The one time you dig up Christian from the vault...

[SHAUN]

... is in a vid where he gets his man-arse ploughed by a brown-skinned babe lol

Look, really, I don't mind vids where a man takes it up his ass; it's all part of lifes rich tapestry lol... It's certainly aint my thing, but hey, different strokes and all that, right :)

I'm only making the point that for a long time now we've been served hardcore vids where the lucky men who get to slide their dicks into these brown-skinned babes appear to have just been released after a 4 year spell with the Taliban, or maybe they have anorexia, and, frankly, could really do with eating plenty of good food and spend some hard time working out in the gym and down the track and field (You know, some of em, it looks like a stiff breeze would blow them over lol... I'm just saying)

.... And then, when you get lucky old Christian to come back after his (enforced?) absence... it's only to appear in a vid where he gets his man-arse fucked out by one of your babes lol....

Who'da thunk it? lol

Oh well, now that he's back on this site (if he is back on this site...?) maybe us old fashioned guys will get to enjoy some straight sex scenes with some babes and that lucky old dog?

blue eyed devil

[tyrone70]

... is in a vid where he gets his man-arse ploughed by a brown-skinned babe lol

Look, really, I don't mind vids where a man takes it up his ass; it's all part of lifes rich tapestry lol... It's certainly aint my thing, but hey, different strokes and all that, right :)

I'm only making the point that for a long time now we've been served hardcore vids where the lucky men who get to slide their dicks into these brown-skinned babes appear to have just been released after a 4 year spell with the Taliban, or maybe they have anorexia, and, frankly, could really do with eating plenty of good food and spend some hard time working out in the gym and down the track and field (You know, some of em, it looks like a stiff breeze would blow them over lol... I'm just saying)

.... And then, when you get lucky old Christian to come back after his (enforced?) absence... it's only to appear in a vid where he gets his man-arse fucked out by one of your babes lol....

Who'da thunk it? lol

Oh well, now that he's back on this site (if he is back on this site...?) maybe us old fashioned guys will get to enjoy some straight sex scenes with some babes and that lucky old dog?

blue eyed devil
I can't stand when a dude takes it. not a turn on at all

[chubbychaser]

I fuckin hate the hardcore male talent!!!They dick don't get hard or it's to lil, they can't really perform, like wtf is going on. Christian is nice , the guy that fucked the shit out of the black tgirl name ebony is nice. The others not so much.

Now about guys taking it from the tgirls, i like it cause i like watching tgirls dominate but then again i don't like it cause it's some manly hairy ass dude taking it in the ass. So it's a turn on but a turn off at the sametime. But shit i aint complaining as long as its GOOD CONTENT!! I aint mad at christian if i was him I'D DO THE SAME. He gets it innnnnnnn with the tgirls

[mick foleyv2]

I can't stand when a dude takes it. not a turn on at all

same way I feel, I can deal with oral but the man getting fuck3d is a no-go

[SHAUN]

Personally I luv to see a woman, T or otherwise, get all Domme on a guy... except for the bit where a guy gets his man-hole ploughed lol!!!!

I luv to see a woman, T or otherwise, fuk the hell out of a guys face, grinding her pussy/ass/dick all in his face... I luv that... For example, seeing Patra fuck christian's face was sexy...

But when that woman, T or othewise, uses her dick or strap-on to plough the guy up his ass, that's about as horny to me as animal porn lol.... Just doesn't work for me...

A woman can still be Domme and control (cuntrol) a dude...

The shame for me was that for a looooooong time now much/most of the hardcore stuff here has been pretty lame because its featured gorgeous womanly models NOT being done justice by what appears to be teebnage boys long out of puberty, and consequently the scenes just don't "work".... And then when christian is finally "invited" back to this site?... It's so we can all witness a man being fucked up his ass lol... Oh well.

TS sites still feel obligated to cater for us (their customers) as if we all secretly like to get fucked up the ass by these women lol... One day thay "myth" will be flushed out as the generalistic bullshit it reeeeeealy is lol.... It really is long long long overdue that TS sites provide specialist sites showing men getting fucked by TS Women, so that the rest of us don't have to grimace our way through it (just like straight porn with genetic women has specialist sites that show genetic women with strap-ons fucking men, rather than mixing it all together)

Basically, we're guys who like to fuck women up the ass, and we don't discriminate between women with dicks and women without dicks..... But our open-mindedness in this respect DOES NOT translate into some desire to get our own asses fucked, either by a dick, or a TS dick, or a strap-on. Period.

blue eyed devil

[blk_jnd]

... is in a vid where he gets his man-arse ploughed by a brown-skinned babe lol

Look, really, I don't mind vids where a man takes it up his ass; it's all part of lifes rich tapestry lol... It's certainly aint my thing, but hey, different strokes and all that, right :)

Man I really hate that shit ... almost cried about that set.

Especially when you could see the jiggly big ol' ass on Patra as she plows him. She should be offering dat ass up ferchrissakes!

You wonder what aliens would do if they landed in the middle of that scene? Probably scamper out of the solar system with an urgent message back to base that "these ones are all mixed up, nothing to see here".

[Ms Remy M]

If a girl is topping in a video, then that is what she likes to do, so it's not a matter of us (producers) telling them to do that, it's the models doing what they like to do.

As far as better male talent, we are always on the look out, and if any of you guys want to step up to the plate, by all means let us know.

[blk_jnd]

If a girl is topping in a video, then that is what she likes to do, so it's not a matter of us (producers) telling them to do that, it's the models doing what they like to do.

As far as better male talent, we are always on the look out, and if any of you guys want to step up to the plate, by all means let us know.

We understand Remy, absolutely no hatin' like we all said.

But, man, that Patra's ass ...

[GroobySteven]

If a girl is topping in a video, then that is what she likes to do, so it's not a matter of us (producers) telling them to do that, it's the models doing what they like to do.

As far as better male talent, we are always on the look out, and if any of you guys want to step up to the plate, by all means let us know.

*drops into the lingo*

Word!

[SHAUN]

If a girl is topping in a video, then that is what she likes to do, so it's not a matter of us (producers) telling them to do that, it's the models doing what they like to do.

As far as better male talent, we are always on the look out, and if any of you guys want to step up to the plate, by all means let us know.

Yeah true...

(You heard her, guys!)

Or, failing a flood of applicants, maybe aspire to use established male talent that is already out there?... (After all, many of them already appear on other grooby sites regularly)

I'm thinking they are better suited to engaging in lusty sex with the beautiful models on this site than some of the undernourished pixies and tubby hunchbacks that are currently used here lol... (Bitchy of me, I know, but I'm just saying what I see)... And anyway, think of the poor T girl models lol... How must they feel appearing in a xxx vid whilst knowing it just isn't working?

Seriously tho, I got no prob with Patra screwing whoever up the ass...(especially if it's one of those androgynous skinny girly-boys lol)...

The thing that actually bugged me was that the one time this site brings back a guy who CAN do justice to beauty and lust (Christian, that lucky old dog) it's so that we all get the pleasure of seeing his man-hole ploughed open.

Oh well, it's funny how the world turns :)

I hope you're well and in good spirits, Remy... I still think you (and Radius and KK and Buddy...) should start a high-end version of black-tgirls.com, packed full of the elite brown-skinned and caramel models modelling sexy lingerie... y'know, like shemalexxx is a high-brow version of shemaleyum... Fucking awesome ;)

blue eyed devil

[SHAUN]

We understand Remy, absolutely no hatin' like we all said.

But, man, that Patra's ass ...

LOL.... I concur...

My heart is still aching, still a little broken about that one lol, oh well.

blue eyed devil

[Ms Remy M]

Yeah true...

(You heard her, guys!)

Or, failing a flood of applicants, maybe aspire to use established male talent that is already out there?... (After all, many of them already appear on other grooby sites regularly)

I'm thinking they are better suited to engaging in lusty sex with the beautiful models on this site than some of the undernourished pixies and tubby hunchbacks that are currently used here lol... (Bitchy of me, I know, but I'm just saying what I see)... And anyway, think of the poor T girl models lol... How must they feel appearing in a xxx vid whilst knowing it just isn't working?

Seriously tho, I got no prob with Patra screwing whoever up the ass...(especially if it's one of those androgynous skinny girly-boys lol)...

The thing that actually bugged me was that the one time this site brings back a guy who CAN do justice to beauty and lust (Christian, that lucky old dog) it's so that we all get the pleasure of seeing his man-hole ploughed open.

Oh well, it's funny how the world turns :)

I hope you're well and in good spirits, Remy... I still think you (and Radius and KK and Buddy...) should start a high-end version of black-tgirls.com, packed full of the elite brown-skinned and caramel models modelling sexy lingerie... y'know, like shemalexxx is a high-brow version of shemaleyum... Fucking awesome ;)

blue eyed devil

99% of the established male talent is on the West Coast, I'm on the East Coast in bumfuck Va so there's the problem lol I'll be relocating closer to a major metro area soon though so hopefully I'll be able to find some reliable talent. To be fair to my current male performer, he has about the same exact build as two of my previous performers (Cane & Lucky) that no one complained much about. The only difference is that my current guy is white...

[GroobySteven]

99% of the established male talent is on the West Coast,

All three of them ...

[bigruss]

has grooby ever tried to recruit guys from straight porn like Christian and Ramon. Times seem to be changing maybe there are some guys willing to come to the ts side of porn. especially since there fucking ts off camera. or even a dude from gay porn, that's were Christian started. because grooby has the best black ts on the internet but only a handful of really good hardcore scenes. I just hate seeing bad hc scenes I watch them once and then I'm done. I wish Kane was still alive the best black make talent ever on this site, he was like the black Christian.

[Indy24]

*drops into the lingo*

Word!

Can we get some rough estimates on the average TS Topping vs Bottom in flicks?

My guess would be 70/30 in favor of TS bottoming. Point being that with all that TS ass being fucked on a regular basis why are jokers still bitching about the few times a TS slangs it back?

Hell why are guys checking for a male pornstars anyway? I thought the whole idea of watching porn from a straight male's POV was to tune the guy out and pretend you were the guy in the flick anyway...?

[SHAUN]

Probably more like 60/40 I'd estimate.... and not so long ago I'd say 50/50 at best.

Even if I "concede" that it's 70/30 now, the truth is it's been weighted in favour of TS fucking guys for many many years now, either with the whole vid featuring hte TS fucking a guy, or with the vid featuring a portion of TS-fucks-guy and then another portion where the guy-fucks-TS..... which is kinda like mixing sweet and salty popcorn in the same bag: fucking annoying lol (oh, I realise that there's maybe 1% or 2% of people who actually enjoy having salty and sweet popcorn in the same bag, but why the fuk they are catered for so much is beyond me; they should have their own niche market, period)

Which brings me onto your 70/30 argument: you ask why should we bitch when 70% of xxx scenes show TS models being fucked by the guy??? Because to me, and many many guys, seeing a TS Woman fucking a guy up his ass is as sensual and kinky and sexy and attractive as seeing a vaginal woman with a strap-on fuck a guy up his ass.

There is a niche that caters for guys who want to see vaginal women wearing strap-ons fuck the hell out of guys' ass holes.... and that's exactly what it should be: a NICHE within straight porn.... And that's also exactly what it should be within TS porn.... a specific niche.

Quite why the presence of a cock on a TS Woman pre-determines that the massive bulk of video material should revolve around her cock, including her fucking men up the arse, has always been beyond me lol!!!... I LOVE the fact that TS Women have a cock... But I am much more interested in her as a whole Woman (character, eye contact, voice, face, skin, legs, curves, hips, ass and especially ass HOLE) than just one tiny specific handful of inches between her legs.

This is partly why TS Women find themselves painted into a corner and are "imprisoned" by stinking attitudes: because people (including primarily their "fans" and porn producers!) will not let them forget that 98% of their relevance and worth is their cock...

I have known for a long time now how toxic that cock obsession is to TS Women, and have consistently argued that guys who obsess about pure TS cockCockCOCK should have their own specific niche sites which they can subscribe to (just like vaginal women fucking guys with strap-ons is available as a specific genre, seperate from the rest of straight porn)

So, yeh, we will bitch about 30% (nearly a fucking third!) of xxx vids showing TS Women fuck men up the ass.... just like most guys would bitch about joining a straight site and seeing a third of the xxx vids showing vaginal women with strap-ons fuck guys up the ass....

Simple, really.... Well it is simple once you accept that TS Women are NOT defined by their cock.

blue eyed devil

[Ms Remy M]

has grooby ever tried to recruit guys from straight porn like Christian and Ramon. Times seem to be changing maybe there are some guys willing to come to the ts side of porn. especially since there fucking ts off camera. or even a dude from gay porn, that's were Christian started. because grooby has the best black ts on the internet but only a handful of really good hardcore scenes. I just hate seeing bad hc scenes I watch them once and then I'm done. I wish Kane was still alive the best black make talent ever on this site, he was like the black Christian.

Yeah, I miss Kane, RIP. I'm still hoping to one day find a guy that can do what Kane was able to do on and off camera.

[Ms Remy M]

Probably more like 60/40 I'd estimate.... and not so long ago I'd say 50/50 at best.

Even if I "concede" that it's 70/30 now, the truth is it's been weighted in favour of TS fucking guys for many many years now, either with the whole vid featuring hte TS fucking a guy, or with the vid featuring a portion of TS-fucks-guy and then another portion where the guy-fucks-TS..... which is kinda like mixing sweet and salty popcorn in the same bag: fucking annoying lol (oh, I realise that there's maybe 1% or 2% of people who actually enjoy having salty and sweet popcorn in the same bag, but why the fuk they are catered for so much is beyond me; they should have their own niche market, period)

Which brings me onto your 70/30 argument: you ask why should we bitch when 70% of xxx scenes show TS models being fucked by the guy??? Because to me, and many many guys, seeing a TS Woman fucking a guy up his ass is as sensual and kinky and sexy and attractive as seeing a vaginal woman with a strap-on fuck a guy up his ass.

There is a niche that caters for guys who want to see vaginal women wearing strap-ons fuck the hell out of guys' ass holes.... and that's exactly what it should be: a NICHE within straight porn.... And that's also exactly what it should be within TS porn.... a specific niche.

Quite why the presence of a cock on a TS Woman pre-determines that the massive bulk of video material should revolve around her cock, including her fucking men up the arse, has always been beyond me lol!!!... I LOVE the fact that TS Women have a cock... But I am much more interested in her as a whole Woman (character, eye contact, voice, face, skin, legs, curves, hips, ass and especially ass HOLE) than just one tiny specific handful of inches between her legs.

This is partly why TS Women find themselves painted into a corner and are "imprisoned" by stinking attitudes: because people (including primarily their "fans" and porn producers!) will not let them forget that 98% of their relevance and worth is their cock...

I have known for a long time now how toxic that cock obsession is to TS Women, and have consistently argued that guys who obsess about pure TS cockCockCOCK should have their own specific niche sites which they can subscribe to (just like vaginal women fucking guys with strap-ons is available as a specific genre, seperate from the rest of straight porn)

So, yeh, we will bitch about 30% (nearly a fucking third!) of xxx vids showing TS Women fuck men up the ass.... just like most guys would bitch about joining a straight site and seeing a third of the xxx vids showing vaginal women with strap-ons fuck guys up the ass....

Simple, really.... Well it is simple once you accept that TS Women are NOT defined by their cock.

blue eyed devil

Actually, your wrong. Go to the SEARCH page and look for yourself (I just did). You can search for all the productions of Ts topping Guy and Guy topping Ts. There's only 1 and a half pages of the Ts topping the Guy and 5 pages of Guy topping the TS. It was never almost 50/50, the site has always favored the girl as the bottom, and at most there is maybe 2-3 scenes a year with the girl as the top.

[SHAUN]

Just out of interest - how are those vids that feature TS-fucks-guy and guy-fucks-TS in the same scene categorized?.... In any event, I wouldn't dispute the stat you gave in regards of Grooby policy... Grooby is indeed one of the more enlightened providers of TS porn, both solo and xxx..... (I'm talking about a rough average for the whole TS porn universe)

[Indy24]

Wait, stop! Flag on play! The initial reason for this thread was to bitch about this site specifically now folks are flip flopping once proven wrong.

As far as the "TS Porn Universe" goes, where are facts to back those statements?

If I go on just about any free porn site right now and click on their shemale/Tranny section 85% -90% of each page are links to TS getting topped.

The only exception is refining your search strictly to "Tranny fucks guy" or something of that nature.

As far as "pegging" or bend over boyfriend shit between cis-women and men goes, you'd have really search for something like that. Between all the other porn categorizes that's not even in the top 10. So for someone who claims to be as put off by stuff like that, I really don't see how it's even an issue when Foot fetishes and BBW's are more popular.

[SHAUN]

Damn, you've seen through my "claim" that I'm put off by stuff-like-that lol... Yeh, I spose I'm protesting a little too much, right?...My goodness, your sharp!

Well done to you; I'm proven wrong, wrong and wrong!

So you can pat yourself on the back and calm down now, lol, ok?

Ok.

blue eyed devil

Oh btw... How ARE vids categorized when they feature the TS being topped AND the guy being topped in the same-damn-scene???

Not that I should be concerned, I suppose, because since I'm into TS Women then obviously all I should really be concerned about is cockCockCOCK, right? I mean, I shouldn't really be audacious enough to even have an opinion about how TS Women are portrayed in the TS Porn Universe... Oh sorry, I mean in the "Grooby Universe"; I forgot, this forum, despite it's "leftfield" status, is still pretty much a parochial affair lol

[Ms Remy M]

Just out of interest - how are those vids that feature TS-fucks-guy and guy-fucks-TS in the same scene categorized?.... In any event, I wouldn't dispute the stat you gave in regards of Grooby policy... Grooby is indeed one of the more enlightened providers of TS porn, both solo and xxx..... (I'm talking about a rough average for the whole TS porn universe)

It would likely be categorized as both. We've been referring to this topic with regards to the Black Tgirls site, had we known you meant every other site except Black Tgirls I would not have bothered mentioning the ability to search for those specific categories and how there is primarily Guy fucking TS on this site. I'd imagine you'd have to be solely referring to Brazilian trans porn for the ratio to come close to being in favor of TS fucking Guy. You'd have to show me some real proof that trans porn is greatly skewed toward TS fucking Guy on any site other than solo sites and/or Kink's TS Seduction.

[SHAUN]

Think of vaginal women in xxx scenes with men... now think of the ratio of those same scenes wherein the vaginal woman dons a strap-on and fucks the hell out of the guy.

Got that? Good.

Now think of TS women in xxx scenes with men.... and now think of the ratio of those same scenes wherein the TS woman gets a hard-on and fucks the hell out of the guy.

With me? Cool.

And no, I'm not talking about specifically Grooby TS porn (even tho it's invariably my fave)... I'm talking about TS porn, period.

I can't "prove" anything to you with stats or evidence, your honour, lol... But I think we both know (and feel?) that TS Porn is indeed "skewed" (to put it mildly!) in favour of portraying TS women as "interesting" and "sexy" primarily, and perhaps even exclusively, simply because they have a cock between their womanly legs, and to hell with everything else about her lol!.... And this is the case in solo as well as xxx scenes!! (auto-pilot stroke n cum on the bed.... auto-pilot stroke n cum on the rug... auto-pilot stroke n cum on the sofa... auto-pilot stroke n cum perched on the kitchen worktop lol etc etc)

It is to the great credit of grooby sites that this unimaginative dead-end-street dynamic has largely been rejected and aborted, and out of the ashes the phoenix of true TS Womanhood, in all 360 degrees of their undeniable Femininity, is now rising in all its genuinely beautiful and powerful Femme glory.

blue eyed devil

[Ms Remy M]

Think of vaginal women in xxx scenes with men... now think of the ratio of those same scenes wherein the vaginal woman dons a strap-on and fucks the hell out of the guy.

Got that? Good.

Now think of TS women in xxx scenes with men.... and now think of the ratio of those same scenes wherein the TS woman gets a hard-on and fucks the hell out of the guy.

With me? Cool.

And no, I'm not talking about specifically Grooby TS porn (even tho it's invariably my fave)... I'm talking about TS porn, period.

I can't "prove" anything to you with stats or evidence, your honour, lol... But I think we both know (and feel?) that TS Porn is indeed "skewed" (to put it mildly!) in favour of portraying TS women as "interesting" and "sexy" primarily, and perhaps even exclusively, simply because they have a cock between their womanly legs, and to hell with everything else about her lol!.... And this is the case in solo as well as xxx scenes!! (auto-pilot stroke n cum on the bed.... auto-pilot stroke n cum on the rug... auto-pilot stroke n cum on the sofa... auto-pilot stroke n cum perched on the kitchen worktop lol etc etc)

It is to the great credit of grooby sites that this unimaginative dead-end-street dynamic has largely been rejected and aborted, and out of the ashes the phoenix of true TS Womanhood, in all 360 degrees of their undeniable Femininity, is now rising in all its genuinely beautiful and powerful Femme glory.

blue eyed devil

Yes, trans porn is skewed (for better or worse) toward overly showcasing cock. I'd love to see trans women treated as women and just have the naughty bit there as dessert instead of the main entree. That is not the matter I was referring to in this thread though, so the only part that really concerns me is the gross exaggeration of trans porn being overly skewed toward showing trans women topping men, which is what I don't agree with. Perhaps, you have such a strong desire for the content that you want, that your biased and can't see things from the proper perspective.

[SHAUN]

guilty as charged lol... I confess I am bias :)

"Dessert" is exactly how I see TS she-cock, rather than starter, main course and everything else (which is pretty much how it used to be)

The thing that winds me up isn't so much TS women topping men.... it's the scenes where they take turns topping eachother!!... and if you think about it that probably leaves sub guys having to fast-forward thru much of a scene just like I do when it gets to a part I can't enjoy.... I honestly believe sites should exist to cater to these specific genres.

One other thing Remy... I know it's a different subject, but as for solo scenes featuring TS Women throughout porn, there seems to be proportionately very little attention given to "gaping" shots and other specific ass-play coverage?... ok, probably I'm biased again lol, but it does still seem that way... thankfully grooby is turning this around :)