Omg this poem right here.......

[thegirlnextdoor]

i was looking at old def poetry jams clips when i came across this poem.its crazy how this is exactly what it feels like to be in love with a dude who is in the closet (even tho thats not what shes talking about).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t7UsbvF4qY&feature=related

[peggygee]

That was off the chain. :cool:

My hairdresser, and some female friends of mine were discussing men this
weekend, I'm going to email this to them.

[CosmicTraveler]

Discussion eh?

[peggygee]

This poem about being transgendered, also by her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmfkdOAq-xk&feature=related

[peggygee]

I don't need a man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbhZBKww7c0&feature=related

[CosmicTraveler]

- runs from this topic -

[Ms Remy M]

Great post ladies, thanks for that. Finally, something worth looking at on Youtube... :cool:

[CosmicTraveler]

Great post ladies, thanks for that. Finally, something worth looking at on Youtube... :cool:

The Juggernaut Bitch is a classic in our time dammit.

[thegirlnextdoor]

that girl is extremely talented.im alitle disappointed this thread hasnt got alot of feed back tho.maybe if i posted a pic of my dick or titled the thread 'all men that want to fuck me are tranny chaser' i would of gotten a greater response **shrugs**

[Ms Remy M]

that girl is extremely talented.im alitle disappointed this thread hasnt got alot of feed back tho.maybe if i posted a pic of my dick or titled the thread 'all men that want to fuck me are tranny chaser' i would of gotten a greater response **shrugs**

Ha! The men are here for jerk off material, most aren't even paying members, and many are duplicate profiles so people can give the impression someone is supporting their point of view. I suspect one or two more may chime in as they will likely recognize how 'understanding' is always beneficial, but without some T-n-A this thread isn't likely to get any testosterone driven attention. Still, thanks for posting the vids I certainly appreciated them.

[peggygee]

that girl is extremely talented.im alitle disappointed this thread hasnt got alot of feed back tho.maybe if i posted a pic of my dick or titled the thread 'all men that want to fuck me are tranny chaser' i would of gotten a greater response **shrugs**


Ha! The men are here for jerk off material, most aren't even paying members, and many are duplicate profiles so people can give the impression someone is supporting their point of view. I suspect one or two more may chime in as they will likely recognize how 'understanding' is always beneficial, but without some T-n-A this thread isn't likely to get any testosterone driven attention. Still, thanks for posting the vids I certainly appreciated them.

Okay ladies, I'll up the sexual ante, but still keep it poetic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q84eIssTk14

;)

[MrF]

People might be afraid to give feedback because of the strong feelings involved and the fear of a backlash. Plus I guess it is mostly a porn forum. Intellectual threads don't get much play. This one was got more than average.

Regarding the video clips, I can't help but feel that the women in the videos have no business being upset. They're young, beautiful, apparently intelligent (from the little I can see) and strong. Make better choices about men and you should be fine. For example, the girl in post #5 ("my man"): I bet she's found her man and is just reporting on it.

Regarding the original post, it seems to me the solution to the problem of falling in love with a dude who is in the closet is: don't do that ! Instead, fall in love with someone who is open and willing to treat you with respect. I'll admit, though, that it might be easier said than done ...

How's that for feedback ?

[Ms Remy M]

People might be afraid to give feedback because of the strong feelings involved and the fear of a backlash. Plus I guess it is mostly a porn forum. Intellectual threads don't get much play. This one was got more than average.

Regarding the video clips, I can't help but feel that the women in the videos have no business being upset. They're young, beautiful, apparently intelligent (from the little I can see) and strong. Make better choices about men and you should be fine. For example, the girl in post #5 ("my man"): I bet she's found her man and is just reporting on it.

Regarding the original post, it seems to me the solution to the problem of falling in love with a dude who is in the closet is: don't do that ! Instead, fall in love with someone who is open and willing to treat you with respect. I'll admit, though, that it might be easier said than done ...

How's that for feedback ?

Thanks for your thoughts, see that wasn't so hard. :p

You might be surprised how easy it is to fall in love with the wrong person. Once I am actually 'In Love' I tend to be in a full throttle, go hard or don't get involved kind of way. I don't do bs high school relationships were you are just together just to have something to do or someone by your side.

[raheme]

What does any man gain from entering this topic?

We have a man hating ts feminist

A ts advocate who doesn't need a man

And a ts who's feeling these man bashing videos

Seems like you guys have already written off guys as worthless peices of shit who only ineract with you all to 'jerk off'

Interesting

[raheme]

People might be afraid to give feedback because of the strong feelings involved and the fear of a backlash. Plus I guess it is mostly a porn forum. Intellectual threads don't get much play. This one was got more than average.

Regarding the video clips, I can't help but feel that the women in the videos have no business being upset. They're young, beautiful, apparently intelligent (from the little I can see) and strong. Make better choices about men and you should be fine. For example, the girl in post #5 ("my man"): I bet she's found her man and is just reporting on it.

Regarding the original post, it seems to me the solution to the problem of falling in love with a dude who is in the closet is: don't do that ! Instead, fall in love with someone who is open and willing to treat you with respect. I'll admit, though, that it might be easier said than done ...

How's that for feedback ?

Its always funny how these intelligent above it all type women constantly derail men, and more specifically black men yet, they themselves take no responsibility for choosing to (sometimes over and over again) date these 'bad men'.

Maybe instead of looking outward @ why are all men dogs (in their opinion) maybe they should be a bit more retospective and ask themselves what is it about me that keeps drawing me to these types of dudes.

[Ms Remy M]

What does any man gain from entering this topic?

We have a man hating ts feminist

A ts advocate who doesn't need a man

And a ts who's feeling these man bashing videos

Seems like you guys have already written off guys as worthless pieces of shit who only interact with you all to 'jerk off'

Interesting

As with any other thread, you gain the opportunity to express your opinion on the subject matter at hand. ;)

I actually don't 'hate'. I do however; despise a plenty lol :p Not all men, just men in general. I do have some male friends after all. ;) Hooray, I actually just was invited by one of my ' straight male friends' to his wedding. Love is in the air, as this is the 2nd wedding I know of concerning friends of mine. I have no idea what I'm going to wear though, I don't do formal. :)

I made that 'jerk off' statement, not to knock you guys, but to re-affirm to Amber that these type of post are falling, for the most part, on deaf ears, though mine are not and the post are welcome by some of us. :cool:

[peggygee]

What does any man gain from entering this topic?

We have a man hating ts feminist

A ts advocate who doesn't need a man

And a ts who's feeling these man bashing videos

Seems like you guys have already written off guys as worthless peices of shit who only ineract with you all to 'jerk off'

Interesting

Titling the video "I don't need a man" was a synopsis of the video, what the
poet was conveying, not necessarily my personal view-point.

Having said that, I am a very independent person, one that takes very good
care of herself and her needs.

Too often trans and even natal women will measure their worth by how many
men they can pull. Indeed, often-times their very livelihoods are tied to the
whims of these men, and they are at their beck and call, under their thumb as
it were.

But this is far from this being a man bashing thread for me, it was just some
great poetry and prose, and sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[peggygee]

As with any other thread, you gain the opportunity to express your opinion on the subject matter at hand. ;).......

I made that 'jerk off' statement, not to knock you guys, but to re-affirm to Amber that these type of post are falling, for the most part, on deaf ears, though mine are not and the post are welcome by some of us. :cool:

Back in the day, when I would peruse my Brother's Playboy / Players, I would
actually read the articles. I enjoyed the writing by literary greats such as
Norman Mailer, James Baldwin, Nat Hentoff, et al.

It wasn't really the wank and spank material that drew me in.

It is the same here, I don't come to look at the women, but rather to dialogue
with other people of color on a topic that we have in common.

One of the things that I like about BTG is that we have many intelligent,
mature people here and that we are capable of having meaningful
conversations.

[CosmicTraveler]

Watching this thread from the shadows has proved quite fun.

[Indy24]

that girl is extremely talented.im alitle disappointed this thread hasnt got alot of feed back tho.maybe if i posted a pic of my dick or titled the thread 'all men that want to fuck me are tranny chaser' i would of gotten a greater response **shrugs**


I've heard that poem a while ago and I thought is was cute
But for most guys it causes guilt, so they have to regroup

Sometimes sympathize as I womanize but my loins still recruit
Ménage à trois morals, they often lie in bed with the truth...

Started dreaming of sex with tgirls about the time I was 10
Those sub-conscience projections could be when the chasing begin

So growing up "The girl next door" wasn't packing dick
Yet if she had one, it would've changed my attraction a bit

So if "That Girl" walks by...
And happens to have a penis between her thighs....
Then I'm "That Guy" meant to chase her, so why lie...?

Indy~

[Indy24]

- runs from this topic -

I don't get your logic....

Your the most likely in here to rescue a cat for a tree, so why does this thread trouble you?

[thegirlnextdoor]

I've heard that poem a while ago and I thought is was cute
But for most guys it causes guilt, so they have to regroup

Sometimes sympathize as I womanize but my loins still recruit
Ménage à trois morals, they often lie in bed with the truth...

Started dreaming of sex with tgirls about the time I was 10
Those sub-conscience projections could be when the chasing begin

So growing up "The girl next door" wasn't packing dick
Yet if she had one, it would've changed my attraction a bit

So if "That Girl" walks by...
And happens to have a penis between her thighs....
Then I'm "That Guy" meant to chase her, so why lie...?

Indy~


lol.the poem was cute.
i dont mind that i dont have dick.i didnt become a girl to have inadequacy issues about my penis : P

[thegirlnextdoor]

What does any man gain from entering this topic?

We have a man hating ts feminist

A ts advocate who doesn't need a man

And a ts who's feeling these man bashing videos

Seems like you guys have already written off guys as worthless peices of shit who only ineract with you all to 'jerk off'

Interesting

who hates men? i sleep next to one ever night..........

[CosmicTraveler]

who hates men? i sleep next to one ever night..........

He meant Remy. Whose feminist ideals extend to everyone but me, battered away by how god damned awesome I am. Btw, what happened to you last night. =(

[Indy24]

He meant Remy. Whose feminist ideals extend to everyone but me, battered away by how god damned awesome I am. Btw, what happened to you last night. =(

So would I chase this Remy chick if I saw her walking down the street. Or is she the type of woman I never saw twice?

[lament]

that girl is extremely talented.im alitle disappointed this thread hasnt got alot of feed back tho.maybe if i posted a pic of my dick or titled the thread 'all men that want to fuck me are tranny chaser' i would of gotten a greater response **shrugs**

Men interested in TS do not face the same hardships as TS. So while this poem is moving to someone whose situation is similar to that of the poet, most men here are in no way familiar with this kind of situation, and thus can't empathize with your struggle.

Me personally, I understand the struggle for TS, but am not particularly moved by this poem from the point of view of this GG poet. As someone said earlier in this post, she is choosing to be treated like shit. If you don't want a man that treats you like shit, stop accepting such treatment. She should stop blaming the dude for treating her like that, and instead blame HERSELF for allowing such treatment. It's not the man's fault for viewing her as a skank on the side if she chooses to accept being a skank on the side.

The situation is different for TS, since the field of men that are willing to be "out" is much smaller for them. But GG have far more options and have no excuse at all.

[sticky]

What does any man gain from entering this topic?

We have a man hating ts feminist

A ts advocate who doesn't need a man

And a ts who's feeling these man bashing videos

Seems like you guys have already written off guys as worthless peices of shit who only ineract with you all to 'jerk off'

Interesting

*standing ovation applaud* you summed it up buddy

[CosmicTraveler]

So would I chase this Remy chick if I saw her walking down the street. Or is she the type of woman I never saw twice?

Based on an earlier post you made in another topic she may be lighter than your preferred taste.

[Ms Remy M]

He meant Remy. Whose feminist ideals extend to everyone but me, battered away by how god damned awesome I am. Btw, what happened to you last night. =(

lol Not just you sir. I do have a few male friends thank you very much :p

[Ms Remy M]

So would I chase this Remy chick if I saw her walking down the street. Or is she the type of woman I never saw twice?

Nope, I suspect you would turn and run in fear screaming that the Anti Christ has risen and that her name is Lilith aka Remy! Buaahahahaha :eek:

[Ms Remy M]

Based on an earlier post you made in another topic she may be lighter than your preferred taste.

lol Actually, due to the intense solar flux going about, I am sporting a rather gnarly deep red tan lol. Think boiled lobster lol :eek: Not exactly happy about it either, as I do prefer my paler complexion. Apparently I am enjoying too much time on my motorcycle.

[CosmicTraveler]

lol Not just you sir. I do have a few male friends thank you very much :p

Well, I don't doubt that at all... There's just a big difference between them and myself.

[Ms Remy M]

Well, I don't doubt that at all... There's just a big difference between them and myself.

And with that sir, you are most certainly right! ;)

[CosmicTraveler]

And with that sir, you are most certainly right! ;)

I know. I'm what happens when you compress a star.

[Ms Remy M]

I know. I'm what happens when you compress a star.

You referring to a supernova or a red dwarf? You know, I have a special place in my heart for Red Dwarf right? and Cat People lol :p

[Indy24]

Based on an earlier post you made in another topic she may be lighter than your preferred taste.

Meh....I was just saying that to annoy "TGNS"

Truthfully, I've got a tranny just like "That girl"

Except "This girl" Fully verse :cool:

[Indy24]

lol Actually, due to the intense solar flux going about, I am sporting a rather gnarly deep red tan lol. Think boiled lobster lol :eek: Not exactly happy about it either, as I do prefer my paler complexion. Apparently I am enjoying too much time on my motorcycle.

The fact that you use modesty and sarcasm instead of full on aggression leaves me to conclude that you might just be "lickable".

Plus women who ride bikes are hot!

So tell me, does the roar of your motorcycle engine massage your perineum?

That would explain why you ride it so much....

[CosmicTraveler]

You referring to a supernova or a red dwarf? You know, I have a special place in my heart for Red Dwarf right? and Cat People lol :p

Indeed I am a Supernova lover. The only cat people I like are the Worren clan members from the Breath of Fire series... the rest really annoy me.

[thegirlnextdoor]

lol at people taking shots at me cause i dont want to bend niggas over.

[CosmicTraveler]

lol at people taking shots at me cause i dont want to bend niggas over.

You know... there are sentences I never imagine... this would be one. But, you shouldn't assume. He might like it on his back. You never know.

[thegirlnextdoor]

You know... there are sentences I never imagine... this would be one. But, you shouldn't assume. He might like it on his back. You never know.

lol..my man seems to like it on his back but im wont get into that >_>

[CosmicTraveler]

lol..my man seems to like it on his back but im wont get into that >_>

To each their own they say. And frankly I agree with it. I've been trying to get into being a top but I can't find anyone to do it with. - _-

[Indy24]

lol at people taking shots at me cause i dont want to bend niggas over.

Where they do that at?

You should call them out on that lame ass shit.

I say to each his own but that's just me.

[Ms Remy M]

The fact that you use modesty and sarcasm instead of full on aggression leaves me to conclude that you might just be "lickable".

Plus women who ride bikes are hot!

So tell me, does the roar of your motorcycle engine massage your perineum?

That would explain why you ride it so much....

lol No, I just love the freedom, it's the closest thing to being able to fly and it is most refreshing.

Went to AAA to get my state inspection today, and the guy was trying to get me into his 'crew'. I had to pass on that though, that's how I got in trouble the first time on my bike.

[thegirlnextdoor]

lol No, I just love the freedom, it's the closest thing to being able to fly and it is most refreshing.

Went to AAA to get my state inspection today, and the guy was trying to get me into his 'crew'. I had to pass on that though, that's how I got in trouble the first time on my bike.

....lol.i think i heard this story

[CosmicTraveler]

lol No, I just love the freedom, it's the closest thing to being able to fly and it is most refreshing.

Went to AAA to get my state inspection today, and the guy was trying to get me into his 'crew'. I had to pass on that though, that's how I got in trouble the first time on my bike.

For a second there I thought you had a drinking problem... But, by all means, do share that story. I'm curious about it. I myself wanted to start an outlaw motorcycle gang, unfortunately I hate people and thus I cannot get them to follow me... also I don't know how to ride a bike.

[Indy24]

To each their own they say. And frankly I agree with it. I've been trying to get into being a top but I can't find anyone to do it with. - _-

Don't sweat it chief.

For me it's a trannies God given right to occasionally push my face in the pillow.

Anything else would be a genetic woman's role.

[CosmicTraveler]

Don't sweat it chief.

For me it's a trannies God given right to occasionally push my face in the pillow.

Anything else would be a genetic woman's role.

You know, I can't say I don't see where you're coming from. It's hard to find girls that like to top and don't want your wallet though. At least it is when you don't go out a lot.

[Ms Remy M]

....lol.i think i heard this story

:) Indeed, and that will never happen again.

[thegirlnextdoor]

You know, I can't say I don't see where you're coming from. It's hard to find girls that like to top and don't want your wallet though. At least it is when you don't go out a lot.

i guess it makes sense tho because while i accept the fact i have a penis,if given a choice i would be a genetic girl in a heart beat.

[CosmicTraveler]

:) Indeed, and that will never happen again.

What won't? >____< - nosey -

[Ms Remy M]

For a second there I thought you had a drinking problem... But, by all means, do share that story. I'm curious about it. I myself wanted to start an outlaw motorcycle gang, unfortunately I hate people and thus I cannot get them to follow me... also I don't know how to ride a bike.

Nope, I hardly drink at all anymore actually. Actually, the story is here on the forum somewhere, not good memories in my opinion lol Moral of that story, don't follow someone else lead, just follow my first instinct and go my own way.

Riding a motorcycle is easier than a bicycle in my opinion. Especially since no pedaling required. Just give throttle a little gas and the bike will go whichever way you are looking. You don't turn the handle bars to go right or left, just look/turn head right or left and lean with it and the bike will follow. It does help if you know how to drive a manual transmission, for the aspect of balancing the clutch and gas.

[Ms Remy M]

What won't? >____< - nosey -

Me getting in trouble on the motorcycle, damn state troopers.

[Ms Remy M]

i guess it makes sense tho because while i accept the fact i have a penis,if given a choice i would be a genetic girl in a heart beat.

Me too's!!!! ;)

[CosmicTraveler]

Nope, I hardly drink at all anymore actually. Actually, the story is here on the forum somewhere, not good memories in my opinion lol Moral of that story, don't follow someone else lead, just follow my first instinct and go my own way.

Well... yeah... >_> You didn't get roped in with Kunou Hideomi and the 3rd generation did you? Those guys were bad news...



Riding a motorcycle is easier than a bicycle in my opinion. Especially since no pedaling required. Just give throttle a little gas and the bike will go whichever way you are looking. You don't turn the handle bars to go right or left, just look/turn head right or left and lean with it and the bike will follow. It does help if you know how to drive a manual transmission, for the aspect of balancing the clutch and gas.

I don't know how to drive in general...

[CosmicTraveler]

Me too's!!!! ;)

And I probably still couldn't snag the two of you. - _-

[Ms Remy M]

And I probably still couldn't snag the two of you. - _-

You never know, if I was GG I would still be Lesbian, but I would want to have a child, so some guy would be lucky.

[CosmicTraveler]

You never know, if I was GG I would still be Lesbian, but I would want to have a child, so some guy would be lucky.

I'm firmly against having children, for everyone really. But especially myself.

[Ms Remy M]

I'm firmly against having children, for everyone really. But especially myself.

I understand what you mean, and to a great extent I do agree. However; if it could be possible I'd want to do it provided I was in a position to financially take care of that child.

[CosmicTraveler]

I understand what you mean, and to a great extent I do agree. However; if it could be possible I'd want to do it provided I was in a position to financially take care of that child.

Sometimes I think about it, but then I take a look around and realize just how bad a decision that would be.

[Indy24]

And I probably still couldn't snag the two of you. - _-

Word to the wise... women love a guy with confidence.

Stop doing that. Even if you're playing around, most quality women don't respond to that.

Although the two girls in question are no fans of my sexual preference or lifestyle in general for that matter. No one can deny that I find they type of women I wan't which is all that really matters.

Not trying to be smart, I just see a lot of cool people, doing that then question why they can't pull a certain type of woman after the fact.

You have to choose them....not the other way around. So essentially they shouldn't have an opinion about you until you give it to them.

Just saying.

[thegirlnextdoor]

You never know, if I was GG I would still be Lesbian, but I would want to have a child, so some guy would be lucky.

this may sound odd but i have a feeling if i was a gg i would of been thru with guys way earlier and full blown into females.as of now i have a curiosity that im just starting to explore

[Indy24]

Nope, I suspect you would turn and run in fear screaming that the Anti Christ has risen and that her name is Lilith aka Remy! Buaahahahaha :eek:

Wait, you mean like the "Lilith" from Jewish mythology or the show "Supernatural"?



If it's the one from "Supernatural".....Sweet.

[CosmicTraveler]

Word to the wise... women love a guy with confidence.

Stop doing that. Even if you're playing around, most quality women don't respond to that.

Although the two girls in question are no fans of my sexual preference or lifestyle in general for that matter. No one can deny that I find they type of women I wan't which is all that really matters.

Not trying to be smart, I just see a lot of cool people, doing that then question why they can't pull a certain type of woman after the fact.

You have to choose them....not the other way around. So essentially they shouldn't have an opinion about you until you give it to them.

Just saying.

You know... You're right. My pokemon don't have a choice but to get in the fucking ball. I should take that approach a lot more often. ( Although I've been told that for years, I just never seem to pull it off. )

[CosmicTraveler]

this may sound odd but i have a feeling if i was a gg i would of been thru with guys way earlier and full blown into females.as of now i have a curiosity that im just starting to explore

And what curiosity would that be? ...Just picture me twisting a really long moustache.

[Ms Remy M]

this may sound odd but i have a feeling if i was a gg i would of been thru with guys way earlier and full blown into females.as of now i have a curiosity that im just starting to explore

Well then, lets go all tomb raider and look for that lost arc already :p

[Ms Remy M]

Wait, you mean like the "Lilith" from Jewish mythology or the show "Supernatural"?



If it's the one from "Supernatural".....Sweet.

Dammit, I've only seen sporadic episodes of Supernatural so I missed that one and can't lay claim to it. However; I did like Anne Rice rendering of Lilith. She is a hermaphrodite vampire from ancient times ;)

[thegirlnextdoor]

Dammit, I've only seen sporadic episodes of Supernatural so I missed that one and can't lay claim to it. However; I did like Anne Rice rendering of Lilith. She is a hermaphrodite vampire from ancient times ;)

huh??? in which book?

[Ms Remy M]

huh??? in which book?

lol Blackwood Farm

She doesn't have a huge role, but when Tarquin (sp) is taken by his grandfather and made into a vampire, she shoves her cock into his mouth at one point making him gag. Anne Rice is awesome! Come on over, bring some drinks and I'll read to ya ;)

[CosmicTraveler]

lol Blackwood Farm

She doesn't have a huge role, but when Tarquin (sp) is taken by his grandfather and made into a vampire, she shoves her cock into his mouth at one point making him gag. Anne Rice is awesome! Come on over, bring some drinks and I'll read to ya ;)

Alright. I'll be right over.

[Ms Remy M]

Alright. I'll be right over.

haha well come on then, I'm feeling generous, just don't expect a reenactment from me. lol Wait a second, I hardly drink so if you try to take advantage of me once I'm all sauced, I'll have to pull a Gears Of War curb stomp on ya lol :p

[CosmicTraveler]

haha well come on then, I'm feeling generous, just don't expect a reenactment from me. lol Wait a second, I hardly drink so if you try to take advantage of me once I'm all sauced, I'll have to pull a Gears Of War curb stomp on ya lol :p

I wouldn't try anything... I'd just lurk in the shadows. =D I might also tell you I've mastered the 18 Dragons Laying on my ass style. You don't stand a chance against the Couch Potato Fist.