change of pace: the ideal man

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Originally Posted by TGirls4Me

So Chanel, what you're saying is that a TGirl wants what every Girl wants and I can appreciate that.

But, as you said some (all sexes) get tired and play the games. The largest obstacle for us men that want a LTR with a Transgendered woman is that tag of "Tranny chaser". I live in San Fran. and there are really no places to go to meet the ladies in a social way. The few places where you can find them are simply the places they go to find a "date" (which I am not against - lol). The minute you walk in you are nothing more then that (for the most part) and it's harder than heck to get them to let their guards down long enough to show that I'm serious about an honest relationship - or a simple dinner date or movie and not just sex. I do understand their position but at the same time how in the world can they expect to find a guy for anything more then sex or a sugar daddy? Even when I meet a girl in a store or walking down the sidewalk and I try to speak to them they either give me a very cold shoulder or want to know if I want a "date".

I've had two LTR's (if you can one year for one and eight months with the other long) that ended because niether of them contributed to the relationship. Not financially or mentally. I paid the rent and food and movies and some clothing and I was supportive of the fact they were both entertainers and pageant girls and encouraged them to be the best. They made good money but it never ended up in the communal pot and this brought on the spats. Then there was of course the occassional "dates" I eventually found out about but hey - I knew that one going in. I'd of just felt better about them had they not lied and said they weren't dating anymore.

So, I think to add to the original question of what do you ladies want I'm asking how do we men get through to the ladies that we're not "tranny chasers" in the sence that we just want sex. I personally want a TGirl for a relationship as I'm no longer interested in GG's and that's my personal preference but how in the world can a guy get a girl to understand that?

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OMG... where have you been all my life? :) Just kidding... since this is a Black Tgirl Forum and I'm Asian, I assuming you wouldn't be interested anyways...

ANYWAY... I travel down to SF quite a bit to visit family and I love going to the Tgirl hangouts just to watch people and chat and [maybe] hookup with someone if the mood strikes. And, I would agree that for the most part, it is pretty tough as a guy walking into a place like Diva's where you're immediately sized up and have a dollar sign placed on you. But, guys are the same way. Invariably, one of the first three questions I'm asked at a place like that is 'Are you working?' followed quickly by, 'How Much?'

Call me old fashioned and perhaps I'm older than I think I am but what ever happened to buying a girl a drink and getting to know her a little before trying to jump into her panties! There are good guys out there... I've met a couple of them who I still correspond with via email from Diva's but they are few and far between. I think some of them should move to Portland though... guys up here have much to learn!

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Originally Posted by GroobyKrissy

OMG... where have you been all my life? :) Just kidding... since this is a Black Tgirl Forum and I'm Asian, I assuming you wouldn't be interested anyways...

ANYWAY... I travel down to SF quite a bit to visit family and I love going to the Tgirl hangouts just to watch people and chat and [maybe] hookup with someone if the mood strikes. And, I would agree that for the most part, it is pretty tough as a guy walking into a place like Diva's where you're immediately sized up and have a dollar sign placed on you. But, guys are the same way. Invariably, one of the first three questions I'm asked at a place like that is 'Are you working?' followed quickly by, 'How Much?'

Call me old fashioned and perhaps I'm older than I think I am but what ever happened to buying a girl a drink and getting to know her a little before trying to jump into her panties! There are good guys out there... I've met a couple of them who I still correspond with via email from Diva's but they are few and far between. I think some of them should move to Portland though... guys up here have much to learn!

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Welcome! By the way, can you play "Slobber Blues on a Skin Flute?" Nice avatar [Damn, you changed it that fast!]!
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Originally Posted by TVSURFER

Welcome! By the way, can you play "Slobber Blues on a Skin Flute?" Nice avatar [Damn, you changed it that fast!]!
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Thanks :) Very interesting threads here :)

I changed it because after looking through a lot of the other threads, it seems like most avatars were pg :) So, I thought I would make mine too :)

Luv me some skin flute :)

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Originally Posted by GroobyKrissy

Thanks :) Very interesting threads here :)

I changed it because after looking through a lot of the other threads, it seems like most avatars were pg :) So, I thought I would make mine too :)

Luv me some skin flute :)

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i dont know about a flute but if u happen to dabble with the oboe let me know...lol!

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

i dont know about a flute but if u happen to dabble with the oboe let me know...lol!

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Well... if you're going to go oboe I suppose you may as well just go the distance and get yourself a nice big bassoon! :p :D

Wait... we are talking about musical instruments here, right?