why no love for the post ops

More like 4-6 post op sites, but mostly Brasilian and Asian, so I get your point. Shemale Yum has a section dedicated to Post-Ops and I certainly am for seeing more on Black Tgirls as we've only had one Post Op model on this site. I think it's really fucked up that guys go 'hog wild' for girls with not a single ounce of breast tissue (no offense to you ladies), but if a girl can't get erect or is post op people don't want to see them. We should celebrate the trans who complete their journey, especially in light of the many that go forever with little to no changes. We should appreciate the beauty of trans even if they can't get aroused because they are following their hormone regiment and aren't as rock hard as some may want them to be.

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I personally love when uncut girls are soft. I find them so cute. >_>;;;

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I think it's really fucked up that guys go 'hog wild' for girls with not a single ounce of breast tissue (no offense to you ladies), but if a girl can't get erect or is post op people don't want to see them.We should celebrate the trans who complete their journey, especially in light of the many that go forever with little to no changes. We should appreciate the beauty of trans even if they can't get aroused because they are following their hormone regiment and aren't as rock hard as some may want them to be.

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All of that sounds nice, but remember that porn viewers think with their dicks, not heads, when deciding what they want to see. As much as TS like to think everyone watches (or should watch) TS porn just for the femininity, reality says that this obviously isn't the case. Most viewers prefer full functionality, just as I'm sure the girls prefer their men to have working parts as well.

Celebrate and appreciate the journey? For the girl this is a journey, but for the viewer this is only jack off material. That is very fucked up, but selfishness is a natural human tendency.

As for the OP, I agree there should be more PO material out there. I personally don't think TS lose hotness with SRS. They lose a sex organ, but get a little more "naughty" since the gender bending is pushed to another level where the line between male and female gets even more blurry.

Unfortunately, I've only seen a couple hot PO girls, only one was hot, candy from this site.

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All of that sounds nice, but remember that porn viewers think with their dicks, not heads, when deciding what they want to see. As much as TS like to think everyone watches (or should watch) TS porn just for the femininity, reality says that this obviously isn't the case. Most viewers prefer full functionality, just as I'm sure the girls prefer their men to have working parts as well.

Celebrate and appreciate the journey? For the girl this is a journey, but for the viewer this is only jack off material. That is very fucked up, but selfishness is a natural human tendency.

As for the OP, I agree there should be more PO material out there. I personally don't think TS lose hotness with SRS. They lose a sex organ, but get a little more "naughty" since the gender bending is pushed to another level where the line between male and female gets even more blurry.

Unfortunately, I've only seen a couple hot PO girls, only one was hot, candy from this site.

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I know what you are getting at, but there has been too many examples to prove that full functionality isn't really key. If the model is pretty, and has her performance on lock (taking dick like a champ!) and the marketing is behind her than she will be just as popular as any other model.

I absolutely do not believe that selfishness is a natural human tendency. It is a learned trait that we pick up, and with this capitalist society, it's fostered from an early age. Humanity would have died out long ago if we were selfish and didn't work together for the common good, during the Earths near extinction level events.

It's a journey for many viewers as well, ask any fan of Sexxy Jade, Sheeba, etc which is to say the models whose transitional steps has been captured through the eyes of the porn producers lens.

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It is no no surprise given the nature of the forum that the men are primarily concerned with the functionality of the models and escorts. From a number of responses I am getting the inference that the men feel that the majority of transwomen are engaged in the sex trade, and that they would continue to do so after their surgery.

The percentage of women engaged in the sex trade is not germane to this particular topic, so I shall not dwell on it, other than to say that there is a very high percentage of transwomen not involved in the industry. And I am not merely referring to the mid-life crisis, white transwoman who takes her 401K or re-mortgages her home, and jets off to Thailand, and returns with a neo-vagina.

Rather I am going to speak about the women whose goal was to assimilate legally, socially, occupationally, and functionally into all aspects of society, and most likely will live in stealth.

Many women from the day they start their transition are also planning for life post transition. They are furthering their education, garnering marketable skills, to ensure a comfortable and viable standard of living.

As has been pointed out if a post op who was engaged in the the sex trade pre operatively continues to attempt to work in the trans-community, she will find that her "value" has gone down to the trans-attracted men who were primarily interested in her for her penis. She could of of course "work the other side of the street" with the natal females, however at some point this too becomes less of a viable option as she begins to age out of the market.

Ideally a woman that contemplates GCS should have made preparations for her life before and after GCS. She should have the afore-mentioned marketable skills in place as there is no guarantee that just because she has a vagina she will get "wifed up", or that her life will now be worry free.

Thus a woman that has taken the correct steps and done the proper planning doesn't worry very much that there is little to no love for her in the transcommunity.

She realizes that the "trans" prefix in trans sexual / gender denotes a crossing over.

She realizes that though she may have had a trans-past, that it is just that, her past.

I was waiting for PG to say something. It's always enlightening. n _n

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I was waiting for PG to say something. It's always enlightening. n _n

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Thank you.

I remain ever vigilant.

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Something I had thought long lost... I often say logic is the witchcraft of our era... well... often since a couple of weeks ago... and whenever it's relevant.

There aren't a lot of women here who can give us the outlook of a post-op woman, so in this topic I was especially hoping you could shed some light. In all honesty I never thought to ask, perhaps because I don't have a lot of dealings with post-op women.

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Something I had thought long lost... I often say logic is the witchcraft of our era... well... often since a couple of weeks ago... and whenever it's relevant.

There aren't a lot of women here who can give us the outlook of a post-op woman, so in this topic I was especially hoping you could shed some light. In all honesty I never thought to ask, perhaps because I don't have a lot of dealings with post-op women.

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While by no means my occupation, I have done a tremendous amount of
study and research formally and informally, on transsexualism and
transgenderism.

Thus my job here and elsewhere in cyber-space is to educate, advocate,
and sometimes to agitate.

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While by no means my occupation, I have done a tremendous amount of
study and research formally and informally, on transsexualism and
transgenderism.

Thus my job here and elsewhere in cyber-space is to educate, advocate,
and sometimes to agitate.

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You're doing a bang-up job. I don't often find people I can call smarter than myself. Especially not on the internet. ( Sad part is, I don't even think I'm that smart... )

If I ever manage to muster up some questions in this addled brain of mine I'll come to you... And not just because I can't go to anyone else.