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Originally Posted by Financier

I mean....y'all calling guys faggots is a contradiction, really. So I don't understand why y'all even call guys faggots for doing the same thing you're doing...being a male engaging in sex with another male. The dress up thing is cool and whatnot, but don't forget who you really are, especially to the point where you start condemning guys for doing what you're doing.

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Sounds like you may have some deep seeded problems toward trans women, in that you feel trans women are 'males' and just 'dressing up'. A trans woman having sex with a man is not the same as a man having sex with a man. Anal sex in and of itself is not homosexual, it becomes so when done man on man.

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Originally Posted by vidman

In my experiences, when I do show a girl respect, she still disrespects me in the utmost way. Perfect example....the situation I just dealt with from a certain girl in DC (you know who). I don't think it matters with you girls Amber. You all are so jaded by the industry until your sense of normal communication and relationships is skewed. You girls think that all men are the guys that call your phone looking to P4P. I can only speak for myself and my experiences. I can honestly say that I have NEVER disrespected a woman in my life! There is not one thread on here with me dogging or disrespecting a single woman. Even those threads where a girl is snapping on me, I never retaliated with disrespect.

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I beg to differ, but I'm passed it so moving on... :cool:

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Originally Posted by vidman

EXACTLY!!!!!!!! It's not like transsexuals were born biological women. As far as society sees it, they are men in dress-up. So for them to call us fags is baseless considering they are the same. Good point Finance.

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Uh, case in point of utter disrespect... :confused:

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

Sounds like you may have some deep seeded problems toward trans women, in that you feel trans women are 'males' and just 'dressing up'. A trans woman having sex with a man is not the same as a man having sex with a man. Anal sex in and of itself is not homosexual, it becomes so when done man on man.

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I have no issues whatsoever, so the pseudo-psychological stuff isn't going to work with me. I just choose to face the truth about what I'm engaging in rather than lie to myself about it by convincing myself a person is something they aren't. Last time I checked, if I'm having sex with someone with a dick and an asshole, its homosexual sex, no matter what the person identifies themselves as. People thinking the way you do is why we have so many men running around, fucking trannies and each other, and still telling the world they're straight.

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Originally Posted by Financier

I have no issues whatsoever, so the pseudo-psychological stuff isn't going to work with me. I just choose to face the truth about what I'm engaging in rather than lie to myself about it by convincing myself a person is something they aren't. Last time I checked, if I'm having sex with someone with a dick and an asshole, its homosexual sex, no matter what the person identifies themselves as. People thinking the way you do is why we have so many men running around, fucking trannies and each other, and still telling the world they're straight.

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wow...this is the reason right there why so many girls (not that im one of them) dont like getting involved with "transsexual admirers".we want someone whos going to accept us as a woman regardless of whats between our legs, not an extension of your homosexual impulses/urges.

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Originally Posted by tsamberskyi

wow...this is the reason right there why so many girls (not that im one of them) dont like getting involved with "transsexual admirers".we want someone whos going to accept us as a woman regardless of whats between our legs, not an extension of your homosexual impulses/urges.

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What I choose to see you as or what you choose to see yourself as isn't quite in line with the truth. Like I said, the whole dressing up and living as a girl thing is cool and I like it, but I'd be living a lie if I told myself you really were a woman. I can see you as a woman all I want, but that's not gonna change the scientific/physiological truth.

So...you'd rather me just close my eyes to who/what you really are and live my life in denial? You'd rather me call myself straight instead of bisexual or gay? I don't know where y'all are getting this stuff from, but the point my words have been nothing but me stating that I'm not gonna lie to myself. In fact, you CAN'T lie to yourself because subconsciously, you know the truth. If you have a problem with me not lying to myself, then your problem isn't with me....you have an internal issue of your own that you need to work on.

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Originally Posted by Indy24

I understand clearly but what you don't understand is that regardless of what amount of "respect" is given that's not gonna give the average escort the red carpet treatment regarding relationships. You fight the disparaging names being called but you can't deny the justifications for them stating the matter. And not knowing if his lovely escort companion has a "hair bump or a cold soar" could change his life for the remainder....

Your opinion is a result of self preservation so only you and TS women of your profession will co-sign that evasive "Pretty Woman" fetish you all tend to dream upon.

Oh and for a tranny to call a man a fag for embracing tranny cock. It can not be proven w/o his co-contributor. So you might wanna use another example to plead your case moving forward.

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i have no problem with some guys not preferring to date girls in the adult industry.i have my own preferences as well, like i would never get involved with someone in the entertainment industry or aspiring to do so.
what i do have a problem with tho it seems that you guys forget that we are people too.ive said it time and time again that just because im an escort i dont cease to be human and have the same desires that drive us all.i know i just want to be loved, accepted and cared for like everyone else.
i also have a problem with men calling woman in the industry hoes,bitches and etc. using words like that to describe someone is a way to objectify and dehumanize them.again we (escorts and porn actresses) are people too.i recently had a convo with a fellow forum member who said we shouldnt break people down to nouns,instead of pronouns.
also please dont pretend to know my motivations,dreams or aspirations.i in no way have ever subscribed to that pretty woman bullshit way of thinking that a man is going to come in and save me.ive had many guys offer and express a desire to take care of me but i know everything isnt what it seems and comes at a price.i for one am not willing to sacrifice my freedom so some dude can take care of me and run my life.yall can keep that lol.

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Originally Posted by Financier

What I choose to see you as or what you choose to see yourself as isn't quite in line with the truth. Like I said, the whole dressing up and living as a girl thing is cool and I like it, but I'd be living a lie if I told myself you really were a woman. I can see you as a woman all I want, but that's not gonna change the scientific/physiological truth.

So...you'd rather me just close my eyes to who/what you really are and live my life in denial? You'd rather me call myself straight instead of bisexual or gay? I don't know where y'all are getting this stuff from, but the point my words have been nothing but me stating that I'm not gonna lie to myself. In fact, you CAN'T lie to yourself because subconsciously, you know the truth. If you have a problem with me not lying to myself, then your problem isn't with me....you have an internal issue of your own that you need to work on.

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that whole "scientific/physiological" argument doesnt work.if you bother to do any actual research on transsexual woman than you would know that scientist have actually found biological and psychological differences in transsexual people.
your truth isnt the truth hun.just because you decree something doesnt make it so.
to be honest i dont care what guys call themselves.ive dated/talked to them all...straight,bi,gay whatever lol.my only thing is if you cant see, respect and treat me as a woman we have nothing to talk about.

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Originally Posted by Financier

I have no issues whatsoever, so the pseudo-psychological stuff isn't going to work with me. I just choose to face the truth about what I'm engaging in rather than lie to myself about it by convincing myself a person is something they aren't. Last time I checked, if I'm having sex with someone with a dick and an asshole, its homosexual sex, no matter what the person identifies themselves as. People thinking the way you do is why we have so many men running around, fucking trannies and each other, and still telling the world they're straight.

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Hey, you are fine labeling yourself gay congrats to you and welcome to the LGBT community, but it isn't your place to label others. I think you have cross dressers (men who dress up in womens clothes) confused with transsexuals (who live their lives as women) there is a huge difference. We don't think, act, or live our lives like men. There are countries that already identify transsexuals as a third sex because the scientific evidence points towards such.

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Originally Posted by Financier

What I choose to see you as or what you choose to see yourself as isn't quite in line with the truth. Like I said, the whole dressing up and living as a girl thing is cool and I like it, but I'd be living a lie if I told myself you really were a woman. I can see you as a woman all I want, but that's not gonna change the scientific/physiological truth.

So...you'd rather me just close my eyes to who/what you really are and live my life in denial? You'd rather me call myself straight instead of bisexual or gay? I don't know where y'all are getting this stuff from, but the point my words have been nothing but me stating that I'm not gonna lie to myself. In fact, you CAN'T lie to yourself because subconsciously, you know the truth. If you have a problem with me not lying to myself, then your problem isn't with me....you have an internal issue of your own that you need to work on.

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We are women through and through, you just aren't capable of accepting that. So, since you don't lie, if your friends were to ask about your porn collection would you tell them you watch gay/trans porn? Do you openly identify to the real world around you as gay or is this just the gospel of the anonymous 'Financier'?

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Originally Posted by Financier

What I choose to see you as or what you choose to see yourself as isn't quite in line with the truth. Like I said, the whole dressing up and living as a girl thing is cool and I like it, but I'd be living a lie if I told myself you really were a woman. I can see you as a woman all I want, but that's not gonna change the scientific/physiological truth.

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There is plenty of scientific/biological theories to prove otherwise. You don't have the "scientific/physiological truth", it's just a theory you're choosing to go with, I choose to go with another.

All of this is moot. This is a website that mainly featured transgendered women. It's not open for debate, the whole "Am I gay?", "Am I bi" or "is a tgirl a real girl" has been done to death. You're entitled to your opinions but I don't want to hear it on this forum, you can take it elsewhere if you can't get with the ethos of this forum and the girls on this site.

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Originally Posted by Financier

I have no issues whatsoever, so the pseudo-psychological stuff isn't going to work with me. I just choose to face the truth about what I'm engaging in rather than lie to myself about it by convincing myself a person is something they aren't. Last time I checked, if I'm having sex with someone with a dick and an asshole, its homosexual sex, no matter what the person identifies themselves as. People thinking the way you do is why we have so many men running around, fucking trannies and each other, and still telling the world they're straight.

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Huh...different name same bullshit I see.....

What are you taking gay trolling on the road now? So how many born again gays have you recruited then huh? How many have seen the light?

Yeah your post are like a finger print no matter where you crawl from with your
"Pseudo" this..."Pseudo" that. All while posting bullshit in the same breath.

In your world "Pseudo science" is AKA "I wont read a book" Which I guess is an easy way to dismiss anything valid.

But if you wanna classify as an ignorant homo then go right ahead. Indy has other plans.....They all require common sense though.

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Originally Posted by Indy24

Huh...different name same bullshit I see.....

What are you taking gay trolling on the road now? So how many born again gays have you recruited then huh? How many have seen the light?

Yeah your post are like a finger print no matter where you crawl from with your
"Pseudo" this..."Pseudo" that. All while posting bullshit in the same breath.

In your world "Pseudo science" is AKA "I wont read a book" Which I guess is an easy way to dismiss anything valid.

But if you wanna classify as an ignorant homo then go right ahead. Indy has other plans.....They all require common sense though.

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Born again? Seen the light? Negro....I'm not even religious.

I'm not even gonna bother debating with you because you're nothing but a guy who likes to get fucked in the ass and still running around claiming he's straight. So apparently, the truth of my words was that ether that made your soul burn slow.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

There is plenty of scientific/biological theories to prove otherwise. You don't have the "scientific/physiological truth", it's just a theory you're choosing to go with, I choose to go with another.

All of this is moot. This is a website that mainly featured transgendered women. It's not open for debate, the whole "Am I gay?", "Am I bi" or "is a tgirl a real girl" has been done to death. You're entitled to your opinions but I don't want to hear it on this forum, you can take it elsewhere if you can't get with the ethos of this forum and the girls on this site.

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Did you just say that a THEORY proves your nonsensical views of the trans community? The views that fuel your denial, I mean. That is an oxymoron. A theory isn't even a fact, so how can it PROVE anything? I'm gonna need you, guys like you and these trannies to get their knowledge up before debating with a intellectual powerhouse life myself.

uh oh:eek:

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Originally Posted by Financier

Born again? Seen the light? Negro....I'm not even religious.

I'm not even gonna bother debating with you because you're nothing but a guy who likes to get fucked in the ass and still running around claiming he's straight. So apparently, the truth of my words was that ether that made your soul burn slow.

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Ether was what sent your remedial ass packing from the other site as most would recall, and can't say that even your kind misses your silly ass either.... So now you wanna post in here as if you'll fair differently? LOL I doubt it, so don't unpack. Lets set the poll at 24-48 hrs.

See... you can't debate anybody when you can't even comprehend anything beyond "Pee Pee's" and "Wee Wee's" So tell me another one son...

Lmao @ so don't unpack. Damn!!..Financier you just got shitted on. I just love this shiggity.

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Originally Posted by Financier

Did you just say that a THEORY proves your nonsensical views of the trans community? The views that fuel your denial, I mean. That is an oxymoron. A theory isn't even a fact, so how can it PROVE anything? I'm gonna need you, guys like you and these trannies to get their knowledge up before debating with a intellectual powerhouse life myself.

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No you moron, I stated that what YOU claimed was "scientific/physiological truth" was nothing more than a theory or a bunch of theories and there are other theories out there.

"A theory isn't even a fact, so how can it PROVE anything?" - my point exactly, you fuckwit.

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Originally Posted by vidman

In my experiences, when I do show a girl respect, she still disrespects me in the utmost way. Perfect example....the situation I just dealt with from a certain girl in DC (you know who). I don't think it matters with you girls Amber. You all are so jaded by the industry until your sense of normal communication and relationships is skewed. You girls think that all men are the guys that call your phone looking to P4P. I can only speak for myself and my experiences. I can honestly say that I have NEVER disrespected a woman in my life! There is not one thread on here with me dogging or disrespecting a single woman. Even those threads where a girl is snapping on me, I never retaliated with disrespect.

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I have to admit this senario is one I've seen and heard the most. Many women in the insdustry do get jaded and they do tend have a skewed view. But then again we who are not in the industry can not fathom the amount of assholes they have to deal with on a regular basis. I mean for some men they do begin as the most gentlemanly and repectful men on the planet to get close to a woman only to treat her like shit once they have achieved their goal of "fucking" a pornstar. I've seen it with Tgirls and Genetic Girls.


P.S. Why does every thread posted always go off on some tangent? It's so hard to stay on topic.

I would why wouldn't I