Lol . Pound sterling (british pounds) Best currency in the world!! lol get money you broke muthafuckaz LOL

[CosmicTraveler]

That's it? That's all you've got to say?

[stefon]

Taking about sewing clothes YOU BOTH BROKE!. you couldnt even afford a Gucci belt Lol i have about 15 lol 400 pounds each. over a grand in your money
You Low peasants LOL

[stefon]

well you started with me cosmic if you cant take the heat you should of kept your mouth shut. Lol

[CosmicTraveler]

Should've spent that money on an English tutor.

[CosmicTraveler]

well you started with me cosmic if you cant take the heat you should of kept your mouth shut. Lol

What heat? You're boring as hell. Someone like you doesn't have enough brain power to get my adrenaline pumping. Instead you're just dragging down my IQ.

How about you go tell that girl of yours you like penis now. See how that works out.

[stefon]

So then Get off my thread?? lol make your own lol .
Its funny becuase i have my degree. and i heard alot about your school system over their You dumb fuck LOL speak ebonics Lol thats why we have the top schools over here. If you say i cant type and i dont speak english (which is funny bcuase ENGLAND started the language). but then you understand everything i write . loooooooool your a true Dildo lol

[KitWilkins]

Taking about sewing clothes YOU BOTH BROKE!. you couldnt even afford a Gucci belt Lol i have about 15 lol 400 pounds each. over a grand in your money
You Low peasants LOL

hhahahahah

I'm froogle.

That belt wont compensate for your dick.

[CosmicTraveler]

Well bcuase ( your word ) I'm a dildo, I guess I get more pussy than you. I never said I couldn't understand you, I just said you're a moron. I never said you didn't speak English either, I just said you're terrible at doing so. And you are. bcuase ( again this comes from you ) you're a moron. You couldn't comprehend that simple point. And the school system here is full of morons. You'd fit right in actually.

[stefon]

My dick is big yours aint lol

[KitWilkins]

trust me when I say men that have big dicks dont usually discuss it.

and ive had a lot of bid dicks in my day and every time a guy brags, it's 4 inches smaller than it is.

[CosmicTraveler]

trust me when I say men that have big dicks dont usually discuss it.

and ive had a lot of bid dicks in my day and every time a guy brags, it's 4 inches smaller than it is.

I've seen that happen.

[stefon]

Loooooooool

[TSSexyChanel]

well im straight never been with a shemale every but it turns me on Alot.
am i wrong if i look at shemales just for sex??.

There is absolutely nothing at all as seeing a "shemale" for nothing but sex but be prepared and please don't take offense to being seen only as a ATM for "shemales" any one who looks at another HUMAN BEING for entertainment purposes only should have no problem paying entertainment taxes.

[anonymoussonny]

Why are we even entertaining this...9 pages later, no less!

[kittymatthews]

Why are we even entertaining this...9 pages later, no less!

It's entertainment, FOR FREE. <3

[Ms Remy M]

There is absolutely nothing at all as seeing a "shemale" for nothing but sex but be prepared and please don't take offense to being seen only as a ATM for "shemales" any one who looks at another HUMAN BEING for entertainment purposes only should have no problem paying entertainment taxes.

YES!!! Get 'em together girl.

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[stefon]

I have No problem paying for it money aint a ISSUE loool i deal with Pound Sterling

[kilakali]

I see them as I see everyone else and thats Human Beings..