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[hiylas85]

Ok who ever said that tv,ts,or whatever dont have breast that they cant be sucessful is a damn lie and I dont like it at all? Just because I/you or who ever dont have breast doesent mean that we are exempt? Dont we all have to start somewhere? These other girls on here had to also so whats the difference? Just sterotypical....... What is going on?

[vidman]

Ok who ever said that tv,ts,or whatever dont have breast that they cant be sucessful is a damn lie and I dont like it at all? Just because I/you or who ever dont have breast doesent mean that we are exempt? Dont we all have to start somewhere? These other girls on here had to also so whats the difference? Just sterotypical....... What is going on?



I totally agree with you madam. I just had a heated discussion just yesterday about this same topic with a friend. Breasts don't make you a woman. I've dated plenty of biological females with A and B cup breasts. Not only that, but I have seen plenty of women with breasts that still act like guys and perpetuate a male mentality. I believe that the true epitome of woman is truely represented in the way she acts and her mentality, not necessarily her physical attributes.

A lot of transsexuals are less fortunate and don't have the means to barely put food on their table, let alone buy some breasts/hormones/implants. It is very difficult for transgendereds to acquire jobs due to the simple fact that they are considered "strange" to modern society's standards. Not only that, but there are some transsexuals who refuse to make their money by escorting/porn. They feel as if it is morally wrong. As you stated earlier, a lot of girls are new to the game and haven't journeyed that far yet. I, personally, am not a breast man. I am more fond of butt and legs. I could care less about breasts.

In conclusion, do ya thing ma. Live your life how you live it and at your own pace. Do what you can afford to do as you can afford to do it. A true woman's beauty is a reflection of her inside, not the outside. At the end of the day, there are plenty of guys out here like me who don't associate a woman with how big her breasts are.

[Ms Remy M]

Ok who ever said that tv,ts,or whatever dont have breast that they cant be sucessful is a damn lie and I dont like it at all? Just because I/you or who ever dont have breast doesent mean that we are exempt? Dont we all have to start somewhere? These other girls on here had to also so whats the difference? Just sterotypical....... What is going on?

Everyone measures 'success' in different ways. You are not providing enough context. Successful in porn, successful in school, business, in general life?

Let's say you are referring to porn since this is a porn forum. Some measure success in porn by the amount of Awards won. I don't think (?) there has ever been a transexual pornstar aside from Buck Angel with no breast tissue whatsoever to win an AVN award. I don't think Breast Implants are a requirement per se, and we should 'never say never' but I don't know of a performer with a completely boy chest that has won the Transexual Performer award.

Awards don't mean much in my opinion though and success could also be measured by financial gain. I know there are cross-dresser/tv sites that do really well and would certainly qualify as successful and don't have breast.

I can also care less about financial gain too. Success to me is a measure of one's happiness. One should never measure success in life by what the porn community thinks of them though. There are far more important things to concern one self with.

Girl, I didn't realize you did a hardcore with PK Vegas last year, I totally missed that. I do remember the first shoot back in 07 though, I really like the collar and all black look you gave in that first shoot! :)

[vidman]

Everyone measures 'success' in different ways. You are not providing enough context. Successful in porn, successful in school, business, in general life?

Let's say you are referring to porn since this is a porn forum. Some measure success in porn by the amount of Awards won. I don't think (?) there has ever been a transexual pornstar aside from Buck Angel with no breast tissue whatsoever to win an AVN award. I don't think Breast Implants are a requirement per se, and we should 'never say never' but I don't know of a performer with a completely boy chest that has won the Transexual Performer award.

Awards don't mean much in my opinion though and success could also be measured by financial gain. I know there are cross-dresser/tv sites that do really well and would certainly qualify as successful and don't have breast.

I can also care less about financial gain too. Success to me is a measure of one's happiness. One should never measure success in life by what the porn community thinks of them though. There are far more important things to concern one self with.

Girl, I didn't realize you did a hardcore with PK Vegas last year, I totally missed that. I do remember the first shoot back in 07 though, I really like the collar and all black look you gave in that first shoot! :)

"I don't think Breast Implants are a requirement per se, and we should 'never say never' but I don't know of a performer with a completely boy chest that has won the Transexual Performer award."

True, but a boy chest doesn't strip her of her title of being a woman either. A transsexual performer award isn't verification of womanhood.

Question: What if a transsexual who has developed breasts decide that she reverts back to her boy life? Does that mean that she will remain a "woman" just because she bought breasts?

[Ms Remy M]

"I don't think Breast Implants are a requirement per se, and we should 'never say never' but I don't know of a performer with a completely boy chest that has won the Transexual Performer award."

True, but a boy chest doesn't strip her of her title of being a woman either. A transsexual performer award isn't verification of womanhood.

Question: What if a transsexual who has developed breasts decide that she reverts back to her boy life? Does that mean that she will remain a "woman" just because she bought breasts?

I don't know what she was referring to. As I said, she failed to supply any real context to the conversation of being successful. I simply assumed that she was referring to being successful in porn. She has yet to clarify, and I'll add more when she does. I use that example as it is easily verifiable, and that wasn't the only example. She never once mention being 'successful as a woman'.

You can always have breast implants removed, which are supposed to be changed around the 5 year mark anyway.

[vidman]

I don't know what she was referring to. As I said, she failed to supply any real context to the conversation of being successful. I simply assumed that she was referring to being successful in porn. She has yet to clarify, and I'll add more when she does. I use that example as it is easily verifiable, and that wasn't the only example. She never once mention being 'successful as a woman'.

You can always have breast implants removed, which are supposed to be changed around the 5 year mark anyway.


Oh okay. I just assumed that she meant successful/complete woman with breasts. Maybe she didn't. But if she did, then my point stands.

What if she doesn't have them removed, then does that mean she can never be a boy again? And how many transsexuals do you know actually get their implants changed.:rolleyes:

[Ms Remy M]

Oh okay. I just assumed that she meant successful/complete woman with breasts. Maybe she didn't. But if she did, then my point stands.

What if she doesn't have them removed, then does that mean she can never be a boy again? And how many transsexuals do you know actually get their implants changed.:rolleyes:

She never once mentions what she is talking about, and the word 'woman' certainly was never used by her. I simply assumed she was referring to successful in porn because this is a porn forum. Anyone can live their life as a woman, I never made an argument about size of breast equally womanhood. My breast are larger than many GG's, and I know FtM and MtF (that detransition) that live as boy and bind to hide their breast. At the end of my statement I clearly state that I feel success is a measure of ones happiness, that is the only factor that matters not breast size or womanhood.

Yes, I know of at least 7 trans girls that have already had breast implants changed. Though in some of those cases it was to go bigger rather than just change them out.

[kittymatthews]

I have to be honest, i think men are well...unrealistic. Sad that men would rather idolize plastic than flesh. :)

Ah, but tis the industry i suppose.

I"ll keep my itty biddies. :)


it's also important to note that you shouldn't butcher yourself for men. Men come and go, but you will always be forever. I will remain true to myself and who I am because i love myself.

[vidman]

I have to be honest, i think men are well...unrealistic. Sad that men would rather idolize plastic than flesh. :)

Ah, but tis the industry i suppose.

I"ll keep my itty biddies. :)


it's also important to note that you shouldn't butcher yourself for men. Men come and go, but you will always be forever. I will remain true to myself and who I am because i love myself.

Here Here Kitty! I agree with you. I would rather my girl have her natural A cups than some fake, plastic, stiff, hard tits. Not cool and definitely not attractive.

Itty biddies or none at all, I appreciate a girl who constantly exudes woman, anyday, over a person who only looks like a woman.

[dimichi13]

I have to be honest, i think men are well...unrealistic. Sad that men would rather idolize plastic than flesh. :)

Ah, but tis the industry i suppose.

I"ll keep my itty biddies. :)


it's also important to note that you shouldn't butcher yourself for men. Men come and go, but you will always be forever. I will remain true to myself and who I am because i love myself.

u do have a smoking body i want to play with all day and night. but i kinda like the fake titty look. i also like the hormones. i feel like "do you". if you want implants and their safe ,do it. i mean, y not, its your body . you say dont "butcher yourself" but there are some that say hormones is "butchering" yourself too, you went to science to get them; if you didnt you would not have them . do you think the sexxxy trannys who have implants dont love them selfs. different strokes you know.

[bigdicki]

I think a lot of girls believe that we dudes like the plastic look, and obviously many do, but many dudes like myself like a feminine looking, petite chick with nice NATURAL curves. What's that saying about more than a mouthful? ;)

[CosmicTraveler]

I dunno about more than a mouthful... But I prefer my mouthfuls and more than to be home grown. I mean, what're you gonna enjoy more? A real grape or a wax one?

[Ms Remy M]

natural For The Win! :)

[Indy24]

This is like the Twilight Zone, on hand you've got a tgirl questioning men on the quality of girls they watch in tranny porn.(because they're not "fem" enough)

Then on the other hand it's "Hey girl don't butcher yourself for no man, just love yourself" And I'm scratching my head like which one is it?

Not trying to start anything I'm genuinely clueless right now....

[kittymatthews]

u do have a smoking body i want to play with all day and night. but i kinda like the fake titty look. i also like the hormones. i feel like "do you". if you want implants and their safe ,do it. i mean, y not, its your body . you say dont "butcher yourself" but there are some that say hormones is "butchering" yourself too, you went to science to get them; if you didnt you would not have them . do you think the sexxxy trannys who have implants dont love them selfs. different strokes you know.


lol
sorry i still find men who would rather play with hard fake tits over small natural boyant giggly ones to be sorta sad. lol.

i think it's the fact that men have started to impose this standard on women trans or otherwise and have lost their attraction to what is natrual. To me, when you start to idolize plastic sugery, it's time to reevaluate yourself. ol

and i have nothing against plastic sugery

[kittymatthews]

This is like the Twilight Zone, on hand you've got a tgirl questioning men on the quality of girls they watch in tranny porn.(because they're not "fem" enough)

Then on the other hand it's "Hey girl don't butcher yourself for no man, just love yourself" And I'm scratching my head like which one is it?

Not trying to start anything I'm genuinely clueless right now....


Indy you're always trying to start stuff.

I've never had sugury and i have no issues attracting a man.

There's a difference between fem and "female". But this isn't the topic.


A butcher cuts meat.

Hormones do not slice up your body, they develop it the way a cisgendered woman would. Thus, no butchering.

[Indy24]

Indy you're always trying to start stuff.

I've never had sugury and i have no issues attracting a man.

There's a difference between fem and "female". But this isn't the topic.


A butcher cuts meat.

Hormones do not slice up your body, they develop it the way a cisgendered woman would. Thus, no butchering.

Hmmm.........

[kittymatthews]

I know, it's hard to respond when someone is so right.


I know I know.

[peggygee]

There's always going to be somebody who has an issue with your surgical
choices.

As a post op woman, you can only imagine some of the things that I have
heard "admirer's" say.

Bottom line, "itty, bitty, titty committee", or "tig ole bitties", do what makes
you happy and comfortable.

[bigdicki]

There's always going to be somebody who has an issue with your surgical
choices.

As a post op woman, you can only imagine some of the things that I have
heard "admirer's" say.

Bottom line, "itty, bitty, titty committee", or "tig ole bitties", do what makes
you happy and comfortable.

Amen sista.

[Indy24]

For the record, I prefer natural transitions over a chick going under the knife anyday. (not a fan of SRS either)

A girl with an A to a B cup achieved through mones is fine. Hips and ass are mainly what draw my attention.

So if her body size is 34 26 36 at 5ft 6 then we need to exchange numbers.:cool:

[dimichi13]

lol
sorry i still find men who would rather play with hard fake tits over small natural boyant giggly ones to be sorta sad. lol.

i think it's the fact that men have started to impose this standard on women trans or otherwise and have lost their attraction to what is natrual. To me, when you start to idolize plastic sugery, it's time to reevaluate yourself. ol

and i have nothing against plastic sugery
? huh. how did men impose a standard. we need to take responsibly for what we do in life. no man has ever forced anybody into plastic surgery. and u obviously cant read because i stated i like both. then i said that both are unnatural. if you look to science for beauty enhancement. its fake. you are as natural as the plants in my mothers living room. i like sexy. no matter how you get there. to each their own. on BTG we have a long list of sexxxy tranny's that have been "butchered" sexxxy Jade, Sheeba, Vanilla, Paris Pirelli, Kennedy , MiMi Plastic, and many many more that damn near all dudes on here jack off to. there are alot of hormone sexy's we jack off to also. like you, Hailey, Electra and many many more. i love it all. now shut up and stay sexxxy

[Indy24]

lol
sorry i still find men who would rather play with hard fake tits over small natural boyant giggly ones to be sorta sad. lol.

i think it's the fact that men have started to impose this standard on women trans or otherwise and have lost their attraction to what is natrual. To me, when you start to idolize plastic sugery, it's time to reevaluate yourself. ol

and i have nothing against plastic sugery

Yo.....I'm sorry but you're like a walking contradiction.

Granted I know that I can say some over the top things in here at times but if somebody was ever living in a fantasy world...(pause)

If you have nothing against plastic surgery then why is it sad for the next person to like those who have it then?

Reevaluation?

Sure, lets up the anti and go to consoling together because the math on your calculator isn't adding up!

Lets be clear, not every tgirl can rely on hormones alone to get the look they desire and feel comfortable with. So if done sensibly, cosmetic surgery can improve a persons features and still maintain a nature "unclockable" look.

To me it just sounds like some people feel rejected and lash out when a guy prefers a certain tgirls body over another.

Note: Using the term "natural" in this text is spoken loosely since using prescribed drugs to develop a female body isn't really "natural' in any sense either.

[raheme]

I have to be honest, i think men are well...unrealistic. Sad that men would rather idolize plastic than flesh. :)

Ah, but tis the industry i suppose.

I"ll keep my itty biddies. :)


it's also important to note that you shouldn't butcher yourself for men. Men come and go, but you will always be forever. I will remain true to myself and who I am because i love myself.

I will take a iitty bitty fleshy titty over a big phat plastic hard titty all day

[Ms Remy M]

Why are people assuming that breast implants are plastic and hard. I've felt many breast implants and it's usually only the obvious over the muscle implants that feel hard, which also might be due to lack of flesh before surgery and/or the length of time between when the surgery is performed and when they are felt.

Also a misnomer to call them plastic, when many use saline not silicone though this is changing back to the silicone dominance.

[peggygee]

Why are people assuming that breast implants are plastic and hard. I've felt many breast implants and it's usually only the obvious over the muscle implants that feel hard, which also might be due to lack of flesh before surgery and/or the length of time between when the surgery is performed and when they are felt.

Also a misnomer to call them plastic, when many use saline not silicone though this is changing back to the silicone dominance.

Most breast augmentations would be undetectable to the average "squeezer".

There was a trend away drom using Silicon, going to Saline as you indicated,
which is not to be confused with Silicon injections to the breast, which are
also sometimes utilized.

But if a woman has been on a HRT regimen long enough (1-2 years) she
should have generated adipose tissue, and any subsequent breast
augmentation should feel quite natural.

[carmencream]

I did'nt mean to bring this back alive! but girl's kill me screaming no implants for me then when they get their money up :rolleyes:guess who's going in for surgery lol,and breast implants don't have to be replaced every 5 yrs ,only if they cause a problem or if the person wan'ts a bigger size and MRI scans should be done 3 yrs after they are done and every 2 yrs after that,or ultrasound,So like someone said b4 do what makes you happy;)In closing I a proud Card Carrier of the Dcup and above society!!!!

[Ms Remy M]

I did'nt mean to bring this back alive! but girl's kill me screaming no implants for me then when they get their money up :rolleyes:guess who's going in for surgery lol,and breast implants don't have to be replaced every 5 yrs ,only if they cause a problem or if the person wan'ts a bigger size and MRI scans should be done 3 yrs after they are done and every 2 yrs after that,or ultrasound,So like someone said b4 do what makes you happy;)In closing I a proud Card Carrier of the Dcup and above society!!!!

No problems getting your point across ever. I don't have any issues with implants, just not one of the procedures I'm immediately concerned with. Not all women are created equal, and I've dated many Genetic Girls that have smaller boobs than my hormone boobs which are so perfectly shaped and all, so I'm comfortable with myself on that regard. However; if I had the disposable cash, I'd probably go to a C cup so long as it wouldn't interfere with my ability to lactate, as that's a pleasure I don't ever want to lose. :D

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[carmencream]

Well was only speaking to those guys and girls who had negative things to say;) and I like natural breast had em for yrs lol, but implants gave me a better shape while still being soft and supple,and you won't lose your ability to lactate well not from what I've seen from certain girlfriends.Like you said all women are not created equally and some girls natural breast look great but a A cup or B cup would never suit a football player if you get my drift lol