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No conversation I engage in is pointless.

I've learned quite a few things about an individuals persona when doing so.

I was taught to own up to what I say and be man enough to admit when I'm wrong.

Despite public opinion I'm not a power bottom. I'm a alpha male. A hunter. I resides at the top of the food chain. I'm a provider and a defender of those I care for.

To dismiss all of my efforts and accomplishments on the soul basis that I may get kinky with a TS woman every now and then sounds remedial at best. Bottoming is not the same as taking offensive comments lying down.

People who take a simple bedroom act as a weakness on the street tend to be sadly mistaken since most don't know what goes on in the next mans sex life.

I don't fold when addressed on the subject so I don't expect people to break when I speak to them.

A wise man never argues with fools so if I'm having a harmless discussion with you. Learn to take it as a compliment.

I'll reiterate

I'm talking about men who have a fixation with bottoming. As in, that is their primary way of having sex and recieving sexual pleasure. And trust me when I say that I wouldn't feel the way I feel have i not been kinky and done a lot of experimenting up to this point.

I personally feel that a man bending over and asking me to penetrate him is a sign of weakness. That's just how i feel when it has to do with me. I'm experienced sexually enough to know very strongly that's how I feel.

oneone: Perhaps I am. I will not argue that I have sexual boundaries. That's all true. BUt I don't want a tranny chaser, I want a guy who's trans attracted who can view women and transsexuals as equal. Meaning, I dont want a guy who goes to women expecting one thing and comes to transsexuals expecting another. And i can hear you guys disagreeing already but these guys DO exist and I've gone out with them. There are men who not define sexual taste by the availability of parts.

That's a typical black man's way of thinking. "oh these black women dont want to give it to me, so i'll go somewhere else". Aye.

Honestly, i've spoken to a lot of women about their sexuality and Id say on average black transsexuals are far far far more open sexually than white transsxuals. In my experience, white transsexual tend to be more conservative and possibly strongly consider undergoing SRS. Where as black transsexuals, more often, are non op and are comfortable with their penis. Maybe I'm wrong, but I somehow believe you're probably going to find a "kinky" TS woman in the black community sooner than in the white community. But good luck with that hypothosis. I dont believe in competing in racewars. lol.

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I'll reiterate

I'm talking about men who have a fixation with bottoming. As in, that is their primary way of having sex and recieving sexual pleasure. And trust me when I say that I wouldn't feel the way I feel have i not been kinky and done a lot of experimenting up to this point.

I personally feel that a man bending over and asking me to penetrate him is a sign of weakness. That's just how i feel when it has to do with me. I'm experienced sexually enough to know very strongly that's how I feel.

oneone: Perhaps I am. I will not argue that I have sexual boundaries. That's all true. BUt I don't want a tranny chaser, I want a guy who's trans attracted who can view women and transsexuals as equal. Meaning, I dont want a guy who goes to women expecting one thing and comes to transsexuals expecting another. And i can hear you guys disagreeing already but these guys DO exist and I've gone out with them. There are men who not define sexual taste by the availability of parts.

That's a typical black man's way of thinking. "oh these black women dont want to give it to me, so i'll go somewhere else". Aye.

Honestly, i've spoken to a lot of women about their sexuality and Id say on average black transsexuals are far far far more open sexually than white transsxuals. In my experience, white transsexual tend to be more conservative and possibly strongly consider undergoing SRS. Where as black transsexuals, more often, are non op and are comfortable with their penis. Maybe I'm wrong, but I somehow believe you're probably going to find a "kinky" TS woman in the black community sooner than in the white community. But good luck with that hypothosis. I dont believe in competing in racewars. lol.

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There is nothing wrong with your sexual preference, being purely a bottom. However, your broader view leads me to believe you are in denial about the true nature of a man's attraction to a transsexual.

You, as you have said in this thread, are doing "everything you can" to be a (genetic) woman. Since genetic women don't have cocks, they obviously don't fuck men or get their cocks sucked. So you, in trying to be as close to a genetic woman as possible, mimic their sexual role. You don't take pleasure in getting your cocked sucked, fucking dudes, or having you dick be a sexual object. This is fine, as it is your sexual preference.

You project this view onto others, and place the "gay" label on trans interested men that like the penis of the transsexual woman. You think, and have said in this thread, that trans interested men who are interested in the penis of a transsexual are not "real men."

What is unfortunate is that you have not yet detected the 500 pound gorilla in the room. The reason trans interested men are trans interested in the first place is because trans women HAVE COCKS. Of course the overall femininity, face, body etc, is a key factor in the attraction.

But let me let you in on a little secret. Yes a man you are with will like you for your general feminine features. But if that was all he wanted, he would be with a genetic female because not only do they have those feminine traits, they have them to a higher degree.A dude might like your face and body, but he could easily take a five minute walk and see several genetic female that exceed your feminine features. He's with you because you having something they don't: a penis.

So to be "disgusted" as you say by trans interested men that like penis is, ironically, to be disgusted by trans interested men because trans seeking men are, by definition, penis interested (clearly i'm talking about ts that have not had sex change surgery).

So you have an inherent disgust for the people you are most likely to have sexual relationships with . Of course the ideal for you would be a straight man that is not into transsexuals, but is so taken by your female features that he makes an exception for you. A guy that likes women and not penis, but is so taken by you that he can ignore your penis. But, again, such a man could easily find a female who exceeds your feminine features.

You are in denial about the state of your sexuality. Again, that is fine. But what is unfortunate is that you have to insult others out of your own denial and insecurity. What is even more unfortunate is that the people you insult are your likely sexual suitors. Haha that's pretty funny actually.

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Originally Posted by lament

There is nothing wrong with your sexual preference, being purely a bottom. However, your broader view leads me to believe you are in denial about the true nature of a man's attraction to a transsexual.

You, as you have said in this thread, are doing "everything you can" to be a (genetic) woman. Since genetic women don't have cocks, they obviously don't fuck men or get their cocks sucked. So you, in trying to be as close to a genetic woman as possible, mimic their sexual role. You don't take pleasure in getting your cocked sucked, fucking dudes, or having you dick be a sexual object. This is fine, as it is your sexual preference.

You project this view onto others, and place the "gay" label on trans interested men that like the penis of the transsexual woman. You think, and have said in this thread, that trans interested men who are interested in the penis of a transsexual are not "real men."

What is unfortunate is that you have not yet detected the 500 pound gorilla in the room. The reason trans interested men are trans interested in the first place is because trans women HAVE COCKS. Of course the overall femininity, face, body etc, is a key factor in the attraction.

But let me let you in on a little secret. Yes a man you are with will like you for your general feminine features. But if that was all he wanted, he would be with a genetic female because not only do they have those feminine traits, they have them to a higher degree.A dude might like your face and body, but he could easily take a five minute walk and see several genetic female that exceed your feminine features. He's with you because you having something they don't: a penis.

So to be "disgusted" as you say by trans interested men that like penis is, ironically, to be disgusted by trans interested men because trans seeking men are, by definition, penis interested (clearly i'm talking about ts that have not had sex change surgery).

So you have an inherent disgust for the people you are most likely to have sexual relationships with . Of course the ideal for you would be a straight man that is not into transsexuals, but is so taken by your female features that he makes an exception for you. A guy that likes women and not penis, but is so taken by you that he can ignore your penis. But, again, such a man could easily find a female who exceeds your feminine features.

You are in denial about the state of your sexuality. Again, that is fine. But what is unfortunate is that you have to insult others out of your own denial and insecurity. What is even more unfortunate is that the people you insult are your likely sexual suitors. Haha that's pretty funny actually.

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Fucking stupid as shit.


Ya'll I'm done. I feel the way I feel, that it.

I have a lot of experience with men and I realize that men are interested in trans women becaue they have penies (which isn't always the case, but I'll let you believe it is) but not all men want to get fucked and suck cock.


I am not delusional in beliving that because it' a fact of life, not an opinion or concept.


I am not naive and stupid and im really sick of being accused as such. I like men who are total tops nd I find men who are total bottoms unappealing. What's so hard to understand about that. tttttttt

I never once said i wanted a man who ignores my penis. I just dont want a cock obsessed guy. And there is huge difference and its really sad you dont see the difference between a transattracted man and a cock hungry total bottom who still wants to consider himself straight.



No more debate on this subject, you will not win.

Hmm.............

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

Fucking stupid as shit.


Ya'll I'm done. I feel the way I feel, that it.

I have a lot of experience with men and I realize that men are interested in trans women becaue they have penies (which isn't always the case, but I'll let you believe it is) but not all men want to get fucked and suck cock.


I am not delusional in beliving that because it' a fact of life, not an opinion or concept.


I am not naive and stupid and im really sick of being accused as such. I like men who are total tops nd I find men who are total bottoms unappealing. What's so hard to understand about that. tttttttt

I never once said i wanted a man who ignores my penis. I just dont want a cock obsessed guy. And there is huge difference and its really sad you dont see the difference between a transattracted man and a cock hungry total bottom who still wants to consider himself straight.



No more debate on this subject, you will not win.

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Again, there is nothing wrong with your sexual preference of being purely a bottom and finding men who get fucked and suck cock as unattractive. But it is unfair for you to say, like you did in an earlier post, that men who do those things "should go find a man," because they themselves are not "real men."

It is just ironic that a transsexual of all people is so sexually judgmental, putting people into a little box like that by defining them based on their sexual actions. It is ironic because you are progressive and broad-minded enough to think that you are a real woman despite your genetics, and yet so conservative and narrow minded that you say transinterested men are real men if and only if they don't like the transsexual's penis.

The issue with your thinking is not your sexual preference of not wanting men who like penis. The issue is that you are judgmental and narrow minded enough to place men who do in a box that you label "not real man." There is nothing wrong with you thinking that way, it is your opinion. . It is just ironic that such a parochial view is coming from you, a person who's sexual identity is so often subject to unfair judgement.

If someone holds your opinion, and by the same token has the equally narrow minded view that transsexuals are men dressed as women and that men who have sex with them are gay, I am perfectly okay with their thinking because it is at least consistent. You thinking is inconsistent. The double standard you have, judging transsexuals liberally and the men that have sex with them conservatively. That's all I'm saying. Now can you quit this yapping and come fuck my brains out already, sheesh:D

Here' where we iffer

I someoen says Im a man in womens clothing, i laugh at them because i know that's not true.

You should learn to do the same.

Just because I'm transsexual doesn't mean I have to be open minded about my sexuality.

If all a man wants is cock, he needs to go to a man. Period.

I cant see what's so confusing about that.


You dont think that men would sooner fuck a guy in the as than a transsexual?

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Here' where we iffer

I someoen says Im a man in womens clothing, i laugh at them because i know that's not true.

You should learn to do the same.

Just because I'm transsexual doesn't mean I have to be open minded about my sexuality.

If all a man wants is cock, he needs to go to a man. Period.

I cant see what's so confusing about that.


You dont think that men would sooner fuck a guy in the as than a transsexual?

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Absolutely, but none of them have any part in the equation when it's comes to a straight man who's into tgirls and what he does with them sexually. But since you like making things a democracy when it's convenient, I'm quite sure the % of TS who do fuck straight men is closer than you'd care to admit. So I guess this rules out both statistics.

I'm sort of curious about something though. At what point or to what degree do you diagnose a guy as being "cock obsessed?"

Not trying to be nosy, I just really want to get some insight from tgirls who think as you do.

If you're completely naked, there really aren't to many ways to avoid a guy having some contact with your nether regions while being intimate, so how comfortable does a straight man have to be when having sex with a pre-opt ts as far as being exposed to a tgirls dick goes, before he's ruled out as a man lover in disguise to you?

I mean if a guy is totally grossed out to the point where he can no longer preform because a tgirls dick keeps touching his leg, stomach, etc. does that make him a keeper?

Kitty, not to jump on the bandwagon, but this is exactly where I was trying to go with you during our debate but I chose to digress because I didn't want to start any hard feelings between us. But I totally agree with Indy and Lament. They are definitely more articulate than I am on getting their points across on this subject matter.

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Absolutely, but none of them have any part in the equation when it's comes to a straight man who's into tgirls and what he does with them sexually. But since you like making things a democracy when it's convenient, I'm quite sure the % of TS who do fuck straight men is closer than you'd care to admit. So I guess this rules out both statistics.

I'm sort of curious about something though. At what point or to what degree do you diagnose a guy as being "cock obsessed?"

Not trying to be nosy, I just really want to get some insight from tgirls who think as you do.

If you're completely naked, there really aren't to many ways to avoid a guy having some contact with your nether regions while being intimate, so how comfortable does a straight man have to be when having sex with a pre-opt ts as far as being exposed to a tgirls dick goes, before he's ruled out as a man lover in disguise to you?

I mean if a guy is totally grossed out to the point where he can no longer preform because a tgirls dick keeps touching his leg, stomach, etc. does that make him a keeper?

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You brought up a good point, where she draws the line of what is "cock hungry." What she jumped on that ude earlier for saying was excessive imo. He said she had a pretty penis and she throws him in the cock hungry box. If a guy is cock hungry for thinking a ts has a nice penis, 99% of dudes that are into ts are cock hungry. The other 1 % is probably new to ts and will soon get used to/like the cock. I myself was in that 1%, not in the majority.

But if by cock hungry she means a guy that cares about NOTHING but cock, and would take an ugly dude in dress look with a big dick over very hot chick with small, yeah, that is cock hungry and would probably enjoy dudes more than ts if he got over the gay phobia.

But I don't think there are many ts interested dudes that are like that.

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Originally Posted by lament

But I don't think there are many ts interested dudes that are like that.

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You'd be surprised

Soemoen told me the other day in my cam shows that my cock was too small so they didn't want to private with me?

what?

The amount of guys who message me and say "oh you're pretty HOW BIG IS YOUR COCK?" I mean come on guys. Let's be honest, there is nothing feminine or hetero about a penis. Nothing. And I for one am tired being reduced to my penis every time a trans attracted man wnats to talk to me. How can i posibly feel lik this guy isn't gay when all he cares about is cock? Are you serious?

I'm so done having this conversation

You guys just dont understand my sexulaity at all so I'm not going to try to defend it anymore.


i like guys who arent' obsessed with sucking cock and getting fucked.

Not that I wanted to bring this up again but, Cosmic is a total bottom.


And I simply dont understand how you can sit there and call a guy completley heterosexual when the only way he can get off is getting fucked int he ass.

BUt whatever, you guys can validate that as hetero all you want, that's your choice.

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Kitty, not to jump on the bandwagon, but this is exactly where I was trying to go with you during our debate but I chose to digress because I didn't want to start any hard feelings between us. But I totally agree with Indy and Lament. They are definitely more articulate than I am on getting their points across on this subject matter.

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Look, you guys are bottoms and so am I. Why you think we'd be compatible is beyond me. There are plenty of Tgirls who are tops that want praise and love for their cock I'm just not one of them. And as I said, unless you're giving me money I'm not gonna pretend to be into it.


None of you guys will convince me to change my mind. I am a very informed person when it concerns my own sexuality and gender identity. You all keep saying you're not asking me to change, so why is this a discussion?

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You brought up a good point, where she draws the line of what is "cock hungry." What she jumped on that ude earlier for saying was excessive imo. He said she had a pretty penis and she throws him in the cock hungry box. If a guy is cock hungry for thinking a ts has a nice penis, 99% of dudes that are into ts are cock hungry. The other 1 % is probably new to ts and will soon get used to/like the cock. I myself was in that 1%, not in the majority.

But if by cock hungry she means a guy that cares about NOTHING but cock, and would take an ugly dude in dress look with a big dick over very hot chick with small, yeah, that is cock hungry and would probably enjoy dudes more than ts if he got over the gay phobia.

But I don't think there are many ts interested dudes that are like that.

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Exactly, but another interesting issue comes to mind that seems to be constantly swept under the rug.

And that's with these guys who will have nothing to do with a penis but will fuck a guy in the ass just ass quickly as they would our lovely Ms. Kat here.

I mean you would think that would be a more prevalent issue with women than straight guys who are simply comfortable with a tgirl using her cock.

I love to kiss but that doesn't mean I'm privy to every pair of human lips on the planet. The same should be noted with regard to penis and ass as well, since the fem/weak man discussion has everyone forgetting about the muscle bound Deebo type guys who go back and forth to prison sleeping with guys sometimes forcefully, then going back home to their wives/bm's/girlfriends....

So at end the day, girls and tgirls alike don't really know what they're dealing with a lot of the time when they date what the see as a "real man". And ti only make it worse when they slight guys by deeming them as weak or less of man because of the question of a sexual act that would be done exclusively with them in the first place.

So to quote a wise person "Why be a Knight in shining armor when the average chick will leave you for a DL thug wearing tin foil?"

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

I'm so done having this conversation

You guys just dont understand my sexulaity at all so I'm not going to try to defend it anymore.


i like guys who arent' obsessed with sucking cock and getting fucked.

Not that I wanted to bring this up again but, Cosmic is a total bottom.


And I simply dont understand how you can sit there and call a guy completley heterosexual when the only way he can get off is getting fucked int he ass.

BUt whatever, you guys can validate that as hetero all you want, that's your choice.

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He can rightfully claim to be hetero because God/nature blessed all men with a fully functioning prostate gland.

Hate to beat a dead horse but this stems back to male anatomy and nature could care less about what society decrees as gay or straight. The fact is TS were born male and that feeling you get when a stiff one hits your prostate gland aka "male g-spot" is the same feeling that all males have to potential of getting. Which is due to direct contact to nerve endings at an orgasms focal point while cutting out the penis as the middle man.

So gay, str8 or trans we all have this organ and it's kind of stupid that someone long ago decided that only gays and ts woman are the only one with permission to utilize it. If that's the case then why do we all have one?

Hell stimulating the prostate directly even helps to prevent prostate cancer. So fuck what anyone else thinks about me using mine.

Fact is people with higher education and IQ's are more likely to try new things sexually then those who lack, so all I can say based on all these discussions is that something else most be going on with you.

That said if I see ts as a woman then the penis is exempt from scrutiny as well. Any other psychological issues that said tranny may have are her problem and not mine.

My part of the bargain was fulfilled from day one.

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Fact is people with higher education and IQ's are more likely to try new things sexually then those who lack

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Do you have a link to that "fact?"

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

I mean come on guys. Let's be honest, there is nothing feminine or hetero about a penis. Nothing.

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And herein lies the issue. You have associated the penis as purely a masculine organ, whereas guys who like ts cock do not. To us, it is not unlike the other parts of the woman that we like. Ass, tits, etc. The dick is seen as part of this combo, a part that genetic women do not have. When one stops looking at the penis as a male sex organ and more as an androgynous sexual accessory, liking cock is not liking men, it's just liking cock. If natural females were born with this organ, men would love it because it is a very sexual organ.

I can only speak for myself in saying this, but I'd bet most guys into ts agree that the penis is simply a more intriguing organ than the vagina. Especially since men are visual creatures, and the vagina is a flat surface that doesn't do anything visually stimulating, whereas the penis does.



You view your penis as the one masculine trait you have, and as you want to be as feminine as possible, you resent your penis for this reason. You also resent men who like the thing that you resent. There is a disconnect when you say that you are feminine but your sex organ is not.

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Originally Posted by Indy24

He can rightfully claim to be hetero because God/nature blessed all men with a fully functioning prostate gland.

Hate to beat a dead horse but this stems back to male anatomy and nature could care less about what society decrees as gay or straight. The fact is TS were born male and that feeling you get when a stiff one hits your prostate gland aka "male g-spot" is the same feeling that all males have to potential of getting. Which is due to direct contact to nerve endings at an orgasms focal point while cutting out the penis as the middle man.

So gay, str8 or trans we all have this organ and it's kind of stupid that someone long ago decided that only gays and ts woman are the only one with permission to utilize it. If that's the case then why do we all have one?

Hell stimulating the prostate directly even helps to prevent prostate cancer. So fuck what anyone else thinks about me using mine.

Fact is people with higher education and IQ's are more likely to try new things sexually then those who lack, so all I can say based on all these discussions is that something else most be going on with you.

That said if I see ts as a woman then the penis is exempt from scrutiny as well. Any other psychological issues that said tranny may have are her problem and not mine.

My part of the bargain was fulfilled from day one.

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I think i agree with this assessment. If you define sex with a ts to be heterosexual sex, then any sexual act performed is by definition also heterosexual imo, just as it is technically heterosexual for a female to fuck a guy in the ass with a strap on.

I myself do not consider sex with a ts to me heterosexual, based purely on the scientific definition of sex, which has to do with genetics, not gender roles. You are male, the ts is genetically male, so the sex is technically homosexual, although the gender roles are not the same are typical homosexual sex. This is just semantics, however.

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Do you have a link to that "fact?"

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There's several columns on this topic but here's one for starters.

http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/...etter-Sex.html

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There's several columns on this topic but here's one for starters.

http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/...etter-Sex.html

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You need to come up with a more cogent article than that to support your "fact." That article you posted is an ADMITTED generalization that women with high IQs give better sex, based upon a study detailing that women with higher emotional intelligence give better sex. So there was no direct study of anyone doing anything homosexual or a study of anyone's overall IQ. That article didn't even cite the "study" it used. The person who wrote that article used "generalization" incorrectly. That person did was make a completely unscientific assumption.

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Originally Posted by lament

I myself do not consider sex with a ts to me heterosexual, based purely on the scientific definition of sex, which has to do with genetics, not gender roles. You are male, the ts is genetically male, so the sex is technically homosexual, although the gender roles are not the same are typical homosexual sex.

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Deductive Reasoning or Deductive Logic is evaluated in terms of it's validity and soundness.

Example:
1. M2F Transsexuals are all born as males.
2. Males who have sex with other males are known as homosexuals.
3. Therefore, Males who have sex with Transsexuals are homosexual.

Another example would be:
1. If love blind and God is love.
2. And Ray Charles is blind.
3. Then it's safe to say that Ray Charles is God.

Both of these arguments are valid but not sound since it's obvious that Ray Charles is not God. And deeming a man who has sex with Transsexual a homosexual while leaving out all the valid information regarding TS females like the "Sex Change Gene" recently discovered by Melbourne Scientist which caused male embryos to develop female characteristics for instance, just because she was born male, makes this deductive argument an unfair and unsound assessment due to the limited amount of factors.

And since the study of transsexualism is still and open book with research that has barely scratched the surface. I'll continue regard it in the grey area and not the gay one.

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You need to come up with a more cogent article than that to support your "fact." That article you posted is an ADMITTED generalization that women with high IQs give better sex, based upon a study detailing that women with higher emotional intelligence give better sex. So there was no direct study of anyone doing anything homosexual or a study of anyone's overall IQ. That article didn't even cite the "study" it used. The person who wrote that article used "generalization" incorrectly. That person did was make a completely unscientific assumption.

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My initial source material came from a Comcast On Demand link from either the Learning Channel or Discovery Channel. So if you've got cable, see if it's still there or just Google the subject like I just did.

At this point though it just seems like you're grasping at straws. Even if that comment was ruled as inconclusive it still would hinder my overall stance on the initial issue.

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Deductive Reasoning or Deductive Logic is evaluated in terms of it's validity and soundness.

Example:
1. M2F Transsexuals are all born as males.
2. Males who have sex with other males are known as homosexuals.
3. Therefore, Males who have sex with Transsexuals are homosexual.

Another example would be:
1. If love blind and God is love.
2. And Ray Charles is blind.
3. Then it's safe to say that Ray Charles is God.

Both of these arguments are valid but not sound since it's obvious that Ray Charles is not God. And deeming a man who has sex with Transsexual a homosexual while leaving out all the valid information regarding TS females like the "Sex Change Gene" recently discovered by Melbourne Scientist which caused male embryos to develop female characteristics for instance, just because she was born male, makes this deductive argument an unfair and unsound assessment due to the limited amount of factors.

And since the study of transsexualism is still and open book with research that has barely scratched the surface. I'll continue regard it in the grey area and not the gay one.

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your deductive logic comparison is not a valid comparison at all. The first 3 is a logical line of thinking and is valid. Like "If all boxes are cubes, and i just picked up a box, then that box is a cube." It would be a false assumption to say that "if i picked up a cube, then it is a box." Because all boxes are defined to be cubes, but it is not necessarily true that all cubes are boxes.

That's the sort of reasoning you have in the second logical sequence.

1) since love is blind and god is love, then god is blind
2)Ray charles is blind
3)it is false to assume ray charles is god simply because he is blind. being blind is a requirement of being god, but not a guarantee that one is god. God is blind, but there are things that are blind that are NOT god. By comparison, there are NOT things that are God without being blind. You could say "I am not blind so I am not God," and that would be logical.

It is a scientific fact that M2F transsexuals are genetic males. There are probably genetic factors that influence them to become transsexuals, but that does not change the scientific definition of what a male is. Science has agreed on the "XY sex-determination system," google it and read the wiki page. Basically, if you have xx sex chromosomes, you are female. If you have xy chromosomes, you are male. M2F transsexuals are defined as males, and men who have sex with them are, based on the definition of the terms involved, engaging in homosexual sex.

However, as I said, this is based on the scientific and technical definitions of the terms. These definitions are arbitrary social constructs. They are relative, and you can use your own system to define what your actions for yourself.

Me personally, as a student of science, I like to use general definitions that match mainstream definitions. Language is a tool for people to communicate, and it makes sense that everyone speak the same language. Technically, fucking transsexuals is homosexual. But the key is to not worry about terms and labels, and understand that although genetically male, transsexuals (the hot ones at least) have much more in common with females than males, and that grouping them in with men is based on arbitrary social constructs and definitions of sex, and that humans with xx sex chromosomes don't have a lease on femininity.

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Look, you guys are bottoms and so am I. Why you think we'd be compatible is beyond me. There are plenty of Tgirls who are tops that want praise and love for their cock I'm just not one of them. And as I said, unless you're giving me money I'm not gonna pretend to be into it.


None of you guys will convince me to change my mind. I am a very informed person when it concerns my own sexuality and gender identity. You all keep saying you're not asking me to change, so why is this a discussion?

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Well Damn.. Kitty you can spot them bottom boys by a country mile.

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

lol. Cosmic, i'm not going to go even humor that. For a guy who isn't interested in turning me on you sure do like my cock and you sure do like talking to me a lot.


Wow, what is it with men? You turn them down or express its not what you're into and all the sudden it's "omg, well you're ugly" or "well i dont care".

Ugh. God, the state of men. This thread is about my sexy videos and my webcam shows. So if you're not attracted to me, excuse yourself from the thread and do not contact me again.

Thanks. :)

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I said you had a cute penis, because I thought it was cute how the skin wrapped around it. Would I play with it? Sure, but in expressing what I said it certainly wasn't my intention to move things with you in that direction. You're not only across the country, you are, like myself, a bottom. So what would be the point?

I liked talking to you because we had common interests. Seeing as how I haven't insulted you at all, the things you're saying are unwarranted and misguided. But if you would like me not to contact you again, I will respect that. I hope the porn thing goes well for you.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

I said you had a cute penis, because I thought it was cute how the skin wrapped around it. Would I play with it? Sure, but in expressing what I said it certainly wasn't my intention to move things with you in that direction. You're not only across the country, you are, like myself, a bottom. So what would be the point?

I liked talking to you because we had common interests. Seeing as how I haven't insulted you at all, the things you're saying are unwarranted and misguided. But if you would like me not to contact you again, I will respect that. I hope the porn thing goes well for you.

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I am not pursuing a career in porn.

The only way i will ever be in porn is a last desperate resort. Webcam Modeling is very different. Similar, but different. You obviously dont know a lot about me if you think i even gave thought to pursuing a carrer in porn.


I'd rather you not talk to me. I'm being real and you're trying to act like you didn't hit on me. I dont have patience for bs. I respect your sexual taste, but i think if you can express yours i can express mine and neither of us should take that personally.




Now, i'd like to mention, i've always said hetero normative and not heterosexual. QUITE different if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by lament

And herein lies the issue. You have associated the penis as purely a masculine organ, whereas guys who like ts cock do not. To us, it is not unlike the other parts of the woman that we like. Ass, tits, etc. The dick is seen as part of this combo, a part that genetic women do not have. When one stops looking at the penis as a male sex organ and more as an androgynous sexual accessory, liking cock is not liking men, it's just liking cock. If natural females were born with this organ, men would love it because it is a very sexual organ.

I can only speak for myself in saying this, but I'd bet most guys into ts agree that the penis is simply a more intriguing organ than the vagina. Especially since men are visual creatures, and the vagina is a flat surface that doesn't do anything visually stimulating, whereas the penis does.



You view your penis as the one masculine trait you have, and as you want to be as feminine as possible, you resent your penis for this reason. You also resent men who like the thing that you resent. There is a disconnect when you say that you are feminine but your sex organ is not.

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No.

The penis itself is the most male of any single part of anyone's body. nothing is more masculine than a penis. Nothing. Period. Perhaps you have started to see it as anything but, but at the end of the day, a penis is a phallus and a phallus is constructed for penetration and penetration is a male action.

As a student of science you should understand why i feel this way. I'm stubborn in my feelings towards bottoms and that will never change. I DO view my penis as feminine, but I view a man's desire for a penis to be the pursuit of a phallus, which is, in my opinion, inherently female

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Originally Posted by TurboMan

Well Damn.. Kitty you can spot them bottom boys by a country mile.

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it's easy to spot a bottom.

I dont think a single man who posts on this board (aside from daryl washington) prefers to top. I think you all love tranny cock, which is totally fine, just not my bag. I think if you walk up to a trans attracted man you've got a 70/30 chance that they're pussy bottoms in the bedroom.

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

it's easy to spot a bottom.

I dont think a single man who posts on this board (aside from daryl washington) prefers to top. I think you all love tranny cock, which is totally fine, just not my bag. I think if you walk up to a trans attracted man you've got a 70/30 chance that they're pussy bottoms in the bedroom.

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I can only speak for myself I am full top never bottomed never will.. BD, Surfer, Tman, Great1, and Seanchai have stated from previous threads are all tops..

maybe that's why i like them all so much.

Hit my cervix kali. :)

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

maybe that's why i like them all so much.

Hit my cervix kali. :)

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Lol Now i have been known to tilt a few girls cervix's in my past....:p Funny how you still remember that comment I made..

that's one of those comments that you FEEL . lol

of course i have no clue what you look like so i keep imagining snoop dog, which oddly enough does it for me

da roc hates alot of reading so i try to stay away from threads like this....smiling...



no comment

dont read it, lots of bs

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

it's easy to spot a bottom.

I dont think a single man who posts on this board (aside from daryl washington) prefers to top. I think you all love tranny cock, which is totally fine, just not my bag. I think if you walk up to a trans attracted man you've got a 70/30 chance that they're pussy bottoms in the bedroom.

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NOT Me Sister..I don't give azz NEVER have..NEVER will.I get azz!!

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Originally Posted by TurboMan

NOT Me Sister..I don't give azz NEVER have..NEVER will.I get azz!!

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My kinda man. :)

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

I DO view my penis as feminine, but I view a man's desire for a penis to be the pursuit of a phallus, which is, in my opinion, inherently male

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That is very, very strange. Tits for instance are feminine, if a guy likes your tits that's okay. Your penis to you is also feminine, and yet it's not okay? Clearly there is some difference between how you view your penis from the rest of your body. If there was not, you'd be okay with a guy like ALL of you.

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

it's easy to spot a bottom.

I dont think a single man who posts on this board (aside from daryl washington) prefers to top. I think you all love tranny cock, which is totally fine, just not my bag. I think if you walk up to a trans attracted man you've got a 70/30 chance that they're pussy bottoms in the bedroom.

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lol. You can "love tranny cock" without liking to get fucked by it. My ass is exit only, I'm sure there are many who are the same. You really think 70% of men that like ts are pussy bottoms? I doubt that seriously.

You initial comment to cosmic that started this whole conversation does make sense now, though. Bottom men disgust you, and he is a complete "pussy bottom" that likes your dick.

I kind of do think if a guy only like to get fucked by a ts, he would probably enjoy being with men and is just using ts as a stepping stone/ fill in. But that's just my opinion. Maybe they just like to get fucked without being attracted to men.

"I kind of do think if a guy only like to get fucked by a ts, he would probably enjoy being with men and is just using ts as a stepping stone/ fill in. But that's just my opinion. Maybe they just like to get fucked without being attracted to men. "

THERE YOU FINALLY GET IT!!

That's how i feel. When a guy has a strong preference towards bottoming I cannot HELP but question his sexuality. YOu wanna jerk off with me? Cool. Yu wanna lick my cum up, awesome, but that's very different from the guy who will only be with transsexuals if they fuck them.

i understand male gspot stimulation, but come on. I think its definitely a stepping stone. And I may be dead wrong about that but...i mean... if you like women why wouldn't you like fucking women? I'll never forget i met up with this guy who absolutly hated being a top. HATED IT. he wanted to blow me and possibly get fucked by me, but he didn't want me to give him head and he didnt' want to fuck me

WHAT??

I can't help but question a man's sexuality when their sexual tastes narrow down to just bottoming.

Too much info here but ANY guy on this forum who isnt attracted by a lady with a cock or to suck cock...... Why the fuck are you not on Playboy or Hustler or any other red-neck mainstream boring site...... :D Anyone in here who claims something else probably doesnt know why they are here in the first place - and no: I dont like a cock up my ass but I also dont like hypocrites..... :mad: nuff said.