Kim Carta Fan

[Larryp]

Just curious. I love me some Kim Carta. Sexy, dark-skinned woman. Love to see her stroke her delicious dick or to fuck some dude silly. The woman just knows how to fuck. Watching her ass bounce up and down and round and round drives me crazy. I also like her personality. She enjoys making a man feel good. Love it.

[chubbychaser]

I mean if that's what ya into...... But beware, hopefully you don't come across something i did.

[andraie1]

fill me in on what u came across it might be the same as what i did !

[ty-clone]

I mean if that's what ya into...... But beware, hopefully you don't come across something i did.

fam dont do us dirty like that. u cant make that type of statement & not say what happen

[chubbychaser]

Hey i talked about it before, but most of you guys didn't care. It was as if comes along with the territory but when i see someone as a thug or a guy, i never see them the same afterwards. If you are both i'd just rather have the idea of you being just a tgirl.

[ty-clone]

Hey i talked about it before, but most of you guys didn't care. It was as if comes along with the territory but when i see someone as a thug or a guy, i never see them the same afterwards. If you are both i'd just rather have the idea of you being just a tgirl.

oh ok, yeah i did see the same a while back. i barely remember cause once i open the link i click close immediately. luckily for me i dont have that image in my head. with all that said kim carta is a beautiful women and thats all i see of her

[Larryp]

I mean if that's what ya into...... But beware, hopefully you don't come across something i did.

I have no idea what you are talking about my friend. I'll take your response to mean that you are not a fan of Kim Carta. Care to explain?

As I said in my original post--I think Kim Carta is a sexy black woman who knows how to fuck. Am I into that? Absolutely. Would love to feel her open me up and slide deep inside my ass. I get hard just thinking about it!! Peace.

[Larryp]

Here's a link to my girl. She just knows how to fuck and enjoys making love to an ass----would love to feel her deep in my own ass. That white boy in the movie is craving her dick bad!! I could watch her ass bump and pop all day. That's a beautiful, sexy black woman's ass--connected on the front side to a 9" cock!!. Would also love to eat her ass while she is stroking someone else's ass. Or, take that nice load of sperm in my mouth. Mmmmmmmm! Enjoy the link.

http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=ZxH1I-G877-

[chubbychaser]

Well here's another link/links of "Ya Girl"

http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=CN1Rs-C881-

http://sexliesandalibis.blogspot.com/2012/02/amateur-porn-starescort-marcusxxl.html

Like i said before this tranny shit is A HUSTLE!!!

[tsamberskyi]

Well here's another link/links of "Ya Girl"

http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=CN1Rs-C881-

http://sexliesandalibis.blogspot.com/2012/02/amateur-porn-starescort-marcusxxl.html

Like i said before this tranny shit is A HUSTLE!!!

maybe for some but I've been a girl for years now..I go to school as a woman, my id says female and my dad calls me his daughter :).
don't make assumptions about everyone based on a few

[chubbychaser]

maybe for some but I've been a girl for years now..I go to school as a woman, my id says female and my dad calls me his daughter :).
don't make assumptions about everyone based on a few

I never speak in absolutes , but i am saying in general. I think it's a hustle, they know we have that fetish, and most of these trannys id say are part time because of that reason, IT'S TO GET THEY MONEY UP. They don't take this being a female transgender shit serious. From my conversation with some of them , they see themselves as men and think any guy dealings with them is gay. Hench the reasons why they try to out guys alot. That's why i say it's a big hustle.They know guys like a woman with dick and like being dominated by women and have that fantasy so for the time being they'll make themselves up get all soft and feminine AND GET THAT PAPER UP from us simple ass dudes thats trying to live up on that fantasy.... QUITE genius if you ask me

[Larryp]

Well here's another link/links of "Ya Girl"

http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=CN1Rs-C881-

http://sexliesandalibis.blogspot.com/2012/02/amateur-porn-starescort-marcusxxl.html

Like i said before this tranny shit is A HUSTLE!!!

Thanks for the links my friend--I had not seen them before. I still don't think I agree with your comment "all this tranny shit is a hustle." Everything in life could be considered a "hustle."

I'm bisexual, so the fact that Kim Carta is also a male escort called Marcus doesn't really bother me. I like her ass either way, and would still love to feel her sexy dick deep inside me. I'm still attracted to her dressed up and acting like a woman, and think she's pretty damn hot..... Peace.

[Ms Remy M]

I never speak in absolutes , but i am saying in general. I think it's a hustle, they know we have that fetish, and most of these trannys id say are part time because of that reason, IT'S TO GET THEY MONEY UP. They don't take this being a female transgender shit serious. From my conversation with some of them , they see themselves as men and think any guy dealings with them is gay. Hench the reasons why they try to out guys alot. That's why i say it's a big hustle.They know guys like a woman with dick and like being dominated by women and have that fantasy so for the time being they'll make themselves up get all soft and feminine AND GET THAT PAPER UP from us simple ass dudes thats trying to live up on that fantasy.... QUITE genius if you ask me

You have shown all of one example and therefore impart this generalization across all transsexuals. Foolishness. These people you are speaking with aren't transsexuals if they view themselves as men, quite simply because trans women view ourselves as women. You should probably step your game up and only talk to actual transsexuals lol

[chubbychaser]

You have shown all of one example and therefore impart this generalization across all transsexuals. Foolishness. These people you are speaking with aren't transsexuals if they view themselves as men, quite simply because trans women view ourselves as women. You should probably step your game up and only talk to actual transsexuals lol

Remy....If i feel it's the majority , I CAN'T HELP BUT GENERALIZE. And i have tons of examples NOT JUST THIS ONE to back up why i feel it's the majority. Not all , not all!!LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.. NOT ALLL!!lol..But too many. The title transsexual is being used like "Bad bitch", "Barbie" etc nowadays, so you might think you talking to authentic one , then one day you see the same person with a fitted hat talking to some hoes on the block and feel like u been violated. That's how i feel , when messing with a tgirl or one i though was one but they not really a tgirl JUST PART TIME. This happens alot a brotha be jerkin his dick to all these tranny he fantasize about and come across a video of them being straight up thugs gettin in some guys ass saying "nigga" every 5 secs. Ya just feel took! hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!!!!!

[chubbychaser]

You know what i just might make a thread on why i think being a transsexual for most IS A HUSTLE!! Very controversial topic, which is why i don't want to do it but..... you know what imma let it go.This is a thread for a guys that a fan of this person and im fuckin it up. Mybad man NEVERMIND ME!!

[tsamberskyi]

Remy....If i feel it's the majority , I CAN'T HELP BUT GENERALIZE. And i have tons of examples NOT JUST THIS ONE to back up why i feel it's the majority. Not all , not all!!LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.. NOT ALLL!!lol..But too many. The title transsexual is being used like "Bad bitch", "Barbie" etc nowadays, so you might think you talking to authentic one , then one day you see the same person with a fitted hat talking to some hoes on the block and feel like u been violated. That's how i feel , when messing with a tgirl or one i though was one but they not really a tgirl JUST PART TIME. This happens alot a brotha be jerkin his dick to all these tranny he fantasize about and come across a video of them being straight up thugs gettin in some guys ass saying "nigga" every 5 secs. Ya just feel took! hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!!!!!

is it really that hard to tell if a girl is really a ts lol. i feel like if you really talk to someone and feel their vibe you can get a feel. plus having actual tits is usually a good sign lol

[chubbychaser]

is it really that hard to tell if a girl is really a ts lol. i feel like if you really talk to someone and feel their vibe you can get a feel. plus having actual tits is usually a good sign lol

Amber you right, but i've seen it ALL!!Titties don't mean shit, i've seen the same behavior in tgirls with tits living a double lifestyle!!And to be honest i dont like big fake titties either. I mean if we going by vibe that's gonna be hard for me because most tgirls give off a "ex gay" vibe to me. I not trying to be silly, but most have that lingo. Know what i mean it's that "Yaaa honey chile, whats the teaaaaa gurlllll, i gotta get my coinsss honey" that flamboyant style of talk MOST I SEEN HAVE IT. But then again i only like black tgirls so that might be the problem. I mean i have no problem with them living a double lifestyle BUT FOR GOD SAKE DON'TTTT LET ME SEE YOU AS A GUY. You can be a guy allllllllll day long as long as i don't see you as one, cause once i do IM GONNA FEEL VIOLATED!!!

[thepiedpiper]

I wouldn't go as far as genralising but I'd probably say Kim Carta is in it for the hustle. As Amber says though, it's all about the vibe a 'ts' gives when you are speaking to her, body language etc. Just from the vibe Amber (and Remy) give off when writing in the forum lets you know it's no hustle shit as you say chubby.

There are obviously various other arguments that you can add to the mix. As being transgendered becomes more socially accepted gender lines are blurred further, you have those tg's who consider themselves neither female or male and more a '3rd gender' or somewhere in the middle. You have those who want SRS, those who do not, those who take hormones, those who do not and so on and so forth. As i said before in your previous post (I think) there is a consensus that in some cities in Brasil that 'Travesti' women are just in it for the money and have breast implants, minor FFS during their peak sexual years then de-transistion as they get older. I'm not saying this is done thing in general but again I'm sure it would come down to vibe these women give off.

In an era of gender roles becoming more and more parallel there will always be subtle behaviour and personality traits that women have over men and you're not going to find these in a 'out for the hustle' Tranny.

[mick foleyv2]

Remy....If i feel it's the majority , I CAN'T HELP BUT GENERALIZE. And i have tons of examples NOT JUST THIS ONE to back up why i feel it's the majority. Not all , not all!!LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.. NOT ALLL!!lol..But too many. The title transsexual is being used like "Bad bitch", "Barbie" etc nowadays, so you might think you talking to authentic one , then one day you see the same person with a fitted hat talking to some hoes on the block and feel like u been violated. That's how i feel , when messing with a tgirl or one i though was one but they not really a tgirl JUST PART TIME. This happens alot a brotha be jerkin his dick to all these tranny he fantasize about and come across a video of them being straight up thugs gettin in some guys ass saying "nigga" every 5 secs. Ya just feel took! hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!!!!!

lmao this nigga said run amok

[Ms Remy M]

I wouldn't go as far as genralising but I'd probably say Kim Carta is in it for the hustle. As Amber says though, it's all about the vibe a 'ts' gives when you are speaking to her, body language etc. Just from the vibe Amber (and Remy) give off when writing in the forum lets you know it's no hustle shit as you say chubby.

There are obviously various other arguments that you can add to the mix. As being transgendered becomes more socially accepted gender lines are blurred further, you have those tg's who consider themselves neither female or male and more a '3rd gender' or somewhere in the middle. You have those who want SRS, those who do not, those who take hormones, those who do not and so on and so forth. As i said before in your previous post (I think) there is a consensus that in some cities in Brasil that 'Travesti' women are just in it for the money and have breast implants, minor FFS during their peak sexual years then de-transistion as they get older. I'm not saying this is done thing in general but again I'm sure it would come down to vibe these women give off.

In an era of gender roles becoming more and more parallel there will always be subtle behaviour and personality traits that women have over men and you're not going to find these in a 'out for the hustle' Tranny.

Agreed; though I would add that "having breast" isn't an indicator of being transsexual, mostly like both you and Amber said, it comes with the vibe the person is giving off. You can tell the people that live as women versus those that are just capitalizing on all the DL and P4P men out there. Also, transgender and transsexual are two different things, some people like B. Scott are transgender and others like myself, Amber, and Kim are transsexuals.

[chubbychaser]

Agreed; though I would add that "having breast" isn't an indicator of being transsexual, mostly like both you and Amber said, it comes with the vibe the person is giving off. You can tell the people that live as women versus those that are just capitalizing on all the DL and P4P men out there. Also, transgender and transsexual are two different things, some people like B. Scott are transgender and others like myself, Amber, and Kim are transsexuals.

Whats the difference??? And i thought transsexual was a sexual term. And also B scott just started saying he was a transgender if im not mistaken. Cause before the incident with b.e.t i though he just identified with being a gay male. See how this shit works though THIS IS WHY IM SAYINGS ITS A HUSTLE.Not for all but mosttttt

[kanguru]

Kim Carta's secret identity is a thug named Marcus? Okay. I'm still signed up for that sperm. Hustle, crossdressing, whatever you want to call it, Kim is hot as a woman. She has a huge dick, has absolute flash floods of semen, and has a nice booty. I'm all in.

Telling me a TS used to be a dude is not exactly shocking material lmao. I just care about meeting them as a woman. Kim's meat is so good I probably wouldn't care if I ended up with Marcus on this occasion though. DAT ASS.

[chubbychaser]

Kim Carta's secret identity is a thug named Marcus? Okay. I'm still signed up for that sperm. Hustle, crossdressing, whatever you want to call it, Kim is hot as a woman. She has a huge dick, has absolute flash floods of semen, and has a nice booty. I'm all in.

Telling me a TS used to be a dude is not exactly shocking material lmao. I just care about meeting them as a woman. Kim's meat is so good I probably wouldn't care if I ended up with Marcus on this occasion though. DAT ASS.

See yall like that shit, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM USE TO BEING A MAN!!!Most of these trannys just got started so it's no surprise, but the shit that gets me is seeing them as a tranny then a couple days later you see them as a man. I can't do it, i don't like crossdressers or trannys that play both BIG COCK OR NOT im not into it. Cause i don't like men...just cause u look good as a woman I STILL REFUSE!!!

[Larryp]

Kim Carta's secret identity is a thug named Marcus? Okay. I'm still signed up for that sperm. Hustle, crossdressing, whatever you want to call it, Kim is hot as a woman. She has a huge dick, has absolute flash floods of semen, and has a nice booty. I'm all in.

Telling me a TS used to be a dude is not exactly shocking material lmao. I just care about meeting them as a woman. Kim's meat is so good I probably wouldn't care if I ended up with Marcus on this occasion though. DAT ASS.

Love "DAT ASS"!!!!

[kanguru]

See yall like that shit, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM USE TO BEING A MAN!!!Most of these trannys just got started so it's no surprise, but the shit that gets me is seeing them as a tranny then a couple days later you see them as a man. I can't do it, i don't like crossdressers or trannys that play both BIG COCK OR NOT im not into it. Cause i don't like men...just cause u look good as a woman I STILL REFUSE!!!

*shrug* You do realize, like, all trannies are basically men that look good as women right lmfao. I see what you're saying though, it probably ruins the "fantasy".

[tsamberskyi]

*shrug* You do realize, like, all trannies are basically men that look good as women right lmfao. I see what you're saying though, it probably ruins the "fantasy".

ummm excuse me.. fuck no
that's a very transphobic statement. check that

[tsamberskyi]

I wouldn't go as far as genralising but I'd probably sa wrongm Carta is in it for the hustle. As Amber says though, it's all about the vibe a 'ts' gives when you are speaking to her, body language etc. Just from the vibe Amber (and Remy) give off when writing in the forum lets you know it's no hustle shit as you say chubby.

There are obviously various other arguments that you can add to the mix. As being transgendered becomes more socially accepted gender lines are blurred further, you have those tg's who consider themselves neither female or male and more a '3rd gender' or somewhere in the middle. You have those who want SRS, those who do not, those who take hormones, those who do not and so on and so forth. As i said before in your previous post (I think) there is a consensus that in some cities in Brasil that 'Travesti' women are just in it for the money and have breast implants, minor FFS during their peak sexual years then de-transistion as they get older. I'm not saying this is done thing in general but again I'm sure it would come down to vibe these women give off.

In an era of gender roles becoming more and more parallel there will always be subtle behaviour and personality traits that women have over men and you're not going to find these in a 'out for the hustle' Tranny.

so I guess I'll explain this again...
transgender:a term that describes anyone who doesn't fit "normal" gender roles... like drag queens, b scott, and etc
transsexual:a word that describes someone who feels like they were born the wrong gender and feels compelled to fix it.For an example a transsexual woman just doesnt like to dress in girls clothes but she truly believes and sees herself as a woman.

[kilakali]

ummm excuse me.. fuck no
that's a very transphobic statement. check that

I saw that one coming..

[chubbychaser]

*shrug* You do realize, like, all trannies are basically men that look good as women right lmfao. I see what you're saying though, it probably ruins the "fantasy".

See what i mean man most of us don't even have the same definition of what a tranny is!!! Because lets be real i know most of these trannys were men at one point gay men for the most part, but i thought that shit STOPPED at one point. BUT THEN AGAIN THE REASON I SAYS BEING A TRANNY IS A HUSTLE is because deep down inside I KNOW ALOT THEM DON'T STOP BEING A MAN EVEN THO THEY COME OFF AS BEING A TRANNY. And it seems to me it doesn't matter to yall CAUSE THAT ASS IS STILL FAT, but for meeee im still gonna think about that dude with the fitted hat sounding like a thug gettin in niggas asss. IT FUCKS UP THE FANTASY FOR ME. But i guess that comes with the territory seeing how yall are dealing with it.

[Handandsom]

so I guess I'll explain this again...
transgender:a term that describes anyone who doesn't fit "normal" gender roles... like drag queens, b scott, and etc
transsexual:a word that describes someone who feels like they were born the wrong gender and feels compelled to fix it.For an example a transsexual woman just doesnt like to dress in girls clothes but she truly believes and sees herself as a woman.

Explain all day, you will be explaining this all your time on this board. But the problem and the reason you may find yourself having to explain your current state is because the terms are not truly defined like what's "transphobic". I mean I can understand all day because of the current culture, but given I knew nothing about the current tranny era forget it I would be confused too.:confused:

Define:

Transsexual- truly its a "sexually" changed('trans'itioned) boy or girl to the opposite gender (anything elsle is not it).

Transgender- really??? same as the above definition

Trans (which happens to be a prefix but yall know that already)

Gender -(we know this already)

Transgender a combining the two terms, compound word which is = to......

Like wise and back to transphobic - fear of change, what?????

I'm just saying it is what it is and we are free to do as we please but lets also tell it like it is based on what it is and not some feeling, change of the wind direction, etc, etc. Cause all that said in the end you are still banging and I love that avatar:cool:

[tsamberskyi]

Explain all day, you will be explaining this all Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders*(DSM)iagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders*(DSM)our time on this board. But the problem and the reason you may find yourself having to explain your current state is because the terms are not truly defined like what's "transphobic". I mean I can understand all day because of the current culture, but given I knew nothing about the current tranny era forget it I would be confused too.:confused:

Define:
I
Transsexual- truly its a "sexually" changed('trans'itioned) boy or girl to the opposite gender (anything elsle is not it).

Transgender- really??? same as the above definition

Trans (which happens to be a prefix but yall know that already)

Gender -(we know this already)

Transgender a combining the two terms, compound word which is = to......

Like wise and back to transphobic - fear of change, what?????

I'm just saying it is what it is and we are free to do as we please but lets also tell it like it is based on what it is and not some feeling, change of the wind direction, etc, etc. Cause all that said in the end you are still banging and I love that avatar:cool:

accept them or not but I gave you the definitions as defined by the dsm (diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders) which is published by the american psychiatric association. so definitely not a bunch of random terms I put together.
also not just "feelings" in the shallow way you were trying to imply like "happy" or "sad".being a woman (transsexual) was something I knew and struggled with since childhood like most trans woman I know.
we live in the information age so theres no excuse for one to be ignorant on any subject if one cared enough to simply use google.the truth is most of yall dont care beyond catching a nut or half formed observations from the sex industry to understand transsexualism

[chubbychaser]

That's all it really is , niggas just want a quick nutt. If i seen you as a dude, rather you look feminine now or not IT'S GONNA FUCK UP EVERYTHING, especially if your still going around as a man every now and then. I just can't do it. I use to like Kim Carta but after i saw the shit in them links , i just can't beat my dick to that shit anymore, IT WONT GET HARD ANYMORE TO HER/HIS vids. Now i might run into a tranny that does the same shit one day since it's normal for trannys nowadays , but i just pray it never happens. Just imagine fucking a tranny, then see the nigga all macho and shit on the block. I'll feel like a prison bitch, just violateddd, just usedd. But the things a MAN CAN DO nowadays is AMAZING ,you can have a straight up masculine thug lookin nigga LOOK LIKE A STRAIGHT UP SEXY BITCH.Don't need no hormones or nothing. Shit is scary

[Handandsom]

accept them or not but I gave you the definitions as defined by the dsm (diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders) which is published by the american psychiatric association. so definitely not a bunch of random terms I put together.
also not just "feelings" in the shallow way you were trying to imply like "happy" or "sad".being a woman (transsexual) was something I knew and struggled with since childhood like most trans woman I know.
we live in the information age so theres no excuse for one to be ignorant on any subject if one cared enough to simply use google.the truth is most of yall dont care beyond catching a nut or half formed observations from the sex industry to understand transsexualism

Well if you got it from there than its a bigger problem than I thought, but all that aside. To add a lil depth to it "feelings" mainly influenced by your hormones. So I could have said "hormonal struggle" of some sort, i'm not trying to minimize the struggle, yours or anyone elses but I've talked to a few TS women and in saying that we all have struggles. My issue is when we all say truth well who's truth are we talking. So we sometimes need that conversation to get to that persons truth, the base/foundation to truly understand that person. Goggle is not my truth you got me on that its a "source" that just launches tons of information at you good bad ignorant all alike. I think I'd take you as a source before I google. Sorta like we can take Kim Carta as a source she goes back and forth with it as ChubbyC mentions so what do you call that. Only Kim can say but for those left to figure it out..... you gonna hear it all. Not all of us jus look for the nut its priority numero uno but its not everything...... some of need 2 nuts LMAO thats everything! jus kiddin. I appreciate your input it does help make a difference ;)

[kanguru]

ummm excuse me.. fuck no
that's a very transphobic statement. check that

Hmm, I replied to this on my iPhone, but it didn't pop up (I hate Apple), so let's try this on my desktop PC... (Because this was worth getting up out of bed for).

Amber, I mean no disrespect, but what exactly am I checking? My statement that all shemales are basically just men who look good as women? Without getting in to the mental aspects of it, I still stand by that statement. I don't see that as being transphobic at all, nor do I see myself as being transphobic. That's so far from the truth with me it's almost laughable.

No matter how the femininity is obtained, whether through hormones, surgery, or both, the fact remains at one point you were clearly identifiable as a male physically. My point is, I'm fully aware of this and I don't care. Knowing that prior you existed doesn't ruin "the magic trick" for me. I still refer to t-girls as women. Even seeing Big Dick Bitch Madison as a male in a cheap ass K-Mart suit with a fucked up hair cut didn't bother me. That's an example of a male transforming into an astoundingly beautiful woman.

I'm not saying all of y'all are cross dressers, if that's what you thought. No, just saying the facts that you started as a guy and ended up a hot girl. Nothing wrong with that and definitely no need to get upset about it.

[Juan]

Opinions vary and, mine differs tremendously. Possibly it is due to dating girls that stem from all parts of the world from a wide variety of races/ethnicities.

For example,

If one's experience dating outside their race/ethnicity is minimum to non existent, then you will have difficulty seeing beyond the persons race/ethnicity. If you have a lot of experience dating outside your race/ethnicity, you will look at the person as an individual and not as a group in which society tries to project.

If a boy takes it upon himself to undergo hormonal treatment in order to become a girl, I am going to acknowledge the boy as a girl. There is no ifs, ands or buts about it. She will be treated just like a girl in every aspect. I generally make myself very clear if I stumble upon a boy that transitioned (or transitioning) to girl that I find attractive within our first engagement. For if she is not up for that, it does not make logical sense to get to know each other better.

I can only guess those that choose to cross dress for years without making some type of permanent hormonal transition, wants the best of both worlds. Possibly they are uncertain on where all this cross dressing will lead to in the long run. It appears some guys don't care where, others do. So it is up to the guy to talk to the person on where they stand beforehand.

I would not class girls who fall in the category of a tsamberskyi, in the same group a those who follows a Kim Carta's concept. Both are individuals in their own right. Both will have their own thoughts on the matter and, should not be labeled as one.

[Ms Remy M]

Whats the difference??? And i thought transsexual was a sexual term. And also B scott just started saying he was a transgender if im not mistaken. Cause before the incident with b.e.t i though he just identified with being a gay male. See how this shit works though THIS IS WHY IM SAYINGS ITS A HUSTLE.Not for all but mosttttt

Transgender is the state of one's gender identity (self-identification as woman, man, neither or both) not matching one's assigned sex (identification by others as male, female or intersex based on physical/genetic sex). Transgender does not imply any specific form of sexual orientation; transgender people may identify as heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, polysexual, or asexual; some may consider conventional sexual orientation labels inadequate or inapplicable to them. The precise definition for transgender remains in flux, but includes:

1- "Of, relating to, or designating a person whose identity does not conform unambiguously to conventional notions of male or female gender roles, but combines or moves between these."
2- "People who were assigned a sex, usually at birth and based on their genitals, but who feel that this is a false or incomplete description of themselves."
3- "Non-identification with, or non-presentation as, the sex (and assumed gender) one was assigned at birth."

A transgender individual may have characteristics that are normally associated with a particular gender, identify elsewhere on the traditional gender continuum, or exist outside of it as other, agender, genderqueer, or third gender. Transgender people may also identify as bigender, or along several places on either the traditional transgender continuum, or the more encompassing continuums which have been developed in response to the significantly more detailed studies done in recent years.[5] Furthermore, many transgender people go through a period of identity development, marked by increases in understanding of one's self-image, self-reflection, and self-expression. More specifically, the degree to which individuals feel genuine, authentic, and comfortable within their external appearance and accept their genuine identity is referred to as transgender congruence

So in short, a person can be male/female, gay/straight and still be transgender as they don't fit into the social construct of what is their cisgender.

The term 'transsexual' is not a sexual term, Transsexualism describes the condition in which an individual identifies with a gender inconsistent or not culturally associated with their assigned sex, i.e. in which a person's assigned sex at birth conflicts with their psychological gender. A medical diagnosis can be made if a person experiences discomfort as a result of a desire to be a member of the opposite gender, or if a person experiences impaired functioning or distress as a result of that gender identification

There is no specified timespan for when a person must declare themselves transgender and/or transsexual. So, why B. Scott may have just made the announcement to the 'media' officially labeling himself transgender, everyone who has ever known B. Scott already knew that he fit into the transgender umbrella. His sexual orientation (a gay male) does not have any concern with his gender identity as a transgender male. So, there is no 'hustle' B. Scott is the same he always has been, he didn't just now start wearing female clothes at the B.E.T. awards, it has always been apart of who he is, he just informed the fools who didn't know the obvious all along by announcing it officially that he is transgender.

[Ms Remy M]

I remember a lot of debate on here about Kim, whether she's a CD or a TG. I can see the point of being CD since no breasts and she can revert to a man, but I agree more with the idea that she is who she thinks she is. Being T is a state of mind, if I've learned anything about it (from my admittedly corrupt POV).

Being that I know her personally, I refer to her as transsexual based on said conversations we've shared. Again, having breast or not does not make a person CD or TS, that is not a determining factor.


As for the Hustle angle, there is that. I think there are generally a lot more TG escorts than male escorts. Not sure if that's because being feminine lures in customers better, or if gay males find it so easy to find a promiscuous partner that there's no point in hiring an escort. It's gotta be some of both, I think.

I conceit that there are some that simple dress as female for the financial gain, it sucks for real transsexuals as it apparently causes confusion with those men not smart enough to recognize the difference. It is a product of the DL culture, so long as there are men hiding and strictly looking for a sexual encounter there will be gay men that will take advantage of that ignorance and get them for their money.

[Ms Remy M]

See what i mean man most of us don't even have the same definition of what a tranny is!!!

That is due to your mutual ignorance on the matter. It's amazing what people refuse to educate themselves on with the internet at their finger tips. You'll spend copious time on porn sites and World Star Hip Hop though (owned by a gay man btw).


Because lets be real i know most of these trannys were men at one point gay men for the most part, but i thought that shit STOPPED at one point.

Please, feel free to point out any statistical facts stating that transsexuals were once gay men? Oh that's right you don't have any. Many of you outsiders seem to be confused due to the fact that certain parts of the trans community socialize heavily with certain parts of the gay community, (i.e. going to balls, functions, pageants, using same lingo etc.)

[Ms Remy M]

Explain all day, you will be explaining this all your time on this board. But the problem and the reason you may find yourself having to explain your current state is because the terms are not truly defined like what's "transphobic". I mean I can understand all day because of the current culture, but given I knew nothing about the current tranny era forget it I would be confused too.:confused:

Define:

Transsexual- truly its a "sexually" changed('trans'itioned) boy or girl to the opposite gender (anything elsle is not it).

Transgender- really??? same as the above definition

Trans (which happens to be a prefix but yall know that already)

Gender -(we know this already)

Transgender a combining the two terms, compound word which is = to......

Like wise and back to transphobic - fear of change, what?????


Utter foolishness, do you always make your own definitions for all the words in the English language, or do you act like an intelligent person and look up the definition of a word you don't know. The do have dictionary's online for free nowadays.

[Ms Remy M]

That's all it really is , niggas just want a quick nutt. If i seen you as a dude, rather you look feminine now or not IT'S GONNA FUCK UP EVERYTHING, especially if your still going around as a man every now and then. I just can't do it. I use to like Kim Carta but after i saw the shit in them links , i just can't beat my dick to that shit anymore, IT WONT GET HARD ANYMORE TO HER/HIS vids. Now i might run into a tranny that does the same shit one day since it's normal for trannys nowadays , but i just pray it never happens. Just imagine fucking a tranny, then see the nigga all macho and shit on the block. I'll feel like a prison bitch, just violateddd, just usedd. But the things a MAN CAN DO nowadays is AMAZING ,you can have a straight up masculine thug lookin nigga LOOK LIKE A STRAIGHT UP SEXY BITCH.Don't need no hormones or nothing. Shit is scary

At the end of the day you are entitled to like what you like, that's each and every persons pejorative.

[Larryp]

Opinions vary and, mine differs tremendously. Possibly it is due to dating girls that stem from all parts of the world from a wide variety of races/ethnicities.

For example,

If one's experience dating outside their race/ethnicity is minimum to non existent, then you will have difficulty seeing beyond the persons race/ethnicity. If you have a lot of experience dating outside your race/ethnicity, you will look at the person as an individual and not as a group in which society tries to project.

If a boy takes it upon himself to undergo hormonal treatment in order to become a girl, I am going to acknowledge the boy as a girl. There is no ifs, ands or buts about it. She will be treated just like a girl in every aspect. I generally make myself very clear if I stumble upon a boy that transitioned (or transitioning) to girl that I find attractive within our first engagement. For if she is not up for that, it does not make logical sense to get to know each other better.

I can only guess those that choose to cross dress for years without making some type of permanent hormonal transition, wants the best of both worlds. Possibly they are uncertain on where all this cross dressing will lead to in the long run. It appears some guys don't care where, others do. So it is up to the guy to talk to the person on where they stand beforehand.

I would not class girls who fall in the category of a tsamberskyi, in the same group a those who follows a Kim Carta's concept. Both are individuals in their own right. Both will have their own thoughts on the matter and, should not be labeled as one.

I like what you say Juan and think it is true. I'm less concerned with trying to place TSAmber or Kim Carta in a "category." I certainly do not want to offend either. I find both women very attractive. peace.

[Handandsom]

Utter foolishness, do you always make your own definitions for all the words in the English language, or do you act like an intelligent person and look up the definition of a word you don't know. The do have dictionary's online for free nowadays.

Wow now did you check that online dictionary before you responded. Like I mentioned earlier
we can say whatever we want but it is what it is . My online reference would be onelook.com terms that have been in existence for quite sometime "prefix" and all. I try to be careful of what I write whenever I write, the truth of it is I didn't need any real intelligence on all the terms I talked about trans, sexual, gender. Thats a grade school diploma. But i'm learning that even something as foolish as what I've utter here can misconstrued as knowledge:)

[tsamberskyi]

I like what you say Juan and think it is true. I'm less concerned with trying to place TSAmber or Kim Carta in a "category." I certainly do not want to offend either. verind both women very attractive. peace.

I think categories do serve some function.
I dont want someone thinking that me and a cross dresser/drag queen are the same (not that im saying kim is). im a woman 24/7.I dont get the luxury of being a man and benefiting from male privilege when its convenient.
also I think people treat you how they perceive you.if someone perceives that you are really male they will ultimately treat you as that.
for example theres a feminine gay male at my school who dresses in female clothes to varying degrees depending on the day.however the other students call him "he" and enteract with him in a very flamboyant manner.
now me on the other hand, while im sure some students have to suspect im ts (only one has asked me so far, I said no lol) im never referred to as anything other than "she" and treated like a normal girl.

[joxynn]

I find it interesting to see the dichotomy between modes of thinking between (some) males and (some) transsexual females on full display here.

On the one hand, people like chubbychaser seem to fetishize transwomen and are shocked and appalled by anything that ruins the fantasy. For someone only seeking sexual gratification this makes sense. If one identifies himself as straight but is still attracted to transsexuals, then holding on to the idea of them living as women full time can be a way of rationalizing this. The other person's mental state never really enters the equation here because they were only superficially interested in the first place. For someone with this viewpoint, paying for sex makes the most sense. Part a sex worker's job is fulfilling the other person's fantasy. If he has the money and a willing partner, then in the end both people will have gotten what they wanted.

On the other hand you have people like Remy who actively push for rights and acceptance of the transgender lifestyle. For her, what's appalling is generalization and misconstruction of the group she belongs to. For someone with this mentality, a statement like "trannies are basically men who look good as women" probably has about the same impact as "Barack Obama is basically just a nigger in a suit" would have on a black civil rights activist. I honestly have to question whether of forum on a pornographic website is the best place to seek support and understanding for her cause, but she does at least articulate her point of view well and attempt to educate.

No wonder you two clashed though :p

[Juan]

I find it interesting to see the dichotomy between modes of thinking between (some) males and (some) transsexual females on full display here.



Why would you feel so?

There are some guys as myself that are just physically attracted to features in which is commonly found with a good portion girls, hence the reason I would date a transsexual if I found one that I considered attractive. It is the primary reason why, many who fall in such a category, do not fancy guy features and, will not date what is commonly known as a gay male.

I have encountered many masculine in looks and personality guys who would class themselves heterosexuals say things to me that would only conclude they are flirting with me when no one is around. This is due to assuming that I fancy gay men, which is not the case.

There are also some guys that fancy cross-dressers due to liking the masculine attributes still lurking within the shadows of a guy. This may be based on facial features and/or personality. There is a higher ratio of such guys who fall in this category dating what society considers a gay male than a guy who does not fancy cross-dressers.

Moving away from physical attributes, mental attraction is not uncommon from a male-to-male perspective, as two guys tend to get along better amongst one another, than two girls paired together. It is rare to hear a guy say “I don’t get a long with guys” however, not uncommon to hear a girl state “I don’t get a long with girls.”

[Juan]

I like what you say Juan and think it is true. I'm less concerned with trying to place TSAmber or Kim Carta in a "category." I certainly do not want to offend either. I find both women very attractive. peace.

I always try my best to not pass judgment on the individual when society tries to class the individual into a group.

[Ms Remy M]

Wow now did you check that online dictionary before you responded. Like I mentioned earlier
we can say whatever we want but it is what it is . My online reference would be onelook.com terms that have been in existence for quite sometime "prefix" and all. I try to be careful of what I write whenever I write, the truth of it is I didn't need any real intelligence on all the terms I talked about trans, sexual, gender. Thats a grade school diploma. But i'm learning that even something as foolish as what I've utter here can misconstrued as knowledge:)

I looked at your "onelook.com" site and typing in transsexual brings up on the sidebar more than what you provided. You also stated that transsexual and transgender are the same. Wrong, if you look at my reply toward chubbychaser you will see the appropriate meaning of each term. Which is not what you said, which is why I said your words were foolish.

[Ms Remy M]

I find it interesting to see the dichotomy between modes of thinking between (some) males and (some) transsexual females on full display here.

On the one hand, people like chubbychaser seem to fetishize transwomen and are shocked and appalled by anything that ruins the fantasy. For someone only seeking sexual gratification this makes sense. If one identifies himself as straight but is still attracted to transsexuals, then holding on to the idea of them living as women full time can be a way of rationalizing this. The other person's mental state never really enters the equation here because they were only superficially interested in the first place. For someone with this viewpoint, paying for sex makes the most sense. Part a sex worker's job is fulfilling the other person's fantasy. If he has the money and a willing partner, then in the end both people will have gotten what they wanted.

On the other hand you have people like Remy who actively push for rights and acceptance of the transgender lifestyle. For her, what's appalling is generalization and misconstruction of the group she belongs to. For someone with this mentality, a statement like "trannies are basically men who look good as women" probably has about the same impact as "Barack Obama is basically just a nigger in a suit" would have on a black civil rights activist. I honestly have to question whether of forum on a pornographic website is the best place to seek support and understanding for her cause, but she does at least articulate her point of view well and attempt to educate.

No wonder you two clashed though :p

While I see where you are coming from, and truly I understand I am biased. I also know that on other porn forums there is much room for discourse of all varieties aside from strictly porn. I actually acknowledge the main purpose of this forum, which is why I don't comment at all on the threads relegated to "who has the biggest balls" "hottest trans" etc. I still feel it is good to educate people when they are clearly wrong on a particular subject. For instance, someone claimed trans women only work in the sex industry, there was a question about whether assholes have a clitoris lol, most trans women transition for the hustle, things like that are based on that particular person limited view of the world, and I am going to set them straight on what is really out there.

[Handandsom]

I find it interesting to see the dichotomy between modes of thinking between (some) males and (some) transsexual females on full display here.

On the one hand, people like chubbychaser seem to fetishize transwomen and are shocked and appalled by anything that ruins the fantasy. For someone only seeking sexual gratification this makes sense. If one identifies himself as straight but is still attracted to transsexuals, then holding on to the idea of them living as women full time can be a way of rationalizing this. The other person's mental state never really enters the equation here because they were only superficially interested in the first place. For someone with this viewpoint, paying for sex makes the most sense. Part a sex worker's job is fulfilling the other person's fantasy. If he has the money and a willing partner, then in the end both people will have gotten what they wanted.

On the other hand you have people like Remy who actively push for rights and acceptance of the transgender lifestyle. For her, what's appalling is generalization and misconstruction of the group she belongs to. For someone with this mentality, a statement like "trannies are basically men who look good as women" probably has about the same impact as "Barack Obama is basically just a nigger in a suit" would have on a black civil rights activist. I honestly have to question whether of forum on a pornographic website is the best place to seek support and understanding for her cause, but she does at least articulate her point of view well and attempt to educate.

No wonder you two clashed though :p

This is exactly the case perfectly communicated. Ditto!

[Larryp]

I think categories do serve some function.
I dont want someone thinking that me and a cross dresser/drag queen are the same (not that im saying kim is). im a woman 24/7.I dont get the luxury of being a man and benefiting from male privilege when its convenient.
also I think people treat you how they perceive you.if someone perceives that you are really male they will ultimately treat you as that.
for example theres a feminine gay male at my school who dresses in female clothes to varying degrees depending on the day.however the other students call him "he" and enteract with him in a very flamboyant manner.
now me on the other hand, while im sure some students have to suspect im ts (only one has asked me so far, I said no lol) im never referred to as anything other than "she" and treated like a normal girl.

Hi Amber, I believe I understand what you are saying. You are a woman 24/7 and do not want to be placed in a CD/TV "category" because someone perceives that all trans-sexual women, cross dressers, and transvestites are "kind of similar" and can therefore be lumped together--is that correct?

I was simply trying to say, that I am less concerned with the labels or categories being used---I find both TS women and some CD/TVs attractive. I think Kim Carta is super hot--and without meaning any disrespect to her, I'm not that interested in knowing what "category" she is in. Does that make sense?

For me personally, I would much prefer having a serious long term relationship with a trans-sexual woman, vice with a CD / TV who is only a woman part time or when dressed up. I enjoy the mental and emotional parts of a relationship with a woman as well as the physical part. Having said that--I really haven't had any type of relationship with a CD or TV. No real reason it has not happened, but it just hasn't. Now if someone as sexy as Kim Carta invited me home with her, now that's a different story!! I would have to give that a chance.....Peace.

[Handandsom]

I looked at your "onelook.com" site and typing in transsexual brings up on the sidebar more than what you provided. You also stated that transsexual and transgender are the same. Wrong, if you look at my reply toward chubbychaser you will see the appropriate meaning of each term. Which is not what you said, which is why I said your words were foolish.

Type in transgender and see what you get lol. I could map it out for everyone but I have nothing to prove I provided the source now all can do the research . At times though its important to recognize when we are making things up as we go and when we are stating truths. Or for that much when we are stating things that are more appropriate as opposed to more factually based.
I dont think if someone explains something differently from what you would, classifies it as foolish, hence I would agree with your latter comment of you having a biased account of the topic. Its all good though, I'm just a squirrel in this world trying to get a................"u betta believe it"?:cool:

[Ms Remy M]

Type in transgender and see what you get lol. I could map it out for everyone but I have nothing to prove I provided the source now all can do the research . At times though its important to recognize when we are making things up as we go and when we are stating truths. Or for that much when we are stating things that are more appropriate as opposed to more factually based.
I dont think if someone explains something differently from what you would, classifies it as foolish, hence I would agree with your latter comment of you having a biased account of the topic. Its all good though, I'm just a squirrel in this world trying to get a................"u betta believe it"?:cool:

That site is lacking in any real information, providing only "relating to transsexuals" for the definition of transgender. When in fact, any person who does not prescribe to their cisgender societal norms of presentation can qualify as transgender and are still not transsexual (e.g. cross dressers, intersex, tv, genderqueer, etc.) Simply put, transgender is an umbrella term which does include transsexuals but is not limited to that one specific group as you would like people to believe. Further, not every person that 'transitions' from one gender to another is a transsexual either, your definition speaks nothing of the mental state of a person. I've been approached by a guy that wanted to grow breast, and just that alone didn't want to actually be a woman or anything, other than in bed. I told the guy that he shouldn't try transitioning if he truly didn't feel that he wanted to be a woman because he wasn't really transsexual, but by your definition you would consider him such just because he started transitioning so he could have people suck on his tits.

Your simple definition is like saying a star is something that shines in the sky. Yes, you could say that but that's far from complete. I tried looking up 'latina' on your certified source of all facts onelook.com and found that it defines the term as a female surname. lol Now if you spend more than 1 second on the internet looking up the term latina you could also find that it is a term used chiefly in the United States to refer to people of Latin American extraction or descent, though the term has also been incorrectly used as a synonym for Hispanic. Hispanic is a narrower term which only refers to persons of Spanish-speaking origin or ancestry, while "Latino" is more frequently used to refer more generally to anyone of Latin American origin or ancestry, including Brazilians. The term latino is used to refer to males only or a combination of males and females in a group, whereas the term Latina is used to refer to females only.

The U.S. Government has defined Hispanic or Latino persons as being "persons who trace their origin or descent to Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Central and South America, and other Spanish cultures." The United States Census uses the ethnonym Hispanic or Latino to refer to "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race." The Census Bureau also explains that "[o]rigin can be viewed as the heritage, nationality group, lineage, or country of birth of the person or the person’s ancestors before their arrival in the United States. People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be of any race." The AP Stylebook's recommended usage of Latino includes not only persons of Spanish-speaking ancestry, but also more generally includes persons "from -- or whose ancestors were from -- . . . Latin America, including Brazilians."

You see how doing actual research instead of looking for the most basic and non-informative definition varies?

[Handandsom]

Correction it's not my definition. It’s one from a site on the internet something that you have said was a source(internet) that we all can use to not be ignorant; if I'm not capturing one of your previous notions from a different comment in its entirety please forgive me). But you hit on some important things in you last comment one of which you indicate the site lacks "real" information, then you kinda of relate basic to non-informative which is not so. It's real information, yes the definitions of those terms in that site were very basic but that is the base, the most important / foundation of those terms you start there and inquire more. But by inquiring more you should never loose site of the base. Hence your example of the star is an inaccurate comparison because you didn’t define star you described it as shiny. So a little closer to what I’m talking about would be "a star is of a gaseous nature" while simple is the basis of what it is. As I mention before we can all write, type and say what we want but it is what it is. The funny thing is we agree through our research that TG does relate to TS but you go further to believe those that don't prescribe to societal gender norms also qualifies as TG. And here is the kicker and where I jump ship; you can say that if you want but I classify it as something like slang (we all know how you're using the word to mean what you said but it doesn't really mean that). Gender is based on one's reproductive role there are only two mainstreams and they are governed by the penis*and the vagina**(sure we can discuss the few anomalies, totally different topic). Whats crazy to me is that we are born one way but think we are something else and as long as we feel we are not hurting anyone it’s all good (which we have to be real careful in putting that out there) And so you speak of the mental state of the definition (that really doesn't make sense but I understand what you are trying to say) the definition is simply that, the mental state of the person we are attributing these definitions by way of that persons gender is different and its funny cause immediately i related "mental state" to some type of conflict mentally when I read that, which now makes perfect sense as Ms. Ambersky commented that her source was the DSM of Mental disorders. I suppose now when we talk of TS and TG and everything included under that umbrella we should make reference to it being of a mental disorder of some sort. And that would explain the complexity of trying to understand someone defining who they are(sexually, gender) based off of how they feel on a day to day basis. It changes daily* (lil exaggeration)! And this is why some of us will go back to the basics and go from there as I have put forth thus far. I won't conclude that all TS and TG are mental, I think that would be unfair and not conclusively true. But we have to acknowledge the identity crisis within the lifestyle which contributes to these kinds or conversations all the while being responsible for what we are putting out there. After all i think its safe to package it as a lifestyle. How about this one when I pay to play what am I "the client" (a term you seem to enjoy) but if I said "hold on", that definition speaks nothing to my mental state because truth is for that 1hr or so that was wifey and I was her husband. Am I really her husband or anywhere under that umbrella. LOL

BTW Latina is a surname it is a female of the Latin descent so while it may not be conclusively defined in the site, it was a start, the basis of the definition. In regards to your question the only thing that varies between what you are doing and I have done is your inclusion of "mind state" which doesn't change definitions here nor there so I've disregarded the notion. Because again it goes back to "we can say what we want" because we are free to choose but "it is what it is".*

Oh and just cause dude wanted tits wouldnt make him TS by my definition it may make him TG according to yours. I had breast from age 10 to about 10 and a half was I a TS for that short period No, I wasnt TG either but I did go through puberty. My estrogen levels peaked I suppose it happens in some males others it doesnt. But specifically I wasnt TS or TG because my reproductive role (gender) wasn't of question change or other creative word you would like to use.

[Ms Remy M]

You totally miss the point of my initial post in that I said it was foolish not to do research. Looking up the most basic and simple definition of a word hardly qualifies as research on a subject matter. They teach that to students in both high school and college. Would your entire thesis of transgender be limited to "of relating to transsexual" with no further research to quantify what you are saying?

Again, your lack of familiarity with the whole spectrum of transgender shows, as intersex people are neither male nor female genetically. Doctors simply "flip a coin" at birth and try label a baby whichever will be the easiest for them to correct through surgery. It is only recently "within" the last decade or so that parents have truly started to allow their children to grow naturally without surgery and then decide for themselves when they are ready what 'gender' they want to be.

My point earlier was that TG is an umbrella term which includes a variety of peoples CD, TV, TS, IS, GQ, etc. That does not mean that every TG person is TS as you would have people to believe. If you did actual 'research' you would know these things already has the internet provides a wealth of information. To settle for the most basic and non-informative source shows that what you feel qualifies as being a knowledgeable individual varies greatly from most college and non college educated people, and with the ability to smarten up on subject matters available for free through the internet you do not only yourself a disservice but also everyone else that you would converse with on the subject matter. I would no more talk about mechanics of how a car operates until I did more research on understand something more than a mixture of gas, air, and fire make the engine run. Why, because I would want to know what I'm really talking about and be able to hold an intelligent discourse on the matter.

[Larryp]

I still think Kim Carta is a sexy black trans-sexual woman who I would love to share a bed with......Peace.

[Handandsom]

I still think Kim Carta is a sexy black trans-sexual woman who I would love to share a bed with......Peace.

Exactly, ditto except I'd like to pin her to the bed "head down booty up.............":)