Is this the guide on how Tgirls who top keep their man?

[Indy24]

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/4SmuPe-Hqlo&feature=related

I'm a little bored so I felt like entertaining this......Now Lets say this shit actually works.

Can some one tell me how this is any better than the crap the guys get called out for?

Granted that her response would obviously be the typical ""Guys do it all the time...blah, blah, blah".

But I can guarantee that the guy she recorded isn't the same type of guy that she's calling out. So again, how is she any better for making a fool out of that guy?

I can also confirm that a tgirl can fuck the shit out of her guy w/o losing her womanhood or sanity in the process.

This is the type of stuff that gives tgirls who top a bad name.

....Then wanna question why there's no nominations with her name on them...

Unbelievable...

[sticky]

I'm tired of hearing and seeing this chick

[CosmicTraveler]

Some want attention whether it comes in positive or negative fashion.

[DYNACORD]

That was all wrong for a number of reason's. Especially the FIRE ENGINE RED WIG.

[tsamberskyi]

Lmaooo....you can't see dudes face nor did she give out any names so who cares.I will say tho I'm not one to really top but when I do its so a turn off when a nigga bitches out.some of y'all voices be going up mad octaves, moving like females and etc.I want you to take dick like a man.

[CosmicTraveler]

Taking dick like a man usually involves being knocked into a stupor and raped. Haven't you seen OZ?

[DYNACORD]

OZ was a great show.

[CosmicTraveler]

One of the best if you ask me. I could sit through all 6 seasons without a complaint in any of them.

[jigglygmoney]

http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/4SmuPe-Hqlo&feature=related

I'm a little bored so I felt like entertaining this......Now Lets say this shit actually works.

Can some one tell me how this is any better than the crap the guys get called out for?

Granted that her response would obviously be the typical ""Guys do it all the time...blah, blah, blah".

But I can guarantee that the guy she recorded isn't the same type of guy that she's calling out. So again, how is she any better for making a fool out of that guy?

I can also confirm that a tgirl can fuck the shit out of her guy w/o losing her womanhood or sanity in the process.

This is the type of stuff that gives tgirls who top a bad name.

....Then wanna question why there's no nominations with her name on them...

Unbelievable...


she's actually on point with everything she said. Men do it to women and it works. She's also right in that there arent many tgirls around that can do it like her. I like Sasha. She keeps it real. I got no problem with what she said. Preach on Sasha!! I might have to come over to DC to get fucked up with her. Always wanted the Sasha experience.

[Indy24]

she's actually on point with everything she said. Men do it to women and it works. She's also right in that there arent many tgirls around that can do it like her. I like Sasha. She keeps it real. I got no problem with what she said. Preach on Sasha!! I might have to come over to DC to get fucked up with her. Always wanted the Sasha experience.

Considering who your default is, I'm not the least bit surprised about you drinking the same Koolaid as her.

But aye if you wanna get humiliated and punished because you didn't "take out the trash". Have fun with that..

To everyone else low on common sense. For the record getting someone high or drunk in order to sodomize them against their wishes is a "SEX CRIME"!

[Indy24]

Lmaooo....you can't see dudes face nor did she give out any names so who cares.I will say tho I'm not one to really top but when I do its so a turn off when a nigga bitches out.

....Now see this is when it starts.

I'm sure "he" cares. And odds are he didn't give here consent to disclose it in any form. Especially since she's using it for laughs.

So ironically this is the type of shit that makes men bitter. But who cares right....?

It's only when your feelings are effected that it's an issue.



some of y'all voices be going up mad octaves, moving like females and etc.I want you to take dick like a man.

More irony....

Here we have an individual born male who wants people in general to accept her as a female despite what society dictates. But it appears that the acceptance factor as far as gender characteristics go is only limited to her situation.

So as a result guys all have to be as normal as society decrees them even when she's fucking them in the ass. Never mind the fact that her very existence negates those traditional gender rules.

...I guess it really doesn't matter, you want what you want but I can't help but shake my head to the ridiculousness behind it.

[tsamberskyi]

....Now see this is when it starts.

I'm sure "he" cares. And odds are he didn't give here consent to disclose it in any form. Especially since she's using it for laughs.

So ironically this is the type of shit that makes men bitter. But who cares right....?

It's only when your feelings are effected that it's an issue.

your making ASSSumptions about the situation.you have no idea if this man gave his consent or not.instead of trying to villainize people how about you i dont know? do something as crazy as ask if it means that much to you.
she is a porn star after all whos coming out with her own site.you ever thought that hey maybe its just some of her content lol

UPDATE: yea the audio is from a film where everyone signed model release forms.sorry to kill the drama and controversy lol




More irony....

Here we have an individual born male who wants people in general to accept her as a female despite what society dictates. But it appears that the acceptance factor as far as gender characteristics go is only limited to her situation.

So as a result guys all have to be as normal as society decrees them even when she's fucking them in the ass. Never mind the fact that her very existence negates those traditional gender rules.

...I guess it really doesn't matter, you want what you want but I can't help but shake my head to the ridiculousness behind it.

i dont really have a problem with society accepting me as female lol.the groups of people i tend to have to most problems with in that regard are gays and other "trans attracted" men (see i didnt say chaser lol).
i dont need to make apologies about what characteristics i prefer in a man.i like STRONG,MASCULINE men, so what.you still want your girl to remain your girl even if shes fucking you right? well i guess i shouldnt speak for everyone,im sure some guys like it when the girls nigga out LOL!
your masculinity shouldnt go out the window because im fucking you just like my femininity shouldnt go out the window either.isnt that a point you were making earlier thats trans woman can top and still keep their womanhood? maybe you just didnt like it cause i said it? or its in reference to men?

[Ms Remy M]

To everyone else low on common sense. For the record getting someone high or drunk in order to sodomize them against their wishes is a "SEX CRIME"!


This sounds like pure foolishnes, nobody was high or drunk during that video clip that she played and the guy truly enjoyed it!

I too like to top and if I'm topping a girl i want her to sound like a girl, if I'm topping a guy I want him to sound like a guy, unlike what we hear on this clip. Which is a Grooby shoot by the way. :-)

[CosmicTraveler]

The sounds you make when taking large members in your ass may not be entirely voluntary. Otherwise I'd be dead silent the whole time as is my custom. Granted I don't make high pitched noises, but for others that may simply be the reaction. This is especially the case if you aren't used to doing it.

[Ms Remy M]

The sounds you make when taking large members in your ass may not be entirely voluntary. Otherwise I'd be dead silent the whole time as is my custom. Granted I don't make high pitched noises, but for others that may simply be the reaction. This is especially the case if you aren't used to doing it.

Granted, it is still a preference though. If a guy squeals like a girl then it just wont be to everyone's taste, some girls love hearing that specific reaction of course. To each their own, but to be sure, the guy in the audio clip is a "power bottom" that loved every moment of Sasha digging deep ;)

[jigglygmoney]

[<a class="inlineAdmedialink" href="#">COLOR</a>="Blue"]Considering who your default is, I'm not the least bit surprised about you drinking the same Koolaid as her.

But aye if you wanna get humiliated and punished because you didn't "take out the trash". Have fun with that..

To everyone else low on common sense. For the record getting someone high or drunk in order to sodomize them against their wishes is a "SEX CRIME"![/COLOR]

No, the point being that if I want a girl, I go and get actual pussy. If I want a tgirl, I do what I feel. Live and let live. Try it sometime. Its liberating.

[Indy24]

No, the point being that if I want a girl, I go and get actual pussy. If I want a tgirl, I do what I feel. Live and let live. Try it sometime. Its liberating.

Umm.....you do realize that you're talking to the got damn "Chaser" right now don't you....?

Man the only thing that your liberating is the ATM.

You wish you could call certain tgirls whereas I wish certain trannies would stop callin...

I'm President of the stroll because I'm never a client!

So for the record, I've been put in the Figure 4 Leg Lock by a tranny or two so right now your just acting batshit crazy in front of Batman.

The point which you fail to grasp isn't about the fucking, it's the respect aspect during and after the fact. So despite the misogynistic undertones... The Chaser doesn't look down on or purposely degrade his women friends. And if the feeling isn't mutual then me and said friend might just have a problem....

Now if you like to get punched and raped while intoxicated and called a bitch in bed then this conversation isn't for you.

Go plan your next hourly session, price for your dignity is just a phone call away.

[Indy24]

This sounds like pure foolishnes, nobody was high or drunk during that video clip that she played and the guy truly enjoyed it!

I too like to top and if I'm topping a girl i want her to sound like a girl, if I'm topping a I want him to sound like a guy, unlike what we hear on this clip. Which is a Grooby shoot by the way. :-)

........There's obviously a disconnect here then.

There clearly needs to be some distinction between porn and real life because to me it sounds like she's addressing both.

So she's either frauding or showing the characteristics of a loon.

Either way my point still stands.

She's clearly not referring to a shoot when she tells tgirls and genetic girls alike to fuck a guy in the ass until he's scared shitless when ever he fucks up...

And to play a recording of a guy she was fucking during a shoot as if it was a regular day in Sasha's neighborhood is a bit misleading for those who might not know any better.

True or not....?

[Indy24]

your making ASSSumptions about the situation.you have no idea if this man gave his consent or not.instead of trying to villainize people how about you i dont know? do something as crazy as ask if it means that much to you.
she is a porn star after all whos coming out with her own site.you ever thought that hey maybe its just some of her content lol

UPDATE: yea the audio is from a film where everyone signed model release forms.sorry to kill the drama and controversy lol





i dont really have a problem with society accepting me as female lol.the groups of people i tend to have to most problems with in that regard are gays and other "trans attracted" men (see i didnt say chaser lol).
i dont need to make apologies about what characteristics i prefer in a man.i like STRONG,MASCULINE men, so what.you still want your girl to remain your girl even if shes fucking you right? well i guess i shouldnt speak for everyone,im sure some guys like it when the girls nigga out LOL!
your masculinity shouldnt go out the window because im fucking you just like my femininity shouldnt go out the window either.isnt that a point you were making earlier thats trans woman can top and still keep their womanhood? maybe you just didnt like it cause i said it? or its in reference to men?

.......It's still ironic.

Is it not?

[tsamberskyi]

.......It's still ironic.

Is it not?

To you maybe

[Ms Remy M]

........There's obviously a disconnect here then.

There clearly needs to be some distinction between porn and real life because to me it sounds like she's addressing both.

So she's either frauding or showing the characteristics of a loon.

Either way my point still stands.

She's clearly not referring to a shoot when she tells tgirls and genetic girls alike to fuck a guy in the ass until he's scared shitless when ever he fucks up...

And to play a recording of a guy she was fucking during a shoot as if it was a regular day in Sasha's neighborhood is a bit misleading for those who might not know any better.

True or not....?

She most likely was referring to both real and porn worlds.

I also think she is still referring to a 'shoot' as well when you say she said "...to fuck a guy in the ass until he's scared shitless when ever he fucks up..."

I actually don't believe it's misleading at all, she saying whether in business or in private life, the goal of the TOP woman is to fuck good, hard, and not worry about looking 'pretty', or going easy, but leaving a lasting impression. As I pointed out above, in all her TOP performances with Grooby, she delivers in just that fashion, and the guys love it. :cool:

[Indy24]

She most likely was referring to both real and porn worlds.

I also think she is still referring to a 'shoot' as well when you say she said "...to fuck a guy in the ass until he's scared shitless when ever he fucks up..."

I actually don't believe it's misleading at all, she saying whether in business or in private life, the goal of the TOP woman is to fuck good, hard, and not worry about looking 'pretty', or going easy, but leaving a lasting impression. As I pointed out above, in all her TOP performances with Grooby, she delivers in just that fashion, and the guys love it. :cool:

Look if you choose to drink the same Koolaid as she then fine. But don't insult everyone's intelligence.

Does she go home with these guys after the shot...?
Do they miss her phone calls...?
Do the forget to take out the trash...?
Is she married, engaged?

The paid guys on set don't count. It's a win/win for them being that they're already willing to get humiliated.

So what's the intensive for a tgirl taking notes to get a reluctant bottom guy high so she can rape him once he's sleep, other than jail time, hospitalization or a funeral???

Look I get it... you like this chick.

But that doesn't mean she's right...even if you manipulate the facts.

[Ms Remy M]

Does she go home with these guys after the shot...?
Do they miss her phone calls...?
Do the forget to take out the trash...?
Is she married, engaged?

What does any of that have to do with anything I said?



The paid guys on set don't count. It's a win/win for them being that they're already willing to get humiliated.

That sounds foolish beyond reasoning. So, your saying any man that gets on camera with a trans woman is being humiliated?!? Sounds like you are the one with the issues...


So what's the intensive for a tgirl taking notes to get a reluctant bottom guy high so she can rape him once he's sleep, other than jail time, hospitalization or a funeral???

Clearly was her being sarcastic. Of course, you don't actually know Sasha, so probably are incapable of knowing her expressing humor.


Look I get it... you like this chick.

But that doesn't mean she's right...even if you manipulate the facts.



What 'facts' did I manipulate? I'm the one whom filmed the shoot whose audio clip she plays in the video, I know exactly what was going on and how people felt before and after the production. You are the outsider looking in without knowing anything aside from what your mind chooses to dream up. Perhaps you just feel it's wrong for her to express her opinion because it doesn't jive with your own...

[black522]

Sasha clearly have her own ideas about sex with a male and that's OK. But, I think Indy24 is getting a little overly sensitive regarding how she fucks a man. Every person is different towards a sexual encounter. Remy and Amber has a different outlook. Sasha likes fucking a man hard that's her style, outlook and opinion. Nothing to get overly sensitive about.

[jigglygmoney]

Umm.....you do realize that you're talking to the got damn "Chaser" right now don't you....?

Man the only thing that your liberating is the ATM.

You wish you could call certain tgirls whereas I wish certain trannies would stop callin...

I'm President of the stroll because I'm never a client!

So for the record, I've been put in the Figure 4 Leg Lock by a tranny or two so right now your just acting batshit crazy in front of Batman.

The point which you fail to grasp isn't about the fucking, it's the respect aspect during and after the fact. So despite the misogynistic undertones... The Chaser doesn't look down on or purposely degrade his women friends. And if the feeling isn't mutual then me and said friend might just have a problem....

Now if you like to get punched and raped while intoxicated and called a bitch in bed then this conversation isn't for you.

Go plan your next hourly session, price for your dignity is just a phone call away.

Motherfucker you dont know me! I been in this game over 30 yrs. Fucked and been fucked by a lot of tgirls including porn stars. Sometimes I pay, somerimes I dont. But I aint a trick, TRICK! More than likely your one of those white dudes the big dick black girls talk about on the stroe. How they wear your asshole out and take your money. I also have actual tgirl friends. Like going out for a drink and a bite to eat type friends. Its called living life. Try it sometime trick!

[thegreat1]

Look if you choose to drink the same Koolaid as she then fine. But don't insult everyone's intelligence.

Does she go home with these guys after the shot...?
Do they miss her phone calls...?
Do the forget to take out the trash...?
Is she married, engaged?

The paid guys on set don't count. It's a win/win for them being that they're already willing to get humiliated.

So what's the intensive for a tgirl taking notes to get a reluctant bottom guy high so she can rape him once he's sleep, other than jail time, hospitalization or a funeral???

Look I get it... you like this chick.

But that doesn't mean she's right...even if you manipulate the facts.



Ive seen the video. If memory serves me correctly, she never said anything about raping a dude *shrug*

either way, yall are arguing about how yall should get fucked. Cmon man. SERIOUSLY?!

[Indy24]

Sometimes I pay

But I aint a TRICK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

[jigglygmoney]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

Dude, ur a fucking clown. Nuff said!

[Indy24]

Ive seen the video. If memory serves me correctly, she never said anything about raping a dude *shrug*

either way, yall are arguing about how yall should get fucked. Cmon man. SERIOUSLY?!Hey if your bedroom situation is strictly unilateral then so be it...

Now if her video was simple about porn Tops than fine, This would be a dead issue. But at the 7 minute mark it's no longer about porn. And then goes into detail on how to fuck an otherwise reluctant guy in the ass.

What part of that was exaggeration?

Maybe I'm slow but to me she appeared to be dead serious about it.

[Indy24]

Dude, ur a fucking clown. Nuff said!

So you mean to tell me that you've been fucking with Tgirls for 30 years and still don't know the art of fucking escorts and porn stars for free?

Huh if I'm a clown then your house must be a damn circus.

Nuff said indeed.

[Indy24]

What does any of that have to do with anything I said? I'm looking more towards the bigger picture therefore it has everything to do with the reason I've posted this thread.

Read it again if you don't understand.



That sounds foolish beyond reasoning. So, your saying any man that gets on camera with a trans woman is being humiliated?!? Sounds like you are the one with the issues...No I am not and you no it. So if you have to resort to using conjecture as reliable weapon of choice in this conversation then this is indeed a very sad day in the neighborhood...



Clearly was her being sarcastic. Of course, you don't actually know Sasha, so probably are incapable of knowing her expressing humor.

What 'facts' did I manipulate? I'm the one whom filmed the shoot whose audio clip she plays in the video, I know exactly what was going on and how people felt before and after the production. You are the outsider looking in without knowing anything aside from what your mind chooses to dream up.
No I don't know Ms. Strokes personally but I don't need to in order to evaluate this video.

You on the other hand seem to address this as if you have a little more stock in this discussion than what's on actually on the table.
I must admit I was a bit taken aback by the subtle tenseness growing in this conversation. But I think I'm beginning to understand why now ;^J

Either way friends, lovers and fans alike tend to turn a blind eye to the obvious. You ask me what facts did you manipulate when the Devil is in the details. Thus now Indy24 is nothing more than just an oversensitive hater who's soul objective is nothing more than to discredit a dear friend of yours...

But despite a couple of observations by viewers in this thread. My stance on the subject isn't that deep or personal.



Perhaps you just feel it's wrong for her to express her opinion because it doesn't jive with your own...Well of course...Isn't my commentary obvious....

So is there an unforeseen rule regarding Youtube post that precludes me to object?

And who's to say that the guy in the recording didn't have any regrets after the fact despite enjoying her company. True that's just speculation on my part. But since I am on the outside looking in it would behoove me not throw out any likely probabilities...


You are the outsider looking in without knowing anything aside from what your mind chooses to dream up. What's funny is that I don't disagree with everything stated in the video. I've publicly spoken on the value of Tranny cock myself.

And now I'm simply addressed the things that are questionable.

You see it's not a witch hunt when a person in question is clearly putting their own foot in their mouth.

[Ms Remy M]

So what guy exactly do you know is being humiliated? Since you claim you weren't referring to 'guys' being humiliated, to whom were you referring...

The only clear objective you ever seem to have is bragging about how you get dicked down for free. Guess what, no one aside from you really cares nor is it anyone business to give a damn.

To be clear, you are the one who stated


But I can guarantee that the guy she recorded isn't the same type of guy that she's calling out. So again, how is she any better for making a fool out of that guy

So again, you don't know what goes on in her personal/business life to comment either way. You didn't even know it was a photo shoot the audio clip came from until we made it known to you, which goes to show how far off base your comments are. You don't like Sasha I'll assume cause she wont dick you down for free, oh well, you have other girls to play with, move on.

[thegreat1]

Hey if your bedroom situation is strictly unilateral then so be it...

Now if her video was simple about porn Tops than fine, This would be a dead issue. But at the 7 minute mark it's no longer about porn. And then goes into detail on how to fuck an otherwise reluctant guy in the ass.

What part of that was exaggeration?

Maybe I'm slow but to me she appeared to be dead serious about it.

My 'bedroom situation' has nothing to do with it. If u bottom, more power to you, but arguing about HOW you should get fucked is just smdh. And its ironic that a dude that BRAGS about getting trains ran in him and getting put into figure 4's and boston crabs is offended by hardcore fucking. Guess you like to be made love to while your leg is twisted up behind your back *shrug*.

But hey, do you.

[thegreat1]

You don't like Sasha I'll assume cause she wont dick you down for free, oh well, you have other girls to play with, move on.

that's pretty much the long and short of it. I still dont understand bragging about GETTING fucked for free. FUCKING for free, maybe. But the reverse? Thats like a stripper bragging that she sucked a dick for free smh

[tsamberskyi]

that's pretty much the long and short of it. I still dont understand bragging about GETTING fucked for free. FUCKING for free, maybe. But the reverse? Thats like a stripper bragging that she sucked a dick for free smh

im not really into bottoms or completely vers guys like that nor do i really give any credit to any dude who brags about getting girls for free (so easy to say anything over the internet without actual validation) i dont think anyones sexual positions has anything to do with the argument.
if he wants to brag about getting all the dick so what.being a top wouldnt make it any cooler or acceptable

[Ms Remy M]

that's pretty much the long and short of it. I still dont understand bragging about GETTING fucked for free. FUCKING for free, maybe. But the reverse? Thats like a stripper bragging that she sucked a dick for free smh

You are a trip! Its cool that he is a bottom and even that he does not pay for it, to each their own. I just don't see the need for him to knock the guys that perform with Sasha or her. She is talking about how Dick can be a powerful force of nature and when used properly a girl (genetic or Trans) can Dick down a guy and show who is in charge.

[CosmicTraveler]

Seems like this has some how gotten more personal than it needs to be. A lot more. Maybe everyone relax and remember that none of this actually affects any of your life outside of these forums.

[thegreat1]

im not really into bottoms or completely vers guys like that nor do i really give any credit to any dude who brags about getting girls for free (so easy to say anything over the internet without actual validation) i dont think anyones sexual positions has anything to do with the argument.
if he wants to brag about getting all the dick so what.being a top wouldnt make it any cooler or acceptable

you missed my point...and its REALLY not even that important so i wont waste my time elaborating on it

[Indy24]

that's pretty much the long and short of it. I still dont understand bragging about GETTING fucked for free. FUCKING for free, maybe. But the reverse? Thats like a stripper bragging that she sucked a dick for free smh


Hold up...90% of the threads on this site are based on guys having sex with trannies in any and every fashion but when I occasionally do it's "bragging"....?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zO2rhlbItBk/TOkSBLGQsAI/AAAAAAAADO4/UO2N8-SZGOM/s1600/7fdf1cf74b8d471d853976761970327f.jpg

I only deal with local TS in the Tri-state area. So the long short of it as you both see it is flawed at best. But go ahead and kiss Remy's ass for the sake of sending cheap shots at ol Indy. The long short of it is clearly that old wounds don't heal to well huh...

Well for all slick remarks about me getting fucked. Why wait until Remy has sand in her pee whole to come at me? Hell you don't even like Amber and all of sudden you wanna chime in when neither you or Remy know what the hell you're talking about.

It's like she's taking this opportunity to fight for the rights of all the tranny porn stars across the globe when that's not really the issue and you're just happy that I'm the target. And Ironically you did the same ho shit, chiming in on Sasha's Facebook page 2 weeks ago.

And for the record...when Seanchai was coming at your neck regarding that issue and Amber was laughing at your physical features did I chime in on that like some cowardly ass vulture...?

I just want you to keep that little character flaw in mind the next time you wanna bring up my sex habits in negative way. And for all your co-signing and bandwagon jumping. If Sasha was to hypothetically "get you drunk or high then fuck the shit out you"...Just maybe you'd be able to put your petty ass animosity from the past to the side to understand what this topic is really about. Because that's what she was proposing in the video clear as day. The porn aspect really doesn't matter. She's fixing to fuck everybody...top, bottom etc. and you're here frothing at the mouth simply because they all disagree with me disapproval of that particular part of the video.

So to me this is just a simple case of popularity outweighing common sense.

SMH at the audacity....

[Indy24]

You are a trip! Its cool that he is a bottom and even that he does not pay for it, to each their own. I just don't see the need for him to knock the guys that perform with Sasha or her. She is talking about how Dick can be a powerful force of nature and when used properly a girl (genetic or Trans) can Dick down a guy and show who is in charge.I'm not a bottom. I'm a verse top but since I'm one of the only few who admits it, I generally get typecast strictly as a bottom as a result.

Oh and I made it clear which part of her video I had concerns with.

But instead of assessing that aspect for what it is you make it to address everything except that hence the conjecture, word manipulation and misdirection I was referring to.

But what ever... I've posted this thread in other TS forums. So despite your overall stance on the matter and unyielding loyalty to person in question. There were a few tgirls who top that were totally turned off by the very same commentary.

So I thank you for your diagnosis Dr. Remy but think I'll go with the second opinion.... ;^J




you missed my point...and its REALLY not even that important so i wont waste my time elaborating on it

Then why bring it up at all if it wasn't important....?

Elaborate all you want but she got the point. She just doesn't want to be fake about the situation nor was she willing to team up with you or compromise her stance just for the sake of making me looking bad. See that's what you call "a show of good character" She's basically saying that she doesn't like the shit I say but she doesn't co-sign your shit neither.

And since it's quite clear now that her and Remy have the bigger dicks in this room do yourself a favor and go back to the damn shadows and let them do the sword fighting.

Because despite all of our disagreements at least they both say what they have to up front, not when it's a potential lynch mob is brewing.

That being said, you're no longer worthy of acknowledgement on this forum.

And I'm done talking at you.

[Ms Remy M]

I'm not a bottom. I'm a verse top but since I'm one of the only few who admits it, I generally get typecast strictly as a bottom as a result.

Oh and I made it clear which part of her video I had concerns with.

But instead of assessing that aspect for what it is you make it to address everything except that hence the conjecture, word manipulation and misdirection I was referring to.

Actually, from your initial post this is what I had a problem with and was all I was referring to, (by the way, you made NO Mention of assumed rape in the initial OP):



But I can guarantee that the guy she recorded isn't the same type of guy that she's calling out. So again, how is she any better for making a fool out of that guy?

and then:



I'm sure "he" cares. And odds are he didn't give here consent to disclose it in any form. Especially since she's using it for laughs.

Those are your words from this very thread, and are what made me decide to watch the video and see what was going on. I immediately recognized the performer (a friend) voice and that it was a shoot from one of our sites. Once I pointed it out to you, you tried to act like it didn't matter at all. We've all hung out together multiple times since filming, and he's still wanting another chance to work with her. I further took offense to this line of yours:



The paid guys on set don't count. It's a win/win for them being that they're already willing to get humiliated.

You tried to reply by denying you said these very words. Foolishness, and again it's you who has some deep seeded issues somewhere for feeling like "guys on set are willing to get humiliated". What exactly are they humiliated about Indy?


But what ever... I've posted this thread in other TS forums. So despite your overall stance on the matter and unyielding loyalty to person in question. There were a few tgirls who top that were totally turned off by the very same commentary.

So I thank you for your diagnosis Dr. Remy but think I'll go with the second opinion.... ;^J



It's not about loyalty to anyone, you clearly having a grudge against her for some reason. I pointed out to you that the one 'other' issue, the "getting drunk and high and then having sex" was a form of humor called sarcasm, in poor taste perhaps but a joke nonetheless. You continue to act like you know for a fact it wasn't, as if you've read her manifesto against the world and know what the evil genius is truly up to. And yet you initially claimed that:


I'm sure "he" cares. And odds are he didn't give here consent to disclose it in any form. Especially since she's using it for laughs.

So, you at least did acknowledge at one point that this video was "...for laughs" she is smiling and laughing throughout most of the video. So, until you go and ask her yourself, if she was joking about that particular matter or not you are coming off 'half cocked'. I did ask, and my point is the same, it was sarcasm. I'm not protecting or making excuses for her, just breaking it down for the less informed. I didn't overlook any part of your conversation that I took issue with. I stated each plainly, and addressed as such. It is you, who just continues to hammer on with your personal vendetta.

For the record, I don't agree with everything she said either and never said I did. She talking about liking to hear a guy squeal and making them her bitch, and I said 'in this thread' that wasn't my cup of tea, I'd rather a guy still be a guy during sex even if he is on bottom and not go all feminine, but that's my preference. Her overall message with the video is that 'laying down good sex as a TOP will keep a man from feeling like he is always in control'. Now that could easily apply for a bottom as well, which she also pointed out, but since she is TOP she kept it tailored to what she knows. As you pointed out in the initial OP, men do it all the time themselves...

[thegreat1]

Hold up...90% of the threads on this site are based on guys having sex with trannies in any and every fashion but when I occasionally do it's "bragging"....?

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I only deal with local TS in the Tri-state area. So the long short of it as you both see it is flawed at best. But go ahead and kiss Remy's ass for the sake of sending cheap shots at ol Indy. The long short of it is clearly that old wounds don't heal to well huh...

Well for all slick remarks about me getting fucked. Why wait until Remy has sand in her pee whole to come at me? Hell you don't even like Amber and all of sudden you wanna chime in when neither you or Remy know what the hell you're talking about.

It's like she's taking this opportunity to fight for the rights of all the tranny porn stars across the globe when that's not really the issue and you're just happy that I'm the target. And Ironically you did the same ho shit, chiming in on Sasha's Facebook page 2 weeks ago.

And for the record...when Seanchai was coming at your neck regarding that issue and Amber was laughing at your physical features did I chime in on that like some cowardly ass vulture...?

I just want you to keep that little character flaw in mind the next time you wanna bring up my sex habits in negative way. And for all your co-signing and bandwagon jumping. If Sasha was to hypothetically "get you drunk or high then fuck the shit out you"...Just maybe you'd be able to put your petty ass animosity from the past to the side to understand what this topic is really about. Because that's what she was proposing in the video clear as day. The porn aspect really doesn't matter. She's fixing to fuck everybody...top, bottom etc. and you're here frothing at the mouth simply because they all disagree with me disapproval of that particular part of the video.

So to me this is just a simple case of popularity outweighing common sense.

SMH at the audacity....



Dude, i could give a fuck less about amber's thoughts on my looks, remy 'backing me up' or how seanchai feels about anything i say. Makes me no nevermind. Just like i give a fuck less about your 'acknowkedgement'. You ever thought that maybe i didnt see the thread until after someone replied so it 'appears' as if im chiming in? Couldnt be that huh? Like i said, do you. Its still ironic that you're so proud of being twisted up like a pretzel, yet you're on some 'be gentle with me' shit. THAT was my point. NOT the fact that you bottom.

And again, where did she mention raping someone? Still dont recall that part. Just admit you're mad cuz she wont fuck you.

[Indy24]

Seems like this has some how gotten more personal than it needs to be. A lot more. Maybe everyone relax and remember that none of this actually affects any of your life outside of these forums.

I'm taking your advise, I'm done reading this thread.

There's nothing productive to come from it at this point...

[sticky]

after seeing her vid again I kinda see what she's trying to get at, and basically i take it as GREAT sex is a powerful tool, be it bomb pussy , dick , or head, which i think most of us know already. Just from her point of view, her style is hard drilling, others may be slow seduction, it varies from person to person. hard fucking won't get every person hooked, a big dick won't get everyone hooked, her vid was entertaining for the most part, I think maybe people kinda taking it a little personal

[Indy24]

I made an inquiry..... "THEY" made it personal.

As a "chaser" my goal is to be as knowledgeable as possible. This allows me to become a better chaser. Thus being stubborn or bias is counter-productive. Now I initially came across this video while searching for something entirely different. But I didn't go into it hoping to hate on it (hell red is my color). Some things I felt were spot on and other things were way off base.

But what's funny is that none of the people opposed to the thread really answered the thread's question.

Now if a tgirl who tops not just on film but in her regular life came in here and said "Yeah Sashsa speaks the truth, I do the same thing!" and other one said "Yeah I second this, that's why my man put a ring on it" Then that would be progress. That would have answered the question. Just because I wasn't aware that the guy in the recording was a co-star doesn't give anyone a moral victory....the initial question still exists.

And as a guy who does pursue verse trans-women, was it wrong for me to open up a discussion about it in the first place..?

Instead of legit feedback all I got was..."You obviously just don't like her" or "Oh you're just mad that she wont fuck you"

Really......?

1) She lives no where near me and odds of meeting her or any other chick on this sites is highly unlikely.
2)She doesn't even know what I look like. So on the odd chances that she was to visit my area and I tapped her on the shoulder and gave her my government name. Who's to say that she wouldn't like what she see's or hears..?
3)I chase on the field, that means up close in personal. So to be uptight about a chick potentially shooting me down on a website who has never seen me in her life just sounds retarded...

I've been cussed out by the finest and fucked by even better. So being butthurt over rejection doesn't apply to me.

I did learn some things from this thread though... One being that "No one cares what I have to say" and yet this thread has over 800 views..

Anyway welcome back Vidman, glad that issue was resolved quickly.

[vidman]

I made an inquiry..... "THEY" made it personal.

As a "chaser" my goal is to be as knowledgeable as possible. This allows me to become a better chaser. Thus being stubborn or bias is counter-productive. Now I initially came across this video while searching for something entirely different. But I didn't go into it hoping to hate on it (hell red is my color). Some things I felt were spot on and other things were way off base.

But what's funny is that none of the people opposed to the thread really answered the thread's question.

Now if a tgirl who tops not just on film but in her regular life came in here and said "Yeah Sashsa speaks the truth, I do the same thing!" and other one said "Yeah I second this, that's why my man put a ring on it" Then that would be progress. That would have answered the question. Just because I wasn't aware that the guy in the recording was a co-star doesn't give anyone a moral victory....the initial question still exists.

And as a guy who does pursue verse trans-women, was it wrong for me to open up a discussion about it in the first place..?

Instead of legit feedback all I got was..."You obviously just don't like her" or "Oh you're just mad that she wont fuck you"

Really......?

1) She lives no where near me and odds of meeting her or any other chick on this sites is highly unlikely.
2)She doesn't even know what I look like. So on the odd chances that she was to visit my area and I tapped her on the shoulder and gave her my government name. Who's to say that she wouldn't like what she see's or hears..?
3)I chase on the field, that means up close in personal. So to be uptight about a chick potentially shooting me down on a website who has never seen me in her life just sounds retarded...

I've been cussed out by the finest and fucked by even better. So being butthurt over rejection doesn't apply to me.

I did learn some things from this thread though... One being that "No one cares what I have to say" and yet this thread has over 800 views..

Anyway welcome back Vidman, glad that issue was resolved quickly.

Hey Indy! Good to be back man. Just a short vacation. Thanks dude.

[Indy24]

Hey Indy! Good to be back man. Just a short vacation. Thanks dude.

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[CosmicTraveler]

It's Pretzel Day.


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[Ms Remy M]

But what's funny is that none of the people opposed to the thread really answered the thread's question.

I actually did answer your two initial questions from the Original Post, and was never opposed to the thread in and of itself, just your assertion that guys are 'humiliated' (your words) on camera.


Can some one tell me how this is any better than the crap the guys get called out for?


I replied "I too like to top and if I'm topping a girl i want her to sound like a girl, if I'm topping a guy I want him to sound like a guy, unlike what we hear on this clip." and then also added "to each their own..." which is basically saying I don't agree with Sasha, but it's her pejorative .


But I can guarantee that the guy she recorded isn't the same type of guy that she's calling out. So again, how is she any better for making a fool out of that guy?

The other question which appears rhetorical, but infers that the male performer is being made a fool. Which was the basis for my initial reply, that nope he really does enjoy being dominated and truly had a great time with her and still does, so she didn't make a fool out of him.

[thegreat1]

I made an inquiry..... "THEY" made it personal.

As a "chaser" my goal is to be as knowledgeable as possible. This allows me to become a better chaser. Thus being stubborn or bias is counter-productive. Now I initially came across this video while searching for something entirely different. But I didn't go into it hoping to hate on it (hell red is my color). Some things I felt were spot on and other things were way off base.

But what's funny is that none of the people opposed to the thread really answered the thread's question.

Now if a tgirl who tops not just on film but in her regular life came in here and said "Yeah Sashsa speaks the truth, I do the same thing!" and other one said "Yeah I second this, that's why my man put a ring on it" Then that would be progress. That would have answered the question. Just because I wasn't aware that the guy in the recording was a co-star doesn't give anyone a moral victory....the initial question still exists.

And as a guy who does pursue verse trans-women, was it wrong for me to open up a discussion about it in the first place..?

Instead of legit feedback all I got was..."You obviously just don't like her" or "Oh you're just mad that she wont fuck you"

Really......?

1) She lives no where near me and odds of meeting her or any other chick on this sites is highly unlikely.
2)She doesn't even know what I look like. So on the odd chances that she was to visit my area and I tapped her on the shoulder and gave her my government name. Who's to say that she wouldn't like what she see's or hears..?
3)I chase on the field, that means up close in personal. So to be uptight about a chick potentially shooting me down on a website who has never seen me in her life just sounds retarded...

I've been cussed out by the finest and fucked by even better. So being butthurt over rejection doesn't apply to me.

I did learn some things from this thread though... One being that "No one cares what I have to say" and yet this thread has over 800 views..

Anyway welcome back Vidman, glad that issue was resolved quickly.

Lol you only THINK no one knows what you look like homie. That being so well known by all the girls thing that you're so proud of means you've been seen many a time. Hell I know what you look. As one of my friends refers to you as her 'cum dumpster'. So keep thinking that you're incognito and moving in the shadows.

And fyi, there's video of you out there as well lol. I just dont air people out. Only reason why it hasnt been posted.

[tsamberskyi]

Lol you only THINK no one knows what you look like homie. That being so well known by all the girls thing that you're so proud of means you've been seen many a time. Hell I know what you look. As one of my friends refers to you as her 'cum dumpster'. So keep thinking that you're incognito and moving in the shadows.

And fyi, there's video of you out there as well lol. I just dont air people out. Only reason why it hasnt been posted.

Died @ cum dumpster

[TurboMan]

Died @ cum dumpster

Damn! whatta description.

[Indy24]

Lol you only THINK no one knows what you look like homie. That being so well known by all the girls thing that you're so proud of means you've been seen many a time. Hell I know what you look. As one of my friends refers to you as her 'cum dumpster'. So keep thinking that you're incognito and moving in the shadows.

And fyi, there's video of you out there as well lol. I just dont air people out. Only reason why it hasnt been posted.
Incognito, hardly, my pictures are everywhere on the net. And from the hood of my car to the tables of local parks, I've gotten it in everywhere so I wouldn't be surprised if there was some footage out there of me being reckless.

But for the sake of your comment I call bullshit. Any chick who's climbed my back at least know's me on a first name basis and calling me "cum dumpster" would imply that she's been with me more than once... So ask her what my name is? Where do I live? What kind of car do I drive...?

Video of Indy? Show your hand then. Otherwise you're just a gossiping ho who's go nothing.

I give you full consent and if it's me then cool. At least you know the chaser's not lying and it would fully explain your animosity.

Friend of yours huh? Yeah right you probably paid her! LOL!

[Sasha]

FIRST INDY I WILL SAY THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Yt0xJKDY8
EVERY TIME YOU ENTER THIS FORUM YOUR TOPICS HAVE TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS ME IN SOME SHAPE OR FORUM SERIOUSLY GET OFF MY DICK!

*YES I SAW YOUR URBAN X POST!
INCREDIBLE HULK* REALLY?

1. I DONT POST IN HERE ANYMORE BECAUSE YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK YOUR MIND TO ANYONE IN THE WAY AMERICA ALLOWS YOU TO WITHOUT GETTING BANNED OR IDLED!

2. I DONT CARE IF YOU DONT LIKE THE WAY I LOOK IN MY YOUTUBE VIDEOS FROM LAST YEAR THIS IS A PERSONAL PROBLEM!

3. TO SAY I WANTED ATTENTION BECAUSE OF THIS VIDEO IS SOMETHING ONLY A HATER WOULD SAY WHEN I SPEAK MY MIND IN MANY OF MY VIDEOS THRU LYRICS MUSIC AND PRODUCTIONS ETC. BTW HE DOES WANNA WORK WITH ME AGAIN SO MIND YA NECK! (DONT COME FOR ME UNLESS YOU HAVE FACTS)

4.ITS AMAZING HOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE SLICK SHIT TO SAY BUT MAJORITY OF THIS FORM I HAVE A INBOX FULL OF (YO SASHA CAN I GET AT YOU'S OR CAN WE BE FRIENDS AGAIN IM SORRY) SO MUTHA FUCKA LETS NOT GO THERE!

5. I WONT POST ON A THREAD THAT DOESNT SUPPORT ME ANYHOW.. AS LONG AS I BEEN HERE I MAY HAVE GOTTEN A FEW POSITIVE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT BEING HERE.. OTHERS HMM NOT SO MUCH!

6. IF YOU NEED TO FIND ME TO ASK A HONEST ? YOU KNOW WHERE TO REACH ME..(FACEBOOK) (TWITTER) (ETC.) DONT GO ON A HISSY FIT BEING A BITCH POSTING MY SHIT CUZ U HAVE A SIDE VENDETTA AGAINST ME (GET A LIFE)

7. I WANNA THANK GROOBY FOR HELPING ME START OUT IN THE BUSINESS.. THERE HAVE BEEN BUMPY ROADS BETWEEN ME AND SEANCHAI EITHER WAY THE TRIP WAS FUN.

8. FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS BE YOURSELF AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH PEOPLE TELL YOU TO CHANGE STAY TRUE TO WHO YOU ARE BECAUSE THAT WAY WHEN YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOALS ITS FEELS MORE REFRESHING TO KNOW YOU DIDNT HAVE TO KISS ASS OR FOLLOW EVERYONE FOOTSTEPS TO GET TO THE TOP!

9. I WONT BE POSTING HERE ANYMORE UNLESS GROOBY POST ON "MY" FORUM SO DONT EXPECT A RESPONSE BACK "ITS BEEN REAL" SO IF THEY DELETE THIS MSG HEY! PRINT SCREEN LIVES ON*

10.SASHASTROKESXXX.COM ... AND I THANK YOU! DEUCES

[tsamberskyi]

Damn! whatta description.

Died laughing

[Indy24]

FIRST INDY I WILL SAY THIS


EVERY TIME YOU ENTER THIS FORUM YOUR TOPICS HAVE TO BE DIRECTED TOWARDS ME IN SOME SHAPE OR FORUM SERIOUSLY GET OFF MY DICK! Wait a minute you need to get your damn facts straight because that last issue was about you chiming in on one of my threads that had nothing to do with you so stop flattering yourself. A topic about one your vids does not equate to an obsession. So why post a youtube video for everyone to see then cry when there's the slightest disagreement about it?



*YES I SAW YOUR XBIZ POST!What's a xbiz?



1. I DONT POST IN HERE ANYMORE BECAUSE YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK YOUR MIND TO ANYONE IN THE WAY AMERICA ALLOWS YOU TO WITHOUT GETTING BANNED OR IDLED! Well aint this some hypocritical BS. That goes both ways. Not everyone is going to agree with everything you say or do either, so practice what you preach.



2. I DONT CARE IF YOU DONT LIKE THE WAY I LOOK IN MY YOUTUBE VIDEOS FROM LAST YEAR THIS IS A PERSONAL PROBLEM! I've never said anything negative about your looks, it's the words that come out of your talk hole that are subjective to criticism. But yeah I know..."These niggaz are just haters, blah, blah, I'm still gettin money, blah, blah.."

Have fun with that..



3. TO SAY I WANTED ATTENTION BECAUSE OF THIS VIDEO IS SOMETHING ONLY A HATER WOULD SAY WHEN I SPEAK MY MIND IN MANY OF MY VIDEOS THRU LYRICS MUSIC AND PRODUCTIONS ETC. BTW HE DOES WANNA WORK WITH ME AGAIN SO MIND YA NECK! (DONT COME FOR ME UNLESS YOU HAVE FACTS)What fuckin world do you live in, seriously??? Is everyone who disagrees with your comments regarded a hater? Because your girl Remy didn't agree with everything in that vid either.

So you've got a personal door mate working for you...so what. How does this work for tgirls who are not in the sex biz that are taking notes and trying to keep their man? Y'all wanna ride that mistake with the guy in the recording till the wheels fall off but seem to dance around the bigger picture here.



4.ITS AMAZING HOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE SLICK SHIT TO SAY BUT MAJORITY OF THIS FORM I HAVE A INBOX FULL OF (YO SASHA CAN I GET AT YOU'S OR CAN WE BE FRIENDS AGAIN IM SORRY) SO MUTHA FUCKA LETS NOT GO THERE! I don't inbox you for shit! Are you high??? Maybe you're referring to someone else. The true dickeaters are the ones who run to you when ever your name is mentioned and get you gassed up over "nothing". If you get that sensitive over the minor shit said in here then maybe the porn industry really isn't for you... Trust me Prozac is going to be your best friend before long.



6. IF YOU NEED TO FIND ME TO ASK A HONEST ? YOU KNOW WHERE TO REACH ME..(FACEBOOK) (TWITTER) (ETC.) DONT GO ON A HISSY FIT BEING A BITCH POSTING MY SHIT CUZ U HAVE A SIDE VENDETTA AGAINST ME (GET A LIFE) Vendetta? No this was just a discussion regarding the topic you posted publicly, why post it if you didn't want feeback??? A vendetta would be the lames who are trying to shut your Facebook page down so go learn how to prioritize.




8. FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS BE YOURSELF AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH PEOPLE TELL YOU TO CHANGE STAY TRUE TO WHO YOU ARE BECAUSE THAT WAY WHEN YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOALS ITS FEELS MORE REFRESHING TO KNOW YOU DIDNT HAVE TO KISS ASS OR FOLLOW EVERYONE FOOTSTEPS TO GET TO THE TOP!Aye if you wanna play the unsung hero role then go ahead. If you wanna go around calling everyone haters who don't co-sign your don't stink then go ahead. But don't expect anyone here with half a brain to remember you as some type of martyr. Because in some realities a bad attitude will hurt your chances at achieving certain goals. But go on and let them groupies tell you otherwise. Indy could care less.



9. I WONT BE POSTING HERE ANYMORE UNLESS GROOBY POST ON "MY" FORUM SO DONT EXPECT A RESPONSE BACK "ITS BEEN REAL" SO IF THEY DELETE THIS MSG HEY! PRINT SCREEN LIVES ON*Girl please...you had an ax the grind with this site to begin. And I see now that you just wanted to use my thread as the crutch. So if it wasn't this you would've found some other outlet in here to vent on. So don't worry, you wont being able to use Indy again to do your dirty work.

[CosmicTraveler]

My... such hostility in this place these days.

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[raheme]

It's aiight to have an opinion but damn son, you catfighting with broads? some of you muthafuckaz are acting like a bunch of

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:mad:

[tsamberskyi]

It's aiight to have an opinion but damn son, you catfighting with broads? some of you muthafuckaz are acting like a bunch of

http://www.countrysideservices.biz/PeaSticksBundle.jpg



:mad:

I wonder how many people are going to get it

[Indy24]

It's aiight to have an opinion but damn son, you catfighting with broads?

Your line in the sand is duly noted and pointless.

Now go cash in your brownie points and return to your "douche thread"....

Nothing worse than a clown who want's to add fire after the smoke is clearing...

[tdaddy]

I wasn't offended by what she said. She was just keeping it real. Also, her being cute and sexy helps her. So stop hating. It is what it is.

[Indy24]

I wasn't offended by what she said. She was just keeping it real. Also, her being cute and sexy helps her. So stop hating. It is what it is.

It's okay to be fashionably late to a party but in this case, the bouncers aren't letting anyone else in. I'm done with this topic besides there were a few tgirls who top who understood "clearly" what I was talking about and agreed...

But since no one can argue that it is what it is, why not make a bigger impressing by sucking her dick in person.

To prove that there's no hate you can even tell her that Indy sent you and be sure to leave a generous tip.

[tsamberskyi]

Dude, why are you jumping on his dick for?
You claim not to care to respond anymore but yet you did anyhow....

[CosmicTraveler]

Seriously? Is this happening again?

[Indy24]

Seriously? Is this happening again?

Ask the dickhead who walked in 2 weeks late....