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thegreat1
08-22-2013, 08:30 PM
Anyone else besides me wonder why you don't see ts fisting videos? You see straight, lesbian, gay (ewww lol) fisting vids, but no ts fisting. And I don't mean the 3 finger bs, I mean FISTING for real lol

Rozay
08-22-2013, 08:31 PM
it would be real hard to put a fist in a asshole

thegreat1
08-22-2013, 08:39 PM
it would be real hard to put a fist in a asshole

Ummm, you obviously haven't seen the MILLIONS of anal fisting vids out on the net huh lol

Rozay
08-22-2013, 08:52 PM
Ummm, you obviously haven't seen the MILLIONS of anal fisting vids out on the net huh lol
not my thing

thegreat1
08-22-2013, 08:58 PM
not my thing

Ok. But trust me, its possible. You'd be amazed lol

TurboMan
08-22-2013, 10:50 PM
not my thing

Agree 110%..that shyte is not a good look.

SHAUN
08-25-2013, 12:07 AM
Not my thing either, but this is a perfectly legitimate and interesting point...

I have long argued that TS Porn stands alone from ALL other formats due to its ABSOLUTE OBSESSION WITH TS COCK..

For example... how many TS hardcore scenes can you remember where the TS Woman sits on the face of the guy and he licks and tonguefucks her ass-hole before getting to fuck her?... 6? 7? And yet that's pretty standard in any other form of porn: straight, bi, gay, lez, old grannies, midgets, fattys etc etc

It's taken over 10 years to get TS sites to finally recognise that a TS Models ASS is actually pretty fucking nice and interesting and deserves to get more than just 20 seconds in a 12 minute vid lol

Like I said: TS Porn WRONGLY assumes that its consumers are exclusively attracted to TS COCK and don't care for anything else at all lol... It's like TS Porn is fighting with one hand tied behing its back lol... Thank god that's finally changing now lol

Producers: we're the same as other guys who buy porn! Give us TS cock, by all means... But also give us stretched wide TS ASS, GAPING ASS, fisting, BDSM, romance, lingerie etc... Basically, all the other styles of porn that all the other genres already offer to their consumers

blue eyed devil

Handandsom
08-26-2013, 01:29 PM
Not my thing either, but this is a perfectly legitimate and interesting point...

I have long argued that TS Porn stands alone from ALL other formats due to its ABSOLUTE OBSESSION WITH TS COCK..

For example... how many TS hardcore scenes can you remember where the TS Woman sits on the face of the guy and he licks and tonguefucks her ass-hole before getting to fuck her?... 6? 7? And yet that's pretty standard in any other form of porn: straight, bi, gay, lez, old grannies, midgets, fattys etc etc

It's taken over 10 years to get TS sites to finally recognise that a TS Models ASS is actually pretty fucking nice and interesting and deserves to get more than just 20 seconds in a 12 minute vid lol

Like I said: TS Porn WRONGLY assumes that its consumers are exclusively attracted to TS COCK and don't care for anything else at all lol... It's like TS Porn is fighting with one hand tied behing its back lol... Thank god that's finally changing now lol

Producers: we're the same as other guys who buy porn! Give us TS cock, by all means... But also give us stretched wide TS ASS, GAPING ASS, fisting, BDSM, romance, lingerie etc... Basically, all the other styles of porn that all the other genres already offer to their consumers

blue eyed devil

I agree with all you said and I've been on quest for the first porn format to which shemale porn has not followed which is asslicking / facesitting. I ve found a few things but only the brazilians have it. I think that ethnicity in shemale porn has leaped light years ahead of black shemale or european shemale porn.

werwt22
08-26-2013, 04:42 PM
lingerie - TSPlayground
BDSM - transexdom and tsseduction
face sitting- TSplayground
focus on ass- brazilianshemalesclub, tsplayground
bareback- TranssexualBarebacking.com
romance - shemalepornstar
ass gape - brazilian-transsexuals.com i think. one of those brazilian sites
hung - andreanobilisproductions, trans500
assortment - shemaleyum, canadatgirls, franks-tgirlworld etc...

these are just some off top of my head. theres plenty of variety, no question...my issue typically comes in with quality. TSPlayground and ANP definitely are top notch and where I feel the quality should be. I feel they've stepped up to the level level of top notch gg porn.

SHAUN
08-27-2013, 12:37 AM
Excellent response, but....

The sites you list are simply the exceptions to the rule...

And,

they tend to revolve around TS topping men or other TS...

So while they may be good sites, they are not what most guys are looking for.

The fantastically simple truth is: when it comes to TS Porn, guys just want the same kinda stuff as straight Porn.... except that it involves TS Women.

Most straight Porn doesn't involve the Woman fucking the hell out of a man's ass with a strap-on, does it?

Obviously that genre (Women fucking men up the ass with a strap-on) exists within straight Porn... but only as a sub-genre... a niche.

TS Porn, for understandable but incorrect reasons (at least commercially speaking when it comes to selling itself to straight men) obsesses about TS cock, and therefore cuts its flexibility and adaptability significantly.

Basically, TS Women in Porn are still represented as a one-trick-pony Circus act, catering for a very limited niche audience.... rather than as TS Women who happen to be in Porn.

As for sites that are looking to the future and representing the Womanly and Seductive qualities that, GENERALLY, guys are attracted to.... there are very very few out there, especially considering the HUGE number of TS sites available...

... But I would recommend Joana Jet and Eva Linns sites: they represent themselves a TS Women who JUST HAPPEN to have a cock... rather than continuously and repeatedly focusing on their cocks, yaaaaaaawn.

....And, they feature some awesome ASS-STRETCHING shots in their pics and vids :)

Which is what a lot of us guys want ;)

blue eyed devil

werwt22
08-27-2013, 01:02 AM
Excellent response, but....

The sites you list are simply the exceptions to the rule...

And,

they tend to revolve around TS topping men or other TS...

So while they may be good sites, they are not what most guys are looking for.

The fantastically simple truth is: when it comes to TS Porn, guys just want the same kinda stuff as straight Porn.... except that it involves TS Women.

Most straight Porn doesn't involve the Woman fucking the hell out of a man's ass with a strap-on, does it?

Obviously that genre (Women fucking men up the ass with a strap-on) exists within straight Porn... but only as a sub-genre... a niche.

TS Porn, for understandable but incorrect reasons (at least commercially speaking when it comes to selling itself to straight men) obsesses about TS cock, and therefore cuts its flexibility and adaptability significantly.

Basically, TS Women in Porn are still represented as a one-trick-pony Circus act, catering for a very limited niche audience.... rather than as TS Women who happen to be in Porn.

As for sites that are looking to the future and representing the Womanly and Seductive qualities that, GENERALLY, guys are attracted to.... there are very very few out there, especially considering the HUGE number of TS sites available...

... But I would recommend Joana Jet and Eva Linns sites: they represent themselves a TS Women who JUST HAPPEN to have a cock... rather than continuously and repeatedly focusing on their cocks, yaaaaaaawn.

....And, they feature some awesome ASS-STRETCHING shots in their pics and vids :)

Which is what a lot of us guys want ;)

blue eyed devil

theres also a few sites shemalestopmen or shemalestopguys, or something like that, and mentopshemales and i forget the one with ts and women. The content is there, it just takes a little research. TS porn only recently became this popular in the past 5-10 years. You have to give it time to blossom and from what I've seen n the past few years, its on a good track. Just keep letting them know what you wanna see and I guarantee someone reading this will make a change somewhere. I've noticed quite a few discussions we had here come to reality whether it be related to grooby or not.

werwt22
08-27-2013, 01:03 AM
the main thing im tired of with independent sites is them giving head for 90% of their videos.

SHAUN
08-28-2013, 01:15 AM
theres also a few sites shemalestopmen or shemalestopguys, or something like that, and mentopshemales and i forget the one with ts and women. The content is there, it just takes a little research. TS porn only recently became this popular in the past 5-10 years. You have to give it time to blossom and from what I've seen n the past few years, its on a good track. Just keep letting them know what you wanna see and I guarantee someone reading this will make a change somewhere. I've noticed quite a few discussions we had here come to reality whether it be related to grooby or not.

Yeah that's true.... Right from the start I have nagged Grooby sites to allocate much more time and love to TS ass, and to be fair this is happening more and more, and now it's even becoming the norm, which is great (and looong overdue btw)

I hope Grooby and other TS sites will continue with this, showing more vid time with the model posing in a position as if she's being penetrated right there and then, making the appropriate sexy sounds ("oooh" and "ahhhhh" and "mmmm, yeh fuck my hole" etc) while playing with her lubed ass-hole.... This kind of action allows guys too imagine they are fucking the TS model while wanking over the vid, so it's much more engaging for many of us guys who LOVE to fantasize about sliding our cocks into TS ass :)

blue eyed devil

blk_jnd
08-28-2013, 09:38 AM
I hope Grooby and other TS sites will continue with this, showing more vid time with the model posing in a position as if she's being penetrated right there and then, making the appropriate sexy sounds ("oooh" and "ahhhhh" and "mmmm, yeh fuck my hole" etc) while playing with her lubed ass-hole.... This kind of action allows guys too imagine they are fucking the TS model while wanking over the vid, so it's much more engaging for many of us guys who LOVE to fantasize about sliding our cocks into TS ass :)

blue eyed devil

I agree but dat shit becomes monotonous after a while, like they be reading from the same fake ass script "ooh, yeah, yeah, fuck me Daddy", Or them Brazilians with "Forji Fah ... blah, blah, blah degusto".

If they vary the lingo and be more creative, it loses the fakery and one can settle down to proper chicken chokin. Perhaps Madison-BDB oughta open a school for this.

SHAUN
08-29-2013, 12:09 AM
I agree but dat shit becomes monotonous after a while, like they be reading from the same fake ass script "ooh, yeah, yeah, fuck me Daddy", Or them Brazilians with "Forji Fah ... blah, blah, blah degusto".

If they vary the lingo and be more creative, it loses the fakery and one can settle down to proper chicken chokin. Perhaps Madison-BDB oughta open a school for this.

I know what you mean... but nothing in the world of Porn is more scripted and monotonous than a TS Model lying back and robot-stroking her cock in some painting-by-numbers zombie wankathon yawnfest lol

I don't need the gals "oooh"ing and "aaahhh"ing to be up for any Oscar nomination performances.... Porn is essentially "performance", and I just wnt the gals to put some effort to engage with us guys... which thankfully is happening more and more with grooby vids thanks to Remy, KilaKali, Buddy and Lucia :)

blue eyed devil

Ms Remy M
08-29-2013, 02:48 PM
Anyone else besides me wonder why you don't see ts fisting videos? You see straight, lesbian, gay (ewww lol) fisting vids, but no ts fisting. And I don't mean the 3 finger bs, I mean FISTING for real lol

You don't see it as much because there is a smaller base of ts porn models that are actually into fisting. Compared with the millions of genetic women and men in porn the ts numbers are tiny and conversely ts that actually want to be fisted.

Think about it, how many girls have you been with "sexually" that are featured on this site have said "on their own accord" that they want you to jam your fist up their ass?

Ms Remy M
08-29-2013, 03:09 PM
It's taken over 10 years to get TS sites to finally recognise that a TS Models ASS is actually pretty fucking nice and interesting and deserves to get more than just 20 seconds in a 12 minute vid lol

Like I said: TS Porn WRONGLY assumes that its consumers are exclusively attracted to TS COCK and don't care for anything else at all lol... It's like TS Porn is fighting with one hand tied behing its back lol... Thank god that's finally changing now lol

Producers: we're the same as other guys who buy porn! Give us TS cock, by all means... But also give us stretched wide TS ASS, GAPING ASS, fisting, BDSM, romance, lingerie etc... Basically, all the other styles of porn that all the other genres already offer to their consumers

blue eyed devil

I don't think anyone is wrongly assuming anything. Look at the rating system that is in place. Any girl that doesn't get hard and/or bust a huge load of cum gets the lowest votes on the site 98% of the time. One or two people on this forum speaking out against it aren't going to change much. People actively neglect to use the rating/comment system in place for each model, each set of pics and vids for each model.

Don't get me wrong I totally agree with you personally. The fact remains that anyone can log onto the site right now and see girls with no hormones, rock hard cock, big hanging balls, spewing cum across the room rating higher than some soft skin, no muscle tone, no hard cock, no cum scene girl. In case anyone is confused, when on hormones your cum is clear not white, creamy and large, the ball sack shrinks, there are no veins popping out on the arms, there is a loss of muscle tone lol. So many guys that girls "in sex trade" encounter crave those qualities so much, that girls will rush to get pumped or if smart implants just so they can stop hormones and deliver the cum and hard cocks that guys overwhelmingly demand. It's a vicious cycle of girls giving what the men demand. Even with guys that are TOPS that want to fuck a girl, they eventually still want to see her get hard and/or cum regardless if it's possible for her to do so or not. The reasoning I hear most from guys, is that this is how they know the girl is into it. Uh no, you know she is into in the same ways a female is into, she is squirming and making those sound effects, and if you are fucking her just right, she may leak prostate fluid from her cock, which again, is still clear.

I've met so many beautiful trans women that refuse to shoot porn because either they don't want to be featured with girls who don't take their transition seriously and/or will have to feature their own cock prominently. At the end of the day many trans women didn't become women to have their cock obsessed over, they became women to be women.

thegreat1
08-29-2013, 05:12 PM
You don't see it as much because there is a smaller base of ts porn models that are actually into fisting. Compared with the millions of genetic women and men in porn the ts numbers are tiny and conversely ts that actually want to be fisted.

Think about it, how many girls have you been with "sexually" that are featured on this site have said "on their own accord" that they want you to jam your fist up their ass?

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Ps...hope the 'attitude' I'm sensing in that response is just a mis-interpretation on my part

werwt22
08-29-2013, 07:09 PM
I don't think anyone is wrongly assuming anything. Look at the rating system that is in place. Any girl that doesn't get hard and/or bust a huge load of cum gets the lowest votes on the site 98% of the time. One or two people on this forum speaking out against it aren't going to change much. People actively neglect to use the rating/comment system in place for each model, each set of pics and vids for each model.

Don't get me wrong I totally agree with you personally. The fact remains that anyone can log onto the site right now and see girls with no hormones, rock hard cock, big hanging balls, spewing cum across the room rating higher than some soft skin, no muscle tone, no hard cock, no cum scene girl. In case anyone is confused, when on hormones your cum is clear not white, creamy and large, the ball sack shrinks, there are no veins popping out on the arms, there is a loss of muscle tone lol. So many guys that girls "in sex trade" encounter crave those qualities so much, that girls will rush to get pumped or if smart implants just so they can stop hormones and deliver the cum and hard cocks that guys overwhelmingly demand. It's a vicious cycle of girls giving what the men demand. Even with guys that are TOPS that want to fuck a girl, they eventually still want to see her get hard and/or cum regardless if it's possible for her to do so or not. The reasoning I hear most from guys, is that this is how they know the girl is into it. Uh no, you know she is into in the same ways a female is into, she is squirming and making those sound effects, and if you are fucking her just right, she may leak prostate fluid from her cock, which again, is still clear.

I've met so many beautiful trans women that refuse to shoot porn because either they don't want to be featured with girls who don't take their transition seriously and/or will have to feature their own cock prominently. At the end of the day many trans women didn't become women to have their cock obsessed over, they became women to be women.

Good post. never thought of it like that, but reality is we dont think of porn "in reality". Its all fantasy, and we want the best of everything. Its nothing against anyone specific, trans or gg,in any aspect, but when your selling a "product", understanding takes a backseat to someone being happy with what theyre buying.

tsamberskyi
08-29-2013, 09:32 PM
I don't think anyone is wrongly assuming anything. Look at the rating system that is in place. Any girl that doesn't get hard and/or bust a huge load of cum gets the lowest votes on the site 98% of the time. One or two people on this forum speaking out against it aren't going to change much. People actively neglect to use the rating/comment system in place for each model, each set of pics and vids for each model.

Don't get me wrong I totally agree with you personally. The fact remains that anyone can log onto the site right now and see girls with no hormones, rock hard cock, big hanging balls, spewing cum across the room rating higher than some soft skin, no muscle tone, no hard cock, no cum scene girl. In case anyone is confused, when on hormones your cum is clear not white, creamy and large, the ball sack shrinks, there are no veins popping out on the arms, there is a loss of muscle tone lol. So many guys that girls "in sex trade" encounter crave those qualities so much, that girls will rush to get pumped or if smart implants just so they can stop hormones and deliver the cum and hard cocks that guys overwhelmingly demand. It's a vicious cycle of girls giving what the men demand. Even with guys that are TOPS that want to fuck a girl, they eventually still want to see her get hard and/or cum regardless if it's possible for her to do so or not. The reasoning I hear most from guys, is that this is how they know the girl is into it. Uh no, you know she is into in the same ways a female is into, she is squirming and making those sound effects, and if you are fucking her just right, she may leak prostate fluid from her cock, which again, is still clear.

I've met so many beautiful trans women that refuse to shoot porn because either they don't want to be featured with girls who don't take their transition seriously and/or will have to feature their own cock prominently. At the end of the day many trans women didn't become women to have their cock obsessed over, they became women to be women.

Girl most of the men don't care about all that lol.hell to some of them were not even woman for real so why wouldn't they demand a more male like sexuality from us.

SHAUN
08-29-2013, 10:43 PM
I don't think anyone is wrongly assuming anything. Look at the rating system that is in place. Any girl that doesn't get hard and/or bust a huge load of cum gets the lowest votes on the site 98% of the time. One or two people on this forum speaking out against it aren't going to change much. People actively neglect to use the rating/comment system in place for each model, each set of pics and vids for each model.

Don't get me wrong I totally agree with you personally. The fact remains that anyone can log onto the site right now and see girls with no hormones, rock hard cock, big hanging balls, spewing cum across the room rating higher than some soft skin, no muscle tone, no hard cock, no cum scene girl. In case anyone is confused, when on hormones your cum is clear not white, creamy and large, the ball sack shrinks, there are no veins popping out on the arms, there is a loss of muscle tone lol. So many guys that girls "in sex trade" encounter crave those qualities so much, that girls will rush to get pumped or if smart implants just so they can stop hormones and deliver the cum and hard cocks that guys overwhelmingly demand. It's a vicious cycle of girls giving what the men demand. Even with guys that are TOPS that want to fuck a girl, they eventually still want to see her get hard and/or cum regardless if it's possible for her to do so or not. The reasoning I hear most from guys, is that this is how they know the girl is into it. Uh no, you know she is into in the same ways a female is into, she is squirming and making those sound effects, and if you are fucking her just right, she may leak prostate fluid from her cock, which again, is still clear.

I've met so many beautiful trans women that refuse to shoot porn because either they don't want to be featured with girls who don't take their transition seriously and/or will have to feature their own cock prominently. At the end of the day many trans women didn't become women to have their cock obsessed over, they became women to be women.

I know that from a commercial angle it may appear sensible to cater to the most vociferous cock-lurping queens and fiends lol.... After all, like you say, they are the guys that wail and nag the most when they dont get what they want (which is wall-to-wall COCK)

But, they are no more than a (very) loud minority.... I still don't get why TS sites don't just fuck them off and supply what they want to supply: it's not as if the cock queens are gonna cease buying TS Porn lol?... Look at guys like me - I've been effectively starved of TS ass for years, and in numerous posts I've begged and demanded MORE TS ass lol... But all the while, despite feeling short changed (in terms of TS ass) I've consistently spent funds on TS Porn because I am bewitched (and quite touched, actually) by their connection and loyalty to femininity... By the same token, if TS sites take the plunge and radically change their one-dimensional representation of TS Women and show them across all 360 degrees of their Womanly powers (rather than just 6 or 7 inches of it) then they will not lose the cock queens lol... TS Porn wont lose any of their consumers because guys obsess about TS Women... The difference is: some guys obsess about TS Women, period.... while other guys only obsess about TS cock....

I take your point that TS sites don't want to risk alienating their "core" audience... but you're not gonna lose any of their custom lol??? ...

On the other hand, by showing TS Women as ultra-femme babes who want to be made love to (or fucked hard and fast) by a man, and consequently showing much MUCH more ass, especially stretched open and wide and gaping and lubed etc.... TS sites may just open the party up to a whole new world of open-minded men.

blue eyed devil

Ms Remy M
08-30-2013, 07:05 PM
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Ps...hope the 'attitude' I'm sensing in that response is just a mis-interpretation on my part

lol there's no attitude at all. It's a fair and fact based response. You see it more from genetic girls and men because the ratio is greater compared to ts women. You are just automatically being defensive because I'm not "Yes Masa girls love having their asses fisted" lol j/k There probably are some, mostly what I see are CD's that are into it more so than trans women, but I imagine there has to be some ts that are genuinely into it too. Seriously, you name any girls you know that are already BTG models that are into fisting and we will ask them to do it on camera. I'm on a few fetish sites and I've never seen black trans women have "fisting" listed in her likes, and there is an option for "fisting" among many other fetishes.

Ms Remy M
08-30-2013, 07:19 PM
Good post. never thought of it like that, but reality is we dont think of porn "in reality". Its all fantasy, and we want the best of everything. Its nothing against anyone specific, trans or gg,in any aspect, but when your selling a "product", understanding takes a backseat to someone being happy with what theyre buying.

Some can separate that what the viewers want is not the real "them" but a fantasy and they tend to put on the best "performances", because they lead you to think it's all real. A great many though have to summon the courage to get in front of the camera and let their inner freak out, and it's all them as how they are, which can have it's own appeal if they are comfortable with their sexuality. Other times, they come off looking stiff and ready to get it over with. If we were to only use professional porn stars fantasy of all types would be abound, but what generally attracts people to these sites are the fact that there are so many new faces, most of which will never look to porn as an actual career, so there is only so much "performance" you can get out of them.

thegreat1
08-31-2013, 09:18 PM
lol there's no attitude at all. It's a fair and fact based response. You see it more from genetic girls and men because the ratio is greater compared to ts women. You are just automatically being defensive because I'm not "Yes Masa girls love having their asses fisted" lol j/k There probably are some, mostly what I see are CD's that are into it more so than trans women, but I imagine there has to be some ts that are genuinely into it too. Seriously, you name any girls you know that are already BTG models that are into fisting and we will ask them to do it on camera. I'm on a few fetish sites and I've never seen black trans women have "fisting" listed in her likes, and there is an option for "fisting" among many other fetishes.

I wont put their business out as such, but i can tell there's 3 that i know first-hand. And it wasn't their first time

GroobySteven
08-31-2013, 09:52 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
As I've answered you a dozen times before Shaun - this is what YOU think everyone wants to see, based on your own assumptions - and the same goes for people who want to see more X, Y or Z. I'm open to suggestions as always and willing to try new things but don't think we just arbitarily show what we want, we show on what we know sells - and that's a mixture of content of different types of girls.
The silent majority are the ones who speak the most and we see it on ratings, on views and on feedback from our advertising. The vocal majority, for the most are people who have one specific need and wish to see and believe that's everything (or almost everything) that the site should show.

When we shoot models we tend to go where their physical or sexual talents are. A big cocked girl who prefers to top or switch will generally get more focus on that, while a big butted girl who prefers to bottom will get more on that. I'm not into making models do something that doesn't really fit with their own enjoyments and likes, whether that is putting something in their butts - or portraying themselves in a way that they don't feel suits them but we do ask that all models are able to get erect and produce a cum shot, as that is what sells the most and is asked for.

The numbers and the statistics are what show us what is really working or not - the member feedback is generally just icing to try and please a smaller number of members and reach a wider circle.

GroobySteven
08-31-2013, 09:54 PM
I wont put their business out as such, but i can tell there's 3 that i know first-hand. And it wasn't their first time

It's a very intimate thing and somethign I don't believe most people would shout about in case every Tom, Dick and Harry wants to stick his hand up her - but I know a lot of girls incl. girls of colour who are very bottom and when with someone they're into, can get into this sort of play. I think it's more common then some of you believe it is.

http://aligstuc.info/img.php?img=o5r426j45344t2g4e464b4n506s2a4i4l4q506 b4u5d4l4i4t2j5g4r5q2r4e4s4z5y3s284w2s2u2a4a42384z2 43b4x2y2o2u2w2v5w5j4p5e4i426i5s2s5k4e4

thegreat1
09-01-2013, 04:40 AM
It's a very intimate thing and somethign I don't believe most people would shout about in case every Tom, Dick and Harry wants to stick his hand up her - but I know a lot of girls incl. girls of colour who are very bottom and when with someone they're into, can get into this sort of play. I think it's more common then some of you believe it is.

http://aligstuc.info/img.php?img=o5r426j45344t2g4e464b4n506s2a4i4l4q506 b4u5d4l4i4t2j5g4r5q2r4e4s4z5y3s284w2s2u2a4a42384z2 43b4x2y2o2u2w2v5w5j4p5e4i426i5s2s5k4e4

The hayle is the doll picture for?

GroobySteven
09-01-2013, 08:28 AM
The hayle is the doll picture for?


It's not a doll - it's a glove puppet.
C'mon!!!!

blk_jnd
09-01-2013, 10:45 AM
It's a very intimate thing and somethign I don't believe most people would shout about in case every Tom, Dick and Harry wants to stick his hand up her - but I know a lot of girls incl. girls of colour who are very bottom and when with someone they're into, can get into this sort of play. I think it's more common then some of you believe it is.



Das right, as I can testify. I occasionally go fuck with two very popular Dom escorts who like to bottom for me, and often break out the lube and gloves after I dundunit.

One White Brazillian, one Italian - must be some weird black master fetish shit going on in dey heads. Not my fave thang but not complaining since i get gud ass before.

thegreat1
09-01-2013, 11:19 PM
It's not a doll - it's a glove puppet.
C'mon!!!!

Lol. Hell if I knew what it was lol. My bad

SHAUN
09-02-2013, 02:25 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
As I've answered you a dozen times before Shaun - this is what YOU think everyone wants to see, based on your own assumptions - and the same goes for people who want to see more X, Y or Z. I'm open to suggestions as always and willing to try new things but don't think we just arbitarily show what we want, we show on what we know sells - and that's a mixture of content of different types of girls.
The silent majority are the ones who speak the most and we see it on ratings, on views and on feedback from our advertising. The vocal majority, for the most are people who have one specific need and wish to see and believe that's everything (or almost everything) that the site should show.

When we shoot models we tend to go where their physical or sexual talents are. A big cocked girl who prefers to top or switch will generally get more focus on that, while a big butted girl who prefers to bottom will get more on that. I'm not into making models do something that doesn't really fit with their own enjoyments and likes, whether that is putting something in their butts - or portraying themselves in a way that they don't feel suits them but we do ask that all models are able to get erect and produce a cum shot, as that is what sells the most and is asked for.

The numbers and the statistics are what show us what is really working or not - the member feedback is generally just icing to try and please a smaller number of members and reach a wider circle.

Yeah, you're so right :)

The more I think about it:


Me, being into a gal's ass and legs and hips?... Yes, you're right, that's only MY fetish; it's highly unlikely that other guys are gonna be into something as kinky and leftfield as that!

And me, being into femme gals who desire me to slide my cock into them?.... Yeah, that's a really exteme NICHE fetish I have there lol

And me, being into gals who want to seduce me using all 360 degrees of their Feminine sexual power and skills?... Yep, again, that's a really very very rare fetish that only I should expect to have!... Surely other guys don't share that oh-so kinky taboo as well lol

Let's all face the (uncomfortable) truth, shall we? The vast vaaaast majority of "straight" men would no doubt desire sex with many TS models... BUT, they would stay very quiet and secretive about it, largely because they are too fragile in their sense of masculinity (I can understand that; I used to be the same in my teens and twenties)...

So even if such secretive guys do pluck up the "courage" to subscribe to a TS site, they are not going to stick their heads above the fence and engage in the forum or discuss their desires, because they feel (stupidly) that such interaction would blow their cover lol... Such guys (i.e. most "straight" guys) only want to come and go very quietly in and out of the TS fantasy world... Apart from paying for their subscription, they don't want to engage with it on any level...

Meanwhile, there are a gazillion more "straight" guys who can't even pluck up the courage or muster the curiousity to check out a TS site in the first place, because they know that such sites are pretty much all about COCK (and, for the most part, they're right!)

... So all these "straight" guys don't feel "invited" to the TS party, because they instinctively feel that their "straight" desires will not be accomodated.

TS Porn is not in and of itself a niche (or at least it needn't be)... But it has made itseld into a niche by carving out a vey specific and consistent portrayal of TS Women as "COCKS who-happen-to-have-a-woman-attached".... TS Porn has done this to itself... For all of society's prejudices and ignorance, ultimately, TS Porn is at least 50% responsible for its own ghettoization.

As long as this image persists, "straight" men will sense that they are not invited to the TS party... They just cannot relate to it; they can just about get their heads around the concept of a sexy babe with a cock (so long as she's femme)... But they cannot understand a 12 minute solo vid consisting of 11 minutes of cock... It alienates them... They are even more turned off when they see examples of TS hardcore showing a man getting his manly ass-hole ploughed out... Straight men simply can't, or wont, come to the party as long as they perceive TS Porn in this way.

And it will stay this way as long as desires such as my own (i.e. very ordinary and general and natural masculine desires towards Femmes) are interpreted by TS site-owners as somehow "niche", and applicable only to me???

You continue to try to misrepresent my desires as if they are somehow akin to wanting to see more TS dressed as nuns or more TS amputees lol??

The truth is my desires are only extreme in regard to how BASIC and GENERAL they are lol... Generally that's what guys want from TS Porn: the exact same as straight Porn... but with a TS Woman.

When TS Porn becomes like this (and is perceived to be like this) then "straight" guys will feel they are also invited to the Party... and TS Porn that focuses on COCK can take it's rightful place as a NICHE within TS Porn, rather than at the epicentre of it.

Everbody wins.

But that's enough for now; I've got to get back to my wank... I have a really kinky and rare fetish, almost taboo!.... I... I'm almost ashamed to say it... I have a thing for Femme Ass!!!! (blushes)

(I guess it must just be me?)

blue eyed devil

Ms Remy M
09-02-2013, 07:37 PM
I wont put their business out as such, but i can tell there's 3 that i know first-hand. And it wasn't their first time

ok, so send a pm lol why would you deliberately prevent the type of content you are asking for... :confused:

Ms Remy M
09-02-2013, 07:47 PM
Yeah, you're so right :)

So even if such secretive guys do pluck up the "courage" to subscribe to a TS site, they are not going to stick their heads above the fence and engage in the forum or discuss their desires, because they feel (stupidly) that such interaction would blow their cover lol... Such guys (i.e. most "straight" guys) only want to come and go very quietly in and out of the TS fantasy world... Apart from paying for their subscription, they don't want to engage with it on any level...

Why would they feel this way. It's not like any of the guys on the forum are giving any real information about themselves on here. There's a lot of braggadocio and sharing stories, but at the end of the day, it could all very well just be make believe to make themselves seem "cool" or "important" amongst the fellas. For all anyone knows most of the guys here may not have ever actually been with a ts themselves. It's easy to make up stuff on the internet, as most everyone is anonymous. So their courage really isn't a factor. Most likely, the hundreds of subscribers like the site just fine and feel no need to say anything one way or the other...

SHAUN
09-02-2013, 11:03 PM
They're not protecting their fragile chicken-shit sense of masculinity from you or me or any others... They're not lying to us... They're lying to themselves....

By vocalizing (or even nagging, in my case lol) about what they desire, they would feel they have "come out"... and "straight" guys don't want to go there... so they stay in the shadows, ducking in and out of TS Fantasy World, unseen and unheard, like it's some kinda crack habit lol

And those hundreds of members?... Could easily swell tenfold if/when "straight" guys get their invite to the party.

Of course, there'll always be a demand for TS Porn that literally revolves and orbits and obsesses about COCK (and aggresive TS Tops).... but only as a niche within TS Porn, a sub-genre within the mainfield, as opposed to assuming and commanding a position at the very epicentre of it.

blue eyed devil

GroobySteven
09-03-2013, 09:37 AM
Sorry Shaun, I read the first line and not wasting time or any further effort reading the rest or replying further than I've already done.
Good luck.

TurboMan
09-03-2013, 10:53 AM
Why would they feel this way. It's not like any of the guys on the forum are giving any real information about themselves on here. There's a lot of braggadocio and sharing stories, but at the end of the day, it could all very well just be make believe to make themselves seem "cool" or "important" amongst the fellas. For all anyone knows most of the guys here may not have ever actually been with a ts themselves. It's easy to make up stuff on the internet, as most everyone is anonymous. So their courage really isn't a factor. Most likely, the hundreds of subscribers like the site just fine and feel no need to say anything one way or the other...

Thanks Ms.Remy you are on point..hope that Piss Ant's got the message..naw wait that will be like asking too much..SMDH!

thegreat1
09-04-2013, 02:18 AM
I'll send it via pm