80% top unless you make a commitment....;)
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Verse all day!!!!
What the hell is the point of fucking a Tgirl if your scared of the plumbing?
Besides a dick is made of the same skin tissue as a clit and the longest clitoris ever recorded is 4inches (while erect).
semen has the same chemicals that a genetic woman who skeets when she reaches climax.
Now I mention all this based off the assumption that all men here consider TS as "women" despite what they use to be so there should be no inhibitions in the bed when it comes to sleeping with one.
But if your: A)paying for your time B)Found a prude that doesn't like you playing with that region or C)A content with being a selfish lover.
Then by all means just send the open minded girls to me!
Most Tgirls are aggressive and aint ashamed to say what they want in the bed. So this story sounds kinda lame since the average ts will ask how you get down before you ever step foot in her home/apt/hotel, so if thats to whole story then thats her fault for not doing her homework.
Mind you I rarely bottom for a chick but what I don't like are girls who have limitations.
It's just like having a genetic girl who doesn't suck dick. I might not always want oral but it's good to know that she down when ever I do.
So on the flip side if I was that guy in the story I would've found out what she's willing to do, f*ck her like crazy, then left and never called her again.
Speak for yourself! Even on all fours Indy stands tall.
If a tgirl ever said some bullshit like that to me, sex would never be an option between us.
Why is it that over 80% of all men are born with a functional prostate. That feeling that trannies get with a stiff one in their ass aint because they choose to be female it's quite the opposite.
So it doesn't make you homo, submissive or less manly if your only utilizing something you were born with in the first place....?
Education people!
Yeah I like trannies cause their feminine bodies and hopefully nice thick dicks, if I wanna fuck I will get a GG.
Im not taking it in the ass, i just like to suck em and let em nut on my face.
You missing the point I said PERSONAL life. The situation she met the guy out and about no p4p. She was horny wanting to get fucked. The average TS on the prowl is not going to ask a guy what is he into. Normally she will let the guy make the first move in the bedroom. I would say 95% of the girls i been with on this level never asked me what i want. Afterwards is usually when i hear things like "Im glad you didnt want to get fucked" or "Im glad the first thing you didnt do was go for my dick".
In all honestly if you want to get involved with a TS. They all have limitations especially if you are not paying and you want a REAL relationship.
Granted 95% of the tgirls I know are in the sex business, the last time I paid to play was back in "02" so 8yrs and about 40 trannies later I can assure you my brother that I have never paid a Tgirl a single dime for sex ever since. So for sake of argument, I assumed we were all talking in terms of being in a tgirls personal life since I doubt paying for ass was on any guys wish list for this thread LOL!
That being said, I know Erica Kane and all her friends personally (the tgirl laying under the Black-tgirl banner lol) They all know my M.O. on the strip (12th and spruce) and that even goes for the ones there are strickly about getting their "coins." They all have their down time which is when they require some "body maintenance" of their own which is when Indy comes in. (literally)
And trust that it doesnt have to be an official relationship in order to get the milk for free. It just takes confidence, a good rapport and a lil patience. And those limitations you speak of are what make it that much easier to move on to the next one if or when I eventually get bored.
I am speaking in a relationship not as a chaser. If you know about tgirls than you know the majority dont like whats between their legs they only do it for money. The end result if possible is to have SRS if they tell you otherwise then they are not a TS. You might not know the effects of continued hormone usage if a TS doesnt have srs and its not pretty(there is a reason behind taking hormones).
That being said the majority of TS girls especially in the sex business dont respect guys who bottom and or perform oral, because to them that is considered gay....:rolleyes: I know a good 40% of the girls on this site alone and I hear the exact same story. If you want to get your ass blown out...cool If you want to blow out some TS ass thats cool too. Im just shedding light through the eyes on most tgirls for men who want to be in a relationship with one.
You lost me right about there!
The act of being transexual is "Transitioning" now I dont know who you socialize with in Cali. but every TS I've incountered will tell you it's not what's between their legs that makes them female it's what's between their "ears". So who are you or anyone else to tell them their not TS or a woman if SRS isn't on their agenda?
Some tgirls prefer thier extended clits, since a good number of them that I know that feel that they are female regardless if they slit to dicks down the middle and fold it inwards or not. So to that 40% you speak of, I call them uneducated self loathing idiots. Anal sex doest make a man gay. Men having sex with other men is gay. So I can't speak on the next mans intentions or motives when it comes to their attractions to Tgirls. But for me I have one simple rule.
Regardless of what goes on in the bedroom if you want me to respect you as a woman, then respect me as a straight male. Talk of anything else is dead issue to me.
F.Y.I. a Chaser is a relative term. One Tranny's "chaser" is another tgirls knight in shining armor. So whether gay or str8.... Chaser or Admirer...Transgendered woman or boy in a dress....
It aint what they call you it's what you ans. to!
:rolleyes: i dont know bout that story, if your freind is a well known TOP provider, why would she think this guy was going to TOP her? that like me or any other man meeting Karrine Steffans aka superhead at a club/bar then she invites me to her place for sex then dosnt want to suck my dick! just donst make sense
Transitioning meaning what?....:rolleyes: I dont socialize with just girls in California lol @ 40% out of 700 plus girls are not in California. I am part of a huge network of TS plus i dealt with in my past profession, and the girls I studied with in Brasil. This forum has a search function. This has been discussed in the past with studies and references.
I just noticed (on one of my threads)where you couldnt differentiate a TS from a man in drag so YOU might be the one who needs to be educated.
The guy she met didnt know who she was. He was some random guy she met( casual meeting on the street) and she was horny. Thats the difference in your example, you know who she is and expect it, as compared to a guy who has no clue who she is, and might not expect it.
i agree whole heartedly...from the many tgirls i've dealt with, when i tell them i'm STRICTLY top, they like me even more...just like no gg would respect a dude that asked her to stick a dildo in his ass, no true tg is gonna respect a dude that lubes his ass up and bends over like a bitch
Do you guys listen to half of the shit you post?
The audacity to bring up a gg is laughable sincethe average gg loses respect for any man who dates a tgirl whether they top or bottom. And since drawing a line between the two doesn't make them any diference at what point do we as tgirl lovers dismiss all of the generalizing and ignorant ideas that society has forced on us?
Fact: We all were born with a prostate whether gay, str8 or trans. Its not made up in a lab or created by hormones, men are born with it.
So how the hell does utilizing something that god/nature has given us make a man a bitch?
If its not your thing then fine but don't sit here and co-sign ignorant oppinions that only hold us back in order to protect your fragile manhood! Trannies have their own individual journeys to travel dealing with society and more than half the 40% you friend socializes with never even finished high school so spear me the enlightenment of the unenlightened for I seek a woman with a brain.
Without that who needs their respect!
Ok you are gasping for air on that statement. I think you are having trouble comprehending, so I will break down what I stated so maybe you can understand...:)
I stated socialized and in my STUDIES can you figure that out genuis or do I need to hold your hand? Then you go on to say that 280 plus (and rising) never finished high school? Sit down while reading this you might be amazed...:rolleyes: 98% have completed high school many have degrees now and a few have post graduate degrees one in particular is a physician...:eek:
You might want to practice what you preach before spewing your assumptions. Maybe you should stick to nailing or being nailed by those butch queens, seeing as you cant tell the difference..;) That being said im done go to HA if you like going back and forth.
since i don't do the internet argument thing, i'm gonna let you pass...i'm just simply stating what i've learned in my interaction is tg...
and my manhood is hardly 'fragile'...if you like taking d*** then more power to you...just know that after you leave, the giggle and make fun of your ass to their friends...
...if you like taking d*** then more power to you...
just know that after you leave, they giggle and make fun of your ass to their friends...:rolleyes::D
Your argument was based off of "40%" of tgirls being pure bottoms, wanting SRS and having no respect for men who get bottomed by them.
So I simply pointed out the 60% that you neglected who actually matter to "me".
280 trannies huh.....?
Not bad..but in my defense I'd rather have more Pussy(GG) on my resume than Vaganus(TS).
Either way the # of chicks you've pulled really had nothing to do with the point you were trying to make but have fun with that.
For guys who claim they're strictly tops yall sure are use to smelling your own shit cuz I've been here only 3 days and can tell you aren't use free will or a difference in opinion.
It's just co-sign after co-sign from cheerleaders who claim they top as if that was the point of this thread or despite the fact that anyone outside of the tranny world doesn't gives a fuck so why are yall diving us up even more?
At the end of the day your not separating the weak from the strong. To me it's more like distinguishing the most intelligent from the mentally challenged.
And trust that with 250 tg under your belt the odds are greater that you've been with more Tv/bq's then anyone else here.
But hey...... it's not like there's anything wrong with that....
Carry on.
You just sound dumber with every post, no wonder you've been forced to co-sign everything your husband...I mean friend says.
We're talking about women who make a living posting ads in backpages, eros etc. in order to charge "trade" 100's of dollars to do with them what I get for free.
So who's laughing at who son?
....At least Snoop Dog makes some valid points. You just need to stick to cheerleading.
TELL 'EM WHY YOU MAD SON! TELL 'EM WHY YOU MAD!!!!!
okay mad bottom, i'ma let you think what you will...
let's go with your supposition (even though its far from true, but nevertheless)...i'd rather pay $100 to tear SOMEBODY ELSE'S a$$hole up and let them explain it to THEIR doctor, than to get mine torn up for free...cause after a few years of you get ramrodded, you'll be buying new undies every week, while i'm not....
but like i said before, if you're happy, then lube up and bend over all you like...
ps...and no matter what you think, they're still laughing at you lol
Dude are you on dope or dogfood? Reading Is Fundamental...
I mention 40% of the girls ON THIS SITE I KNOW PERSONALLY WHICH IS BLACK TGIRLS.COM. Since you pulled Erica Kane and her crew out your hole.
The number of GG in the sex industry I know heavily out number the TGirls.
I never said I "pulled" the girls nor implied I slept with them. I said through my network and through my STUDIES and previous PROFESSION. Meaning I studied transgender in undergrad and post graduate school. Profession must mean?....hmmm could that mean I worked with them?
Damn man English is my second language and I seem to grasp it alot better than you.
FYI: When you have studied and educate yourself on tgs you will be able to tell the difference between a TS from a butch queen, TV or CD.
You come on here pushing this versatile shit on us. I never said it was bad or inferior, but you CONTINUE to spew or should I say attempt open our eyes and ears to it. ALL my holes remain closed.
Now your just flip flopping... why bring up a crazy azz number to trump mine if you aren't fucking them, hell I know hundreds more ts then I've actually slept with so why part your mouth to mention that? In fact I made a thread on another TS forum about this and all of them said pretty much what I've posted about SRS. Some wanted and some didn't but all felt they were female.
So honestly I don't give a fuck what you do with a chick. I registered here with the idea that I was linking up with some cool unbias people. Not a bunch of overzealous "tops" who's demeanor border the lines of surpressed closset homos. And what's ironic is that closed asshole or not the right country or areas in the states here would behead you as quick as they would the tgirl who's looking down her nose at the bottom boy. So all that crap about about "true ts" and respecting certain guys just sounds retardard.
Yet any point I make in this regard you just dance around it.
Soooo (yawn) heres to hoping you don't bend over for society as quickly as you fold in trivial conversation.
I'm done talkin to you lames.
It's more plausable that they're laughing to the bank with your money...
F.Y.I. I know way more bottom TS then top or verse ones so go a head and pay their way. Cuz what you call laughing to their friends I call "free advertisement."
You see they all know I'm a Chaser, yet I never have to run for them.
Keep trickin Jr.
I pulled out the number since you state Erica Kane being on this site and they are in the sex business. I would leave the flip flopping to you...;) I saw the topic you posted on the other forum you only had 5 replies..lol that means nada. For the record I dont shoot for various Tgirl porn sites and in Brasil..where the hell did you get that from? Making assumptions as usual...:rolleyes: Get your facts straight instead of falsifying.
On that note im done with this thread its gone on long enough.
That's 5 actual broads vs the 250/40% you claim co-sign yours bullshit. The big picture wasn't about who your are or what you do. Its about what you said. Not to mention the pms I got from girls who don't post in the forum but I won't go there the "five" your talking about weren't your average airheads.
So until your recent threads become anything more than a male sausage fest my fact of the matter speak for themselves.
So yes this thread is done...
Absolutely not! I love to TOP, though I have bottom before, don't knock til you try it at least twice, (well that's what Andrew Zimmerman is always saying lol) Not to toot my own horn but I have a 'large' member so knowing how to please a girl during anal sex is like a fine art. Some girls, like with vaginal sex I can just dig into, but many others need more finesse.
I personally, like a bottom girl, though if in a relationship vers may be an option, on case by case scenario. I favor a pretty passable face over any other physical attributes, at least some hormone tits have to be present as well, (it doesn't concern me either way for implants or sil). Unslightly feet can be a turn off at times, but isn't necessarily a deal breaker. Being that I don't do Pay4Play, personality of the girl is a huge factor for me to be interested, I've turned down more girls than I've been with do to that factor alone.
Sheesh, you guys are mean! lol The way ya'll are carrying on, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a fight break out between Tops and Bottoms at the proposed BTG members/models get together. :p
Like KilaKali said, I'm not going to rehash this debate again either. The thread is still there and my position hasn't changed one iota. Agree to disagree and move on amicably.
I shudder and am sadden by the continuing elitism that people in this community (not just in this forum) have whether it's Tops feeling they are better than bottoms, Post-ops feeling they are better than Pre-Ops, Butch queens feeling they are better than TS, P4P versus relationships, or someone knowing many versus someone knowing few. While this is a "porn" forum having mutual respect is never a bad thing. Take stock of your moral and ethical fortitude people, especially the minorities. It wasn't so long ago when the color of your skin denoted how much respect you got. I see this as being very similar. We should all take care to respect each other and our individual likes/dislikes. I can just imagine how many of you probably openly bash gay people and/or TS in public and around 'friends' and then secretly come on here. To each their own...
Pump your brakes Remy. I read through this thread and I don't think you imagining "how many of you probably openly bash gay people and/or TS in public and around 'friends' and then secretly come on here" is warranted. The fact of the matter is one person said, and I am extremely paraphrasing/simplifying here, that bottoming is ok and tgirls respect it and will top guys for free. Then several others said tgirls in fact do not respect trade they top and laugh behind their backs. Now at times the arguments got a little nasty and sometimes illogical, but no one seemed to bash the gay community or bottoms.
Just adding my two cents, and this is just what girls have told me in both P4P and non P4P situations, they usually don't like to top and don't really respect bottoms. That being said, and I have said this before, a lot of tgirls don't respect ANY dudes top or bottom, that are clients. I'm sure some have yapped about me with their friends. The thing is... I just don't give a shit as long as get my nut. :cool: