Long Term Effects of Hormones

Here is a link about successful Post Op TS some women well into their 40's are on this site. I always stayed away from convos like this because of the stereotyping, but I felt its time to reply. I know quite a few professional Ts women doing well one in particular on the site Dr.Stephanie Langhoff Chief Scientist for NASA.

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conw...successes.html

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Originally Posted by jaysands

Man, I really hate that it actually comes to that, but i'm a realist, and i truly understand thats how it usually ends up....Sad part is that, we love these women because they turn us on, but after they stop turning us on, they end up in exile, like peggy said...couple that with someone with no skills, and not being accepted by society, really makes for a lonley life in the end, and that's what' kinda messed up....I hope the next generation figures this shit out and can ultimately end up succsessful....

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I joke with some of the girls and tell them that I am the "ghost of your future".

http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/chr...mas-future.jpg

But actually my "future's so bright, I gotta wear sunglasses". :cool:

Yeah we live in a disposable society, we want thhe latest, hot new thing.

But for me, growing older has been great, I love my life and where it's at.

My saving grace was that I knew that one day I would be older and I planned
accordingly.

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Originally Posted by kilakali

Here is a link about successful Post Op TS some women well into their 40's are on this site. I always stayed away from convos like this because of the stereotyping, but I felt its time to reply. I know quite a few professional Ts women doing well one in particular on the site Dr.Stephanie Langhoff Chief Scientist for NASA.

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conw...successes.html

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I am a huge fan of Dr. Lynn Conway and the work that she does in promoting
positive images and information about transwoman.

Though one presence is glaringly absent from those pages of TS Women's
Successes and the Links and Photos, and that is the presence of Black
transwomen.

And by no means do I feel that Dr. Conway is responsible for this, but rather
it is we, the women of African descent who are accountable for this.

As Monica Roberts states in a post on her site:

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The fact that we don't have at present a large organized community like our white counterparts and face more negativity if we openly transition, we gravitate more toward the stealth path.

But in the fifty plus years since Christine Jorgensen's very public transition, we African-American transpeople have come to painfully realize that having a history to pass down and role models are important elements of the process as well.

Our images have been negatively distorted by too many transwomen taking the escort and female illusionist path in the mistaken belief it's the only way they can make money as a transperson. We have African American transwomen succeeding in various fields such as IT, teaching, modeling and various other fields just to name a few that I'm aware of. The problem is that because these people are stealth transwomen the WORLD, our people and our fellow transpeeps don't know that.

http://transgriot.blogspot.com/2007/...th-vs-out.html

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Kimberli is black. I know she is the only one on there, but hey at least there is a black TS to inspire others.

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conw.../Kimberli.html

This thread is hilarious to me shoot whoever started it:p

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Originally Posted by carmencream

This thread is hilarious to me shoot whoever started it:p

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Youre satirical humor is not funny at all...I've noticed a couple of other posts from u and they seem to follow the same pattern---Ignorance....Everyone who posted in the thread (except u), made some thought provoking and intelligent points, but u (as always) don't get it...And you're a T-girl....Obviously, there's a little more going on that's got u so wound up, hope u get that fixed real soon so u can then join the ranks of adults....

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Originally Posted by kilakali

Kimberli is black. I know she is the only one on there, but hey at least there is a black TS to inspire others.

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conw.../Kimberli.html

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I am aware of Kimberli, indeed I have followed Dr. Conway's site and work
for years. I am also a member of another forum with Kimberli.

The point that Monica and I make is that when you pass, you often take the
path of least resistance, much like people of color did who could pass as white
during the Jim Crow era.

Thus this leaves behind very few role models, or those that can mentor up and
coming transwomen of color.

And I will admit that I am guilty to a certain extent of that as well by living
stealth. Though as we are aware there are degrees of stealth.

There's "stealth" where acquaintances, work colleagues and even a circle of
friends are unaware of your herstory.

And then there's "deep stealth", where you totally live your life as a woman
and very close friends and even your husband or significant other are
unaware that you were a transwoman.

One designation that Dr. Conway made that I found particularly interesting is
to be "virtually out" or "VO". This would be where you are out only on the web,
and even there your true identity may not be known.

Stealth

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2...h20fighter.jpg

Are you flying under the radar?

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2...lthcurious.jpg

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Originally Posted by jaysands

Youre satirical humor is not funny at all...I've noticed a couple of other posts from u and they seem to follow the same pattern---Ignorance....Everyone who posted in the thread (except u), made some thought provoking and intelligent points, but u (as always) don't get it...And you're a T-girl....Obviously, there's a little more going on that's got u so wound up, hope u get that fixed real soon so u can then join the ranks of adults....

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Ok if you feel I'm ignorant more power to you:cool:

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

Dirty,

it's a sign of the times fam. I hate to say it but most of these girls are not that bright. I mean, they are smart enough to get money now, but aren't really smart enough to maintain money for after the tricks stop calling and logging into their websites.

Sadly, the real problem is these girls are gonna end up like most dope boys I know. I was one of them but I got out and did something with my money. Far too many of them will end up ass out. Didn't cash they chips in when they had the opportunity to. They go through their entire 20's and early 30's having gained no real job experience, no trade, no college...nothing to build on a resume. You find yourself at 35, still in the game, not realizing that the game has passed you by and you have no options. Now you're just another pawn, another has been, another customer.

Sorry for the off topic tangent...shit just gets under my skin because I have seen a few bright ones fall victim to the "get money now" ideology.

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Very thought provoking to compare it to the dope boy craze. You hit it right on the head IMO.