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am i the only one bothered by Carl just randomly appearing like a ghost child at the most inopportune times? like where the fuck is his moms? this little bastard just happens to show up after his dad kills shane. the week before that he shows up just when dad's about to kill Randall. Lori needs her ass beat asap lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ms Remy M
Part of me was hoping Lori would go before Shane. And even now that Shane's gone... I still hope that. Where's this bitch get off telling Andrea she should be in the kitchen? Even though I make jokes about that constantly, coming from her it's just annoying. - _-
sociopath - they are in a world with no law or order. sociopath's only exist in society's where "normal" is peaceful.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
murderer - perhaps, or some would say hero. carl would surely be dead by now if it were not for him. lori too.
rapist - that's debatable. very debatable. lori strung that man along. fucking him good and plenty until her hubby comes stumbling back in.
Does seem like bad parenting that Lori is never aware of Carl's whereabouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by raheme
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Meanwhile she's got no damn problem sticking her nose in other people's business. Where it is very much not needed... I hate her...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ms Remy M
Yeah, Lori was going a bit 'entitled' in her rant toward Andrea. I will say that the distribution of duties is important. Whether you choose to stand guard or maintain essences of civility by cleaning and cooking it all helps to keep people sane and feeling like there is some sense of normalcy.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
Just saying women should be in the kitchen is very dangerous though. For example, shit hits the fan and the women are needed to take up arms, you want them trained and knowing what they are doing with firearms not worrying about getting their nail broken.
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Rape is never debatable.when a woman tells you no than that means no.it doesn't matter what you had and the woman had before.if she says no and you decide to take it any way it's rape.no shades of gray.Quote:
Originally Posted by raheme
there is nothing heroic about trying to kill your best friend because you covet his wife and son.
Sociopathy is a mental/emotional disorder.has nothing to do with societal constructs.that's like saying good health and diseases cease to exist
In a world without law and order, you can still be a sociopath, which is very dangerous in that you would lack a sense of moral responsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by raheme
murderer is a funny subject, I'm a pacifist at heart and am even against the death penalty, and trophy hunting. If it's not in self defense I just don't agree with killing someone. After looking up the term murderer, yeah Shane was certainly that, despite the fact that he 'saved' Lori and Carl. The death of Otis can be perceived as nothing more than a revenge killing.
Shane being a rapist is not debatable. A person says no, that's the end of it. All that transpired before is irrelevant
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lol Yeah, she seems to be developing a knack for judging others.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
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Maybe he was a sociopath. But the fact of the matter is, he was focused on keeping everyone safe. Not just a way of living that isn't going to cut it anymore. People seem to over look that he wasn't acting out of any misguided sense of power, but for the over all good of the people he was looking after.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ms Remy M
I'd hardly say killing Otis was for revenge. That was much more of a sacrifice than anything. Not saying it was right. But I'd probably do it too. It's you or me. Or rather, it's you.
I missed this rape everyone keeps talking about...
And how do you justify him trying to kill Rick?Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
I don't. I'm with him up until that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
Therefore murdererQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
I never said he wasn't one... I just agreed with why he did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
Yeah, but it's the execution that's important. For example, America can keep our country safe by dropping nuclear bombs on every other country that isn't strictly aligned with us. However; seeking diplomatic avenues allows each country to change and possibly become an ally as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
Killing Otis was strictly revenge, they were less than 50 yards from the car. They could have kept humping it the way they were doing, and while the zombies would have been right behind them when they got to the car vehicles are made with safety glass that isn't just going to instantly break. They could have drove over the lot of em and kept it moving. No, Shane was feeling vindictive over Carl being shot by this man and saw a way to make his own getaway that much easier, by making Otis zombie bait, which ultimately was unnecessary.
If I recall correctly the 'rape' didn't actually happen, but it was damned close (she was screaming and beating at him to stop) and that's bad enough, because it shows that the potential was there for Shane to once again go over the edge even with a person he claims he 'loves'.
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Yes that's all well and good, but we're not talking about a world where diplomacy is a viable option. Much less with people who just tried to kill you. Diplomacy exists today because people are much more aware that not everyone is trying to rape you, kill you and take your food. That's why it didn't exist millions of years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ms Remy M
You're speculating here. It's not as if Shane gave any indication that he was doing it for revenge. And even if they could have limped all the way back to the car, the zombies were gaining ground. Sure he could've taken the risk, or, he could give them a bigger meal. If he wanted to kill Otis for revenge, he wouldn't have needed to wait until they were both about to die for it to happen. He could've put one in his head, grabbed his shit and moved along smoothly.
Not really, you could see the disgust and intent for malice on Shane face the entire episode. He needed Otis, so has to acquire the items they went to achieve and once done, well Otis was done for.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
Shane always looks like that... Literally always. Think back... When did he ever look like he didn't wanna slap the taste out of someone's mouth and give'em a Popeyes biscuit so they could confirm it was lost? Again, you're working on pure speculation here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ms Remy M
Everyone keeps over looking the attempted murder of Rick....dude is not a good person period.by trying to kill and rape people in his camp he has already proven himself to be a liability.it's like great...the Walkers won't get me but watch out for ShaunQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
to me that's what makes the show great. its' the human element vs the zombie factor. just because the lion's the king of the jungle doesn't mean you overlook hyena's.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
I never over looked that. I said I was with him up until that point. Even though I understand his reason for doing it. ( As wrong as he is about Rick, so very, very wrong. ) Besides for all the talk of Shane, there isn't a whole lot they could do about him. Aside from doing exactly what Shane would do. So uh, ultimately, Shane's way of thinking would've been prevalent.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsamberskyi
Sans the rape.
Good point there, and also why I really enjoy the show. All the more reason to have good people around you that truly care about your wellbeing. so it looks like the stay at the farm has come to an end. I did think Rick glossing over Carl part in Dales death was wrong. That boy needs to really understand the consequences of his action (or lack there of). Peoples lives are always at stake, so many simple accidents can end in death, plus the little dude is a thief.so not kosher going through Daryl stuff taking his gun as if he gets free reign over things.Quote:
Originally Posted by raheme
Argh! Season finale tonight... Now I'll have nothing to watch on Sundays...
Bah... now I have to wait until fall to see the next season... Stop! Coma time!
What an awesome fucking episode! Zombies out the ass, people getting ate the hell up, andrea getting left behind, rick joining the dark side, lori showing herself to be the evil twisted bitch she is (I told u she was playing both of them Amber!), and MICHONE!Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
Rick is gonna make one nasty s.o.b. if you cross him. He basically just proved Shane right. Can't lead by democracy. Poor Shane.
Hooded Michone with the two chained zombie slaves was just about as good as tv gets!
Hershel was gettin' busy with that shot gun. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by raheme
What's that broad with the short hair's name? That bitch was gettin' on every one of my nerves. When you can't contribute a god damn thing you should shut up. Tryin' to turn Daryl against Rick. Like they haven't been watching each other's asses. I swear the only woman in that group not doing something stupid or fucked up at all times is Andrea.
And on that note, Michonne... * Home Simpson drool *
Personally, if I were Rick, I'd have let every last one of'em go right where they want, and watched out for myself. People turn on you at the drop of a hat, because you didn't give them information THAT THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH. Even Glenn of all people... Rick looked like he wanted to slap the taste out of his mouth.
Alright... I'm done. >_>
Fantastic fucking episode, great way to end the season. While I can hardly wait for the next season, this finale didn't leave me feeling like things are left unanswered which will make the wait slightly more bearable. So many great zombies this episode, I almost felt like I watched a full length zombie movie, with all the undead slaughtering.Quote:
Originally Posted by raheme
At first I thought it was fucked, seeing Andrea having to fend for herself against the ever present walkers. That girl truly is a survivor though, and with Michonne stepping in to save her with her trusty Katana... Drool worthy indeed Cosmic ;) She will be a fantastic addition to the group, and adding a strong black female to the cast gets a resounding "Hooray" from me. Michonne is my favorite character in this series by far, and the best at 'surviving'.
I was a bit let down hearing Rick utter those words about "democracy". Alas, there does need to be a clear and present leader to take the people to safety. I'm not sure that's proving Shane right exactly, as Rick will still likely take peoples (or inanimate objects :p ) views into his own decisions. Just the whole bickering and acting like leading by community when they all want something a little different wont actually get any of them anywhere.
Lori, Lori, Lori, you showed your ass this episode. On the one hand I'm trying to take things into consideration from her point of view. She's had a couple 'bombs' dropped on her this episode, from hearing of her real 'baby daddy' death (Yep, I think Shane was the pappi), to the fact that Carl actually put Shane down and at the end of the day Carl looked up to Shane, to the realization that they are all 'infected' which would include the child she's hoping to bring into the world. lol *Take a second and imagine her trying to abort and the monstrosity that would be trying to claw it's way out of her a la Dawn of the Dead.* She is kind of devious because thinking back, she had talks with both Shane and Rick and sort of played the two against each other. Practically even told Rick to "do something" about Shane to Rick.
Now, I can forgive everyone's anger at Rick for not telling them the news he got from the CDC. He's had months to get over that news, they will too with some time. I don't want to believe that Lori's anger toward Rick was solely on account of Shane death, I think it's a bit of everything including once again her piss poor mothering skills and inability to keep track of Carl for any length of time whatsoever. She really has some nerve going off on Andrea, when she can't maintain her one real responsibility at all.
All in all, everyone's emotions and adrenaline is running stupid high so people acting out a bit is to be expected and Rick is handling that admirably. They are starting to really let us see that Rick will change (grow dark?) with this 'New World' but still try to maintain as much of the past 'law and order' as possible.
T-Dogg, you got more than 30 seconds screen time this episode lol
I'm really excited for the events which will surely unfold next season, dark times are ahead. Zombies are such a minor enemy compared to those with beating hearts.
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Indeed! I was rooting for the old man doing his thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
I agree, I was giving her the evil eye and congratulating Daryl for standing his ground and siding with Rick. She's a regular snake in the grass calling Daryl Rick's "henchman". Andrea has really pulled herself together once she decided she wanted to live since season 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
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Opps, I also forgot all about Jimmy this whole season and then forgot to mention in the post lol Oh well, your death saved Rick and Carl
Jimmmmyyyy?
I know right, the guy who died in the RV trying to save Rick and Carl from the burning barn and zombies. I think he got a total of 60 seconds of screen time the whole season. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler
I had absolutely no idea who that guy was or where he came from. I was absolutely baffled.
Anyone watching this show? Last night was the season premier of the second season on HBO.
I seriously don't understand how people watch that Showtime program (yeah I know it's name and it's lack of depth) but don't watch Game Of Thrones which is clearly a superior program though there may be less flashes of wanton sex which Showtime uses to keep the guys focused when not engaging in gladiatorial combat.
Game of Thrones on the other hand, uses smart, witty, and engaging dialogue that stokes intrigue, pulls you into their world, and makes you develop feelings (good or bad) for it's many characters. There is lots of bloody combat, which generally serves as a purpose of moving the story along and not just for the sake of graphic violence. There is a growing fantasy element, with dragons (hooray), magic, and wolf familiars. Overall, this is the show to be watching and if you haven't seen the first season, it is well worth the watch. Trust me, there is one particular episode that will make you cringe at the thought of owning a "Golden Crowne".
As someone who read the 1st 3 novels of "Song of fire and ice" based on how great the first season of Game of thrones was, I'm quite disappointed with how season 2 has left out or changed so many important parts of "A clash of Kings". Granted it must be hard to put 1100 pages of story into a 10 episode season. It still left me feeling disappointed with a lot of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ms Remy M
And with "A feast for crows" arguably being the best of the 3. (books 4 and 5 have been plagued with bad reviews) I can only imagine how much they'll divert from that book as well. Its a shame to because I only bought the 1st four books on the strength of fans crediting HBO for following book one so closely. A lot of these changes were a big disservice to the show IMO.
This is why I don't read the Sookie Stackhouse novels, since odds are that I won't like True Blood series because of how far they've strayed from the source material.
It's awesome enough as is.
I haven't read any of the books myself, and probably wont until the show is completely finished. That way I can appreciate the two separate mediums independently. I literally have nothing bad to say about the Game of Thrones as a HBO show aside from "Longer Seasons"!! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Indy24
Hooray! True Blood is back. I was so giddy the episode came on that I enjoyed it immensely. However; after a day to process the events, it did seem like the entire episode was devoted to dealing with all the dead bodies from the previous season finale. I'm psyched that Tara is a vamp now and sort of feel like Tara and Lafayette have the most character development from first season to now. I'm starting to wonder if the show is getting too big, in that there are constantly characters vying for screen time. I really hope this season is able to maintain some focus and advance the story in a meaningful way. While this is the first season without Alan Ball, it will be interesting to see where things go, gosh I really do love this show. ;)
Pfft... more like Poo Blood. = ___=
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So... no one comes in here anymore huh? Well... alright... I claim these lands as my own.
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