Now this is TROLLING!

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Originally Posted by seanchai

It is degrading. I've seen these before and was fairly disgusted with them at the time. This isn't how anyone should be treat. I work in this industry and I think most companies treat the models with a modicum of respect and professionalism. This is the gutter of the industry.

These "models" have came in for an interview, for whatever reasons wanting to work in the adult industry and to have degrading insults thrown in their face. Who cares what their IQ level is or how much research they've done on this industry. It's basic lack of respect. This shows the level of ignorance of the three of you who are defending it and the level of how you must look at all women.

Very fucking poor.

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Crusade all you like, but as I said this is a specific niche in porn. Since the site started nothing about it has changed. So if thley're still going in for interviews for this site knowing full well what they're getting themselves into they have only themselves to blame. You don't see me walking into Klan meetings and then complaining about why there's a noose around my neck.

And I might add, some people enjoy being treated this way. So the ignorance is really coming from you assuming that everyone lives and thinks the way you do or believe they should. After all last I checked there were people who said porn in general was degrading. Are you gonna stop producing it because they say so? Sometimes I love the bullshit double standards you people like to throw around. I'm gonna go have me some spaghetti.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Did you even watch it? This has got nothing to do with placing blame. They delibrately set out to degrade, insult and humiliate people. It's got nothing to do with porn or escorting so stop trying to muddy the waters.

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yes i have watched it...have YOU? if so then you'd see that many of the girls COME BACK A SECOND TIME to do the same shit...not too mention, many of the already established girls in the industry (cherokee, jada fire, etc) have done scenes...and in the beginning of the video, they have ALL said they knew what they were getting in to...so that throws your 'they're being exploited cuz they don't know what's going on' theory right of out the damn window...

secondly, just in case you didn't know, ANY kind of porn is viewed as degrading and exploitation by much of society...so by definition, YOU SIR are just as guilty as the gentlemen producing ghetto gaggers...but i bet you aren't gonna shut down all of your sites are you...quite the contrary, you're just gonna sit back and keep getting rich from it...

and when i spoke of placing blame, i meant no one is forcing these girls to do anything...they can always get the fuck up and leave (with if you've actually watched and researched, a few of them have)...

so you keep sitting back and thinking you're better than these dudes mr. 'high and mighty'...whatever helps you sleep at night...

now come with your 'fuck offs', insults and threats of bannings like you usually do...doesn't change a damn thing...

im sorry but what does that say about someones psyche if they get turned on or amused by watching woman (or people) get degraded.
who cares if these woman were willing and knowing before hand its still disturbing to watch.im actually familiar with "ghetto gaggers" and i saw one scene where the girl broke down so bad they had to stop filming.you could literally see something die inside her eyes.the purpose of these films are to degrade woman to say anything else would be a lie.thats the appeal of them.
when i do a scene i am treated with nothing but respect and dignity.if im not cool with something it doesnt happen.i dont have male models or producers screaming at me about how much of a stupid whore i am or smacking me in the face.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

Am I wrong for laughing at a clown who takes a pie in the face?

Btw, this is for the porn site Ghetto Gaggers. Which deals exclusively in content like this. Meaning they know full well what they're getting into when they go in. That is, if they're smart enough to do their research. And if they aren't it's still funny. If you were stupid enough to let this happen to you I'd laugh at you as well. So maybe you get off that high horse.

Degrading women doesn't matter. Degrading PEOPLE is what's funny. You sexist twat.

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your probably the type of person that laughs at faces of death vids smh

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Originally Posted by tsamberskyi

your probably the type of person that laughs at faces of death vids smh

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I've never watched one. So I couldn't tell you. Of course I've never made my distaste for people anything less than obvious, but that's quite irrelevant though seeing as how this topic isn't about me. Stop derailing threads.

As for your other post, perhaps you don't care if they consent to it or not. That's fine, it's not your thing. But the fact of the matter is they willingly put themselves in that situation, so it's their own damn fault. Stand in front of train and it will hit you. It's pretty basic logic for anyone with a fully functional brain. Being judgmental about what people get off to is preeeetty hypocritical of you.
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This is an interesting topic that I had no plan on viewing as I don't usually like watching youtube vids. Given the statements, I decided to see just what was going on.

I have to agree that there is a huge difference between the more vanilla type of porn we film and this genre that this site promotes. It's like the difference between a white comedian doing a joke about black people and a white comedian walking on stage with "black face" (minstrel shows, vaudeville type) making the same jokes. There comes a point where a person crosses the line. I also can't help but think less of the individuals that actually get off to this brand of porn they are promoting. Makes me glad there are people like me in the business that actually care about the model well being and that they are treated fairly.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

I've never watched one. So I couldn't tell you. Of course I've never made my distaste for people anything less than obvious, but that's quite irrelevant though seeing as how this topic isn't about me. Stop derailing threads.

As for your other post, perhaps you don't care if they consent to it or not. That's fine, it's not your thing. But the fact of the matter is they willingly put themselves in that situation, so it's their own damn fault. Stand in front of train and it will hit you. It's pretty basic logic for anyone with a fully functional brain. Being judgmental about what people get off to is preeeetty hypocritical of you.

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A similar argument was made about the girl that R. Kelly pissed on, just because someone may think that they want it doesn't mean it should be allowed to occur. People in a position of power (the producers) have a moral obligation to treat people with respect, and until people stand up and show these girls they don't have to put up with bs in order to make a buck in porn the foolishness will just continue.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

A similar argument was made about the girl that R. Kelly pissed on, just because someone may think that they want it doesn't mean it should be allowed to occur. People in a position of power (the producers) have a moral obligation to treat people with respect, and until people stand up and show these girls they don't have to put up with bs in order to make a buck in porn the foolishness will just continue.

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If you don't wanna get pissed on, move out of the way.

And again you all seem to be over looking the fact that some people actually enjoy being treated that way. Do these girls? I don't know, it could go either way I don't know the broads. But just as there are people who enjoy doing it, there are people who enjoy having it done to them. So it isn't always about the people who fap to the degradation, but the people who fap ( and shlick ) to the humiliation. People have kinks... get over it. It's not rape, it's not pedophilia, it's not a snuff film. Don't like it... move along. I saw period porn once, damn near threw up. Did I start picketing? No, I moved the fuck along. Quick.

Who hasn't watched one of those celebrity roast on Comedy Central?

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

A similar argument was made about the girl that R. Kelly pissed on, just because someone may think that they want it doesn't mean it should be allowed to occur. People in a position of power (the producers) have a moral obligation to treat people with respect, and until people stand up and show these girls they don't have to put up with bs in order to make a buck in porn the foolishness will just continue.

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you're wrong on 2 parts here:

1) just because YOU feel the moral obligation to do such does not mean EVERYONE has to feel, think or live the same way...

2) the r. kelly argument is TOTALLY flawed...there is a huge difference between someone using their celebrity, influence, power, etc to get a young, impressionable individual that may idolize them to do something versus a GROWN ASS person (some of these girls even have kids) that can think and make choices/decisions for themselves to do the same thing...by your logic, jerry sandusky could have pulled the same thing with the 22 year old quarterback (who can DECIDE FOR HIMSELF whether he wants a dick in his ass) that he did with the 8 year old child he was with in the shower...

and again, though you may think/feel/believe that your 'vanilla' brand of porn is palatable, to much of society it is still degrading and exploitation...and you, an individual who makes money off of these girls, because some may do it because they're in a financial bind (as i believe was the case in you, vidman and amber's little tiff a few weeks ago), are exploiting them as well...just because you aren't slapping or choking them doesn't make it any different...this isn't karate...there aren't varying degrees of exploitation...but im sure you will continue to shoot the pictures & video and collect a check from it...

and again, NO ONE IS MAKING THEM DO IT...just like amber said, if she's not cool with it, its doesn't happen...if they don't like what's going on, they can always leave...nobody has them trapped in a dungeon with no way out...

not to mention that, i have discussed this very topic with jada fire and she said, they ask you in the very beginning what you will and won't do...what you are and aren't comfortable with them doing to you...and note the edits in the videos where the girls might be covered in puke, but then next frame they've wiped off, freshened up (for lack of a better phrase), etc...at any point in time, they could be like, 'you know what, fuck this..im gone'...

ps...i don't give a slap happy fuck if a chick does porn, escorts or shits on a stick to get paid...i dont look down on her at all...i just don't want to hear that 'this is all i can do', 'im playing the cards i was dealt' shit...there are many transgender & genetic women who, instead of selling themselves, work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet...some have gone back to school, and gotten a degree or learned a trade and now work in corporate america, academia, hospitals, salons, etc...perfect example...angel vixen...watch the beginning or her scene in the latest black shemale idol...see what the fuck she's doing..