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thegreat1
03-07-2011, 03:08 AM
The lack of black t-girl dvd's on the market SUCKS. I'm not a big fan of website subscriptions (had a bad incident with one), add to the fact that I'd rather see the scene on a big screen rather than a computer screen. Having to wait for a new Black Tranny Whackers or one of the other few lines to drop a new dvd is the worst. I would love to be able to walk into a video store when I want and just buy/rent a BLACK (not brazilian) t-girl dvd...nothing against brazilian t-girls, I'd just wanna be able to understand what they're saying during the scene. Just needed to vent. Don't know if anybody else feels the same.

kittymatthews
03-07-2011, 03:28 AM
treat me right and you'll be getting a private show. :)

vidman
03-07-2011, 03:50 AM
The lack of black t-girl dvd's on the market SUCKS. I'm not a big fan of website subscriptions (had a bad incident with one), add to the fact that I'd rather see the scene on a big screen rather than a computer screen. Having to wait for a new Black Tranny Whackers or one of the other few lines to drop a new dvd is the worst. I would love to be able to walk into a video store when I want and just buy/rent a BLACK (not brazilian) t-girl dvd...nothing against brazilian t-girls, I'd just wanna be able to understand what they're saying during the scene. Just needed to vent. Don't know if anybody else feels the same.

G1 I absolutely feel ya man!!!!! I hate Brazilian porn because I don't know what "Chupa" means! I mean I do, but you get the point. Not only that, but I want to see girls in action that I know or see on a regular basis. I wanna see Sheeba, Katie Coxx, Victoria Porshe, Nady Nadia, Hailey, India and Kendra in hardcore Brazilian-type porn. Solo stroking scenes get damn old!! I want to see the girls that I lust after everyday in some hardcore, dick in pussy or dick in ass action!!! G1, i definitely feel you man, for sure.

kittymatthews
03-07-2011, 03:52 AM
to unhelpfully chime in, the guys in Brazillian tranny porn are always really hot. I want to learn Portuguese. :D

thegreat1
03-07-2011, 05:01 AM
Ummmmm yeah...thanks for that input kitty *raised eyebrow*

On a sidenote, there is one brazilian ts chicked named jacqueline (don't know last name) that I could watch ALL day...she is PERFECTION

onone
03-07-2011, 05:04 AM
Brazilian porn is boring. The sex in Brazilian scenes generally is so stale and lifeless.

kittymatthews
03-07-2011, 05:08 AM
oh come on, if ya'll can fetishize trans women i can fetishize tranny fuckers. :D

vidman
03-07-2011, 06:02 AM
Ummmmm yeah...thanks for that input kitty *raised eyebrow*

On a sidenote, there is one brazilian ts chicked named jacqueline (don't know last name) that I could watch ALL day...she is PERFECTION

Ahhh Jacqueline, that dark piece of Brazilian ass is hot!!!! I love her.

FlacoPro
03-07-2011, 06:33 AM
I've watched so many Brazillian t-girl movies I actually find myself understanding certain things they say now haha. But I do wish Black TS Dvd's were more popular :(

GroobySteven
03-07-2011, 09:16 AM
You need to get over your fear of websites and join this one if you are looking for black hardcore. We update with hardcore weekly and no other site shows this amount of N.American black models/hardcore.

DVD's just aren't worth producing. We release a few but generally after they've been seen on this site or SMY.

vidman
03-07-2011, 10:19 AM
You need to get over your fear of websites and join this one if you are looking for black hardcore. We update with hardcore weekly and no other site shows this amount of N.American black models/hardcore.

DVD's just aren't worth producing. We release a few but generally after they've been seen on this site or SMY.

Come on Seanchai, I am a regular on your BTG pay site. I've been a loyal customer of yours for years. My account name is "dallas87". I think my problem is that I'm selfish and just want to see hardcore from the girls that I fantasize about. lol. You know, those girls that all the guys talk about on a daily basis like Victoria Porshe and Chloe. However, I do understand that it's not just up to the photogs of BTG, the girls also must consent to doing hardcore filming. Again, just being selfish and unappreciative of what's already on my plate. I guess we wouldn't be human if we didn't want more than what we already have right? lol.

kilakali
03-07-2011, 12:09 PM
You need to get over your fear of websites and join this one if you are looking for black hardcore. We update with hardcore weekly and no other site shows this amount of N.American black models/hardcore.

DVD's just aren't worth producing. We release a few but generally after they've been seen on this site or SMY.

Just to add to Seanchai if you want to see it (what I do) on the "big screen" just make a DVD or Blu Ray( which I perfer for the 1080p HD), and you are set. Nothing is better than to see K Logan's ass on a nice 40+ screen in HD..:p


Come on Seanchai, I am a regular on your BTG pay site. I've been a loyal customer of yours for years. My account name is "dallas87". I think my problem is that I'm selfish and just want to see hardcore from the girls that I fantasize about. lol. You know, those girls that all the guys talk about on a daily basis like Victoria Porshe and Chloe. However, I do understand that it's not just up to the photogs of BTG, the girls also must consent to doing hardcore filming. Again, just being selfish and unappreciative of what's already on my plate. I guess we wouldn't be human if we didn't want more than what we already have right? lol.

VP is retired for good and not coming back. If anything she might have her own site but thats sketchy. We talked about this when she was here in LA last month. The only way you will get close to that fantasy would be for a duo P4P..
To be honest I wouldnt mind seeing the finale of the Sasha and Unique shower scene they posted a few weeks ago....:cool:

GroobySteven
03-07-2011, 12:55 PM
Come on Seanchai, I am a regular on your BTG pay site. I've been a loyal customer of yours for years. My account name is "dallas87". I think my problem is that I'm selfish and just want to see hardcore from the girls that I fantasize about. lol. You know, those girls that all the guys talk about on a daily basis like Victoria Porshe and Chloe. However, I do understand that it's not just up to the photogs of BTG, the girls also must consent to doing hardcore filming. Again, just being selfish and unappreciative of what's already on my plate. I guess we wouldn't be human if we didn't want more than what we already have right? lol.

I was referring to the OP who had a dislike of websites.

I'm thinking of doing a "bolt-on" to this website with extra hardcore. It's something we haven't tried on other sites. We're pretty much maxed out on budget at the current membership level (since increasing the hardcores to weekly especially) but I recognise that people may want more hardcore. If we shot two more AMERICAN hardcores a month for the site with am upsell to them, I wonder if people would be interested? We may also look at doing a site with JUST the hardcores from here AND the extra 2 hardcores for those just into hardcore and no solo but the price would be about the same as BTG for that.

Thoughts?

thegreat1
03-07-2011, 01:38 PM
Ahhh Jacqueline, that dark piece of Brazilian ass is hot!!!! I love her.

@vidman that she is my dude...ass, titties, face and can take it however you give it smdh


Just to add to Seanchai if you want to see it (what I do) on the "big screen" just make a DVD or Blu Ray( which I perfer for the 1080p HD), and you are set. Nothing is better than to see K Logan's ass on a nice 40+ screen in HD..:p



VP is retired for good and not coming back. If anything she might have her own site but thats sketchy. We talked about this when she was here in LA last month. The only way you will get close to that fantasy would be for a duo P4P..
To be honest I wouldnt mind seeing the finale of the Sasha and Unique shower scene they posted a few weeks ago....:cool:

@big homie I'm silently beefing with you for having V Porsche as your 'surprise' date lol...but as far as making a dvd, is the content is downloadable? If so, that might be my solution


I was referring to the OP who had a dislike of websites.

I'm thinking of doing a "bolt-on" to this website with extra hardcore. It's something we haven't tried on other sites. We're pretty much maxed out on budget at the current membership level (since increasing the hardcores to weekly especially) but I recognise that people may want more hardcore. If we shot two more AMERICAN hardcores a month for the site with am upsell to them, I wonder if people would be interested? We may also look at doing a site with JUST the hardcores from here AND the extra 2 hardcores for those just into hardcore and no solo but the price would be about the same as BTG for that.

Thoughts?

@seanchai trust me, I understand the unnecessary production costs of dvds, I'm just quirky like that...but I would strongly consider joining a website with the hardcore stuff....solo scenes are okay, but get boring fast...

thegreat1
03-07-2011, 02:17 PM
Btw lol @ flaco getting his Rosetta Stone on from watching porn lol

vidman
03-07-2011, 02:52 PM
Btw lol @ flaco getting his Rosetta Stone on from watching porn lol

LMAO @ Rosetta Stone's "Learn To Speak Portuguese" edition. G1, you are hilarious!!

vidman
03-07-2011, 03:04 PM
I was referring to the OP who had a dislike of websites.

I'm thinking of doing a "bolt-on" to this website with extra hardcore. It's something we haven't tried on other sites. We're pretty much maxed out on budget at the current membership level (since increasing the hardcores to weekly especially) but I recognise that people may want more hardcore. If we shot two more AMERICAN hardcores a month for the site with am upsell to them, I wonder if people would be interested? We may also look at doing a site with JUST the hardcores from here AND the extra 2 hardcores for those just into hardcore and no solo but the price would be about the same as BTG for that.

Thoughts?

I think that's a good idea Seanchai, but I think the problem is not how many hardcore scenes that are out there, but more of which performer is doing the hardcore. Suggestion: Since we already have a BTG favorites section, which assumes that those top 30 or 40 girls are the predominate favorites based on member selection, why not press the members to keep that favorites section updated and once a week place a poll that ask the members which 2 girls (out of maybe 10 or 12 fom favorites section) would they most want to see in a hardcore seen. Again, I know that some of those girls aren't interested in doing hardcore, so I guess more research is required there. On a sidenote....This is why I hate we lost Mr. Cane (RIP) because the girls really liked working with him. He was definitely additional motivation for the girls.

GroobySteven
03-07-2011, 03:08 PM
I think that's a good idea Seanchai, but I think the problem is not how many hardcore scenes that are out there, but more of which performer is doing the hardcore. Suggestion: Since we already have a BTG favorites section, which assumes that those top 30 or 40 girls are the predominate favorites based on member selection, why not press the members to keep that favorites section updated and once a week place a poll that ask the members which 2 girls (out of maybe 10 or 12 fom favorites section) would they most want to see in a hardcore seen. Again, I know that some of those girls aren't interested in doing hardcore, so I guess more research is required there. On a sidenote....This is why I hate we lost Mr. Cane (RIP) because the girls really liked working with him. He was definitely additional motivation for the girls.

It could only work like that (and it would be nice) if we had a studio or contracts with the girls. Often because of their travel committments and because they are constantly losing their phones (for people who rely on them for business you'd think they'd take better care) then we can't work on a shoot on demand basis. So it's my call on doing a hardcore with them based on how they performed in the solos, the feedback from the photographer, the interest of the model in doing the hardcore and the rating/feedback on the site. I don't want to just shoot models in hardcore because they rated highly, I want to do shoot ones who want to do it and give us a good scene and it works MOST of the time - yet not all.

vidman
03-07-2011, 03:58 PM
It could only work like that (and it would be nice) if we had a studio or contracts with the girls. Often because of their travel committments and because they are constantly losing their phones (for people who rely on them for business you'd think they'd take better care) then we can't work on a shoot on demand basis. So it's my call on doing a hardcore with them based on how they performed in the solos, the feedback from the photographer, the interest of the model in doing the hardcore and the rating/feedback on the site. I don't want to just shoot models in hardcore because they rated highly, I want to do shoot ones who want to do it and give us a good scene and it works MOST of the time - yet not all.

I see. Hmmmm, there are so many considerations. Well, the rating system can at least serve as a litmus test to see who the fans would like to see. Once that is determined, then I guess the other considerations such as performance and willingness can be considered. Heck, I don't know Seanchai. Sometimes I envy your job and sometimes I don't, like now. lol

GroobySteven
03-07-2011, 04:02 PM
I see. Hmmmm, there are so many considerations. Well, the rating system can at least serve as a litmus test to see who the fans would like to see. Once that is determined, then I guess the other considerations such as performance and willingness can be considered. Heck, I don't know Seanchai. Sometimes I envy your job and sometimes I don't, like now. lol

I have the best job in the world. I love it.
Yet it's neither as exciting/titillating as most people would expect - and a lot more difficult than probably assumed :-)

Ms Remy M
03-07-2011, 04:58 PM
The lack of black t-girl dvd's on the market SUCKS. I'm not a big fan of website subscriptions (had a bad incident with one), add to the fact that I'd rather see the scene on a big screen rather than a computer screen. Having to wait for a new Black Tranny Whackers or one of the other few lines to drop a new dvd is the worst. I would love to be able to walk into a video store when I want and just buy/rent a BLACK (not brazilian) t-girl dvd...nothing against brazilian t-girls, I'd just wanna be able to understand what they're saying during the scene. Just needed to vent. Don't know if anybody else feels the same.

There is a huge lack of black ts dvds on the market. I wondered about this myself, as I use to buy dvds from stores and the selections were always lacking. However; there is hope as BDB has been keeping the Georgia stores stocked with her selections, I also heard they are having a hard time keeping them on the shelves! BDB is paving the way and while some are struggling trying to get shoots with Grooby's competition, other Independent models are going after that long term money with solo sites and serving the DVD market with the content people will pay to see. Nothing against Grooby and other Production studios, but sometimes it's the small guy/gal who serves the niche best, with their specialized content.


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GroobySteven
03-07-2011, 05:17 PM
but sometimes it's the small guy/gal who serves the niche best, with their specialized content.


We actually are the small guys ;-)

FlacoPro
03-07-2011, 05:51 PM
Btw lol @ flaco getting his Rosetta Stone on from watching porn lol

Hahaha at this rate I'll be speaking Portugese fluently very soon :D lol

vidman
03-07-2011, 06:07 PM
There is a huge lack of black ts dvds on the market. I wondered about this myself, as I use to buy dvds from stores and the selections were always lacking. However; there is hope as BDB has been keeping the Georgia stores stocked with her selections, I also heard they are having a hard time keeping them on the shelves! BDB is paving the way and while some are struggling trying to get shoots with Grooby's competition, other Independent models are going after that long term money with solo sites and serving the DVD market with the content people will pay to see. Nothing against Grooby and other Production studios, but sometimes it's the small guy/gal who serves the niche best, with their specialized content.



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Not only that, Remy, but girls like BDB do very well because she cuts out the middle-man by distributing her own videos (Cash On Delivery). Yes, you're right about her movies flying off the shelves here in Atlanta. I frequent a popular adult video store here in Atlanta called Southern Nights and the people who work there tell me that they can't even rent the movies out steadily because the customers aren't renting them, they are BUYING THEM! So they're having to call BDB to sell more of her material to them so that they can keep their shelves stocked. Impressive!

Ms Remy M
03-07-2011, 06:08 PM
We actually are the small guys ;-)

I hear you, and with all the awesome black on black ts content being made out there in Cali, I'm sure there's plenty that could grace a dvd for that market. :cool:

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thegreat1
03-07-2011, 06:21 PM
I think that's a good idea Seanchai, but I think the problem is not how many hardcore scenes that are out there, but more of which performer is doing the hardcore. Suggestion: Since we already have a BTG favorites section, which assumes that those top 30 or 40 girls are the predominate favorites based on member selection, why not press the members to keep that favorites section updated and once a week place a poll that ask the members which 2 girls (out of maybe 10 or 12 fom favorites section) would they most want to see in a hardcore seen. Again, I know that some of those girls aren't interested in doing hardcore, so I guess more research is required there. On a sidenote....This is why I hate we lost Mr. Cane (RIP) because the girls really liked working with him. He was definitely additional motivation for the girls.

Don't know who mr cane is/was but there are a few id strongly consider making my screen debut with lol

thegreat1
03-07-2011, 06:30 PM
Not only that, Remy, but girls like BDB do very well because she cuts out the middle-man by distributing her own videos (Cash On Delivery). Yes, you're right about her movies flying off the shelves here in Atlanta. I frequent a popular adult video store here in Atlanta called Southern Nights and the people who work there tell me that they can't even rent the movies out steadily because the customers aren't renting them, they are BUYING THEM! So they're having to call BDB to sell more of her material to them so that they can keep their shelves stocked. Impressive!

I find her both attractive and unattractive at the same time...but id buy her vids...at least the ones where she bottoms...not interested in seeing her boink a dude...ewwwwwwwwwwwww

vidman
03-07-2011, 06:34 PM
We actually are the small guys ;-)

Such a true statement Seanchai. Grooby is very small compared to those huge production companies that also produce TS porn like Evil Angel, Devil's Films, White Ghetto and more. I firmly believe that if Grooby can tap into a very popular, untapped market (Black Transsexual Hardcore Porn), it could catapult into the realm of those huge companies such as the aforementioned ones. Grooby already has a slight edge in Black TS films because Black transsexuals are already familiar with Grooby due to sites like BTG and SMY. However!!!!! Grooby is starting to lose that market to competitors. Just in the past 3 or 4 months I've seen very popular Black Transsexuals on the box covers of Evil Angel/Devil's Films (Joey Silvera). Girls like Naudy Nadia, Mia Isabella, Natalia Coxx, Tameka, Jayla, Jessica Dawson and Britney Fox. All of these girls have photo shoots right here in the BTG archives. Not even a year ago, Evil Angel only dealt with White Transsexuals. In fact, just last week, Devil's came out with another movie with Vanilla on the cover. Heck, today(3/7/10) Evil Angel (Joey Silvera) has another movie being released called Black Shemale Idols: The Audition. This movie has India(yes, huge cumshot India) on the front cover! Also in the movie will be Vanilla, Paris Parelli, Chyna and a few new black transsexuals that have managed to slip by BTG. I hate to say it, but Grooby seems to be losing the war of attrition right now, whereas, at one point, Grooby had the clear edge on the Black Transsexual market. Don't get me wrong, I know it's about money as well and being able to financially compete with these huge production companies and being able to appeal to the model's financial requests. Hence, "we actually are the small guys."

vidman
03-07-2011, 06:43 PM
Don't know who mr cane is/was but there are a few id strongly consider making my screen debut with lol


Hey G1, you should approach Seanchai about working with the girls. I know at one point, Seanchai was looking for black male models that could actually perform under the hot lights and cameras. It's easier said than done, trust me I know. If you think you have what it takes, try it out.

To answer your question about "Who is Mr. Cane." Cane was a black male model that was actually able to truely perform under the pressure and actually did a dang good job!! We recently lost him. May Yah rest his soul. RIP brother Cane.

vidman
03-07-2011, 06:45 PM
I find her both attractive and unattractive at the same time...but id buy her vids...at least the ones where she bottoms...not interested in seeing her boink a dude...ewwwwwwwwwwwww

Agreed again G1. I'm not necessarily into the massive silicone butt and hips but she is a magnanamous performer. Very creative, she is. Not to mention, she does have a very feminine, pretty face.

GroobySteven
03-07-2011, 06:51 PM
I disagree, I think we still clearly have the edge in Black Transsexual but it's where OUR revenue is, which is mainly online. Joey Silvera btw has always produced Black transsexual DVD's.

We're producing more black hardcore content than anyone else whatsoever (at least 52 scenes a year. Even removing the Brazilians leaves it at over 40 scenes). We shoot it all in HD DVD format but we don't release it IN hard copy DVD all the time. It's just sometimes too expensive to do that for too little return. What we do is release our content on the site's and then, decide if we are going to release it on DVD (in hard copy) or just DVD format online (in VOD). Revenue on hardcopies have dropped substantially over the past few years but it is still worth doing for some releases. We have a Remy hardcore in the works and another BTG one. However, as members here you would have already seen that content on the site (just not in DVD quality).

How many of you bought this DVD?
http://www.shemale-video-direct.com/miva/mm5/graphics/00000001/smpsnataliacoxxxf.jpg
A bargain at only $19.99 (http://www.shemale-video-direct.com/miva/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SVD&Product_Code=SMPS502&Category_Code=GY)


Are you aware that we even have this DVD out IN VOD FORMAT ONLY but in DVD quality:
http://imgcover-1.vodconcepts.com/image/cover/171/171105.cover.jpghttp://imgcover-1.vodconcepts.com/image/back/171/171105.back.jpg
Watch it here GET 10 MINS FOR FREE (http://www.groobyvod.com/video/171105/Tony-Vee's-Outta-Control-T-Girls-3/?ct=5649&vod=121081)

Our revenue stream is mainly online as that's where our customer base is. Releasing some of the better content in DVD format does work but shooting specifically to release a DVD, doesn't for our business model.

vidman
03-07-2011, 07:04 PM
I disagree, I think we still clearly have the edge in Black Transsexual but it's where OUR revenue is, which is mainly online. Joey Silvera btw has always produced Black transsexual DVD's.

We're producing more black hardcore content than anyone else whatsoever (at least 52 scenes a year. Even removing the Brazilians leaves it at over 40 scenes). We shoot it all in HD DVD format but we don't release it IN hard copy DVD all the time. It's just sometimes too expensive to do that for too little return. What we do is release our content on the site's and then, decide if we are going to release it on DVD (in hard copy) or just DVD format online (in VOD). Revenue on hardcopies have dropped substantially over the past few years but it is still worth doing for some releases. We have a Remy hardcore in the works and another BTG one. However, as members here you would have already seen that content on the site (just not in DVD quality).

How many of you bought this DVD?
http://www.shemale-video-direct.com/miva/mm5/graphics/00000001/smpsnataliacoxxxf.jpg
A bargain at only $19.99 (http://www.shemale-video-direct.com/miva/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SVD&Product_Code=SMPS502&Category_Code=GY)


Are you aware that we even have this DVD out IN VOD FORMAT ONLY but in DVD quality:
http://imgcover-1.vodconcepts.com/image/cover/171/171105.cover.jpghttp://imgcover-1.vodconcepts.com/image/back/171/171105.back.jpg
Watch it here GET 10 MINS FOR FREE (http://www.groobyvod.com/video/171105/Tony-Vee's-Outta-Control-T-Girls-3/?ct=5649&vod=121081)

Our revenue stream is mainly online as that's where our customer base is. Releasing some of the better content in DVD format does work but shooting specifically to release a DVD, doesn't for our business model.

I see. So it's just a matter of business format. Makes sense. Two different companies with two different business models. Targeting the same customers, just in two completely different ways. I overstand. Oh, and to answer your question, Seanchai, yes I have both of those movies in my collection. In fact, I have Tony Vee's Outta Control 1, 2 and 3 in my collection. Number 1 being the best of that trilogy, in my opinion. By the way Seanchai, whatever happened to Nookie (from Outta Control #1)? She was sexy, cute and hot!!

vidman
03-07-2011, 07:22 PM
I disagree, I think we still clearly have the edge in Black Transsexual but it's where OUR revenue is, which is mainly online. Joey Silvera btw has always produced Black transsexual DVD's.

We're producing more black hardcore content than anyone else whatsoever (at least 52 scenes a year. Even removing the Brazilians leaves it at over 40 scenes). We shoot it all in HD DVD format but we don't release it IN hard copy DVD all the time. It's just sometimes too expensive to do that for too little return. What we do is release our content on the site's and then, decide if we are going to release it on DVD (in hard copy) or just DVD format online (in VOD). Revenue on hardcopies have dropped substantially over the past few years but it is still worth doing for some releases. We have a Remy hardcore in the works and another BTG one. However, as members here you would have already seen that content on the site (just not in DVD quality).

How many of you bought this DVD?
http://www.shemale-video-direct.com/miva/mm5/graphics/00000001/smpsnataliacoxxxf.jpg
A bargain at only $19.99 (http://www.shemale-video-direct.com/miva/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SVD&Product_Code=SMPS502&Category_Code=GY)


Are you aware that we even have this DVD out IN VOD FORMAT ONLY but in DVD quality:
http://imgcover-1.vodconcepts.com/image/cover/171/171105.cover.jpghttp://imgcover-1.vodconcepts.com/image/back/171/171105.back.jpg
Watch it here GET 10 MINS FOR FREE (http://www.groobyvod.com/video/171105/Tony-Vee's-Outta-Control-T-Girls-3/?ct=5649&vod=121081)

Our revenue stream is mainly online as that's where our customer base is. Releasing some of the better content in DVD format does work but shooting specifically to release a DVD, doesn't for our business model.

Seanchai, I must agree with you again....you're absolutely right!! Joey Silvera has been filming black American transsexuals for a long time. In fact, now that I think about it, Joey first introduced me to Lisa Cage (RIP), Nefertiti, Sheeba, Diamond, Alyssa Dupont, Vo De'balm, Mia isabella, Dayna, Suzanna Holmes, Jessica Host and Coco. All of these girls have done shoots for BTG or SMY too. Alarming how time flies!!! That's been a while!

thegreat1
03-07-2011, 07:50 PM
Hey G1, you should approach Seanchai about working with the girls. I know at one point, Seanchai was looking for black male models that could actually perform under the hot lights and cameras. It's easier said than done, trust me I know. If you think you have what it takes, try it out.

To answer your question about "Who is Mr. Cane." Cane was a black male model that was actually able to truely perform under the pressure and actually did a dang good job!! We recently lost him. May Yah rest his soul. RIP brother Cane.

Nah homie...I was jus joking...not my style...I don't even like taking pictures lol

Ms Remy M
03-07-2011, 07:56 PM
Don't know who mr cane is/was but there are a few id strongly consider making my screen debut with lol

Cane was my friend/assistant/male performer for productions I filmed for Black Tgirls and Shemale Yum. Rest In Peace.

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kilakali
03-07-2011, 09:19 PM
@vidman that she is my dude...ass, titties, face and can take it however you give it smdh



@big homie I'm silently beefing with you for having V Porsche as your 'surprise' date lol...but as far as making a dvd, is the content is downloadable? If so, that might be my solution



@seanchai trust me, I understand the unnecessary production costs of dvds, I'm just quirky like that...but I would strongly consider joining a website with the hardcore stuff....solo scenes are okay, but get boring fast...

Yes all the video content is downloadable..LOL V Porshe is awesome great girl to be around with a killer body....:p


Such a true statement Seanchai. Grooby is very small compared to those huge production companies that also produce TS porn like Evil Angel, Devil's Films, White Ghetto and more. I firmly believe that if Grooby can tap into a very popular, untapped market (Black Transsexual Hardcore Porn), it could catapult into the realm of those huge companies such as the aforementioned ones. Grooby already has a slight edge in Black TS films because Black transsexuals are already familiar with Grooby due to sites like BTG and SMY. However!!!!! Grooby is starting to lose that market to competitors. Just in the past 3 or 4 months I've seen very popular Black Transsexuals on the box covers of Evil Angel/Devil's Films (Joey Silvera). Girls like Naudy Nadia, Mia Isabella, Natalia Coxx, Tameka, Jayla, Jessica Dawson and Britney Fox. All of these girls have photo shoots right here in the BTG archives. Not even a year ago, Evil Angel only dealt with White Transsexuals. In fact, just last week, Devil's came out with another movie with Vanilla on the cover. Heck, today(3/7/10) Evil Angel (Joey Silvera) has another movie being released called Black Shemale Idols: The Audition. This movie has India(yes, huge cumshot India) on the front cover! Also in the movie will be Vanilla, Paris Parelli, Chyna and a few new black transsexuals that have managed to slip by BTG. I hate to say it, but Grooby seems to be losing the war of attrition right now, whereas, at one point, Grooby had the clear edge on the Black Transsexual market. Don't get me wrong, I know it's about money as well and being able to financially compete with these huge production companies and being able to appeal to the model's financial requests. Hence, "we actually are the small guys."

Joey only puts out all black TS content once every 8 or so months, so I dont know where you got that info from he is not mass producing blk ts porn at a fast pace.

Interesting tidbit about audition 2 which came out last thursday. i was with India the night before the shoot. She had injured her ankle and couldnt walk. She was so worried about not being able to perform, she called Joey and rest assured the shoot went on as scheduled. Also Diamond Yum is Cinnamon on this site she did an awesome job in her scene as well as India. Paris held her own too.. Be on the lookout for the next dvd with Sasha Strokes...

kilakali
03-07-2011, 10:48 PM
I think adult video stores are on the decline. You just dont see as many like you did in the mid-90's. Especially in this niche its just more convient to get your tgirl porn fix online as opposed to going into a video store sneak your way to the back past the gay section to the tgirl area, brown bag it and go home and hope the the cover doesnt slip out on the way to your house....:cool:

CosmicTraveler
03-07-2011, 11:18 PM
It's true. Going behind the beaded curtain can be such a hassle as compared to clicking. Not to mention running into people you know. Like that time I saw a guy who worked at my high school ( while I was still there. ) And then getting new content all the time can also be a problem. Like the time the lady behind the counter said " You've been coming in a lot lately, is something wrong? " Actually that was kinda nice of her... sort of...

But yeah, the internet is killing video stores like video killed the radio star. And getting to your t-girl porn without going through the gay section is less of a hassle.

vidman
03-08-2011, 12:18 AM
Yes all the video content is downloadable..LOL V Porshe is awesome great girl to be around with a killer body....:p



Joey only puts out all black TS content once every 8 or so months, so I dont know where you got that info from he is not mass producing blk ts porn at a fast pace.

Interesting tidbit about audition 2 which came out last thursday. i was with India the night before the shoot. She had injured her ankle and couldnt walk. She was so worried about not being able to perform, she called Joey and rest assured the shoot went on as scheduled. Also Diamond Yum is Cinnamon on this site she did an awesome job in her scene as well as India. Paris held her own too.. Be on the lookout for the next dvd with Sasha Strokes...

I never said that Joey Silvera was producing black transsexual porn at a mass rate. I don't think I did. I normally lump those guys in there together since they're under one big umbrella. When you say Evil Angel, you are also saying Devil's Films. When you say Evil Angel, Joey Silvera also falls under that umbrella. Sorry for not being clear on that one Kali. Collectively, the Evil Angel company is putting out a pretty good amount of black transsexual entertainment.

vidman
03-08-2011, 12:21 AM
It's true. Going behind the beaded curtain can be such a hassle as compared to clicking. Not to mention running into people you know. Like that time I saw a guy who worked at my high school ( while I was still there. ) And then getting new content all the time can also be a problem. Like the time the lady behind the counter said " You've been coming in a lot lately, is something wrong? " Actually that was kinda nice of her... sort of...

But yeah, the internet is killing video stores like video killed the radio star. And getting to your t-girl porn without going through the gay section is less of a hassle.

Well I'm glad my video store has place the transsexual section in the main stream area and not in the gay area. I don't have to even fool myself to think that I'll be stepping one foot toward the "G" section. lol

kilakali
03-08-2011, 01:36 AM
I never said that Joey Silvera was producing black transsexual porn at a mass rate. I don't think I did. I normally lump those guys in there together since they're under one big umbrella. When you say Evil Angel, you are also saying Devil's Films. When you say Evil Angel, Joey Silvera also falls under that umbrella. Sorry for not being clear on that one Kali. Collectively, the Evil Angel company is putting out a pretty good amount of black transsexual entertainment.

Who outside of Joey Silvera produces black t girl porn for the company?

thegreat1
03-08-2011, 02:55 AM
I disagree, I think we still clearly have the edge in Black Transsexual but it's where OUR revenue is, which is mainly online. Joey Silvera btw has always produced Black transsexual DVD's.

We're producing more black hardcore content than anyone else whatsoever (at least 52 scenes a year. Even removing the Brazilians leaves it at over 40 scenes). We shoot it all in HD DVD format but we don't release it IN hard copy DVD all the time. It's just sometimes too expensive to do that for too little return. What we do is release our content on the site's and then, decide if we are going to release it on DVD (in hard copy) or just DVD format online (in VOD). Revenue on hardcopies have dropped substantially over the past few years but it is still worth doing for some releases. We have a Remy hardcore in the works and another BTG one. However, as members here you would have already seen that content on the site (just not in DVD quality).

How many of you bought this DVD?
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A bargain at only $19.99 (http://www.shemale-video-direct.com/miva/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SVD&Product_Code=SMPS502&Category_Code=GY)


Are you aware that we even have this DVD out IN VOD FORMAT ONLY but in DVD quality:
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Watch it here GET 10 MINS FOR FREE (http://www.groobyvod.com/video/171105/Tony-Vee's-Outta-Control-T-Girls-3/?ct=5649&vod=121081)

Our revenue stream is mainly online as that's where our customer base is. Releasing some of the better content in DVD format does work but shooting specifically to release a DVD, doesn't for our business model.

@seanchai so if I join btg, I'll be able to download any content (tony vee's outta control t-girls 3 and other hardcore scenes) to my hard drive to view whenever I like

GroobySteven
03-08-2011, 12:00 PM
All those scenes on Tony Vee's Outta Control are available on this site as are 100's of other scenes.
You can download them to your harddrive and watch as many times as you wish.
When your membership expires, you will still be able to watch those scenes you downloaded.

bigdicki
03-09-2011, 01:14 PM
All those scenes on Tony Vee's Outta Control are available on this site as are 100's of other scenes.
You can download them to your harddrive and watch as many times as you wish.
When your membership expires, you will still be able to watch those scenes you downloaded.

If you have a playstation 3 or an lcd tv screen you can either stream the video to the ps3 or connect your computer to the tv for large screen viewing.

vidman
03-09-2011, 03:21 PM
Who outside of Joey Silvera produces black t girl porn for the company?


Joey's not the only person running the Black Transsexual content, I don't think. Maybe he is but I know that the Transsexual Prostitutes series has some black girls in it from time to time and I don't think Joey deals with that series. Joey falls more under the Evil Angel productions, not the Devil's productions. But what I'm saying is that for those who don't know, Evil Angel and Devils fall under the same umbrella. Sometimes Evil puts out movies with black girls. Sometimes Devils film will come out with some black girls in a film. For those who don't know, these are one in the same company.

GroobySteven
03-09-2011, 07:19 PM
Joey's not the only person running the Black Transsexual content, I don't think. Maybe he is but I know that the Transsexual Prostitutes series has some black girls in it from time to time and I don't think Joey deals with that series. Joey falls more under the Evil Angel productions, not the Devil's productions. But what I'm saying is that for those who don't know, Evil Angel and Devils fall under the same umbrella. Sometimes Evil puts out movies with black girls. Sometimes Devils film will come out with some black girls in a film. For those who don't know, these are one in the same company.

You are absolutely and unequivocally WRONG.
Devil's Film and Evil Angel are two seperate companies completely with no cross-over.

Transsexual Prostitutes is not an Evil Angel series.

kilakali
03-10-2011, 08:07 AM
Joey's not the only person running the Black Transsexual content, I don't think. Maybe he is but I know that the Transsexual Prostitutes series has some black girls in it from time to time and I don't think Joey deals with that series. Joey falls more under the Evil Angel productions, not the Devil's productions. But what I'm saying is that for those who don't know, Evil Angel and Devils fall under the same umbrella. Sometimes Evil puts out movies with black girls. Sometimes Devils film will come out with some black girls in a film. For those who don't know, these are one in the same company.
Joey is the only one doing black ts content for Evil Angel same as when he was with Devil Films.

The Transexual Prostitutes series I have only seen as far as BTG's are Jade, Natassia Dreams, and Mia Isabella ( I would place her in the "other" catagory).

Sidenote: WCP (West Coast Productions) creators of the Booty Talk series, and After Dark Pictures had plans to do their own BTG porn series. I believe they found the niche too small and slow turnover that it never materialized. I wish they would have given it a shot, because if my friend Bishop could use his talents like he has with straight porn to TS porn. He could have made an impact in the industry and turn some heads..


You are absolutely and unequivocally WRONG.
Devil's Film and Evil Angel are two seperate companies completely with no cross-over.

Transsexual Prostitutes is not an Evil Angel series.

Correct.. Evil Angel is owned by the Buttman John Stagliano. I am thinking Vman might have it confused with Elegant Angel..

vidman
03-10-2011, 04:25 PM
Joey is the only one doing black ts content for Evil Angel same as when he was with Devil Films.

The Transexual Prostitutes series I have only seen as far as BTG's are Jade, Natassia Dreams, and Mia Isabella ( I would place her in the "other" catagory).

Sidenote: WCP (West Coast Productions) creators of the Booty Talk series, and After Dark Pictures had plans to do their own BTG porn series. I believe they found the niche too small and slow turnover that it never materialized. I wish they would have given it a shot, because if my friend Bishop could use his talents like he has with straight porn to TS porn. He could have made an impact in the industry and turn some heads..



Correct.. Evil Angel is owned by the Buttman John Stagliano. I am thinking Vman might have it confused with Elegant Angel..


Hmmmm, my bad. I thought Evil Angel was the umbrella and all the other production companies fell under that big Evil Angel umbrella. Sorry for the misinfo. However, Kali, I do know that Vanilla is now a part of that Transsexual Prostitutes series. It's actually volume 65 (the latest one). Sorry again fellas. So Joey is under the Evil Angel label?

kilakali
03-12-2011, 01:27 AM
Hmmmm, my bad. I thought Evil Angel was the umbrella and all the other production companies fell under that big Evil Angel umbrella. Sorry for the misinfo. However, Kali, I do know that Vanilla is now a part of that Transsexual Prostitutes series. It's actually volume 65 (the latest one). Sorry again fellas. So Joey is under the Evil Angel label?

Yes, Joey is under Evil Angel. Thats pretty sad after 65 DVD releases there are less than 10 BTG's stars in those movies.