Why do trannys hate tranny chasers?

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Originally Posted by thepiedpiper

I agree. I think guys who tend to spit game all the time tend to this with all women transgendered or not. In my opinion the typical player will not discriminate in anyway with a transwoman he will just game everyone with the same gusto and so I always expect transwomen to react in the same way they will take the dude with a pinch of salt.

As far as a chaser.. again as most people have suggested these dudes tend to be obsessed with one thing and one thing only - a girl with a dick. All they do is fetishise transwomen i suppose they turn these women in to objects much like some men do with ggs. I mean come on objectify any woman and she will have no respect for you so there is no suprise the feeling of hate is in the air.

On a side note... lol Sean living in the UK i am yet to go on a date where a girl has gone dutch on the first date! :P I'll admit it has happened on the second a lot but never the first. i always get the feeling that 99% of women prefer the first date to be treated with a more old fashioned approach and I think most guys approach it in this way too.

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lol.i dont hate tranny chasers.they fund my transition.i just dont deal with them on a social level.
how many threads does like "will you date a shemale" or "how do i get rid of my tranny addiction" before you guys admit the existence of such men.i personally dont think that every man that has and sex with or dated a few ts women are chasers.its alittle bit deeper than that.
its just amazing to me though how bent out of shape you guys get over this word but you dont see us girls going up in arms everytime the word shemale or tranny is used on here.

I agree so much

that tranny addiction thread pissed me off. You wanna know why we dont like chasers? I think a huge part of it is that at the very core, they feel disgusted by what they like. and no one likes to feel like they are disgusting. Specially when the person that's trying to fuck them feelts that way/

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Originally Posted by seanchai

It's not about wanting, it's about showing that you have self-respect and awareness. Otherwise, any woman who expects that is no different to any whore.

If that's you're attitude and what you expect, then don't complain when the only men interested in you are "tranny chasers".

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Your mentality is flawed.

I've been dating the same guy for a month and a half and before that i had another guy i was dating. Both of them never had issues paying for dinner or our dates. tranny chasers will always be interested in me, but i do nt have to return that interest. lol.

Believe it or not SOME men are pretty traditional and feel like if they dont have the money, they can't take a girl on a date. Sorry, if a guy ever asks me to pay for dinner on a date, i'm definitely not going to see him again

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

Your mentality is flawed.

I've been dating the same guy for a month and a half and before that i had another guy i was dating. Both of them never had issues paying for dinner or our dates. tranny chasers will always be interested in me, but i do nt have to return that interest. lol.

Believe it or not SOME men are pretty traditional and feel like if they dont have the money, they can't take a girl on a date. Sorry, if a guy ever asks me to pay for dinner on a date, i'm definitely not going to see him again

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I fail to see what the point would be then.

I guess I'm blessed with an eye for tgirls and genetic women who have their own money and just want "me" for "me".

For the record though, why would anybody envy two guys who basically wasted their time and money on a chick who didn't "return that interest"????

I dont get with guys for money.

I've dated men who are on EBT and take buses. I dont care about money, but I do care about a guy who's got his shit together. i'm 20 and i'm just starting my life out. If you expect me to have money and be independent at this phase in my life, you're not going to get very far. But men are still interested in me so alas a man has to be able to comfortable navigate the world if he wants t get with me


And Indy why dont you just stop responding to me since you have such a damn issue with me? You're so pointless.

You dont DATE guys who you aren't interested in.
What i meant was there wil always be a guy who will try to fetishize me but I do not need to give them the time of day. Sean tried to convince me the only men id get are tranny chasers and that's just not true. I only give my time to men who want to date.
I know you have a hard time understanding that some trans women enjoy long term relationships and dating and some of us view ourselves as women and not men who need to take care of another man, but believe it or not, rarely has a man ever tried to get me to pay for -anything- I dont ask a guy to pay he jsut pays.


Some men were just raised correctly.

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

I dont get with guys for money.

I've dated men who are on EBT and take buses. I dont care about money, but I do care about a guy who's got his shit together. i'm 20 and i'm just starting my life out. If you expect me to have money and be independent at this phase in my life, you're not going to get very far. But men are still interested in me so alas a man has to be able to comfortable navigate the world if he wants t get with me


And Indy why dont you just stop responding to me since you have such a damn issue with me? You're so pointless.

You dont DATE guys who you aren't interested in.
What i meant was there wil always be a guy who will try to fetishize me but I do not need to give them the time of day. Sean tried to convince me the only men id get are tranny chasers and that's just not true. I only give my time to men who want to date.
I know you have a hard time understanding that some trans women enjoy long term relationships and dating and some of us view ourselves as women and not men who need to take care of another man, but believe it or not, rarely has a man ever tried to get me to pay for -anything- I dont ask a guy to pay he jsut pays.


Some men were just raised correctly.

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oh wow hun.i didnt realize you were so young.kinda cool that your so self assured and have a strong concept of self at such a young age (and so early in your transition).just make sure not to get too bitter and angry black women lol.there are some really good people and men out there (a small few are even on this board).the trick is to know how to filter out the trash and not just throw them all away you know?

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

I dont get with guys for money.

I've dated men who are on EBT and take buses. I dont care about money, but I do care about a guy who's got his shit together. i'm 20 and i'm just starting my life out. If you expect me to have money and be independent at this phase in my life, you're not going to get very far. But men are still interested in me so alas a man has to be able to comfortable navigate the world if he wants t get with me


And Indy why dont you just stop responding to me since you have such a damn issue with me? You're so pointless.

You dont DATE guys who you aren't interested in.
What i meant was there wil always be a guy who will try to fetishize me but I do not need to give them the time of day. Sean tried to convince me the only men id get are tranny chasers and that's just not true. I only give my time to men who want to date.
I know you have a hard time understanding that some trans women enjoy long term relationships and dating and some of us view ourselves as women and not men who need to take care of another man, but believe it or not, rarely has a man ever tried to get me to pay for -anything- I dont ask a guy to pay he jsut pays.


Some men were just raised correctly.

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Relax, this is a forum built for conversation, not a knife fight. Just because I'm not hardwired to kiss every half naked tranny's ass who post on a website doesn't mean that I wasn't raised correctly.

You strike me as being spoiled and sheltered most your life. The reason being is that anyone who challenges your word as law is quickly dismissed as your enemy. Instead of just a deference of opinion.

I guess I'm just use to handling adversity but hey if not being the guy who sits and grins like an idiot when you post pictures and negative comments makes me the bad guy.

Then this world needs better hero's.

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Originally Posted by Indy24

Relax, this is a forum built for conversation, not a knife fight. Just because I'm not hardwired to kiss every half naked tranny's ass who post on a website doesn't mean that I wasn't raised correctly.

You strike me as being spoiled and sheltered most your life. The reason being is that anyone who challenges your word as law is quickly dismissed as your enemy. Instead of just a deference of opinion.

I guess I'm just use to handling adversity but hey if not being the guy who sits and grins like an idiot when you post pictures and negative comments makes me the bad guy.

Then this world needs better hero's.

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well when you're constantly disagreeing with me, to me, it makes sense that two people who dont get a long just need to accept that that's how it is. What's the point in constantly trying to argue with someone when they are diametrically opposed. Just doesn't make sense.

I view it as an attack when you act like you know a personality trait of mine when you really just dont. Sheltered, perhaps. Spoiled, hell no. I'm just at th point in my life where i'm more comfortable with an older man who can navigate life easily than a guy who is unstable. i like guys for who they are but in my effort to date guys who dont have their shit together, i've learned that i really just need a guy who is comfortable playing the stereotypical male role.


TGND: I'm already pretty bitter. I can realize and recognize that and try to not be so bitter, but honestly...sometime when i try to give things a chance, I realize that being bitter and perhaps judgemental always saves me the trouble of saying to myself "i told you so". lol

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

well when you're constantly disagreeing with me, to me, it makes sense that two people who dont get a long just need to accept that that's how it is. What's the point in constantly trying to argue with someone when they are diametrically opposed. Just doesn't make sense.

I view it as an attack when you act like you know a personality trait of mine when you really just dont. Sheltered, perhaps. Spoiled, hell no. I'm just at th point in my life where i'm more comfortable with an older man who can navigate life easily than a guy who is unstable. i like guys for who they are but in my effort to date guys who dont have their shit together, i've learned that i really just need a guy who is comfortable playing the stereotypical male role.


TGND: I'm already pretty bitter. I can realize and recognize that and try to not be so bitter, but honestly...sometime when i try to give things a chance, I realize that being bitter and perhaps judgemental always saves me the trouble of saying to myself "i told you so". lol

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lol.you remind me of a girlfriend of mine.very intelligent and quick witted chick.real cool people too if you happen to be a girl lol.

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Originally Posted by thepiedpiper

On a side note... lol Sean living in the UK i am yet to go on a date where a girl has gone dutch on the first date! :P I'll admit it has happened on the second a lot but never the first. i always get the feeling that 99% of women prefer the first date to be treated with a more old fashioned approach and I think most guys approach it in this way too.

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Obviously your dating a different group of woman then I did (less than 15 yrs ago) in the UK, I haven't dated and don't plan to since I've returned. I generally dated intelligent, creative types and they certainly didn't believe in what you think is "old fashioned". I've also got to say, although in the USA you were expected to pay everything, you got action on the 1-2nd date compared to the UK would be 2-3rd date, so it wasn't all good news.

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

Your mentality is flawed.

I've been dating the same guy for a month and a half and before that i had another guy i was dating. Both of them never had issues paying for dinner or our dates. tranny chasers will always be interested in me, but i do nt have to return that interest. lol.

Believe it or not SOME men are pretty traditional and feel like if they dont have the money, they can't take a girl on a date. Sorry, if a guy ever asks me to pay for dinner on a date, i'm definitely not going to see him again

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You are either dating "chumps" (liking that word) - or they see you as a bit of easy meat.
You are very naive.

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Originally Posted by thegirlnextdoor

lol.you remind me of a girlfriend of mine.very intelligent and quick witted chick.real cool people too if you happen to be a girl lol.

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Quick witted maybe, probably really cool to hang out with - but you are both incredibly naive about the world and how it works, while believing you know all about it. Trust me, I'm not just saying these things to be cruel or argumentative - you are products of your very short, lives so far (as Amber alluded to). Kitty your in-ability to have a discussion but take everyone who disagrees as an enemy, speaks volumes, about your lack of confidence which is why you feel a need for your date to have to pay for everything. You'd show much more moxie and potential for a longer, happier relationship if you wouild realize this and stop seeing a date as a meal ticket.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Quick witted maybe, probably really cool to hang out with - but you are both incredibly naive about the world and how it works, while believing you know all about it. Trust me, I'm not just saying these things to be cruel or argumentative - you are products of your very short, lives so far (as Amber alluded to). Kitty your in-ability to have a discussion but take everyone who disagrees as an enemy, speaks volumes, about your lack of confidence which is why you feel a need for your date to have to pay for everything. You'd show much more moxie and potential for a longer, happier relationship if you wouild realize this and stop seeing a date as a meal ticket.

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ive been on my own since i was 16.the things i have experienced,survived and endured....well never mind,everyone has a story.
i dont claim to know everything or to be the wisest but one thing i am not is niave (i just look like it lol).

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Originally Posted by thegirlnextdoor

"I think it depends on how the man approaches the woman. I think a woman knows exactly what a man wants based on his approach."

i agree and the fact that you mentioned a bar in your home lets me no exactly what type of hanging out you have in mind for us ;) lol.

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Well you definitely intoxicate me more than any bottle of liquor!! But I was really keeping it 100 witcha. After we get to know each other better and I get a feel of what I can say to you and can't say, then I'll make a reference to the "wet" bar as it pertains to something wet....and nasty maybe? Hmmm, wondering where your thought process is right about now. (naughty smile)

whatever

Im happy, they're happy.

I like a guy that likes to treat a lady

as previously stated, chances are if i have to pay for shit we aren't going to be doing anything

i never knew that being a gentleman was so uncomfortable for most men. Im upset i missed the time where men felt insulted when a woman tried to lift a finger

apparently i've got to pay for dinner AND fuck a guy in the ass. Im learning so much here. might as well just drop this whole trans thing and be a guy. lol.

If the men i date are chump, then let me keep em


Edit: maybe it's because of where i was raised. I dont know a SINGLE female friend of mine who would pay on the first date. Going down the line and entering into a more serious relationship,t hen that changes of course. But if a guy makes me pay for dinner when we're first getting to know eachother, gotta say, that's a turn off. lol. BUt that's me. And we're all different. lol.


But who am I kidding, we all know 70 percent of the guys on this forum wont be taking no tranny on no dinner. lol

Oh dear, you have a completed in-correct idea of what "being a gentleman" means, which shows you immaturity but that's cool, that is how we learn from experience. Any chump can reach into his pocket to get a girl onto bed through wining and dining - I've been that guy - but a gentlemen knows how to treat a lady with respect although he's usually looking for someone who already has that self-respect.

Maybe this is how it works though - you look for those types of guts, they look for girls like you so it's a win:win for both. Just don't whine when they move on as they have found they can done someone else or meet a woman who had more respect for them.
As I stated, you are young and I hope you'll learn there is more to life then a guy buying you dinner.

Well let me clairify something

I know some men can just go and buy me dinner like it's nothing, BUT that's not all i'm talking about.

See, the guy i'm going out with now i've yet to sleep with. Maybe it's because he's comfortable with his money, but he's never ever ever had a problem taking me to dinner the movies ect. I know and i've learned that some men can just throw down money and that that doesn't mean much, BUT those aren't the sort of guys i'm talking about.

I'm not talking about meeting up with a guy and waiting for him to buy me dinner just so he can fuck me and dump me. lol. I'm not hooking up right now. So i'm looking for something more serious. I dont see how a guy is a chump for enjoying taking me out and paying for it. some guys dont view that as me taking advantage of them.

I dont use guys for money. As previously stated, i've dated guys who were on EBT and had a BLAST. But see, he knew how to work the EBT. He knew how it worked and wasn't confused or ashamed or hesitant to use it. He had confidence in his poverty and knew how to get from point A to point B easily without viewing it as work. I like guys who i can be with comfortably. I'm not a gold digger, but i do like when a guy doesn't make me have to figure everything out.


So explain, what is naive about wanting to be comfortable with the guy you're with?

How many women do you know that want to enter into relationships where they have full reign and contorol over everything? How many women do you know that want to be in dominat positions in a relationship. I simply dont enjoy taking on dominat traits in a relationship at all, ever. Are you saying that once i accept a more dominate approach, i will be less naive?

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Originally Posted by kittymatthews

See, the guy i'm going out with now i've yet to sleep with. Maybe it's because he's comfortable with his money, but he's never ever ever had a problem taking me to dinner the movies ect. I know and i've learned that some men can just throw down money and that that doesn't mean much, BUT those aren't the sort of guys i'm talking about.


I'm not talking about meeting up with a guy and waiting for him to buy me dinner just so he can fuck me and dump me. lol. I'm not hooking up right now. So i'm looking for something more serious. I dont see how a guy is a chump for enjoying taking me out and paying for it. some guys dont view that as me taking advantage of them.

I dont use guys for money. As previously stated, i've dated guys who were on EBT and had a BLAST. But see, he knew how to work the EBT. He knew how it worked and wasn't confused or ashamed or hesitant to use it. He had confidence in his poverty and knew how to get from point A to point B easily without viewing it as work. I like guys who i can be with comfortably. I'm not a gold digger, but i do like when a guy doesn't make me have to figure everything out.


So explain, what is naive about wanting to be comfortable with the guy you're with?

How many women do you know that want to enter into relationships where they have full reign and contorol over everything? How many women do you know that want to be in dominat positions in a relationship. I simply dont enjoy taking on dominat traits in a relationship at all, ever. Are you saying that once i accept a more dominate approach, i will be less naive?

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1. See what I mean about you twisting words? Where did you get "dominant positions" or any form of "dominate" from? You have very strange views of male/female relationships.

2. Congratulations if you've met someone you are comfortable with and is comfortable with you. I must say if he's been treating you for THREE MONTHS and not got any action yet, then he must really be into you ... - how does he feel about you doing cam shows, putting nudes online yet he doesn't get any ... because personally, I'd feel that was a bit of a tease?

I'm not talking about buying a dinner for someone, I said that at the beginning, I'm talking about a level of respect, do you ever reach into your pocket on a date? Do you buy a round of drinks for him (and his friends), do you buy the popcorn? Do you pay the DVD rental? I'm on a different economical level to many of the people I spend time with so I like to pick up a lot of bills so they don't feel uncomfortable (or unable to go out) but they usually show a least a modicum of respect.

seeing as I've never really had much money i dont do any of that because I CANT

I'm not of age yet to buy people drinks


I just have a pretty traditional view of male/female relationships. And I find often time men try to compromise or complicated male/female realtionships because I am trans. I expect to be treated like a woman. I do not want to be treated like a man. I"m sorry. Like I said, I do not have a single friend who would go on a date with a guy and pay for dinner or anything. Sure when things go further down the line I'd start to try to do stuff for him, but I'm the sorta girl who makes all of her own clothing and buys used shoes. Spennding 5 dollars on food for someone who isn't me feels like stabbing a knife in my hand. NOt because i'm selfish but because I"m fucking broke. If i had more money, i'm sure i'd be more giving, but I dont.

I've never bought a new dress and Most of the shoes I own are used. I'm not AT that point in my life where i can pay for someone's anything. lol. iI have to pay for my transition art supplies AND school. lol. so if a guy wants to be with me, he's going ot have to be understanding about that.

LOL. And the only reason me and him havent had sex is because he respects me enough to get to know me before he puts his dick inside of me. I know this is a foreign idea, but he, unlike a lot of guys i've met, wants to get ot know me for more than just my ass. Going out with him has proved to me that there ARE men who aren't just tranny chasers. I asked him what it's like dating a tgirl and his response was "i view you just like any other girl, so not much different".

Dont get it twisted sean. When someone does something for me I am thankful. I"m am NOT the sort of girl who uses men. I just simply am not at the point in my life where I can do a lot on my own. And tha'ts not for lack of trying. I"m in school and the onlyw ay i'd really be able to make enough income to navigate life the way you think i should is to quit school, which isn't going to happen. Besides i have one more year then i'm done.

As far as my views I think it's very obvious that i have a very strict/rigid view of what I consider male/female. Sure i know it's a rough description and perhaps a shade unrealistic, but my ideas are not the ideas of someone who is inexperienced. I have formed my likes and dislikes based on experiences of the past. I know what I want out of a man and I know the sort of man i want to give my time to.and i believe feeling the way i feel and viewing men the way i view them ultimately leads me to quality men. or at least men who I can get along with without any argument.

You know, so often, ive had men tell me that I i shouldn't be looking for a guy with X and X and so and so. Making it sound like I should settle for less because he doesn't have much to offer. At it's taken me a long long time and a lot of pain and stress to be able to push through and pass that bullshit and realize and see that i am worthy of love and i am worthy of being treated the way i want to be treated. And anyone who truly has an issue with the way i want to be treated isn't someone i can be happy with. simple as that. It's a time saver.