It's not about bottom vs top/verse anymore...

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Originally Posted by Indy24

Well I most apologize since I wasn't aware that Bottom/top/verse were exclusive to the gay community but in my defense TS have been around just as long as they have considering that we can't have the Y before getting the X first. But for the sake of argument lets just call it "pegging" for now LOL!

The difference between you and the others I spoke of are that you, don't seem to carry the same bias.

You had a goal and you went through with it....no one was harmed during the process and you don't come off as better than anyone else.

That said even if someone wanted you to top before you fully transitioned I certain that you would've handled the situation respectfully.

On the same note I've never met a tgirl that has rejected oral sex. Sure not all of them indulge in topping. But things like that should disgussed well before any sexual encounters to begin with.

For the record this thread wasn't meant to attack anyone. And I'll be the first to admit that it isn't an exact science.

But it does explain a lot of the rash comments I get from people who should no better.

F.Y.I. A genetic woman's vaginal lips or Labia majora and minora are made from the same skin tissues as a tgirls scrotum. So what's wrong with indulging in either?

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Yeah, the deal with the terms is that the trans and gay community often
borrow each others language. And nothing will get a stealth girl in trouble
quicker than knowing / using those terms. :eek:

I try, hope that I succeed in being respectful to all those that I come in
contact with. As Jesse Jackson said "Let's disagree, without being disagreable".

I also don't buy into a trans-hierarchy; non. pre, post. I don't feel that any
of those categories are better than, or worse than.

If someone had wanted me to insert my penis into them, I don't think that I
phsysiologically would have been able to rise to the occasion, especially after
HRT and the orchiechtomy.

Then too it seems like it was a different era that I transitioned in, an analog
versus a digital era. A time of cassettes, vinyl and DARPANet, not cd's, .mp3's
and the Internet.

Back then guys wanted to penetrate, more-so than be penetrated. It's
neither a ggod nor bad thing, but rather a trans-evolution, and I'm glad to
be around to see it evolve, as people became more comfortable and fluid with
their sexuality.

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Originally Posted by Indy24

For the record this thread wasn't meant to attack anyone. And I'll be the first to admit that it isn't an exact science.

But it does explain a lot of the rash comments I get from people who should no better.

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Oh, and by no means did I taken it as an attack thread, but on the Internet since there are no vsual cues as we have IRL, people often mis-percieve things.

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I think one thing to recognize is that trans women aren't black and white. So spreading them into only 2 gorups is unrealistic. I fall between the two groups. I enjoy masturbation, but I dont like fucking, to me they're different.


I think that you shouldn't approach a woman expecting certain things from them because we aren't all the same. And you shouldn't look down on them if they dont want to use a part of their body simply because of how they feel. I've always been really annoyed by this with men because I in my view, i'd think most men would almost assume a girl feels this way. Why would someone who wants to get their penis cut off want to actively participate in fucking you and ect. Which OBVIOUSLY isn't always the case, but at least that's what'd Id' think unless told otherwise. lol


BUt either way, not all tgirls are created equally. :)

Congratulations on a thought-provoking thread, Indy24. My opinion of you is changing. Sorry I don't have anything to add, however. Carry on ...

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Originally Posted by MrF

Congratulations on a thought-provoking thread, Indy24.

My opinion of you is changing.....

Carry on ...

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Concurs.

Me-thinks he has hired a PR firm.

http://www.writtenbysumer.com/blog/w...9/pr-firm1.jpg

:D

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Originally Posted by Indy24

For me it's a stand against a perception based of a ignorance.

A man getting pleasure from his ass will not prevent him from scoring a winning touchdown, becoming a war hero, or any other manly characteristics people can come up with.

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BAM!!!!! Exactly!!!!! Indy, I feel you whole heartedly. Trust me, I understand your points quite clearly.

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Originally Posted by peggygee

I will admit that I subscribe to a binary definition of gender; male, female.

I remember when I was transitioning and feeling like I was caught in the
Twilight Zone, between the two.

I also recall after my GCS urgery that my parents were almost as glad as
me, as they were concerned about the perils and obstacles that i might
encounter remaining pre op.

Having said that, I will quote a West African parable "That which you eat,
doesn't make me fat.

It is not my peronality or disposition to cast aspersions upon anyone about
the choices they make with their bodies, or who with, and how they have
sex.

I can, and have only chosen that which was right fro me.

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....and that which is right for you is all that matters. Amen Peggy.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

She's still fine after all these years.

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Has anyone seen the black production called N-Secure? It has Bernadette Stanis in it. She looks great. It's at the RedBox. Great movie. It's about a brotha who has everything going for him, CEO/owner of a tech company, huge house on the hill, nice cars, etc, etc. But despite all that he has, he's insecure as hell and abuses his girlfriends. Accusing them of cheating, giving them timelines to be home from work. Good movie, check it out.

Damn. That sounds like one of those movies that isn't too bad but never comes to prominence.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

Damn. That sounds like one of those movies that isn't too bad but never comes to prominence.

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That's absolutely the case. Very good movie but it's like a Tyler Perry movie when he first started producing. It has prominent actors and actresses in it. The cute light skinned girl that plays in "The Game" series. The young fine ass actress who looks like a young Cicely Tyson. Quite a few actors and actresses that play prominent roles in other movies/productions. Check it out. Guarantee you'll like the movie.