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DirtySouth
11-20-2008, 11:27 PM
Most of us on this end have been pondering how to make BTG and SHEMALE YUM better with each update. We can all agree that video content is a big piece of the puzzle.
We focus a lot on photos but what do you guys like and dislike on our videos? What would you like to see improved? Video length? Angles? Having models do particular things? Are there any other porn sites that you admire their video content that we could take some cues from? Does a good video matter more than a good photoset? What really gets your blood boiling?
Again, lets keep it strictly dealing with videos of the models, NOT PHOTOS! Dont be afraid critique me individually either. Im sure the other producers wont mind either.
bxboy1984
11-21-2008, 01:17 AM
the grooby vids are usually the better solo ones.
Adding the interviews as good, because as fine as the girls can be, an intriguing personality is what keeps me coming back.
thepiedpiper
11-21-2008, 01:24 AM
not sure how the far the budget stretches on shoots but two cams would be nice maybe a one free handle as always and one tripod. I guess problem there is that just one more camera adds major cost - the cam itself then you will have to pay an editor (or edit youeself) and buy the editing software too
but jus a thought
how About More T-girls Fuckin Other Hot T-girls And More Shower Scenes After They Bust They Load.........?
DirtySouth
11-21-2008, 02:13 AM
not sure how the far the budget stretches on shoots but two cams would be nice maybe a one free handle as always and one tripod. I guess problem there is that just one more camera adds major cost - the cam itself then you will have to pay an editor (or edit youeself) and buy the editing software too
but jus a thought
We've tossed this idea around and Tony put the idea into effect with a previous GOM Tiffany...check it out >>>
http://new.black-tgirls.com/members/movie.php?g=3479&name=Tiffany
Most of us actually have two cameras. So I may try this out on my next shoot.
DirtySouth
11-21-2008, 02:14 AM
how About More T-gils Fuckin Other Hot T-girls And More Shower Scenes After They Bust They Load.........?
Shower scenes are a go.
A black tgirl fucking another black tgirl? Has anyone ever seen this in person or on video anywhere? American girls (especially the black ones) arent really into that from what I can tell. Its damn near impossible to get it. Some of the other producers manage to make it happen on Yum though.
kilakali
11-21-2008, 03:23 AM
Shower scenes are a go.
A black tgirl fucking another black tgirl? Has anyone ever seen this in person or on video anywhere? American girls (especially the black ones) arent really into that from what I can tell. Its damn near impossible to get it. Some of the other producers manage to make it happen on Yum though.
Modelts.com no longer around but i think they still have the adult section, and photos on urnotalone.com. They used to have quite a few black tgirl on black tgirl action.As I stated in another post there was a hot scene with Chinadoll and Shakira. Desire and the Filipino tgirl peaches ( equally hot.... cum shooting everywhere). Jessica Host doing Shante Merlot and numerous other tgirl pairings.
website [edited] .com is posting a black tgirl on tgirl scene, and some of the indie models have a scene doin another tgirl. On Kamoras site she is doing another tgirl.
Sammy from strokers and frank from franks tgirls are excellent videographers to study from. Louis Damazo who I think is at the peak of his game would be another one to take notes from.
As far as seeing in person I have been witnessed to quite a few ( and participated in some) California is one wild place and quite a few of the tgirls out here are down with that kind of action. There are a number of models on here that like other tgirls. Hell im hooking my girl katie up with another btg out here, so i know its probably hard to do video as opposed to seeing or participating.
MrKnockOut
11-21-2008, 05:12 AM
more hardcore content, more ass clapping/shaking, and more facially pretty girls
Experienced
11-21-2008, 11:28 AM
Most of us on this end have been pondering how to make BTG and SHEMALE YUM better with each update. We can all agree that video content is a big piece of the puzzle.
We focus a lot on photos but what do you guys like and dislike on our videos? What would you like to see improved? Video length? Angles? Having models do particular things? Are there any other porn sites that you admire their video content that we could take some cues from? Does a good video matter more than a good photoset? What really gets your blood boiling?
Again, lets keep it strictly dealing with videos of the models, NOT PHOTOS! Dont be afraid critique me individually either. Im sure the other producers wont mind either.
SORRY 4 BEING SO SINGLE MINDED BUT I WANT: CUM SHOTS AND CUM SHOTS AND EVEN MORE CUM SHOTS.... :cool:
drk_cloud
11-21-2008, 12:51 PM
I love the spontaneous action that takes place between the model and the camera man. I would love to see more of the cameraman gettin sucked on. not necessarily a planned hardcore scene. I loved the shoots Tom in SF used to conduct.
DirtySouth
11-21-2008, 01:34 PM
Modelts.com no longer around but i think they still have the adult section, and photos on urnotalone.com. They used to have quite a few black tgirl on black tgirl action.As I stated in another post there was a hot scene with Chinadoll and Shakira. Desire and the Filipino tgirl peaches ( equally hot.... cum shooting everywhere). Jessica Host doing Shante Merlot and numerous other tgirl pairings.
website [edited] .com is posting a black tgirl on tgirl scene, and some of the indie models have a scene doin another tgirl. On Kamoras site she is doing another tgirl.
Sammy from strokers and frank from franks tgirls are excellent videographers to study from. Louis Damazo who I think is at the peak of his game would be another one to take notes from.
As far as seeing in person I have been witnessed to quite a few ( and participated in some) California is one wild place and quite a few of the tgirls out here are down with that kind of action. There are a number of models on here that like other tgirls. Hell im hooking my girl katie up with another btg out here, so i know its probably hard to do video as opposed to seeing or participating.
I didnt say it didnt exist, I said its rare. You only named about 2 or 3 examples. Thats a very low number in comparison to other ethnicities with tgirl/tgirl scenes.
DirtySouth
11-21-2008, 01:35 PM
more hardcore content, more ass clapping/shaking, and more facially pretty girls
Check.....facially pretty is usually a difference of opinion though.
DirtySouth
11-21-2008, 01:42 PM
I love the spontaneous action that takes place between the model and the camera man. I would love to see more of the cameraman gettin sucked on. not necessarily a planned hardcore scene. I loved the shoots Tom in SF used to conduct.
Interesting. There are a lot of spontaneous moments that are possible but most of us do not record them for the sake of being professional. Also due to some of us being married or in committed relationships, that would prevent us from getting involved. Sometimes if the cameraman gets into the scene, future models can take it the wrong way and think that we force the girls to do so and its just not the spontaneous, consensual scene that it actually is.
Nevertheless, I have a handful of POV scenes and one coming up in the near future.
Lastly....do you know how hard it is to hold a camera still and getting a good angle while youre getting your dick sucked? It's like trying to recite the Gettysburg Address while riding a unicycle.
TGirls4Me
11-21-2008, 02:31 PM
... Does a good video matter more than a good photoset? What really gets your blood boiling?
Again, lets keep it strictly dealing with videos of the models, NOT PHOTOS! Dont be afraid critique me individually either. Im sure the other producers wont mind either.
For me, videos do it better. I don't particularly like the skewed, not quite sideways, angle most of you seem to use. I'm not crazy about cocking my head to the side to see the girls.
The interviews are a good idea as long as the girls keep it straight. I've met one or two that have appeared on BTG and they were nothing like what they said in the video. Now, don't get me wrong here - lol - cause I'm not talking all about the sex. One said she loved (a particular sport) during her interview so when she came to town I was able to get tickets for a major game for us. When setting up our evening she said she really didn't like the sport and she'd rather have had the money. Oops. that night was a wash cause I ended up taking my brother-in-law. That's all I'm talking about. If we know what's true then sometime, if we get the chance to meet one of the girls, we may be able to give them something they like as an additional gift. I love the girls that say they love to shop (and what girl doesn't?) cause it's fun watching them try things on and it can be pretty hot too.
One last thing - a few hardcore sets with the girls being with a white guy would be cool. I know you have TransDom but some on BTG would be great as well.
DirtySouth
11-21-2008, 03:10 PM
For me, videos do it better. I don't particularly like the skewed, not quite sideways, angle most of you seem to use. I'm not crazy about cocking my head to the side to see the girls.
The interviews are a good idea as long as the girls keep it straight. I've met one or two that have appeared on BTG and they were nothing like what they said in the video. Now, don't get me wrong here - lol - cause I'm not talking all about the sex. One said she loved (a particular sport) during her interview so when she came to town I was able to get tickets for a major game for us. When setting up our evening she said she really didn't like the sport and she'd rather have had the money. Oops. that night was a wash cause I ended up taking my brother-in-law. That's all I'm talking about. If we know what's true then sometime, if we get the chance to meet one of the girls, we may be able to give them something they like as an additional gift. I love the girls that say they love to shop (and what girl doesn't?) cause it's fun watching them try things on and it can be pretty hot too.
One last thing - a few hardcore sets with the girls being with a white guy would be cool. I know you have TransDom but some on BTG would be great as well.
Interesting point about the white guy/blacktgirl scene. We are one of the only sites that feature black guy on black tgirl scenes. Its a double edge sword.
That sucks on the interview portion you explained. That was a good idea though, I didn't know members went that far! As for the girls, we don't know if they're lying or not about their interests or hobbies. Good point - dunno how we're going to fact check on those interviews though.
TGirls4Me
11-21-2008, 04:07 PM
Interesting point about the white guy/blacktgirl scene. We are one of the only sites that feature black guy on black tgirl scenes. Its a double edge sword.
That sucks on the interview portion you explained. That was a good idea though, I didn't know members went that far! As for the girls, we don't know if they're lying or not about their interests or hobbies. Good point - dunno how we're going to fact check on those interviews though.
I LOVE the hard core vids on BTG and it's not a bad thing them both being balck but I'm sure I'm not the only member that's white and completely smitten by Black TGirls so I kind of have a vested interest in seeing this sort of video, i.e. balck and white.
As for verifying I doubt it can be, just ask the girls to be honest up front and we'll take their word for it. As far as members paying attention and perhaps showing the girls we actually do care I'm suprised more don't. It makes for a much better time when the ladies know we think of them as humans and not just objects.
Tony Vee
11-21-2008, 04:53 PM
For me, videos do it better. I don't particularly like the skewed, not quite sideways, angle most of you seem to use. I'm not crazy about cocking my head to the side to see the girls.
The interviews are a good idea as long as the girls keep it straight. I've met one or two that have appeared on BTG and they were nothing like what they said in the video. Now, don't get me wrong here - lol - cause I'm not talking all about the sex. One said she loved (a particular sport) during her interview so when she came to town I was able to get tickets for a major game for us. When setting up our evening she said she really didn't like the sport and she'd rather have had the money. Oops. that night was a wash cause I ended up taking my brother-in-law. That's all I'm talking about. If we know what's true then sometime, if we get the chance to meet one of the girls, we may be able to give them something they like as an additional gift. I love the girls that say they love to shop (and what girl doesn't?) cause it's fun watching them try things on and it can be pretty hot too.
One last thing - a few hardcore sets with the girls being with a white guy would be cool. I know you have TransDom but some on BTG would be great as well.
I don't care for the tilted camera either but usually it's mpossible to get a close up full length shot shot unless we do that. Plus the new hi def cams make matters worse. If the cam is held in the horizontal position and it's zoomed out far enough to get a full length view the model will appear so far away and with so much irrelevant views of the setting to each side that the video would be basically unwatchable. Porn requires fairly close up views. Actually the old format resolution better suites porn.
DirtySouth
11-21-2008, 06:31 PM
As for verifying I doubt it can be, just ask the girls to be honest up front and we'll take their word for it. As far as members paying attention and perhaps showing the girls we actually do care I'm suprised more don't. It makes for a much better time when the ladies know we think of them as humans and not just objects.
Not to be pessimistic, but if you've worked with a lot of girls like most of us have, honesty is not exactly an easy subject to tackle. We dont have scripted videos. Only time I coach the girls interviews is if they go off on a rant about how men are dogs and all that LOL...who wants to hear that???? For the most part, I and Im sure the other shooters also, tell the girls to be themselves and tell the truth. I agree with you, but if they're going to lie its impossible for us to know.
eldebarge
11-21-2008, 09:58 PM
I always like the spontanaeity (sp) like somebody else said between the cameraman and the model.....i used to like to see Steve Phillips' vids because of that even though sometimes it did looked forced but its good to see that element...
I also hate the side angle view that some of the cameramen do.....
Also....more closeup action of the guy touching the girl.....i think it adds a realism to it...
thepiedpiper
11-22-2008, 12:23 AM
not too much experience in filming my own bj's but i have done a lot of camera work in my time and from the quality of the vids looks like you use the sony vx2200 or at least the new hd replacement for them. Not sure if you use the eye piece much but that would be the best bet in getting a good bj shot without it being sideways the cameras arent too big to be awkard well i guess depends on how long your holding it lol. Your never gonna satisfy every member though without some extravagant budget and a whole array of different size DV/HD cams just keep up the good work and look forward to the suggestions to be tried out. One small annoyance is the size of the Brasilian shot vids - damazo i think makes them. Im sure he uses the same camera but he doesnt decode them down enough so you almost have raw dv footage which is massive and when its then encoded to wmv even on my mid-high range spec laptop its not easy to skip through the vid. He does put to good use the fish eye lense though.
schilley
11-22-2008, 02:00 PM
I will try to keep as simple and quick as possible. Personally I do not care about hardcore stuff but I do like the solo stuff you guys have. I think it will be cool to have some more close up shot and nice angles, but also see the girls more involved in the action and stop being just there on the couch jerking off( to get a better idea of what I am saying you just need to watch the scenes with domy from house of shemales 3, leticia from shemale XTC 4 or Jennifer Caprhth from house of shemales 2.) I can watch those scenes over and over and not get bored at all. If you guys can replicate that type of energy between the girls and the camera combined with interviews I'll say you have a winner. And more cumshots please
Also check out dvsexy.com or dvsexier.com, they got some cool lighting for their shoots ( can't help it! I am a video and lighting junky). I hope this helps.
Later
DirtySouth
11-22-2008, 03:14 PM
I will try to keep as simple and quick as possible. Personally I do not care about hardcore stuff but I do like the solo stuff you guys have. I think it will be cool to have some more close up shot and nice angles, but also see the girls more involved in the action and stop being just there on the couch jerking off( to get a better idea of what I am saying you just need to watch the scenes with domy from house of shemales 3, leticia from shemale XTC 4 or Jennifer Caprhth from house of shemales 2.) I can watch those scenes over and over and not get bored at all. If you guys can replicate that type of energy between the girls and the camera combined with interviews I'll say you have a winner. And more cumshots please
Also check out dvsexy.com or dvsexier.com, they got some cool lighting for their shoots ( can't help it! I am a video and lighting junky). I hope this helps.
Later
Can you be a little more specific? Just saying more close ups and better angles is kind of vague. More close ups of what? Better angles?
Could you also describe (or send a link to it if available online) what those girls were actually doing in the examples you've mentioned? What exactly were they doing to give off more energy? What turned you on specifically about their scenes?
More cumshots - a girl can only cum once a night lol. I did have ONE girl who could come multiple times back to back, but she didn't notify me of that valuable info until the shoot was over!
bibba
11-22-2008, 04:00 PM
i have no bad comments on any of the videos, i think you guys are doing a hell of a job :) the only thing i'd probable want to see is maybe a walk sceene with their tail wagging and then a nice shot from behind walking back. keep up the great work guys
DirtySouth
11-22-2008, 07:02 PM
i have no bad comments on any of the videos, i think you guys are doing a hell of a job :) the only thing i'd probable want to see is maybe a walk sceene with their tail wagging and then a nice shot from behind walking back. keep up the great work guys
Ya know, I like that idea. Sometimes space is cramped and its hard to get a good walk scene in some of the narrow rooms I find myself in. I personally like to see a good, sexy walk on a chick. Now that someone else shares the same opinion, I will implement that into some of my future videos. We should have the "sexy walk" awards lol.
bibba
11-22-2008, 11:29 PM
NICE!!! like a shemale cat walk prrrrrrrrrrrrr MEOW!!!!
bdser88
11-24-2008, 08:53 PM
just tighten up on the interviews & getting the girls to talk more. talkin about anything is truely better than nothing. sell the fantasy.
I hate 5 mins of completely silent video while a girl flaps.
more booty is also good & like dude say about the walking. some of these girls have a mean ass walk!:D
DrDickenstein
11-25-2008, 02:41 AM
Definite YES to the walking thing. Like to see them walk with their outfit on whether it's a skirt or jeans whatever... Towards the camera and away from it.
And me being me...I like to see them walk in naked...dick on hard or soft don't matter. Not holdin it though...just swingin or pointed at the camera, hands at sides or on hips, somthin like that. :cool:
drk_cloud
11-25-2008, 11:14 PM
Yes, i love to see them just walk with a hrd dick. That is very sexy indeed. Even though i am black, I would also like to see more scenes with black tranny's and white men. It just seems a lil more taboo. As far as the interview portion, I would like it to include the girls probably recapping some real life experiences they have been through, that adds to the realism, and wil probably bring back memories for a lot of the guys watching, lol.
pipeahoe
11-25-2008, 11:48 PM
more Cum Shots Like The One Foxy Did
Holy Shit I Loved That...come On The Glass, Then He Said "rub Your Dick In It"
Wooooooow
Yeah More Cum Shots, Panty Tease, Dildo Tease Etc
judoone
12-03-2008, 04:33 AM
Yes, i love to see them just walk with a hrd dick. That is very sexy indeed. Even though i am black, I would also like to see more scenes with black tranny's and white men. It just seems a lil more taboo. As far as the interview portion, I would like it to include the girls probably recapping some real life experiences they have been through, that adds to the realism, and wil probably bring back memories for a lot of the guys watching, lol.
NOOOOOOOOOO!
i dont wanna see any more white men with black trannies thats majority of what you see these days its rare to see black on black tranny action.
and i luv to see the "bucked knackeded" walks to and from the camera...
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