Is this a transsexual or not?

[raheme]

http://a2.img.mobypicture.com/fa3ce57534de0709e9c4f54562c67cae_view.jpg

:confused:

[Indy24]

Take away the hat and mustache, add a wonder bra and most of us would be lusting after who ever that is.

True or not...?

[raheme]

You're probably right my man, the shit I don't understand is why go that far and keep the fucking mustache???

[Indy24]

You're probably right my man, the shit I don't understand is why go that far and keep the fucking mustache???


Well.....provided the bottom half isn't just photoshopped.

It could be a possibility where the individual is intersexed or XXY. Which means that everything shown in the picture (minus the arched eyebrows) could be completely natural.

What did MTO say about it?

[vidman]

If the photo is a true picture of someone and the facial hair isn't photoshopped, HELL FUCK NAWL that's not a transsexual!!!! :mad:

[raheme]

Well.....provided the bottom half isn't just photoshopped.

It could be a possibility where the individual is intersexed or XXY. Which means that everything shown in the picture (minus the arched eyebrows) could be completely natural.

What did MTO say about it?


Only thing mto did was put the picture up with the heading "what the fuck"

[Indy24]

If the photo is a true picture of someone and the facial hair isn't photoshopped, HELL FUCK NAWL that's not a transsexual!!!! :mad:

Female to male perhaps...?

[tsamberskyi]

whatever they are..all i know is im jelly belly

[Ms Remy M]

What would lead you to believe that this person is a transsexual? Was there an interview or some sort of conversation had with the person in the picture?

I know just as many men that get body and face work (pumped) as I do transsexuals that do. Granted most are gay men, but some have been straight. I've seen guys get their, calves, pectoral muscles, ass, face, and even cocked pumped over the years. Having body alone doesn't make this person trans.

[Indy24]

Meh....tried to give it the benefit of the doubt but after a little research it just appears to be a highly effeminate gay male. Who obviously felt inferior to genetic and TS females so he went and got some work done as Remy just said.

There's no aspirations to transition beyond that from what I've seen. So what we're seeing here might be a new bread of homo, desperately trying to compete with Trannies w/o completely loosing grasp of his identity... Not sure if he's the first but with all the attention he's been getting everywhere, it's certain that he wont be the last...


http://images2.bgclive.com/new/2012/04/30/89594-4f9e3ecf86377-large.jpg

SHM...its like GOT DAMN! From the waste down...and then man FOH! From the navel up!

[Ms Remy M]

Nothing new about any of this at all Indy, but I do suppose it is new to the trans admirers and mainstream public. He does have good body work though :cool:

[qcutta]

No, just no...I don't care how much azz/hips they have, if a TS doesn't look like a chick in da face, I'm gonna have to pass.

I rather have a TS with a pretty feminine face and a masculine body than a guy with facial hair and a female booty/hips.

[vidman]

Female to male perhaps...?

Well yeah. Didn't take that into consideration.

[raheme]

Meh....tried to give it the benefit of the doubt but after a little research it just appears to be a highly effeminate gay male. Who obviously felt inferior to genetic and TS females so he went and got some work done as Remy just said.

There's no aspirations to transition beyond that from what I've seen. So what we're seeing here might be a new bread of homo, desperately trying to compete with Trannies w/o completely loosing grasp of his identity... Not sure if he's the first but with all the attention he's been getting everywhere, it's certain that he wont be the last...


http://images2.bgclive.com/new/2012/04/30/89594-4f9e3ecf86377-large.jpg

SHM...its like GOT DAMN! From the waste down...and then man FOH! From the navel up!

This is truly some, "But wait...there's more" shit! I mean do what it do pimpin but I am all kinds of fucked up right now emotionally...neck down i'm saying FUCK YEA, Neck up i'm saying HELL NAH.

And the sad part about this whole thing is I know for certain that most of the same "thugs" these chicks on BGC love to share are the same dudes probably bangin this cat out.

[raheme]

No, just no...I don't care how much azz/hips they have, if a TS doesn't look like a chick in da face, I'm gonna have to pass.

I rather have a TS with a pretty feminine face and a masculine body than a guy with facial hair and a female booty/hips.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to any of the BTG models on this site but I have seen some really mannish looking BTG models being featured on this site. Some dudes are into that kind of thing, as a lot of guys like big dicks over ultra fem girls.

I just want to take my Mach 3 razor and wipe that damn 'stache off of his face fam lmao

[Rozay]

might as well got sum tits n feminize that face but naw I couldn't hit that

[qcutta]

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to any of the BTG models on this site but I have seen some really mannish looking BTG models being featured on this site. Some dudes are into that kind of thing, as a lot of guys like big dicks over ultra fem girls.

I just want to take my Mach 3 razor and wipe that damn 'stache off of his face fam lmao


And that's the whole point...I don't mind if she/TS has a big wang (been with a few who were seriously packin'), just as long as they look feminine/have a female exterior appearance (nice hairstyle, NO, I mean NO facial hair, makeup, prefer boobs/breasts,etc). I've actually seen a few TS/CD's on the strolls with full stache's and beards....and whenever they approached me, it was an automatic 'NO'!

But yea, this guy is on some centaur type shhhh...but I guess there's a group out there who's into these types (like guys who are into GG/female bodybuilders). This just isn't for me.

[Indy24]

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to any of the BTG models on this site but I have seen some really mannish looking BTG models being featured on this site. Some dudes are into that kind of thing, as a lot of guys like big dicks over ultra fem girls.

I just want to take my Mach 3 razor and wipe that damn 'stache off of his face fam lmao

Once he comes to terms with it, you'll see him on this site with make up, a bra and no facial hair to speak of.... Give it a few more months.

Picture that as you wish but ultimately he comes off as one of the more annoying stereotypical fem gays you hear of. Which is how I can tell there's no female soul in there what so every. Just a gay ass man who "loves" attention.

In the meantime I could see him occasional cross dressing in order to pull "straight" men down the line if he's not already. So the question to so called hetero men then would be, "How deep is your thirst...?"

[raheme]

Once he comes to terms with it, you'll see him on this site with make up, a bra and no facial hair to speak of.... Give it a few more months.

Picture that as you wish but ultimately he comes off as one of the more annoying stereotypical fem gays you hear of. Which is how I can tell there's no female soul in there what so every. Just a gay ass man who "loves" attention.

In the meantime I could see him occasional cross dressing in order to pull "straight" men down the line if he's not already. So the question to so called hetero men then would be, "How deep is your thirst...?"

You made a valid point. I'm thinking he probably moonlights a cd escort. A quick shave and a high pitch voice and mofos will be lining up to smash. This is a good discussion because even within a subculture you have a blurry line like this.

[tsamberskyi]

You made a valid point. I'm thinking he probably moonlights a cd escort. A quick shave and a high pitch voice and mofos will be lining up to smash. This is a good discussion because even within a subculture you have a blurry line like this.

i didnt know transsexuals a subculture...

[Indy24]

i didnt know transsexuals a subculture...

(sigh)...Please don't take everything stated here literally.

If it's any consolation to you some cultures past and present worshiped TS women like Goddesses.

Tgirls are finding guys on their knees more now than ever...

So when admires see jokers like this "half assing" it....that only solidifies the real women who are transitioning into greatness that much more.

[aaronk]

dude would be a serious hit in parish prison

[raheme]

i didnt know transsexuals a subculture...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_and_gender_identity-based_cultures

http://reneejamesauthor.com/tag/transgender-subculture/

http://www.indiebound.org/book/9780814735855

[Ms Remy M]

I'm still finding it hilarious that you guys are assuming that this person is trans, cd, etc based off of him having a "phat ass". I don't know this person so I can't personally say one way or the other, but as I pointed out earlier I've known many men "gay and straight" who got pumped, and know gay men who go out to clubs and every day life wearing heels and cute girl tops, etc.

They don't do so because they are trying to trick straight men, or cross-dress or whatever you fellas are thinking. They do so because they can, and the clothes are sexy and hot and they can dance and even walk in a pair of heels better than some females. If you go on youtube there are countless gay men dancing and lip syncing to Beyonce and other female artist, does that make them trans as well? Instead of knocking this person for living their life the way they want, some of you need to turn your judgements inside toward yourself.

[vidman]

I'm still finding it hilarious that you guys are assuming that this person is trans, cd, etc based off of him having a "phat ass". I don't know this person so I can't personally say one way or the other, but as I pointed out earlier I've known many men "gay and straight" who got pumped, and know gay men who go out to clubs and every day life wearing heels and cute girl tops, etc.

They don't do so because they are trying to trick straight men, or cross-dress or whatever you fellas are thinking. They do so because they can, and the clothes are sexy and hot and they can dance and even walk in a pair of heels better than some females. If you go on youtube there are countless gay men dancing and lip syncing to Beyonce and other female artist, does that make them trans as well? Instead of knocking this person for living their life the way they want, some of you need to turn your judgements inside toward yourself.

I'm with you on this one Remy. The only exception to the rule is if this person is a Female to Male transgendered person. Then and only then, in this particular instance, can you say that this is a transsexual. Otherwise, hell nawl this isn't a transsexual!!!! At least not the type of transsexuals we are all on this site to see and admire which are Male to Female.

[raheme]

I'm still finding it hilarious that you guys are assuming that this person is trans, cd, etc based off of him having a "phat ass". I don't know this person so I can't personally say one way or the other, but as I pointed out earlier I've known many men "gay and straight" who got pumped, and know gay men who go out to clubs and every day life wearing heels and cute girl tops, etc.

They don't do so because they are trying to trick straight men, or cross-dress or whatever you fellas are thinking. They do so because they can, and the clothes are sexy and hot and they can dance and even walk in a pair of heels better than some females. If you go on youtube there are countless gay men dancing and lip syncing to Beyonce and other female artist, does that make them trans as well? Instead of knocking this person for living their life the way they want, some of you need to turn your judgements inside toward yourself.

But I find it hillarious that you assume he/she is not transgendered based on them not saying specifically if they are/aren't.
There's a difference between a gay man putting on heels and pumps and a gay/trans man getting body alteration work done to their ass/waist in order to appear more feminine.
How many "men" have you photographed who only identified as transgendered in order to "make a few coins"? Keep it real Remy.
If you want to play the contrarian role, that's fine but, come harder than that.

[Ms Remy M]

But I find it hillarious that you assume he/she is not transgendered based on them not saying specifically if they are/aren't.

Try re-reading, I actually said I don't know if this person considers themselves trans or not. As I was saying, that is a conversation that needs to be had to determine. Hence, why I asked if there was an interview along with the picture or something to give this person's state of mind on the matter.


There's a difference between a gay man putting on heels and pumps and a gay/trans man getting body alteration work done to their ass/waist in order to appear more feminine.

There are many gay men that get pumped. They get their faces and body done to look feminine. That, in and of itself, doesn't mean that they consider themselves transsexuals. You clearly don't know much about the LGBT community, try stepping out from behind the PC and going out and socializing within the LGBT community and perhaps you will start to get an inkling on just how deep the rabbit hole goes.


How many "men" have you photographed who only identified as transgendered in order to "make a few coins"? Keep it real Remy.
If you want to play the contrarian role, that's fine but, come harder than that.

Totally irrelevant to the conversation, but it's happened a couple times and when I found out after the fact that the person had no intentions of ever transitioning they cease to get more work. What exactly is your point? Being MtF transsexual is being a woman trapped in a male body, wanting to do everything possible to be a woman, not just be a transsexual. If it was up to us, we would have chosen to be female at birth. So again, just because a person wants a 'phat ass' doesn't mean they want to be a woman. Next, you will be saying B. Scott is a transsexual :rolleyes:

[raheme]

Try re-reading, I actually said I don't know if this person considers themselves trans or not. As I was saying, that is a conversation that needs to be had to determine. Hence, why I asked if there was an interview along with the picture or something to give this person's state of mind on the matter.



There are many gay men that get pumped. They get their faces and body done to look feminine. That, in and of itself, doesn't mean that they consider themselves transsexuals. You clearly don't know much about the LGBT community, try stepping out from behind the PC and going out and socializing within the LGBT community and perhaps you will start to get an inkling on just how deep the rabbit hole goes.

So using your logic it would mean that there are many black men that get permed hair. They get their faces, hair and skin to look more white. That, in and of itself, doesn't mean that they consider themselves white men.

and can we please stop with the whole "you don't go to gay, trans or lesbian events so you don't know what it means to be gay, trans or lesbian" argument. there are plenty of gay, lesbian, and transgendered people who don't socialize or identify with said social communities, that doesn't negate the fact that their perspective is their perspective (gay, lesbian, bi or trans).

Totally irrelevant to the conversation, but it's happened a couple times and when I found out after the fact that the person had no intentions of ever transitioning they cease to get more work. What exactly is your point? Being MtF transsexual is being a woman trapped in a male body, wanting to do everything possible to be a woman, not just be a transsexual. If it was up to us, we would have chosen to be female at birth. So again, just because a person wants a 'phat ass' doesn't mean they want to be a woman. Next, you will be saying B. Scott is a transsexual :rolleyes:

B. Scott doesn't identify as transgendered. You said we were wrong for assuming this person is transgendered based on looks, I said you were wrong for assuming this person is not, based on looks. None of us knows. I am just as likely to be right as you are, given that the only facts here are the pictures themselves. If someone with no tits, injections, or bodywork and mustache identifies as a transgendered female than should we take them at their word they are who they want to be? If I wanted to identify as a white male, would you accept that? Just because I want to be white doesn't make me white and just because someone wants to be transgendered doesn't make them transgendered. We assumed this person COULD identify as transgendered because this person clearly has a feminine swag/body outside of the mustache. So it's pretty safe to say that given all of the facts we have here, you went in on us because this person has a mustache just as much as we went in on this person because they have a feminine figure and look outside of the 'stache.

[Ms Remy M]

B. Scott doesn't identify as transgendered. You said we were wrong for assuming this person is transgendered based on looks, I said you were wrong for assuming this person is not, based on looks. None of us knows. I am just as likely to be right as you are, given that the only facts here are the pictures themselves. If someone with no tits, injections, or bodywork and mustache identifies as a transgendered female than should we take them at their word they are who they want to be?

Yes you should take them at their word for being transgendered, but perhaps hasn't started their transition yet because being trans is not about how much work you have accomplished. We all start somewhere, but from the earliest of ages knew that we were women. As I said initially, there is a conversation that needs to be had with a person to discern whether trans or not (if they aren't overtly living their life as female already). Some may not have access to hormones, etc and not know how to go about getting started and typically suffer from intense depression on account of not being able to live their life as they want.


If I wanted to identify as a white male, would you accept that? Just because I want to be white doesn't make me white and just because someone wants to be transgendered doesn't make them transgendered.[/COLOR]

See, this is exactly what I mean. You clearly have no concept of this culture at all. The person is still transgendered, they just may or may not choose to actually go through the transition. If they went to a shrink, and expressed their concerns they would still be classified as transgendered. LOL at you equating a black man wanting to be white with a male wanting to be female. Apples and oranges Raheme. A black man can still be successful, find love, father kids, join a yacht club, become president, etc. There has been numerous studies that show that transsexuals not allowed to be themselves suffer from depression and in large quantity commit suicide. No matter what we do, we will not be able to know the joys of giving birth as we wish we could, finding genuine love is extremely hard no matter the occupation.


We assumed this person COULD identify as transgendered because this person clearly has a feminine swag/body outside of the mustache. So it's pretty safe to say that given all of the facts we have here, you went in on us because this person has a mustache just as much as we went in on this person because they have a feminine figure and look outside of the 'stache.[/COLOR]

I wasn't going "in" on anyone initially, when comments (by you and others) were made insinuating he moonlights as a cd escort and needs to shave off the mustache, then I made my additional comments mostly which reiterated what I said earlier. Men do get pumped, not to transition or trick straight men, but because they like the look. You guys are basically taking offense to this person because of who they are and the way they choose to live their life. Some of you are having problems reconciling your innate attraction toward his body that you have (provided the mustache was gone), so you can have peace of mind in that "I'm attracted to this trans person', not a man. This person doesn't have to be trans to satisfy your own sexual quagmire of feelings rumbling deep between your loins at the sight of his ass. You are wanting him to be trans so you can safely say "Im not gay". I'm here to tell you, you can like him just the way he is, there's nothing wrong with liking a nice ass on a man, woman, or transsexual. ;)


So using your logic it would mean that there are many black men that get permed hair. They get their faces, hair and skin to look more white. That, in and of itself, doesn't mean that they consider themselves white men.

Wrong, people don't get their hair permed to look more white, this isn't the 50's they do so because they like the style. A white person getting dreads doesn't mean he is trying to be black, just that they like the style and/or culture of wearing dreads. Stay on topic you are going further off base than necessary. lol



and can we please stop with the whole "you don't go to gay, trans or lesbian events so you don't know what it means to be gay, trans or lesbian" argument. there are plenty of gay, lesbian, and transgendered people who don't socialize or identify with said social communities, that doesn't negate the fact that their perspective is their perspective (gay, lesbian, bi or trans).

Firstly, I said nothing (this time) about attending an event, socializing with the LGBT community can be so much more than "an event" so no, I wont stop because you are sitting behind your PC and have already admitted in the public forum to not knowing any trans in real life. That directly relates to how well you know about what gay people like and what they do. I'm not sitting here talking about what its like to be a leper because I'm not one or even been to a leper colony. I've seen documentaries, read up on it, and can sympathize with their plight, but I'm not going to sit here and try and talk like I personally know their pain, struggles, mindset, and all that they go through.

Are you saying that you are part of the LGBT community and that you just can't bring yourself to socialize with them? Where exactly are you going with this? I'm going to assume that you (an anonymous) admirer of trans women aren't saying that. Of course there are people whom fall into the LGBT umbrella but for whatever reason may not be part of the community but they still know the pain and struggle because they go through it themselves (you don't). If a LGBT person that has never stepped outside of Nome Alaska and tried to sit here and say the same things you are about the person in this picture, I would reply in kind. Until you take part in the community you have no idea what it truly encompasses.

[bxboy1984]

that pic = #1 reason i take brains over booty.
ANYONE can have the latter......

[Indy24]

that pic = #1 reason i take brains over booty.
ANYONE can have the latter......

Huh....given the face and sex of the individual in question. I didn't think that was even an issue for debate. But I agree never the less...

[Ms Remy M]

The foolish ideas that a phat ass equates to a person being trans and/or cd knows no bounds. Too much time spent dealing with the fantasy of it all and precious little of the reality, I guess that's what porn is for though.

On another note the gall to attempt to insinuate a girl as not being trans based off of some unknown factor shows the true colors of contempt toward trans women, or at least trans women they aren't personally attracted to.

[DYNACORD]

What about the idea of the Mustach being FAKE?

[Indy24]

What about the idea of the Mustach being FAKE?
.................................................. .It's still a man.

What difference would that make?

[Ms Remy M]

What about the idea of the Mustach being FAKE?

You can clearly see from the torso that this person is not FtM by the rib structure. Don't get me wrong the body and face work is fab, I live! I just say appreciate the person for what they offer, don't try and change them to what you want them to be.

[anonymoussonny]

Why did I click this link???:mad: