So in the past month or 2 since ive been gone...

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Originally Posted by thegreat1

I dont have a dog in the race either. And yeah me and sasha are cool, but the points i made were things that came to my mind before that whole beef even started. And i guess i dont have such an inflated ego to think MY opinion is the one or im gonna be disrespectful and start calling people 'poopie faces' like a 5 year old lol. Especially when they only THINK you dont know some of the same things you know. But hey, im done with the whole thing. And the next time i feel like not conforming, ima speak my mind again. If what i say doesnt physically harm you, your family or block your money, then who cares.

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You "know" nothing. You were entirely incorrect and not man enough to admit it or apologize (again) but continue with your tantrums and mantras that you somehow think you're not conforming and that you're some sort of rebel or free speaker because of that? You're not - you're just someone talking SHIT.

This is a pretty free forum where people are pretty much allowed to discourse at will but when you start insulting me or my company with lies, then it's time to leave.

I've asked you once, there's the door, take it and cool off - come back when you have better manners or lose the chip on your shoulder.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

You "know" nothing. You were entirely incorrect and not man enough to admit it or apologize (again) but continue with your tantrums and mantras that you somehow think you're not conforming and that you're some sort of rebel or free speaker because of that? You're not - you're just someone talking SHIT.

This is a pretty free forum where people are pretty much allowed to discourse at will but when you start insulting me or my company with lies, then it's time to leave.

I've asked you once, there's the door, take it and cool off - come back when you have better manners or lose the chip on your shoulder.

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Dude, do you know me personally? If not, you dont know who or what i know. And did you happen to read where i said, 'im NOT trying to place blame on seanchai'. Bet you didnt. My thoughts were on the list put out by Urban X, the company that you ARENT affiliated with. So quote my WHOLE post and show me where i insulted you. OR just admit you still in your feelings about our last run-in, which i have completely let go. And lets not speak about 'manners' dude.

And with regards to being 'man' enough to admit i was wrong, i remember Remy posted in a thread about the difference between a CD, a TV and a TS. You decided to 'correct' her but turns out YOU were wrong. Where was your admission of being wrong? Riiiiggghhhttt.

As far as me having a chip on my shoulder? Not at all, BUT im not gonna back down because you wanna pull the 'its my board, you shut up when i tell you too' routine. Im a grown ass man. NOBODY can tell me when to be quiet. Now, since im sure you'll ban me for NOT shutting up like you TOLD me to do, just first, quote my original post and show exactly where i insulted or attacked you personally OR your company. Im sure you'll say, 'its my board i dont have to', which is exactly right. Hell, i have directed QUITE a few girls TO your company and you didnt even know it.

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Originally Posted by thegreat1

I dont have a dog in the race either. And yeah me and sasha are cool, but the points i made were things that came to my mind before that whole beef even started. And i guess i dont have such an inflated ego to think MY opinion is the one or im gonna be disrespectful and start calling people 'poopie faces' like a 5 year old lol. Especially when they only THINK you dont know some of the same things you know. But hey, im done with the whole thing. And the next time i feel like not conforming, ima speak my mind again. If what i say doesnt physically harm you, your family or block your money, then who cares.

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lol I didn't call you 'poopie face', I said you were being 'bullheaded' which is a euphemism for stubborn.

No one is saying that only 1 opinion matters, just that knowing the whole story holds more credit, than that of one biased to one side of said story. I still don't see how this was ever an argument at all, I said that if you are a performer and want to be considered for Urban X submit your own nomination, as Madison did, not rely on somebody you've openly refused to work with to nominate you. Go to Urban X site and see what the policy is for being nominated, that's the only opinion that truly matters.

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Originally Posted by thegreat1

Dude, do you know me personally? If not, you dont know who or what i know. And did you happen to read where i said, 'im NOT trying to place blame on seanchai'. Bet you didnt. My thoughts were on the list put out by Urban X, the company that you ARENT affiliated with. So quote my WHOLE post and show me where i insulted you. OR just admit you still in your feelings about our last run-in, which i have completely let go. And lets not speak about 'manners' dude.

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Your quotes all as inference that I pushed Amber and dropped Sasha, as you were supporting Sasha's pov:

"...if grooby wants to push you as one of their crowned jewels, my most heart felt congratulations and more power to you..."

"we ALL know Seanchai's word as an insider, as well as a producer of content, would carry much more weight than a friend's nomination...even in his post he said he influenced them to change their final list of nominees...that goes to show that does have some influence"

"will your recognition fade because you don't have a big production studio backing you..."

"I was simply giving an observation, which IS a valid one. "

This all posted on a thread (nice to see Stefon hasn't returned since he decided to post 3 threads with my personal info. on it and looking to troll) originally posted with "seanchai/myreal name VS Sasha Strokes".

So here's the point, you were wrong on your points. Look at the other response I just posted on the original thread, I didn't even mention Amber.
Once again, you've just picked up the wrong end of the stick and that's why you stink.

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Originally Posted by raheme

Most of us are all anonymous key strokes in a sea of make believe/fantasy...don't assume I'm just some outsider who knows nothing about "the industry".
Is it reasonable to assume that one person knows everything about every situation that goes on within their industry?
That's not being very objective dear.
I don't frequent other boards and quite frankly my life doesn't revolve around all things porn so I will defer to you with regard to your last statement.

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If you weren't some 'outsider' there would be no need for anonymity, we are not all just a sea of key strokes. If you were to say you were related to Queen Elizabeth don't think for a second I'm going to believe you just because you said it. You have openly stated you haven't met 'in person' any transsexuals, so how much can you know about the behind the scenes day to day transsexual porn industry? No one person knows everything about anything, but we can be realistic. Trust, my life doesn't revolve around porn, this is a job, not my life. The really sad part about this whole issue concerning Urban X, is that all this info is available through googling Urban X, visiting the site, and asking them what to do. I'm not trying to 'assume' you personally dont know anything about this particular issue, just going by your past statements over the last year about your experiences thus far.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Your quotes all as inference that I pushed Amber and dropped Sasha, as you were supporting Sasha's pov:

"...if grooby wants to push you as one of their crowned jewels, my most heart felt congratulations and more power to you..."

"we ALL know Seanchai's word as an insider, as well as a producer of content, would carry much more weight than a friend's nomination...even in his post he said he influenced them to change their final list of nominees...that goes to show that does have some influence"

"will your recognition fade because you don't have a big production studio backing you..."

"I was simply giving an observation, which IS a valid one. "

This all posted on a thread (nice to see Stefon hasn't returned since he decided to post 3 threads with my personal info. on it and looking to troll) originally posted with "seanchai/myreal name VS Sasha Strokes".

So here's the point, you were wrong on your points. Look at the other response I just posted on the original thread, I didn't even mention Amber.
Once again, you've just picked up the wrong end of the stick and that's why you stink.

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Ahhh there's the problem. You ASSUMED i was throwing shots at you. Again, did you NOT see where i put 'im not trying to place blame on seanchai'. You STILL havent acknowledged that statement, have you? And you should know from our prior exchange, when i want to go at you, i got AT you. I dont sneak diss. Not my style.

First, i wasnt trying to infer that you dropped sasha. I know sasha has spoken against grooby and refuses to work with you all. Would i blame you didnt nominate her because of that? NO. I dont fuck with people that dont fuck with me, so i couldnt say you'd be wrong for doing. So no, thats NOT what i meant. Nor was i trying to instigate any type of beef between the two. what i said to amber were honest to goodness words of encouragement. If you can have someone put their resources behind you and its what you really want to do, go for it. And go hard as hell.

Second, you yourself said that you spoke with the people and they revised their list. Had i emailed them, its a good chance it wouldnt make a lick of difference, am i right? So by that definition, your WORD does carry more weight than the average person, correct?

The third item was a question. Notice the tone of it, as well as, the use of the word 'will' in the background.

Lastly, my observation about the list being skewed towards bottoms IS a valid observation. It speaks for itself. Simply because you dont agree doesnt mean i have to go back and say, 'you're right seanchai'. Your opinion is yours, mine is mine. You seem to feel like YOUR opinion is the only one that ever matters.

And i notice you didnt acknowledge where i pointed out that Remy was right instead of you and you didnt be a 'man' and admit that you were wrong. Thats a good lawyering trick, 'dont acknowledge when opposing counsel points out a flaw in your case, just divert the attention elsewhere'.

All in all dude, understand this. When thegreat1 has a problem with you, i will address YOU. If i dont, dont take it personally because its not a shot at you. I dont waste shells on warning shots lol.

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Originally Posted by thegreat1

All in all dude, understand this. When thegreat1 has a problem with you, i will address YOU. If i dont, dont take it personally because its not a shot at you. I dont waste shells on warning shots lol.

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I still believe the points and comments you made as illustrated above, were quite well aimed but if you genuinely weren't aiming them at me, then I apologize for thinking they were, especially in the tone of the OP.
However, for calling you out on wanting to be some sort of maverick/rogue/speaking out, I stand by. You try to hard.
By the way, addressing yourself in first person, really is a show of egotism.
Seanchai has spoken.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

I still believe the points and comments you made as illustrated above, were quite well aimed but if you genuinely weren't aiming them at me, then I apologize for thinking they were, especially in the tone of the OP.
However, for calling you out on wanting to be some sort of maverick/rogue/speaking out, I stand by. You try to hard.
By the way, addressing yourself in first person, really is a show of egotism.
Seanchai has spoken.

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If you felt like i was taking shots at you directly, then i apologize as well. My words were directed at an industry in which some people have been black-balled because they wouldnt conform and that displays favoritism. I know quite a few porn stars and they have all acknowledged that fact. Not saying everyone does it, or it happens all the time, but it has happened.

Either way, im done with this whole episode. And understand this last thing, im a sarcastic ass, so the whole rebel thing was a joke. I do however speak my mind. Buf i dont go out of my way just to be contrarian.

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Originally Posted by thegreat1

Second, you yourself said that you spoke with the people and they revised their list. Had i emailed them, its a good chance it wouldnt make a lick of difference, am i right? So by that definition, your WORD does carry more weight than the average person, correct?

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I know you are speaking with Seanchai regarding this, but I still find it conflicting. How do you know the word of the viewers of porn aren't meaningful to the Urban X people? Unless, you tried to get someone nominated and failed isn't it just speculation? Again, I point to Wendy Williams and Madison as independent performers who ARE nominated. If it worked for them, why to could it not have worked for Sasha had she submitted herself? Blaming the industry and the major players seems incorrect. As you yourself stated, why aren't Mia Isabella and Natalia Coxx on the list, they are backed by a major studio right? Perhaps it's cause they didn't submit themselves to be nominated? I'm not certain, but I do recall Mia being on the list last year...

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

I know you are speaking with Seanchai regarding this, but I still find it conflicting. How do you know the word of the viewers of porn aren't meaningful to the Urban X people? Unless, you tried to get someone nominated and failed isn't it just speculation? Again, I point to Wendy Williams and Madison as independent performers who ARE nominated. If it worked for them, why to could it not have worked for Sasha had she submitted herself? Blaming the industry and the major players seems incorrect. As you yourself stated, why aren't Mia Isabella and Natalia Coxx on the list, they are backed by a major studio right? Perhaps it's cause they didn't submit themselves to be nominated? I'm not certain, but I do recall Mia being on the list last year...

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I agree, I'd say if the fans emailed them then they would make a change. I do no work with Urban X (although I may look into it). It is a fan based award and has fan voting.