Mindless Ramblings of The Cool Ones

Is it me or are you also kind of amazed/stunned that the most interesting convo on this site occurs in mindless ramblings and the chat box?
Its almost shockingly funny to see how staid the forum is when nobodys talking about dick n balls.

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Remy, I see your point about it being a zombie post-apoc show but at the same time its airing on AMC which has a repuation for first rate production/acting. If it were on say SYFY I could look past the red blood thing.

Can someone point out if this has been addressed already. I've watched every episode but I haven't followed the comic. Is this curse/disease just carried in humans? Can animals be affected?

In an attempt to move the awesome convo from the temporary ChatBox, I wanted to pose a question.

During the zombie apocalypse do you:

- Hunker down, staying home hoping that rescue will come to you?

- Grab your "Go bag" and leave town? If so, to where?

- Off yourself, choosing to go out your way versus as living lunch meat?

- Become a devote religious person, hoping your God will save you?

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Originally Posted by raheme

Is it me or are you also kind of amazed/stunned that the most interesting convo on this site occurs in mindless ramblings and the chat box?
Its almost shockingly funny to see how staid the forum is when nobodys talking about dick n balls.

Anyway

Remy, I see your point about it being a zombie post-apoc show but at the same time its airing on AMC which has a repuation for first rate production/acting. If it were on say SYFY I could look past the red blood thing.

Can someone point out if this has been addressed already. I've watched every episode but I haven't followed the comic. Is this curse/disease just carried in humans? Can animals be affected?

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Exactly why I created this thread, though occasionally someone will create a decent thought provoking thread. Most of it is relegated to the obsessions of trans and their body parts. Which is fine, this is a porn site forum, but leaves a lot to be desired for any real conversations outside of cum, cock, ass, tits. I've been pondering giving HA another shot, being that I spend considerable time looking over Amber shoulder whilst she visits it, and certainly seems like some interesting stuff goes on there aside from a lot of bs.

I agree, an explanation would be nice with regards to the level of blood flow in the cranium. I would say that the blood collected within the brains blood/brain barrier is just sitting there pooling with the decaying flesh within, so that's what we are witnessing. That level of color should vary depending on how 'freshly' dead a person is, along with the ambulatory factor of the 'Walkers'.

Yes, it is just humans, it hasn't gained the ability to jump to other species. Which gives credence, in my opinion, that it is more super-natural based than epidemic. Again, if you die from natural causes, having nothing to do with zombies, if your brain is undamaged, you will rise a zombie.

If you still have the VHS tapes can I take those off your hands? I still have a VCR here. o _o That is, if you're looking to part with them. There are times where I'll watch a censored movie just to laugh at how they try to clean up the words. Watching Next Friday was somehow a lot more hilarious when everyone is being called " Motherlover. "

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

If you still have the VHS tapes can I take those off your hands? I still have a VCR here. o _o That is, if you're looking to part with them. There are times where I'll watch a censored movie just to laugh at how they try to clean up the words. Watching Next Friday was somehow a lot more hilarious when everyone is being called " Motherlover. "

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In storage, there lies boxes, boxes filled to the brim with archaic VHS tapes, whose film I would not be surprise has begun to deteriorate. ;)

Wouldn't be a bad idea to grab those before they all go to shit. :D

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

Wouldn't be a bad idea to grab those before they all go to shit. :D

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Meh, I don't much care to be honest. I do not own a VCR and prefer everything in digital format anyway. Much easier to carry around a couple external hard-drives opposed to thousands of VHS tapes. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

In an attempt to move the awesome convo from the temporary ChatBox, I wanted to pose a question.

During the zombie apocalypse do you:

- Hunker down, staying home hoping that rescue will come to you?

- Grab your "Go bag" and leave town? If so, to where?

- Off yourself, choosing to go out your way versus as living lunch meat?

- Become a devote religious person, hoping your God will save you?

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How the hell did I miss this post and the two near it? o _o

Anyways, my friends and I already have a plan to head north in the event of a zombie apocalypse. Using whatever means we have to in order to get there...

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

How the hell did I miss this post and the two near it? o _o

Anyways, my friends and I already have a plan to head north in the event of a zombie apocalypse. Using whatever means we have to in order to get there...

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Pretty much said what I'm thinking. I've never seen a zombie outbreak in freezing weather. I'm going north with my inuit brethern.

Exactly. Without a blood flow there's nothing to keep them warm, and thus nothing to keep them from freezing. Also, less people to the north, meaning, less zombies over all.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

Exactly. Without a blood flow there's nothing to keep them warm, and thus nothing to keep them from freezing. Also, less people to the north, meaning, less zombies over all.

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Only problem I can see with our line of thought on this is that we are applying scientific facts to what has been called a biblical/religous curse. Maybe the cold doesn't affect them...we really don't know since the scope of the world they are in is so small. Its hyper local on a town by town basis, not really any mention of how the plague has hit other countries. We also haven't been through winter yet.

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Originally Posted by raheme

Only problem I can see with our line of thought on this is that we are applying scientific facts to what has been called a biblical/religous curse. Maybe the cold doesn't affect them...we really don't know since the scope of the world they are in is so small. Its hyper local on a town by town basis, not really any mention of how the plague has hit other countries. We also haven't been through winter yet.

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Granted, but the major point of less zombies is still valid though.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

Granted, but the major point of less zombies is still valid though.

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Hell in that regard id head to the dakotas...but that's the catch, its takes a special type to survive in that climate with no modern conveinences. Also less population = less food and gas supply, nothing to scavenge off, which has been their m.o. thus far. There's only one hunter in the group.

Honestly I think the best place to go would be Canada. It might sound crazy but if you can actually meet up with a lumberjack or woodsman who hasn't gone insane and is actually willing to help then you're in really good hands. Of course I wouldn't know exactly where to go but, anywhere is better than being in NYC during a zombie apocalypse...

So, I bottom for a guy for the first time ever, good times lol :D

..............The... I.... * runs away crying *

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG9IHqwHYgI[/ame]

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

..............The... I.... * runs away crying *

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You are hilarious cosmic, simply hilarious

I'm glad my pain amuses you! Would you like my heart? Fresh from my chest whilst it still beats! if anyone needs me I'll be out on the ledge of a roof... writing poetry in the rain...

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

I'm glad my pain amuses you! Would you like my heart? Fresh from my chest whilst it still beats! if anyone needs me I'll be out on the ledge of a roof... writing poetry in the rain...

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Yes, yes I would like that. I've always wanted to try long-pork you know :p you may want to wait until after the Walking Dead though.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

Yes, yes I would like that. I've always wanted to try long-pork you know :p you may want to wait until after the Walking Dead though.

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You better hope I never master the turtle style of fighting. - _-

Actually... everyone better hope that.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

You better hope I never master the turtle style of fighting. - _-

Actually... everyone better hope that.

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Not familiar with that, but having owned some turtles, I'm picturing you, laying on your back with teeth snapping, arms and legs flaying about. :p

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

Not familiar with that, but having owned some turtles, I'm picturing you, laying on your back with teeth snapping, arms and legs flaying about. :p

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Any imagining you might be doing of me on my back should certainly involve you in front of me. :P

That aside, as soon as someone said " I'm going to go find Dale. " ...Yep... Saw that coming.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

Any imagining you might be doing of me on my back should certainly involve you in front of me. :P

That aside, as soon as someone said " I'm going to go find Dale. " ...Yep... Saw that coming.

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Ha, you are too much

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

Ha, you are too much

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I am exactly the right amount.


Of awesome.

OK...so No ONE is gonna talk about Ol' Dale getting torn in two last night? ;)

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Originally Posted by raheme

OK...so No ONE is gonna talk about Ol' Dale getting torn in two last night? ;)

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Haha let me wake up first geesh lol just kidding. This was a very interesting episode, in that Amber and I debated at length over the decision of what to do with Randall.

Now, for the record, I actually agree with her that Randall should be some how or another sent away, but not killed out right. However; loving to take up the devils advocate from time to time, I did bring up the very real fact that Randall did try to kill Rick and the others already. Randall claims to be a nice guy, but anyone being tortured will say anything the can to make the pain stop. For many reasons, Randall poses a threat to Ricks merry band of survivors and deciding what to do with him is an important step, because just letting Randall live to regroup with his friends and come back to Hershell's farm to take it over is a likely scenario.

Dale, you will be missed. Clearly one of the most humane people on the show, I didn't expect the ending that occurred. It really was a sad moment, especially considering how drawn out and traumatic it was. Dale didn't deserve that, the one person who was fighting for 'life' get's gutted out by a fucking walker. It kind of goes to show that Life is not Fair, and to me only brought back to focus how just letting Randall go, as the Swamp Walker was let go (intentional or not) can seriously come back to bite them in the ass.

I would've done away with Randall from the start. Or just left him there stuck to that fence. Someone shooting at me is not my problem once they stop doing that.

As for Dale, truth be told as soon as I heard someone say " I'm gonna go look for Dale. " I knew that was it for him. Frankly he was too much of an idealist in a world where reality is shit. In times like that you either do what you have to in order to survive, or you die.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

I would've done away with Randall from the start. Or just left him there stuck to that fence. Someone shooting at me is not my problem once they stop doing that.

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In the heat of the moment, right after the fire fight, I would have been 'ok' with Randall dying. After all, he was just trying to take the life of me and mine. Soon as Rick wanted to save him though, I most likely would have been with him and wanted to save him as well. Just the type of person I am.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

As for Dale, truth be told as soon as I heard someone say " I'm gonna go look for Dale. " I knew that was it for him. Frankly he was too much of an idealist in a world where reality is shit. In times like that you either do what you have to in order to survive, or you die.

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On one hand, I agree that times have changed and 'some' concessions need to be made. However; at the end of the day, I would have stood with Dale and could not have just killed someone in cold blood. So much so, I would have volunteered to take Randall one state over and leave him to fend for himself. There are many unknowns with Randall, but killing him is not the only solution to resolving the issue.

Very valid points.

My opinion: they should have left randall impaled on the fence as walker food.

There's no getting over the fact that he tried to kill you. He had mallicous intent!
Inviting him to live with the group is like inviting a rapist to babysit your kids.

Dale had to die. There's no room for 'humane' decisions in a dying, lawless world. He didn't deserve the death that he got but, the irony of his death proves why he had to go. Turn the other cheek and get bit in the ass.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

Haha let me wake up first geesh lol just kidding. This was a very interesting episode, in that Amber and I debated at length over the decision of what to do with Randall.

Now, for the record, I actually agree with her that Randall should be some how or another sent away, but not killed out right. However; loving to take up the devils advocate from time to time, I did bring up the very real fact that Randall did try to kill Rick and the others already. Randall claims to be a nice guy, but anyone being tortured will say anything the can to make the pain stop. For many reasons, Randall poses a threat to Ricks merry band of survivors and deciding what to do with him is an important step, because just letting Randall live to regroup with his friends and come back to Hershell's farm to take it over is a likely scenario.

Dale, you will be missed. Clearly one of the most humane people on the show, I didn't expect the ending that occurred. It really was a sad moment, especially considering how drawn out and traumatic it was. Dale didn't deserve that, the one person who was fighting for 'life' get's gutted out by a fucking walker. It kind of goes to show that Life is not Fair, and to me only brought back to focus how just letting Randall go, as the Swamp Walker was let go (intentional or not) can seriously come back to bite them in the ass.

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Originally Posted by raheme

Very valid points.

My opinion: they should have left randall impaled on the fence as walker food.

There's no getting over the fact that he tried to kill you. He had mallicous intent!
Inviting him to live with the group is like inviting a rapist to babysit your kids.

Dale had to die. There's no room for 'humane' decisions in a dying, lawless world. He didn't deserve the death that he got but, the irony of his death proves why he had to go. Turn the other cheek and get bit in the ass.

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I disagree with Dale having to die and with there being no place for 'humane'. In a world reduced to lawless behavior, the group of survivor that maintain civility is going to be the safest option. Imagine being in a group of 'Shane' personalities where you may become walker bait if he decides he doesn't like you anymore whilst out foraging. Fucking insane place it would become real quickly when you might get killed over any disagreement, or if you are precieved as being weak.

If you were in a group where everyone was like Shane, it's pretty likely you wouldn't end up in a situation where you might get sacrificed. Since people would stop making extremely poor decisions when it comes to dealing with dangerous elements.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

I disagree with Dale having to die and with there being no place for 'humane'. In a world reduced to lawless behavior, the group of survivor that maintain civility is going to be the safest option. Imagine being in a group of 'Shane' personalities where you may become walker bait if he decides he doesn't like you anymore whilst out foraging. Fucking insane place it would become real quickly when you might get killed over any disagreement, or if you are precieved as being weak.

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Welcome to gang culture...piranahs...any sing of weakness and your pack turns on you. Weakest link theory.

Not saying that there won't be rules in a lawless world but your level of compassion and civility is different.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

If you were in a group where everyone was like Shane, it's pretty likely you wouldn't end up in a situation where you might get sacrificed. Since people would stop making extremely poor decisions when it comes to dealing with dangerous elements.

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Agreed. All one needs to do is look at current prison culture. There are rules and then there are RULES. Weaker individuals either die or serve in submissive roles.

In a world where anyone may try to rape and kill me or my family, I'm not taking any chances, plain and simple. I've seen OZ, rape is clearly unpleasant.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

In a world where anyone may try to rape and kill me or my family, I'm not taking any chances, plain and simple. I've seen OZ, rape is clearly unpleasant.

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Cosmic we can take it a step further...check out the movie 'the road'. In a true apocolypse, where there is rule of law, a shortage of food, and water, rape is the least of your worries. You won't have to worry about zombies eating you as weak and desperate men will start to canibalize one another for food to fufill basic human needs.

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Originally Posted by raheme

Cosmic we can take it a step further...check out the movie 'the road'. In a true apocolypse, where there is rule of law, a shortage of food, and water, rape is the least of your worries. You won't have to worry about zombies eating you as weak and desperate men will start to canibalize one another for food to fufill basic human needs.

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That actually came up in the comic as well. Since it clearly isn't about to be a spoiler. Dale got caught by a group of cannibals. What they didn't know however was that he had been bitten and was " tainted meat. "

But yeah, food, water, that's always a big issue in a post apocalyptic world. Though water is usually much more of an issue in the event of a nuclear holocaust than a zombie out break.

Max Max is a pretty good example.

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Originally Posted by raheme

Welcome to gang culture...piranahs...any sing of weakness and your pack turns on you. Weakest link theory.

Not saying that there won't be rules in a lawless world but your level of compassion and civility is different.

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Originally Posted by raheme

Agreed. All one needs to do is look at current prison culture. There are rules and then there are RULES. Weaker individuals either die or serve in submissive roles.

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I hear what you two are saying, but those are examples of particular subsets of society. Particularly which don't tend to care anyway about things like compassion for life, trying to truly do things to better themselves, and just in general doing things the right way.

I do agree, basic provisions would be a huge concern. Luckily, I'm smarter than the average bear. You need to sterilize water, grab plenty of iodine tablets or droplets, give it about 30mins and it's drinkable.

Another option, find cave and/or underground source of water, particularly that passes through limestone. It will have a strong mineral taste like all hell, but that's a natural purifier. Still would suggest boiling do to natural bacteria and such that exist in caves.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

I hear what you two are saying, but those are examples of particular subsets of society. Particularly which don't tend to care anyway about things like compassion for life, trying to truly do things to better themselves, and just in general doing things the right way.

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Even the average person can fall into that state of mind in a do or die situation. You never know what to expect from a person once the rules no longer apply. Take away the laws for one day and see just how many people become murderers, rapists, and thieves. People you thought would never do such things, maybe even people you know and trust. These are the situations that truly define a person. And you can never know just who they are until they are in them.