Oh trust that we come in contact with and get tho know on a personal level way more ts woman than you do lol.it is my roommates job after all to shoot these lovely ladies lol.
For the record, yes my Saturday night is boring smh
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Sadly enough Jazze is not the first nor will he be the last. You would think that after a certain level of success these men and women would declare themselves but it all comes back to wanting to be seen as accepted in social/professional circles mostly. This thread is a perfect example of the divergent opinions of the TG woman and those of us who admire them privately or openly. I find it really difficult to understand why we can't just agree to disagree as opposed to challenging and somewhat demeaning banter amongst those of us who chose to associate with the elements of the TG world. "No we can't all just get along..." but damn we cant even exist without casting aspersions...:cool:
Whatever happens in the dark always comes to the light i guess that one got past more than a few of you lol. Ive not seen such a toxic mix of shame, self hate, lust and frankly a misogynistic outlook in a long time. Just cause you lust after transwomen doesn't mean you get a free pass at treating them accessories or even less than that.
Uh because this should be an accepting community for trans issues, and all most of the guys here want to do is not accept trans issues, and glorify instances in which they would gladly kill a trans woman. You only care to stand up for trans women from the confines of jerking off behind a computer, and even then you demand that we expect nothing but being treated like shit from you.
Thankfully black people got better treatment from white people wanting to help blacks attain rights, or else blacks would still be out picking cotton.
[QUOTE=Ms Remy M;49475]Uh because this should be an accepting community for trans issues, and all most of the guys here want to do is not accept trans issues, and glorify instances in which they would gladly kill a trans woman. You only care to stand up for trans women from the confines of jerking off behind a computer, and even then you demand that we expect nothing but being treated like shit from you.
Thankfully black people got better treatment from white people wanting to help blacks attain rights, or else blacks would still be out picking cotton.[/QUOT
Makes me think of the truth behind the statement that some of the best white supremacists are not white themselves.
Since I'm the only one who referenced that I feel the need to clarify. "Me, myself, and I," in no way think its right to kill anyone for putting someone on blast. A good ass whipping maybe, but death, no. I was just saying it happens and its a dangerous game to play with people that are pressured or willing.
Amber spoke on more positive trans stories, but whats the news we always get from trans women? "Someone was fooled and he killed her, Someone famous was outed, Someone was busted for prostitution." Reality is trans women, especially "mothers", need to set a better example for the girls they guide and lead them on a better path. I'll sum the point im trying to make up by saying the words "sheep" and "media".
I love women period...gg and trans, but Remy you need to realize you've stepped into a women's world, and these are regular women problems babe. Congrats.....your just as unhappy as most women are LOL.
Respectfully, you should do yourself a big favour and stop associating with such people...
People have no right to make anchors of themselves and weigh you down like that... They're smothering and stifling your manliness in a very real way!
Find some resolve and cut yourself loose... I'm not saying you need to fuck 'em all off rudely and provocatively, but ease yourself outta there and live your life manfully; you, and no one else, should answer to zombies!
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How about you set a better example for ts attracted men instead of condoning and making excuses for their dl behavior.
You don't see the viscous cycle of predatory men and jaded ts woman?
Y'all wonder why some girls prostitute? How many of you desire an open honest relationship with a ts vs. a sexual romp? Judging by the responses on this thread alone not many.so she should be a guys secret play thing for free?? Lmaaooo
LOL very true on the cycle and good points, but Amber you gotta remember a mass of men just dont commit period. Thats been an age old problem. I'm still down for a sexual "romp" (HAhaHAHAHAHA) if I like a chick though. I be like, girl lets have a "sexual romp" LMAO. I needed time to progress though. I understand it hurts because it directly affects you, but I needed time to figure out who I was. I can only allow the next man the same.
Smh...so in the mean time while he figures out who he is its doesn't matter how many ts he indirectly hurts? his feelings mean more than ours?
Its sad that only one man has spoken out in our favor and defence.that only one man gets it.to me that's a real man.the only kind of man I want to deal with.
never said you were wrong for feeling how you feel and i never said they were right for carrying it that way, and to be honest I dont feel the need to defend you because you seem to hold your own very well. I was just speaking on the situation. I dont value you feelings any less than anyone elses, and I never said it was ok to hurt yours either, but if a DL dude chooses to stay DL, it shouldnt take long for a girl to figure that out. It's just as many fucked up guys out there that will take you anywhere openly and still play you for whatever reason they deem fit. I was just saying some people have a good chance of changing and need time...never said you had to deal with it or wait.
Stop using MTO and WSHH as your news sources and try using trans advocacy news sources and you'll find all manner of positive news daily. See you only care to look for the sensationalism of trans issues and not the actual hard work being done every day to push for acceptance and outreach that is far more plentiful online.
lol You are clueless if you think I look to men for happiness, I'm completely happy and that comes from my inner self. A man would be lucky to lick the mud off my motorcycle boots, is how much I care to do anything or look for anything from misogynistic men. There is nothing a man could do for me that I don't do for myself even better already. You really have no idea who Ms Remy M is and what I'm about. I'm standing up for the civil rights our trans women issues, not personally complaining about my own relationship experiences. I've never once entertained a DL person in my presence. What exactly are you saying is regular women problems? Being told that trans women can never be taken home to family and friends? Trans women being told that they should die because they are talking about their own personal sex life? It's funny because guys don't have their lives threatened when they talk about the women they fuck. Hell, even genetic women aren't threatened with death. You see anyone talking about killing Tiger Woods mistresses, how about Kobe Bryant mistress, anyone talking about killing them? Women attained rights legally long ago that trans women are still fighting for in the work place, in the medical community, in school. Do you really know anything that you are talking about or are you just talking out the side of your neck.
ok i did pick up an air of audacity when reading a few replies...... I'm thinking dude you just told a transwoman you know transwomen better or as well they do because ..wait for it....wait for it...I know alot of escorts!! Wouldnt you think if thats your primary view of their lives your take might be a lil warped?
HAHAHA really though? Dont forget I use TMZ mainly -_______-. You seemed to have completely overlooked my earlier point when I told you most of teh world was uneducated in regards to this lifestyle. There should be a bigger push to make those stories mainstream, instead of the girl who went to jail for injecting concrete. I deal with trans women in more ways than backpage/craigslist thanks. Whats up with the insults? "Regular women problems" referred to men not wanting to claim women period, finding a man that wants to do more than show up and fuck. Had nothing to do with you being gg or TS, being below anyone, or being killed. I never spoke on you needing a man so I have no clue where that came from or about you entertaining a DL dude. I only spoke on some guys that are DL need time to make a major life-changing decision. You'll pop off at the mouth like its so damn easy to just up and leave all your friends/family behind just because they might not agree. I've already passed that mark for myself so I know how hard it is. Why are we talking about trans rights when I said we needed more positive leaders instead of so many pointing these girls in the direction of prostitution? That wasnt pointing the finger at you, but you seem to have taken offense to it. As far as the girls getting threatened or killed, YES THAT"S TRUE. That's not talking out the side of my neck, (whatever that is). The black community is not very accepting of that lifestyle, no matter how much money you make. I've been in management oersonally witnessed "certain people" not get the job or lose it, because others werent comfortable working with them when they found out. So yes, guys go that extra mile to not get caught. Not saying its ok, but I just was saying these girls put theyre life on teh line when they do those things.
Omg, just stop it! Not every man who openly dates a ts woman leaves or losses his family.For some this maybe be a possible reality for sure but for most I imagine people will eventually come around or not care.
You guys talk about this shit like it's the red scare.Stop buying into the hysteria.I've meet a few friends/family.Were there a few awkward questions here and there? Hell yea lol but I have yet to experience any drama, disrespect or disownment (I made that word up lol) towards my male friends/lovers or myself.
To be honest I don't believe your statement that people are getting passed up on jobs frequently because they are gay,ts or ts attracted.I personally know more lgbt people with jobs than I know those without.I'm sure I can find statistics if you want them.You probably have the same likely hood to be passed up for being black as being gay.
How about you stop making excuses for dl men and start giving reasons why theyt should be open....im going to wait (literally).....
Don't talk about ts rights or what the ts community should do when you can't even.claim a girl openly or encourage others to stop treating ts woman as play things.you sound fucking silly even trying to do so...much like the peope who always complain about the state of the US but never votes or exercise any of their political rights as a citizen
Yooo why is this even a debate tho....
Can yall niggas really not see how fucked up it is to tell someone that its only ok for yall to hang and have sex as long as no one knows about it because of what they are?!?!
Cant believe that this something yall think is ok.smh....shaking my goddamn head.niggas aint shit
SMH how about I've been giving reasons in several threads for them to be open and how it feels like a burden being lifted when the discussion comes up. Just because I'm more compassionate than you in regards, and willing to listen to what they have to say, I'm accepting of their behavior in how they treat women? NO, but that's a decision that they have to make and you dont just make it overnight. Your right, everybody I told was pretty accepting other than a few that I dont really fuck with anymore anyway, but 90% of that shit is mental and its just a hard decision to make. There would been no hope for me if I got constantly bashed everytime I said I was scared of gettin caught or that I liked TS in the past. But you'll are no better for degrading that person right back...all that good shit you speak falls on deaf ears the way you'll communicate it. As far as the job goes, I have TS friends, an aunt in human resources, a VP immediate family member, and being management myself, that all say the same about how often this happens. No one cares what the numbers are because the fact is the shit gets swept under the rug and whatever numbers you find arent real. No they wont "say" they fired you for being gay, but they will put you under a microscope until they find a reason to get rid of you. We still have a long way to go as far as tolerance here.
Yea it sounds real fucked up, and yes some of them are fucked up yea, but most are just scared. Being black, I've went through this several times with white girls when I was a little younger, but I dont bear any hatred or ill will for them feeling that way. In the end, a lot of them just dont have the courage or strength, which makes those such admirable qualities. There are still plenty of racist around that will never change their views/opinions, but I also see a more tolerant generation coming up below us so apparently the message being spoken from my generation seems to be a good one. We just live in fucked up times, and though change will never be immediate, I'm just happy to know its headed in the right direction.
Sounds like a crock of shit. Sure any employee may get fired behind what was really a personal preference, but at the end of the day if the employee is fucking up then that is their fault, not their gender identity or sexuality fault.
A person that says to reject statistical science and solely rely on anecdotal evidence is as foolish as the Republicans claiming that global warming isn't real and that drilling and mining doesn't effect the environment. They are really just more concerned with getting their own point across, and want to dismiss any and all facts.
yes remy. thats my point. a lot people arent accepting of that type of person and they get fired over shit that they would normally let go for someone else. And statistical evidence is BULLSHIT. Using a group of 10,000 to represent 100 million? 1 in 10 people feel blah blah blah. IDK if youve taken the class, but the results are skewed in, not all, but most studies. Statistics are in no way facts. If you disagree Remy that's cool, but of course imma try to make my point.
I find your premise laughable. You're on a Black Tgirl Porn Blog expecting to find nirvana and acceptance to all your issues...:confused: Just because you cute don't mean I or anyone else has to agree with you or your 'roomie/friend'! We are all entitled to our opinions and you are starting to sound like the 'angry black woman' who finds no peace because she refuses to promote it. I hope this is only a phase for you because you were remarkably level headed in the past and rarely ranted like this. Maybe you've changed...we haven't chatted in a while so i'm not sure.
You assume I am only supporting trans women 'from the confines of jerking off behind a computer' but that's a hell of a lie. My family employs gay and transgendered staff and has promoted & judged TG Balls... among other things. Be careful about your assumptions as I may be behind a computer as I type this message but when I log off, I AM THE BOSS and make decisions that support families, friends and employees. One day maybe you'll be blessed enough to have that perspective;).
I'm not expecting to find nirvana, just common sense and human decency lol things that go over people heads until they are the one being offended. I'm not an angry black woman, I'm just a woman that demands respect and is not scared to state my opinions. If you can't take opinions you shouldn't be on this forum, go hire an escort that will only tell you what you want to hear. There is a reason no models come on here to have casual conversation with you guys, because they see how you guys really think of them and don't want anything to do with guys on here unless it is making them money.
uh huh, and I'm the Queen of England, see since you are all anonymous there really is no accountability on your part. In all the years of being on here this is the first time you've said such a thing, so it comes off like the person saying whatever it takes to be 'right'. But you certainly can prove your words and take a picture of yourself cutting those checks for your LGBT employees at this mysterious job, just like the girls do for their confirmation photos lol Truly it would be awesome if your 'family' is operating such a business, though it seems odd you would not point this out in the many instances in which guys claim trans/gay people can't get jobs or men are fired for being associated with trans/gay people. For the record, I already do those things.
Jazze Pha getting busted out about, fuels good debates. This thread has some great points and of course some bull.