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tyrone70
04-16-2014, 11:19 AM
And these T-Girls wonder why I don't come out. smh. He lost MILLIONS! just from being ACCUSED of being w/a tranny. let alone coming out and being with one. My niggaz and family ah never accept that or lemme live it down.

http://www.vladtv.com/video/188315/exclusive-chingy-i-lost-a-record-deal-to-transsexual-rumors/

tsamberskyi
04-16-2014, 02:35 PM
Lmaaooo that dude was irrelevant way before any trans girl accused him of anything lol.

chubbychaser
04-16-2014, 05:17 PM
Well it did, imo. And the tranny lied on that brotha which is the fucked up part.

SHAUN
04-16-2014, 06:36 PM
It is fukked up that someone/anyone tell such a lie...

But, in this instance, the lie only resonates against a man if the bitch is objectified as some kind of disgusting shameful leper (specifically courtesy of her TS status)

If you don't see her as a leper, then it's just another lie... to go along with the gazillion other lies around all of us.... big deal.

But if you do see her (and all TS women) as lepers, sub-human, sub-standard, sub-par etc etc.... theeeeeeeen maybe you kinda sorta deserved the shame you got....

(Even if it was a lie lol)

blue eyed devil

SHAUN
04-16-2014, 06:43 PM
One thing I do sympathise with the brotha for, however, is his sensitive eye problem; it's a damn shame to have such sensitive eyes that you have to wear sunglasses indoors.

But at least he expressed himself nice and clear; a clear voice, with raised volume, and some bass.... The power of his voice surely provides evidence of the integrity of his position, no?

Not that I'm suggesting he had the manner of someone defending himself in a courtroom... but did he take an oath before that little game of pat-a-cake lol

blue eyed devil

A REAL MAN DOESN'T CARE

tyrone70
04-16-2014, 09:52 PM
Lmaaooo that dude was irrelevant way before any trans girl accused him of anything lol.


LoL true but the tranny thing didn't help

kanguru
04-17-2014, 09:10 PM
I'm sure all these rappers bust nuts to this site and probably hire these girls on the regular. I don't see what the big deal is with admitting it. At least now. Back in the early to mid 2000s when Chingy got pegged with this maybe I can understand, but now? Sheeit.

tyrone70
04-17-2014, 09:57 PM
I'm sure all these rappers bust nuts to this site and probably hire these girls on the regular. I don't see what the big deal is with admitting it. At least now. Back in the early to mid 2000s when Chingy got pegged with this maybe I can understand, but now? Sheeit.

In hip hop you can't be with a T-girl and admit it. EVER!!!!!!

tsamberskyi
04-18-2014, 12:24 AM
In hip hop you can't be with a T-girl and admit it. EVER!!!!!!

What do you mean can't? ? Lmaaooo silly sheep, you can do whatever you want to do.break free of the matrix lol

tyrone70
04-18-2014, 03:47 AM
What do you mean can't? ? Lmaaooo silly sheep, you can do whatever you want to do.break free of the matrix lol

did you see the treatment they gave Cut Master Cee and Chingy?? Worldstar would have a field day. Lord Jamar would be on Vlad.com tearing you apart

tsamberskyi
04-18-2014, 04:20 PM
did you see the treatment they gave Cut Master Cee and Chingy?? Worldstar would have a field day. Lord Jamar would be on Vlad.com tearing you apart

Some people will always be a slave to others and the free thinkers, those who make decisions based on their own thought processes shape the world.

Handandsom
04-20-2014, 02:25 AM
In hip hop you can't be with a T-girl and admit it. EVER!!!!!!

I agree, personally. Oh, but the day will come! The question is which one will it be?? Bonus question(extra points) what side of the street will you be on?? LMAO

"Some will get it, many won't"

johnmagnum
04-23-2014, 05:37 AM
I am going to say it here first...give it some time and Sydney Star will be back on the stroll like the old days.

SHAUN
04-23-2014, 03:29 PM
It was Sydney Star? ...

And he wanted to keep her hidden away like some dirty little secret... like Susan hiding Leroy from her Mommy and Daddy and all her skkkoolfriends back in the day??

But look how fine she looks tho!?... Sheeet I'd take her to a Farrakhan rally lol (I'd take some heat with me, mind; you never know with some venues/crowds)

All joking aside, it's nasty to get malicious with other people, using bad intentions against them and their careers etc (if that's what she did).....

But, in that case, don't keep dirty little secrets if you don't want them backfiring; Leroy was/is better than that... and so are our TS sisters.

If you think such people are sub-standard, then do not fuck them... or at least don't sing the blues when the skeletons come out :)

blue eyed devil

tsamberskyi
04-23-2014, 05:47 PM
It was Sydney Star? ...

And he wanted to keep her hidden away like some dirty littlesupposed... like Susan hiding Leroy from her Mommy and Daddy and all her skkkoolfriends back in the day??

But look how fine she looks tho!?... Sheeet I'd take her to a Farrakhan rally lol (I'd take some heat with me, mind; you never know with some venues/crowds)

All joking aside, it's nasty to get malicious with other people, using bad intentions against them and their careers etc (if that's what she did).....

But, in that case, don't keep dirty little secrets if you don't want them backfiring; Leroy was/is better than that... and so are our TS sisters.

If you think such people are sub-standard, then do not fuck them... or at least don't sing the blues when the skeletons come out :)

blue eyed devil

A thousand times this!!!!
threads like this make me a mixture of angry and sad. How is a girl to feel when the very people who are supposed to "admire" her are saying that she's something to be ashamed of, that there is something wrong with her.
glad some get it though
Much luv hun xoxo

SHAUN
04-23-2014, 09:44 PM
Mwah!

I will pretend that you are modelling for me next time you seduce the camera in some stockings and garter belt and heels heehee mmmmmmmmm :)

xxxx

raheme
05-03-2014, 04:28 AM
A thousand times this!!!!
threads like this make me a mixture of angry and sad. How is a girl to feel when the very people who are supposed to "admire" her are saying that she's something to be ashamed of, that there is something wrong with her.
glad some get it though
Much luv hun xoxo

You earn your living via being some man's kept secret.

Whilst I don't subscribe to the dl mentality, I find it extremely hypocritical of you voice that opinion.

Handandsom
05-06-2014, 02:15 AM
See I subscribe to the "each's own" mentality. And yet, i agree with you on the hypocracy of some of these opinions. It is, what it is.

werwt22
05-06-2014, 05:51 AM
You earn your living via being some man's kept secret.

Whilst I don't subscribe to the dl mentality, I find it extremely hypocritical of you voice that opinion.

good point

Indy24
05-06-2014, 06:40 AM
did you see the treatment they gave Cut Master Cee and Chingy?? Worldstar would have a field day. Lord Jamar would be on Vlad.com tearing you apart
First, I think there's a huge distinction between the 2 trannies Chingy was caught up with an that thing Mr Cee had the video with. If you wont at lease acknowledge for real trans-women from homo's in wigs in forums like this then why should society???

Secondly, FUCK Lord Jamar, just because he calls himself lord don't make him God or the bottom line for shit. Grand Pupa is what made Brand Nubian hot back then anyway and once he left it was a wrap.

Plus between drug glorification, murder, woman bashing and boasting about material shit, hiphop been border-lining coonery. So how would tranny's tarnish a rusty blade?

stanchat
05-06-2014, 07:27 AM
Guys musicians and transsexuals have been going on a long time in the music industry. One of the most famous cases is Lou Reed who had the hit song song "Take a Walk on the Wild Side" in the 70's. He actually dedicated his albums to his transsexual lover "Rachel" It was a big deal in the 70's cause I remember my father and his friends discussing this this topic when I was young. Lou Reed died a couple of years ago but i'm not sure if his associating with transsexulas hurt his career (He toured with Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton and other big names)

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100243680/lou-reeds-inspiration-was-a-transsexual-dont-let-pop-historians-write-her-out-of-the-story/

werwt22
05-06-2014, 02:21 PM
First, I think there's a huge distinction between the 2 trannies Chingy was caught up with an that thing Mr Cee had the video with. If you wont at lease acknowledge for real trans-women from homo's in wigs in forums like this then why should society???

Secondly, FUCK Lord Jamar, just because he calls himself lord don't make him God or the bottom line for shit. Grand Pupa is what made Brand Nubian hot back then anyway and once he left it was a wrap.

Plus between drug glorification, murder, woman bashing and boasting about material shit, hiphop been border-lining coonery. So how would tranny's tarnish a rusty blade?

You may as well remove your final paragraph,because every genre of music is the same way other than Gospel and Jazz. From country and R&B all the way to alternative and rock they have songs that glorify death, objectify women, promote drug use etc etc....

To your initial point, distinguishing the difference between the two wont change their opinion. You think someone racist gives a damn whether I'm upper, middle, or lower class? No...they dont like me because I'm black...the public can distinguish the difference for themselves when they see the pics of who they were, but it wont change how they feel. Sadly most of society are sheep and its frowned upon overall because thats whats been drilled into their heads for so long. People will eventually be more tolerable as rights continue to progress.

SHAUN
05-06-2014, 05:34 PM
First, I think there's a huge distinction between the 2 trannies Chingy was caught up with an that thing Mr Cee had the video with. If you wont at lease acknowledge for real trans-women from homo's in wigs in forums like this then why should society???

Secondly, FUCK Lord Jamar, just because he calls himself lord don't make him God or the bottom line for shit. Grand Pupa is what made Brand Nubian hot back then anyway and once he left it was a wrap.

Plus between drug glorification, murder, woman bashing and boasting about material shit, hiphop been border-lining coonery. So how would tranny's tarnish a rusty blade?

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice, beautiful!

You know, I must be a 5 per-center... because I figured, a long time ago now, that 95% of hiphop is major MAJOR sellout... hypersensitive, narcissistic, materialistic sellout...

May their ancestors from The (real) Struggle curse their shit-brained, man-child zombie souls.

blue eyed devil

SHAUN
05-06-2014, 05:50 PM
You may as well remove your final paragraph,because every genre of music is the same way other than Gospel and Jazz. From country and R&B all the way to alternative and rock they have songs that glorify death, objectify women, promote drug use etc etc....
To your initial point, distinguishing the difference between the two wont change their opinion. You think someone racist gives a damn whether I'm upper, middle, or lower class? No...they dont like me because I'm black...the public can distinguish the difference for themselves when they see the pics of who they were, but it wont change how they feel. Sadly most of society are sheep and its frowned upon overall because thats whats been drilled into their heads for so long. People will eventually be more tolerable as rights continue to progress.

Yes you're so right lol; there is clearrrrrrrly no issue/problem with hiphop and nihilistic dead-end materialism, willful stupidity and misogony.... Hey, in that respect, it's just like rock! Or country n western! Isn't it, lol!!

Move along people - nothing to see here!

And btw, I think you're wrong about a racist not giving a damn if they "see" you as black and upper/middle-class as opposed to black and lower-class.... In the latter case, sure, they will dislike you, period... Whereas in the former case there is every chance that, despite some annoying patronising comments they will make from time to time, they will actually want to accept you (even if it's on creepy terms you don't respect)

Hmmmm... Or then again, maybe I should consult Lord Jamar's opinion on this, to get the received wisdom?... I mean, I'd hate to feel like I was stepping out-of-line? lol

blue eyed devil

werwt22
05-06-2014, 07:50 PM
Yes you're so right lol; there is clearrrrrrrly no issue/problem with hiphop and nihilistic dead-end materialism, willful stupidity and misogony.... Hey, in that respect, it's just like rock! Or country n western! Isn't it, lol!!

Move along people - nothing to see here!

And btw, I think you're wrong about a racist not giving a damn if they "see" you as black and upper/middle-class as opposed to black and lower-class.... In the latter case, sure, they will dislike you, period... Whereas in the former case there is every chance that, despite some annoying patronising comments they will make from time to time, they will actually want to accept you (even if it's on creepy terms you don't respect)

Hmmmm... Or then again, maybe I should consult Lord Jamar's opinion on this, to get the received wisdom?... I mean, I'd hate to feel like I was stepping out-of-line? lol

blue eyed devil

bruh im not wrong...just because someone is willing to give me a little more leeway, in regards to my financial circumstance, doesnt change the fact that they still judge me based on my skintone. just saying its a similar circumstance in regards of this community...Did you really think they cared whether you said TS or CD?

bigruss
05-06-2014, 08:28 PM
i love hip hop, it is my favorite genre of music, but the majority of rap music you see on tv, hear on the radio sucks and all of the popular artists suck. they spew garbage, denigrate black women, and glorify illegal lifestyles that the youth emulate. other genres of music have bad things too, but no other genres have the majority of there artists and the most popular artists spewing garbage. that's why if your a responsible adult you don't play that shit around kids.

SHAUN
05-06-2014, 08:55 PM
bruh im not wrong...just because someone is willing to give me a little more leeway, in regards to my financial circumstance, doesnt change the fact that they still judge me based on my skintone. just saying its a similar circumstance in regards of this community...Did you really think they cared whether you said TS or CD?

Don't get me wrong: a racist fella WILL still judge you based on skin-tone, like you state... But if that racist fella also sees you as upper/middle class then he will aspire to gain your friendship (as a token of his largesse), whereas if he sees you as lower class (or poor white trash) then you will get nuthin out of him... Of course, his lousy friendship is not worth having, we can agree on that!... I'm just pointing out that he will make significant changes in his behaviour to you, and others, based on how he "sees" class.

PS... Are people still allowed to use the phrase "poor white trash" in Americcca?... just wondering ;)

blue eyed devil

SHAUN
05-06-2014, 09:00 PM
i love hip hop, it is my favorite genre of music, but the majority of rap music you see on tv, hear on the radio sucks and all of the popular artists suck. they spew garbage, denigrate black women, and glorify illegal lifestyles that the youth emulate. other genres of music have bad things too, but no other genres have the majority of there artists and the most popular artists spewing garbage. that's why if your a responsible adult you don't play that shit around kids.

I enjoy some hiphop too.... but as a genre, I know of no other that so konsistently sells out the very souls it purports to represent... (Not 100%, obviously... I'm simply talking by and large and on-the-whole)

In this respect, it is truly disgusting, and the day is not very far away when some kinda racial fatwa jihad-bizness will be decreed on the sell-out zombie kunts who market it.

I agree with you: olders should be very very careful what they play around youngers...

blue eyed devil

TurboMan
05-07-2014, 01:15 AM
Heeyy this thread..some good points are being made.

werwt22
05-07-2014, 01:54 AM
And btw, I think you're wrong about a racist not giving a damn if they "see" you as black and upper/middle-class as opposed to black and lower-class.... In the latter case, sure, they will dislike you, period... Whereas in the former case there is every chance that, despite some annoying patronising comments they will make from time to time, they will actually want to accept you (even if it's on creepy terms you don't respect)

...
blue eyed devil

Dont confuse personal gain with racism bruh..

werwt22
05-07-2014, 02:05 AM
i love hip hop, it is my favorite genre of music, but the majority of rap music you see on tv, hear on the radio sucks and all of the popular artists suck. they spew garbage, denigrate black women, and glorify illegal lifestyles that the youth emulate. other genres of music have bad things too, but no other genres have the majority of there artists and the most popular artists spewing garbage. that's why if your a responsible adult you don't play that shit around kids.

INCORRECT! The artists arent necessarily garbage, its just the songs they choose to market. Ive come across too many amazing albums that were well beyond what was released for the public to buy dueto what "THE PUBLIC" demands. A mass of country is about guns, depression, drinkin and killing your lover...dont get me started on metal/alternative. I can give you an innumerable amount songs and albums that stay true to "real hip-hop", but understand the difference between that and trap music/battle rap/diss records etc etc....

On a side note I've seen so many adults try to degrade hiphop and its influence and turn around and let their kids watch family guy in the same breath...

bigruss
05-07-2014, 02:53 AM
i listen to great hip hop artists too, but they have such a small footprint in the industry that they don't matter. what the masses like and listen too is what is relevant! my standards of what's good is much higher than yours. because the songs they choose to market and their cds are garbage. and to compare family guy to some of these lyrics out there on some of these songs is like comparing cinemax to hardcore porn. because todays mainstream rap music has no positive affect. the only people it helps are the artist and record companies that profit from it.

werwt22
05-07-2014, 10:03 PM
i listen to great hip hop artists too, but they have such a small footprint in the industry that they don't matter. what the masses like and listen too is what is relevant! my standards of what's good is much higher than yours. because the songs they choose to market and their cds are garbage. and to compare family guy to some of these lyrics out there on some of these songs is like comparing cinemax to hardcore porn. because todays mainstream rap music has no positive affect. the only people it helps are the artist and record companies that profit from it.

your standards are higher than mine? How do you know? I never referenced any artist even though my favorite rapper is Talib Kweli with Common coming 2nd (the old common). Dont confuse me partying to a song wit a few women, or getting hype to, with music that I'd buy or listen to at home or on the regular. (Not unless you were saying "yours" in general) Music isnt meant to help anyone per say, but its moreso a form of artistic expression...thats why I'm not mad at what anyone chooses to put out...its their own product. Dont know if if you have kids, but imagine them running around telling family guy jokes vs "hiphop" lyrics...not so different.

bigruss
05-08-2014, 02:14 AM
don't have any kids, never have never will. a middle class college graduate who grew up in the pj's during the crack era, and i still have ties to the hood. today's mainstream hip hop is not the reason the black community is in the shape its in but it's part of the problem. so yes i call it garbage and speak out against it. talib kweli, mos def, black thought, lupe fiasco, common, dela soul, etc.are all great rappers. and their singles are just as hot as their cds, that's why i'm confused about your earlier post. when i watch tv or listen to radio or ask my nieces and nephews what they listen to it ain't none of the good rappers. i am no saint and i used to listen to tupac, biggie and all the rest but when i got to a certain stage in my life i could no longer defend or listen to music that degrades my people. i love rap music but i just call it like i see it.

werwt22
05-08-2014, 10:26 AM
don't have any kids, never have never will. a middle class college graduate who grew up in the pj's during the crack era, and i still have ties to the hood. today's mainstream hip hop is not the reason the black community is in the shape its in but it's part of the problem. so yes i call it garbage and speak out against it. talib kweli, mos def, black thought, lupe fiasco, common, dela soul, etc.are all great rappers. and their singles are just as hot as their cds, that's why i'm confused about your earlier post. when i watch tv or listen to radio or ask my nieces and nephews what they listen to it ain't none of the good rappers. i am no saint and i used to listen to tupac, biggie and all the rest but when i got to a certain stage in my life i could no longer defend or listen to music that degrades my people. i love rap music but i just call it like i see it.

i feel you bruh...and there is a lot of trash out right now, but I was just saying good hiphop still exist...may have a smaller following/less media coverage, but its still there. I fremember Pac saying imma give you what you wanna hear, and when you listening, imma give you what you need to hear. Genius idea and it worked.

tsamberskyi
05-15-2014, 09:10 PM
You earn your living via being some man's kept secret.

Whilst I don't subscribe to the dl mentality, I find it extremely hypocritical of you voice that opinion.

What I tolerate to make money from strangers that I don't care about is completely different than what I want in my personal life.
I think that your intellectually lazy for not realizing that distinction on your own.

tsamberskyi
05-15-2014, 09:12 PM
You earn your living via being some man's kept secret.

Whilst I don't subscribe to the dl mentality, I find it extremely hypocritical of you voice that opinion.

Also its been awhile since you've known me.don't assume you know anything about how I make my living currently

tsamberskyi
05-15-2014, 09:18 PM
FOTE=werwt22;50040]bruh im not wrong...just because someone is willing to give me a little more leewwhitn regards to my financial circumstance, doesnt change the fact that they still judge me based on my skintone. just saying its a similar circumstance in regards of this community...Did you really think they cared whether you said TS or CD?[/QUOTE]

They will care the same way house niggas got special treatment and a certain degree of trust from the white man.true your still a nigga at the end of the day but your a negro that can get away with allot more lol.
For example a pretty ts receives way less public ridicule than a non passable trans woman or cd. At my school there a person who dresses like a woman but doesnt look anything like one.Even though my gender history is kown at my school the way they treat me and accept my womanhood is way different than that persons...waayyy different.

raheme
05-19-2014, 01:04 PM
What I tolerate to make money from strangers that I don't care about is completely different than what I want in my personal life.
I think that your intellectually lazy for not realizing that distinction on your own.

So its ok for you to make sweeping generalizations but it's unacceptable of me to state factual information?

I do not know what you do now. That is correct. I know what you did back in the day.

I am an educated, self made, down to earth black man. We have hung out together before. In the public. And had some really cool fun moments. No hiding no being dl no pretending.

I get tired of you attacking black men as if all black men are dl or ashamed to be with a transsexual woman.

tsamberskyi
05-19-2014, 01:56 PM
So its ok for you to make sI act eeping generalizations but it's unacceptable of me to state factual information?

I do not know what you do now. That is correct. I know what you did back in the day.

I am an educated, self made, down to earth black man. We have hung out together before. In the public. And had some really cool fun moments. No hiding no being dl no pretending.

I get tired of you attacking black men as if all black men are dl or ashamed to be with a transsexual woman.
What is factual information? That I escort? That probably the majority of my clients probably are down low? So because of those experiences I don't get to have an opinion? That I can't disagree with how they live their lives? That I should accept DL men into my personal and private life because I do so for business? Here's the reality...no matter what ones career, job,or hustle your going to have to work with people who you don't like or who's lifestyle you may not agree.People do this because they understand that you can do business with people you would never socialize with under any other circumstance.

What I do is call out and challenge men on here when they advocate for their DL lifestyle.
Of course I know that there are non DL brothas out there because that's the only kind of men I date.I personally don't entertain DL men in my social life.
Funny that you can accuse me of sweeping generalizations when the comment you responded to was me giving kiddos to one of the members on here for not letting fear run his life and interactions with ts woman

vidman
05-20-2014, 11:11 AM
You earn your living via being some man's kept secret.

Whilst I don't subscribe to the dl mentality, I find it extremely hypocritical of you voice that opinion.

very good point

vidman
05-20-2014, 11:13 AM
so its ok for you to make sweeping generalizations but it's unacceptable of me to state factual information?

I do not know what you do now. That is correct. I know what you did back in the day.

I am an educated, self made, down to earth black man. We have hung out together before. In the public. And had some really cool fun moments. No hiding no being dl no pretending.

I get tired of you attacking black men as if all black men are dl or ashamed to be with a transsexual woman.

preach!!!!!!!!!

tsamberskyi
05-20-2014, 04:37 PM
Still bitter I see lol

Ms Remy M
05-20-2014, 05:28 PM
INCORRECT! The artists arent necessarily garbage, its just the songs they choose to market. Ive come across too many amazing albums that were well beyond what was released for the public to buy dueto what "THE PUBLIC" demands. A mass of country is about guns, depression, drinkin and killing your lover...dont get me started on metal/alternative. I can give you an innumerable amount songs and albums that stay true to "real hip-hop", but understand the difference between that and trap music/battle rap/diss records etc etc....

On a side note I've seen so many adults try to degrade hiphop and its influence and turn around and let their kids watch family guy in the same breath...

While I wouldn't agree with allowing a child to watch Family Guy as the material is very mature, there is a vast difference between Hip Hop music which wants the viewer to see the video/music as reality, despite the cars, planes, jewelry, cars, women being rented for the use of the video. Family Guy is a fictitious cartoon that strays far from the realm of reality, there is never any confusion that Family Guy is not real.

Ms Remy M
05-20-2014, 06:20 PM
And these T-Girls wonder why I don't come out. smh. He lost MILLIONS! just from being ACCUSED of being w/a tranny. let alone coming out and being with one. My niggaz and family ah never accept that or lemme live it down.

http://www.vladtv.com/video/188315/exclusive-chingy-i-lost-a-record-deal-to-transsexual-rumors/

That's not how he "lost millions". He lost his money due to piss poor business decisions and over all not having the business ethics to maintain what he had. Less floss and more strong investments in business that will flourish and he might still have that money. Musically, as you notice, there is no mention of artist or exec that said they will no longer work with him because of a rumor that he hooks up with trans women. Because they would call his lies out, it's easier for him to blame his failure as a rapper on a trans woman than on the fact that he just isn't that good.

For instance, his first two albums (released in 2003 and 2004) were certified platinum, and his career peaked then. By his third album released in 2006 the critics were giving him negative reviews and he just barely went gold. By his fourth album (released in 2007) he was only able to sell 30,000 copies (really Chingy, there are rappers selling more than that out the trunk of their cars) and didn't even bother to release it in the UK which might have helped his sales some. You would be hard pressed to find a record label willing to invest in a failing artist in this current climate of the music industry with internet pirating run rampant and the industry trying to figure out how to be relevant (in sales). Now, the Sidney Starr rumors didn't start until 2009 (well after his decline) so while there certainly was some controversy surrounding him, there is a saying in the entertainment business, all publicity is good publicity. He just didn't capitalize on it in the best way he could have. At the end of the day, like so many people, they look for any other excuse other than themselves to explain away their own failings.

vidman
05-20-2014, 10:53 PM
About what. I like when truth is told, that's all.

raheme
05-21-2014, 09:47 AM
Still bitter I see lol

Womp womp womp :cool:

vidman
05-21-2014, 05:21 PM
Womp womp womp :cool:

Indeed Raheme. Indeed. lol

By the way, Heme, how ya been. I haven't spoken to you in a while either. Hope all is well.

tsamberskyi
05-21-2014, 06:40 PM
Its funny cause like the only two niggas I kinda know off of here keep patting each other on the back.
Go ahead gentleman I understand lmaooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

tsamberskyi
05-21-2014, 06:43 PM
Indeed Raheme. Indeed. lol

By the way, Heme, how ya been. I haven't spoken to you in a while either. Hope all is well.

Also keep it cute nigga cause I got dirt on you for dayzzz.you keep cheerleading from the side line and ill get your ass muddy

tyrone70
05-21-2014, 10:11 PM
Also keep it cute nigga cause I got dirt on you for dayzzz.you keep cheerleading from the side line and ill get your ass muddy

LoL Vidman she got the goods on you boi lol
#niggabetterbequiet
#niggabeensneakinround

TurboMan
05-21-2014, 10:28 PM
Also keep it cute nigga cause I got dirt on you for dayzzz.you keep cheerleading from the side line and ill get your ass muddy

Whooa this shiggity is getting interesting.

TurboMan
05-21-2014, 10:30 PM
LoL Vidman she got the goods on you boi lol
#niggabetterbequiet
#niggabeensneakinround

You are krazy...KMSL.

blk_jnd
05-22-2014, 12:04 AM
Also keep it cute nigga cause I got dirt on you for dayzzz.you keep cheerleading from the side line and ill get your ass muddy

If it's anything to do with his private sexual proclivities, and you're here calling it "dirt" like it's something to bring him down with ... you should be ashamed of yourself as nuthin' but a hypocrite.

Remy should have a word with you.

tsamberskyi
05-22-2014, 12:59 AM
If it's anything to do with his private sexual proclivities, and you're here calling it "dirt" like it's something to bring him down wi ... you should be ashamed of yourself as nuthin' but a hypocrite.

Remy should have a word with you.

Now this is some real funny shit.
"Remy should have a word with you" lmmaaoooo negro I ain't got no keeper!
I keep trying to keep it cute with some people on this board but they want to come for me and throw their subtle shade like bitches.least Raheme had the balls to call me out.that other nigga over there cheer leading and dick riding.
I don't fuck with them, they know why i dont fuck with them.so don't comment on shit about or around me and I'll do the same.
Both those niggas like to talk shit, try to "put me in my place" and than want to call me to apologize and clear the air lol
Boy bye!!

werwt22
05-22-2014, 04:19 PM
While I wouldn't agree with allowing a child to watch Family Guy as the material is very mature, there is a vast difference between Hip Hop music which wants the viewer to see the video/music as reality, despite the cars, planes, jewelry, cars, women being rented for the use of the video. Family Guy is a fictitious cartoon that strays far from the realm of reality, there is never any confusion that Family Guy is not real.

Well the previous quote was based around what we allow our children to listen to and watch. It wasnt necessarily a direct comparison. I was referring to how people speak negatively of hiphops content, but turn around and ignore the content of everything else mainstream that their children watch and listen to. And we all know how impressionable people can be, reality or fiction.

vidman
05-26-2014, 06:25 PM
Its funny cause like the only two niggas I kinda know off of here keep patting each other on the back.
Go ahead gentleman I understand lmaooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Uhm, sorry but whatever you are implying, I have no clue. I don't even know Raheme's real name. I don't know any personal info about him nor do I know anyone he may be affiliated with. What I do know is when he opens his mouth it makes since and it's rational. So imply whatever you like. No need to ride anyone's dick.

I see you still haven't grown up one bit. Still the same bitter woman I always remember you being. I will pray for you.

vidman
05-26-2014, 06:31 PM
If it's anything to do with his private sexual proclivities, and you're here calling it "dirt" like it's something to bring him down with ... you should be ashamed of yourself as nuthin' but a hypocrite.

Remy should have a word with you.

She doesn't know anything about me man. I haven't even participated on this site on a regular basis in at least a year. I haven't spoken with her or Remy in about a year. I'm not even enthralled in the TS world like I used to be. So she has nothing to "muddy" me up about. No worries here. As you can see, she is definitely the one with issues. All that she ever spits from her mouth is hate and disdain for men. Her history precedes itself. Hypocrisy? I agree. Bitter? Most definitely.

vidman
05-26-2014, 06:34 PM
LoL Vidman she got the goods on you boi lol
#niggabetterbequiet
#niggabeensneakinround

LOL. Ty, she is delusional my man. I can assure you that whatever comes from her mouth is about as hateful and false as she is. I'm clean.
#aintworriedboutnuttin
lol

vidman
05-26-2014, 06:37 PM
Its funny cause like the only two niggas I kinda know off of here keep patting each other on the back.
Go ahead gentleman I understand lmaooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Uh, you don't "kinda" know me. You don't know me from a can of paint. You wouldn't know me if I walked up and slapped you on your ass. The only way you know me is through Remy. People who "know" me, have my contact info. If you know me so well, reach out to me. lol.

vidman
05-26-2014, 06:40 PM
Also keep it cute nigga cause I got dirt on you for dayzzz.you keep cheerleading from the side line and ill get your ass muddy

I'm never on the sideline, I'm always in the game. I can comment on whatever or whomever I choose. If you don't like it, stay the fuck off the boards. Amazing how you voice your opinions and comments and dare people to challenge, but when someone else has something else speaks against your beliefs and philosophies, you want to get offended. You don't scare me Amber. I'm not worried about whatever you think you know about me. I haven't had communications with you in over a year so there is no way you know what's going on in my life or who I'm spending my time with. So go ahead, throw some lies out there about the Vidman. No one on here knows anything about me except Remy. Now go muddy that shit. You are still silly and immature after all this time. Don't take your failed encounters and experiences with men out on me. With your hateful attitude towards men, I see why true love might be difficult for you. See, it's bitter chics like you that made August Alsina say, "I'm not taking a picture with a transsexual." You're threatening to do to me the same thing that some chic would do to him and all August would need is the picture floating around. People would believe it even though it's only a picture. I don't even know you other than you're a model on this site named Amber and that you roll with Remy. You must really think about me alot. Have I been on your mind so much that you just couldn't wait until I opened my mouth? Wow, I didn't know you cared for me so much.

lol

tsamberskyi
05-27-2014, 04:58 AM
Uh, you don't "kinda" know me. You don't know me from a can of paint. You wouldn't know me if I walked up and slapped you on your ass. The only way you know me is through Remy. People who "know" me, have my contact info. If you know me so well, reach out to me. lol.

Guess niggas forgot when they were all on my phone begging me to come down to ATL.
I don't have your contact because I had to block your ass from calling me lol (which means I had your shit at one time genius).
But since u asked for it I'm about to go in...I'll be back to address this shit tommrow too tired from my trip

tsamberskyi
05-27-2014, 05:03 AM
She doesn't know anything about me man. I haven't even participated on this site on a regular basis in at least a year. I haven't spoken with her or Remy in about a year. I'm not even enthralled in the TS world like I used to be. So she has nothing to "muddy" me up about. No worries here. As you can see, she is definitely the one with issues. All that she ever spits from her mouth is hate and disdain for men. Her history precedes itself. Hypocrisy? I agree. Bitter? Most definitely.

Bitter? Never
Hip to the game? Always
I dont hate all men, just the fuck ones.there's more than one man on this board who has my respect. Your just not one of them and b4 you say it I'm sure that means nothing to you
Not in the "ts world" (whatever the fuck that is lol)? I know a few girls that say differently...

tsamberskyi
05-27-2014, 05:08 AM
LOL. Ty, she is delusional my man. I can assure you that whatever comes from her mouth is about as hateful and false as she is. I'm clean.
#aintworriedboutnuttin
lol

False? Ain't a damn thing fake on me lmaaaooooooo
I have more than one person on this board who can voucher for my validity.can u say the same?

vidman
05-27-2014, 01:22 PM
Guess niggas forgot when they were all on my phone begging me to come down to ATL.
I don't have your contact because I had to block your ass from calling me lol (which means I had your shit at one time genius).
But since u asked for it I'm about to go in...I'll be back to address this shit tommrow too tired from my trip

Hoe please. I tried to holler at you 3 years ago when you first got started on this site bitchboy. After I realized how shallow, confrontational and bitter you were, I quickly halted my courting. As far as you blocking me, you blocked me just last year when that silly ass girl lied and told you and Remy that I tried to extort her. I put her on blast and proved that she was lying and that you jumped to conclusions before hearing my side of the story. Yeah, she pulled a tranny. You know, trying to get niggas muddy. Yeah, you know. The same reason why Chingy's career is shot and why August Alsina won't take pictures with chicks like you.

Yeah, you did have my shit at one time. But like I said in my original posts yesterday....that was so long ago so you don't know shit about me in the present. So you can throw out allegations of the ancient past, who gives a fuck. No one on here knows me or what I look like, or anything about me for that matter. Do you think I give two fucks about what you say on black tgirls forum? LMAO!! Silly dummy. Children never grow up. In order to move forward in life, Amber, you must leave behind your childish ways. Muddy me up......LMAO!!! Typical tranny shit.

vidman
05-27-2014, 01:26 PM
False? Ain't a damn thing fake on me lmaaaooooooo
I have more than one person on this board who can voucher for my validity.can u say the same?

Who gives a fuck!! See? That's your problem. You're all about putting on a show. I don't give a fuck what's fake or real on you or who can validate. Great, you've screwed quite a few guys on this site, what a woman!

No I can't say the same because no one on this site knows me. So I wouldn't expect them to vouch for anything. I damn sure ain't looking for AMEN from niggas on a site.

All this time I thought you were above the clouds. You're ignorant Amber. I'm really disappointed.

vidman
05-27-2014, 02:19 PM
Bitter? Never
Hip to the game? Always
I dont hate all men, just the fuck ones.there's more than one man on this board who has my respect. Your just not one of them and b4 you say it I'm sure that means nothing to you
Not in the "ts world" (whatever the fuck that is lol)? I know a few girls that say differently...

Amber, fuck your respect. Your respect isn't going to get me a raise on my job or a promotion or pay a bill, etc etc. I could give two fucks about your perception of me. That's your problem, you think that you are the queen and that every person should work to be in your good graces or else!!! Hoe please! I don't give a fuck about you or what you like or what you do! I feel kinda special knowing that I'm still on your mind so much that a year later, you still feel compelled to "muddy" me up. lol. Do you actually think I give a fuck about mud on black-tgirls forum? Really? The last you heard of me was over a year ago. So whatever you have to say is old news. I don't even participate on this forum like I used to. I'm sure you've noticed my lack of input here in the past year. I may pay for a subscription or two every once in a while to the site. I may come to see if old friends have returned. I may even come back to see if Roc has put up some more pics of new girls, but other than that, I've moved on to things that really matter. So go ahead, say what you gotta say and then ask the question to the Forum followers if they really give a fuck about what you've said about the Vidman and I guarantee you they will say "HELL NO!" lol. You are so stuck in the btg forum world it's really funny. Amber, if you don't move on, you will be the only one still here. I've noticed that you are the only transgirl who still keeps up GARBAGE on this forum. Sasha doesn't, Lux doesn't, Rems doesn't. ONLY YOUR RETARDED ASS. So keep on being BITTER towards men. It only shows your lack of maturity and how angry you are.

In life, Amber, everyone you meet will not like you. I've met girls that I've grown great bonds with and I've met some that didn't spawn a friendship. I'm sure you've met guys that you are cool with and some you don't fuck with. It's life and shit happens. You shouldn't get so caught up in that. Just because people don't believe in your philosophies on subjects doesn't mean you have to get mad and "muddy" them up. LOL!! I love that word...muddy. lol. And you wonder why August Alsina refused to take a picture. Not because he has a problem with transsexuals, but because he knows that transsexuals like you exist. He knows that the second he makes a wrong move or says something that's not in tune with the mindset of a girl like you, you and girls like you will "muddy" him. lol. There is a difference between a tranny and a transsexual. Transsexuals are respectful and respectable women who have other things going on in life other than keeping up drama and trying to come up on someone else. Trannys are girls like you. Angry bitches always trying to keep up mess and start trouble. So, to any transsexual reading this dialogue, please know that I know the difference. You see, August is afraid of the Trannys. He probably isn't as well versed in the transgendered community to know that there is even a difference between trannys and transsexuals. But I know and I also know what you are Amber. What you are attempting to carry on with me, Amber, only validates what Raheme, me and others are speaking of. Oops, my bad. Let me not mention Raheme, you might think I'm on his dick or something. lol. You need some anger management classes. You also need some jealousy management classes. Anyone that disagrees with you or chooses the side of your debate opponent is automatically your enemy. Not cool. Just because someone has a difference in one of your opinions doesn't mean he is your enemy. He may agree with 98% or your opinions, just not the feeble 2%. Realizing that the world does not revolve around you can be disappointing Amber, but the world doesn't revolve around you and it's time you realize that.

So, go ahead and do what you gotta do Amber. I could care less about a bunch of dudes on a site of which none of them know me other than by the name VIDMAN. No man on this Forum can ring my phone and say "whats up Vid." No man on this site can display my address, place of employment, family members, vehicles, etc etc. So I don't give a fuck what you put on here! There sure aren't any girls roaming around here anymore so I really don't give a fuck. I'm quite sure whatever ancient news you divulge about me will not inspire the Forum to google me. lol. I've moved on to other aspects of my life. I'm working on career, travels and a child. By the way, I'll be in Los Angeles on the 4th of July weekend and I'll be in Domincan Republic on the week of July 21st. lol. Those are more important than what your shallow mind has to say on the btg Forum. I know you have a life other than here Ms. Amberskyi. lol. Oh, I gave you some current info on me in the previous sentence (career, travels and child). So there, now you have new info. Put some mud on it. lol

Praying for you AmSkyi. So bitter. So hostile. So "muddy". lol

tsamberskyi
05-27-2014, 04:52 PM
Amber, fuck your respect. Your respect isn't going to get me a raise on my job or a promotion or pay a bill, etc etc. I could give two fucks about your perception of me. That's your problem, you think that you are the queen and that every person should work to be in your good graces or else!!! Hoe please! I don't give a fuck about you or what you like or what you do! I feel kinda special knowing that I'm still on your mind so much that a year later, you still feel compelled to "muddy" me up. lol. Do you actually think I give a fuck about mud on black-tgirls forum? Really? The last you heard of me was over a year ago. So whatever you have to say is old news. I don't even participate on this forum like I used to. I'm sure you've noticed my lack of input here in the past year. I may pay for a subscription or two every once in a while to the site. I may come to see if old friends have returned. I may even come back to see if Roc has put up some more pics of new girls, but other than that, I've moved on to things that really matter. So go ahead, say what you gotta say and then ask the question to the Forum followers if they really give a fuck about what you've said about the Vidman and I guarantee you they will say "HELL NO!" lol. You are so stuck in the btg forum world it's really funny. Amber, if you don't move on, you will be the only one still here. I've noticed that you are the only transgirl who still keeps up GARBAGE on this forum. Sasha doesn't, Lux doesn't, Rems doesn't. ONLY YOUR RETARDED ASS. So keep on being BITTER towards men. It only shows your lack of maturity and how angry you are.

In life, Amber, everyone you meet will not like you. I've met girls that I've grown great bonds with and I've met some that didn't spawn a friendship. I'm sure you've met guys that you are cool with and some you don't fuck with. It's life and shit happens. You shouldn't get so caught up in that. Just because people don't believe in your philosophies on subjects doesn't mean you have to get mad and "muddy" them up. LOL!! I love that word...muddy. lol. And you wonder why August Alsina refused to take a picture. Not because he has a problem with transsexuals, but because he knows that transsexuals like you exist. He knows that the second he makes a wrong move or says something that's not in tune with the mindset of a girl like you, you and girls like you will "muddy" him. lol. There is a difference between a tranny and a transsexual. Transsexuals are respectful and respectable women who have other things going on in life other than keeping up drama and trying to come up on someone else. Trannys are girls like you. Angry bitches always trying to keep up mess and start trouble. So, to any transsexual reading this dialogue, please know that I know the difference. You see, August is afraid of the Trannys. He probably isn't as well versed in the transgendered community to know that there is even a difference between trannys and transsexuals. But I know and I also know what you are Amber. What you are attempting to carry on with me, Amber, only validates what Raheme, me and others are speaking of. Oops, my bad. Let me not mention Raheme, you might think I'm on his dick or something. lol. You need some anger management classes. You also need some jealousy management classes. Anyone that disagrees with you or chooses the side of your debate opponent is automatically your enemy. Not cool. Just because someone has a difference in one of your opinions doesn't mean he is your enemy. He may agree with 98% or your opinions, just not the feeble 2%. Realizing that the world does not revolve around you can be disappointing Amber, but the world doesn't revolve around you and it's time you realize that.

So, go ahead and do what you gotta do Amber. I could care less about a bunch of dudes on a site of which none of them know me other than by the name VIDMAN. No man on this Forum can ring my phone and say "whats up Vid." No man on this site can display my address, place of employment, family members, vehicles, etc etc. So I don't give a fuck what you put on here! There sure aren't any girls roaming around here anymore so I really don't give a fuck. I'm quite sure whatever ancient news you divulge about me will not inspire the Forum to google me. lol. I've moved on to other aspects of my life. I'm working on career, travels and a child. By the way, I'll be in Los Angeles on the 4th of July weekend and I'll be in Domincan Republic on the week of July 21st. lol. Those are more important than what your shallow mind has to say on the btg Forum. I know you have a life other than here Ms. Amberskyi. lol. Oh, I gave you some current info on me in the previous sentence (career, travels and child). So there, now you have new info. Put some mud on it. lol

Praying for you AmSkyi. So bitter. So hostile. So "muddy". lol


wow, i must of really gotten under your skin lol
I already said your not going to give two fucks about my respect.I only mentioned that in regards to your claim that I'm "bitter" and hate men.Its very interesting but I've noticed that men like to throw that bitter shit at woman in an attempt to fill her with self doubt and manipulate her standards.The only men who have ever called me bitter are the ones that cant reach that bar so I'm not surprised that your using it.
Lets explore tho...so I must be bitter because I expect men to treat ts woman with the same amount of respect that they do genetic woman? So in order for me to be well adjusted I should just accept the fact that being trans means that Im less than everyone else? That its okay for men to sleep with us but be ashamed to be associated with? I should accept that false notion that all ts woman are sex workers? That's pretty much the only things I harp on about on here.Sorry that I'm not going to join the circle jerk while yall try to justify yall sad self loathing dl lifystyles.
I do agree with you that it def must say something that I'm the only ts girl that still posts on here but not about me.Maybe the others are tired of coming on to interact with a bunch of self loathing men who refuse to see ts woman outside of their very narrow perception. Some part of me feels compelled tho to speak on behalf of ts woman and try to reach at least one person. To counteract the negative associations that many have on this forum. That maybe at least one guy reads through this shit and understand that being filled with shame and adopting a dl lifestyle is not the only way of interacting with ts woman.
Your attempts to define me are laughable.Oooo..you say I'm a tranny so I must be lol.No nigga, Im a strong,intelligent and opinionated black woman.I understand that's intimidating for some but thats not my problem.The only validation I need is from my family and they are proud of the woman I have become and am continuing to become.
I have never in my life outed another man for dealing with a ts woman.I respect myself as a woman and to out another person for having dealings with me would be putting myself in a position for people to view me as something other than what I know myself to be.
Me talking shit about you on here is nothing close to the same as what Sidney Star and that Honey dip chick did.No one knows you on here negro lol.What I have to say on here has zero impact on your actual life.All for my personal amusement and enjoyment.Its called anonymity moron.
Im done with this tho.I could call out the many names, dates, and incidents but you know the kind of sad, miserable, manipulative and desperate person you are.You know the dicks you begged to suck, the girls who couldnt get hard for you because they found you so pitiful,who was only was using you for a place to crash at when they're in town.You know all the failed relationship attempts with ts woman.The many girls who have put you on blast as a fuck nigga.Your a cock whore...I know it, you know it and most of bgc knows it lol
I would say I wish you well but karma has away of dealing with men like you.You've taken up enough of my time. Congrats on the child and god bless that woman. She's in for quite the experience with you lol

tsamberskyi
05-27-2014, 04:56 PM
To the rest of the forum I apologize for things getting so ugly but I really cant stand this person.This is not the first,second or third time we've gotten into it on here.
I try to treat everyone with respect until you disrespect me or anyone I care about. This motherfucker is personally very disrespectful to me and many ts woman I know.
Just know that I dont see every man on here in a negative light.Some of yall are very cool and if not that at least respectful lol. My rant doesnt apply to yall and please dont take it personally.

tsamberskyi
05-27-2014, 05:01 PM
Hoe please. I tried to holler at you 3 years ago when you first got started on this site bitchboy. After I realized how shallow, confrontational and bitter you were, I quickly halted my courting. As far as you blocking me, you blocked me just last year when that silly ass girl lied and told you and Remy that I tried to extort her. I put her on blast and proved that she was lying and that you jumped to conclusions before hearing my side of the story. Yeah, she pulled a tranny. You know, trying to get niggas muddy. Yeah, you know. The same reason why Chingy's career is shot and why August Alsina won't take pictures with chicks like you.

Yeah, you did have my shit at one time. But like I said in my original posts yesterday....that was so long ago so you don't know shit about me in the present. So you can throw out allegations of the ancient past, who gives a fuck. No one on here knows me or what I look like, or anything about me for that matter. Do you think I give two fucks about what you say on black tgirls forum? LMAO!! Silly dummy. Children never grow up. In order to move forward in life, Amber, you must leave behind your childish ways. Muddy me up......LMAO!!! Typical tranny shit.

quickly halted lol? i would say after the third time asking its considered begging smh
the same nigga who asked to see me last summer when he was around my way.yea you halted alright lol
Your the most beautiful and intelligent woman theyve ever come across when they trying to spit game but now Im a tranny cause you got no play? bwahahaha

Ms Remy M
05-27-2014, 05:50 PM
Hoe please. I tried to holler at you 3 years ago when you first got started on this site bitchboy. After I realized how shallow, confrontational and bitter you were, I quickly halted my courting. As far as you blocking me, you blocked me just last year when that silly ass girl lied and told you and Remy that I tried to extort her. I put her on blast and proved that she was lying and that you jumped to conclusions before hearing my side of the story. Yeah, she pulled a tranny. You know, trying to get niggas muddy. Yeah, you know. The same reason why Chingy's career is shot and why August Alsina won't take pictures with chicks like you.

Yeah, you did have my shit at one time. But like I said in my original posts yesterday....that was so long ago so you don't know shit about me in the present. So you can throw out allegations of the ancient past, who gives a fuck. No one on here knows me or what I look like, or anything about me for that matter. Do you think I give two fucks about what you say on black tgirls forum? LMAO!! Silly dummy. Children never grow up. In order to move forward in life, Amber, you must leave behind your childish ways. Muddy me up......LMAO!!! Typical tranny shit.

Reposted from my earlier post. Why ignore the facts...

"That's not how he "lost millions". He lost his money due to piss poor business decisions and over all not having the business ethics to maintain what he had. Less floss and more strong investments in business that will flourish and he might still have that money. Musically, as you notice, there is no mention of artist or exec that said they will no longer work with him because of a rumor that he hooks up with trans women. Because they would call his lies out, it's easier for him to blame his failure as a rapper on a trans woman than on the fact that he just isn't that good.

For instance, his first two albums (released in 2003 and 2004) were certified platinum, and his career peaked then. By his third album released in 2006 the critics were giving him negative reviews and he just barely went gold. By his fourth album (released in 2007) he was only able to sell 30,000 copies (really Chingy, there are rappers selling more than that out the trunk of their cars) and didn't even bother to release it in the UK which might have helped his sales some. You would be hard pressed to find a record label willing to invest in a failing artist in this current climate of the music industry with internet pirating run rampant and the industry trying to figure out how to be relevant (in sales). Now, the Sidney Starr rumors didn't start until 2009 (well after his decline) so while there certainly was some controversy surrounding him, there is a saying in the entertainment business, all publicity is good publicity. He just didn't capitalize on it in the best way he could have. At the end of the day, like so many people, they look for any other excuse other than themselves to explain away their own failings."

I imagine he did that interview because he needs to get his name back in the lime-light because he needs to be popular again for a record company to even think about distributing what may amount to another pitiful album sales venture, and nothing boosts a persons popularity better than drama and controversy. Hence why many get into battle raps, and reality show stars end up getting sponsorship deals for doing nothing relevant aside from being a hot mess on tv.

vidman
05-28-2014, 12:23 AM
Reposted from my earlier post. Why ignore the facts...

"That's not how he "lost millions". He lost his money due to piss poor business decisions and over all not having the business ethics to maintain what he had. Less floss and more strong investments in business that will flourish and he might still have that money. Musically, as you notice, there is no mention of artist or exec that said they will no longer work with him because of a rumor that he hooks up with trans women. Because they would call his lies out, it's easier for him to blame his failure as a rapper on a trans woman than on the fact that he just isn't that good.

For instance, his first two albums (released in 2003 and 2004) were certified platinum, and his career peaked then. By his third album released in 2006 the critics were giving him negative reviews and he just barely went gold. By his fourth album (released in 2007) he was only able to sell 30,000 copies (really Chingy, there are rappers selling more than that out the trunk of their cars) and didn't even bother to release it in the UK which might have helped his sales some. You would be hard pressed to find a record label willing to invest in a failing artist in this current climate of the music industry with internet pirating run rampant and the industry trying to figure out how to be relevant (in sales). Now, the Sidney Starr rumors didn't start until 2009 (well after his decline) so while there certainly was some controversy surrounding him, there is a saying in the entertainment business, all publicity is good publicity. He just didn't capitalize on it in the best way he could have. At the end of the day, like so many people, they look for any other excuse other than themselves to explain away their own failings."

I imagine he did that interview because he needs to get his name back in the lime-light because he needs to be popular again for a record company to even think about distributing what may amount to another pitiful album sales venture, and nothing boosts a persons popularity better than drama and controversy. Hence why many get into battle raps, and reality show stars end up getting sponsorship deals for doing nothing relevant aside from being a hot mess on tv.

You have a good point, Remy. He had tons of issues with his career, but the transsexual spotlight didn't help. Especially in that time when LGBT and the rap community was not a good mix. The perception of "gay" and the so called "hard" or "thug" perception of rappers just wasn't something that you mentioned in the same sentence. It was more taboo then than it is now. Transsexuals are more accepted now than then. People like Janet Mock and other successful transgendered women are setting great examples. I've seen Janet twice now on MSNBC. Melissa Harris-Perry has had her on twice as a guest. She is an outstanding woman. Anyway, I'm straying from the point which is, you're absolutely correct.

vidman
05-28-2014, 01:21 AM
To the rest of the forum I apologize for things getting so ugly but I really cant stand this person.This is not the first,second or third time we've gotten into it on here.
I try to treat everyone with respect until you disrespect me or anyone I care about. This motherfucker is personally very disrespectful to me and many ts woman I know.
Just know that I dont see every man on here in a negative light.Some of yall are very cool and if not that at least respectful lol. My rant doesnt apply to yall and please dont take it personally.


Amber, the problem is YOU DON'T KNOW ME! If you ever took the time to get to know me, you wouldn't feel that way. I have reached out to you a number of times to attempt to talk to you about different things. Not in an attempt to try to holler at you, but simply to try to gain an understanding of who you are and likewise. Everytime I've done that, you blew me off, smacked your lips like "nigga anyway". Once again, an example of your closed mindedness and resistance to reason with people who may have realized that they may have offended you or made a mistake. I feel that one of the reasons Remy and I aren't friends anymore is because of you. Remy and I were supposed to ride bikes together a year or two ago. I was supposed to bring my bike up there and we ride out. All that changed, suddenly, when you moved your ass to VA. I'm not trying to expose the history of the debacle to everyone, but damnit ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! You know nothing about me and the minute you hear something about me, without even knowing the entire situation, your hatred for me compounds. I've never hated you and I still don't. Now, I'm putting this out here for everyone since you want to be all sentimental to the Forum and shit. So check it......if you want to talk to me about all accusations and the things that have created such hatred for me, then call me and let's talk about it. We won't shout, we won't talk over one another. We will respect each other and listen to both sides. I can just about guarantee that I can justify every rumor about me or every questionable statement I have ever made. I have always been a supporter of transsexuals. Trolls come on here berating the girls and I always express my discontent. You haven't given me a fair shot. When I attempted to holler at you, we talked one good day and we never really talked anymore after that. Basically, you didn't show much interest so I stopped giving chase. And this is before all the bullshit rumors got started. Again, you never knew anything about me nor did you try to. I am a very forgiving and compassionate guy and this is something you can't even fathom about me because you think I'm some evil, tranny hater that just wants to fuck all the girls. Well guess what......you're wrong as fuck about me. Remy can tell you that me and her were pretty damn tight before the big fallout. Remy, me, Cosmo and the lil girl from Houston, TX (forget her name). I'm not a bad guy. I'm just misunderstood and you are clouded about me due to all the bullshit rumors that you have heard. Yes, I've made some controversial comments on this Forum. But in most cases, once I hear another perspective from someone else, I have the ability to reason and determine if my perspective is sound or the other person's perspective is sound. Example.....Remy just posted about the Chingy career blog and I read what she said and realized that I was wrong about blaming his career failure on just the Sidney Starr situation.

Amber, we don't have to be friends, but let's talk. We owe each other that. I'm not doing this for the forum. I'm doing this because I'm that nigga who don't give a fuck about what the forum has to say. Call me. Check your PM!

To show the type of guy I am, I'm going to delete the response to your message that you left. You are totally right, the back and forth bickering and airing or our laundry on here is ridiculous and elementary. I'm done.

Ms Remy M
05-28-2014, 03:31 AM
You have a good point, Remy. He had tons of issues with his career, but the transsexual spotlight didn't help. Especially in that time when LGBT and the rap community was not a good mix. The perception of "gay" and the so called "hard" or "thug" perception of rappers just wasn't something that you mentioned in the same sentence. It was more taboo then than it is now. Transsexuals are more accepted now than then. People like Janet Mock and other successful transgendered women are setting great examples. I've seen Janet twice now on MSNBC. Melissa Harris-Perry has had her on twice as a guest. She is an outstanding woman. Anyway, I'm straying from the point which is, you're absolutely correct.

Yeah I agree the Sidney Starr situation didn't help anyone least of all Chingy. In that instance I'll agree since it was all a lie, but in other instances when the guy is actually into trans it would be more beneficial to just be upfront about it when called out rather than try to continue hide it. The entertainer gains more support from the LGBT community with their dollars than they lose from haters who likely only bought bootleg copies anyway.

vidman
05-28-2014, 12:39 PM
Yeah I agree the Sidney Starr situation didn't help anyone least of all Chingy. In that instance I'll agree since it was all a lie, but in other instances when the guy is actually into trans it would be more beneficial to just be upfront about it when called out rather than try to continue hide it. The entertainer gains more support from the LGBT community with their dollars than they lose from haters who likely only bought bootleg copies anyway.

LOL! That's all I buy. Just kidding.