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Originally Posted by DYNACORD

Remy is right. I personally know a few girls here in town that have lived as a girl for years. They have not had their breast done yet but everything else is and you would think they were a woman. This does'nt make them a TV.They also don't want SRS. But if you suggest they are a TV they would flip out. TV's are men in womens clothes. They are the ones you see in the bars trying to pick up the other TV's or crossdressers. The transgendered girls will have nothing to do with those folks. TS girls put themselves a step ahead of the TV's. Ask any of them.
I personally know Chyna and Remy has spent time with her on their shoot. So, we can both tell you, this person lives as a girl, acts like a girl, smells like a girl and looks like one even though she may not appear as soft as some others. Remy is correct in stating: she is very young and moving towards her physical goals. It does take time and a lot of money. Which some girls get faster than others. For one reason or another. Keep that in mind.
By the way! She is a Transexual. Not a Transvestite.

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I mentioned in a previous thread that i know her as well , and some of her "girlfriends". I have also have met and probably know twice as many TG's( even Buddy Wood stated in one of my posts i know my west coast tgirls, but it goes farther than that) as i have been around the world and have done many studies in my line of work. I have been to places where i have seen you guys say you want to go but have yet to venture. I also know many of the models on this site and have provided seanchai with updated info. By the way Seanchai Paradise is interested in another shoot I will give you her contact info through email.

Since i dont "trick" i dont recieve the fabrications they tell most clients, and I recieve a more insight on these girls most if any dont see. The definiton in which you say a TV is stereotypical. As I have mentioned in a previous thread on what a TV is ( Jess backed me on that one) was accurate.

TV or TS or TG, Labels Labels. Am I colored, Af-American, black, negro. Am I hispanic, latino, latin-american, Am I Oriental, Chinese, Asian-American. Please all labels will confuse anyone. We know this on this site SRS surgery folk get no play on this site. In laymen terms, the girls that have functioning engine under the skirt is the turn-on for us here. The reason SRS folks get no play because they eliminated the only difference from a normal women. Most of us here like the feel of good pussy as well, IMO. It depends on the night if we freak off wit normal girl or a Tran___. BTW, always strap up.

Chyna is a star in the making perfect body slim, small. She probably will get some normal breast to fit her frame and hormone will eventually make her skin soft, including but. It just seems the tone of conversation about being TV(non SRS) was negative. She is always in Top 5 on the site. In closing, Chyna you are the Shznit whatever you do not pull a lil' kim and become to plastic, less is more.

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Originally Posted by iketurner

TV or TS or TG, Labels Labels. Am I colored, Af-American, black, negro. Am I hispanic, latino, latin-american, Am I Oriental, Chinese, Asian-American. Please all labels will confuse anyone. We know this on this site SRS surgery folk get no play on this site. In laymen terms, the girls that have functioning engine under the skirt is the turn-on for us here. The reason SRS folks get no play because they eliminated the only difference from a normal women. Most of us here like the feel of good pussy as well, IMO. It depends on the night if we freak off wit normal girl or a Tran___. BTW, always strap up.

Chyna is a star in the making perfect body slim, small. She probably will get some normal breast to fit her frame and hormone will eventually make her skin soft, including but. It just seems the tone of conversation about being TV(non SRS) was negative. She is always in Top 5 on the site. In closing, Chyna you are the Shznit whatever you do not pull a lil' kim and become to plastic, less is more.

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co sign, this is the best post yet.
we all need to stop labeling people & just accept them for what there are.

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Originally Posted by kilakali

I mentioned in a previous thread that i know her as well , and some of her "girlfriends". I have also have met and probably know twice as many TG's( even Buddy Wood stated in one of my posts i know my west coast tgirls, but it goes farther than that) as i have been around the world and have done many studies in my line of work. I have been to places where i have seen you guys say you want to go but have yet to venture. I also know many of the models on this site and have provided seanchai with updated info. By the way Seanchai Paradise is interested in another shoot I will give you her contact info through email.

Since i dont "trick" i dont recieve the fabrications they tell most clients, and I recieve a more insight on these girls most if any dont see. The definiton in which you say a TV is stereotypical. As I have mentioned in a previous thread on what a TV is ( Jess backed me on that one) was accurate.

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Eh, you do realize most of this post is irrelevant right? Knowing a huge amount of transgendered people does not make a person an authority on the matter, especially considering the 'scientific terminology' references we are talking about. *sigh* I said I would conform my debate to the damned Benjamin Scale even though I don't agree with it, and now you drop any scientific based argument, for the 'Well I know more transgendered people than some other guys argument. lol This isn't a popularity contest, fucking Californian high school bullshit. To me that's the equivalent of 'Well I'm older than you so I'm right and your wrong. It's fucking bull shit. This last post sounds a bit glad-handy to me, and no offense to Jess, but referencing her or any other non qualified professional in the medical field is also a moot point, all that proves is that you share the same opinion. I seriously doubt Jess agrees with your statement, as you are calling her a transvestite by your own standards KilaKali. I quote you here as saying "A TS by fault is a girl that has gone all the way (SRS). " That quote is what I derived my debate (toward you Kilakali) from.

I went looking for the thread you have mentioned, didn't see it, but I did see the one I thought you were referring to http://new.black-tgirls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=814 but I didn't see you make a post anywhere on here. If this is the thread, the situation is totally different as that's a different girl that indeed (going by Dr. B's scale) would fall more inline with the transvestite status.

Now, I'm off to brunch with Schwazenegger, the Dali Lama, Allanah Star, Mr. Armani, Jada Pinkett-Smith, Sexxy Jade, and that guy with the egghead from 'The Office'. :-)

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Originally Posted by Remy757Photog

Eh, you do realize most of this post is irrelevant right? Knowing a huge amount of transgendered people does not make a person an authority on the matter, especially considering the 'scientific terminology' references we are talking about. *sigh* I said I would conform my debate to the damned Benjamin Scale even though I don't agree with it, and now you drop any scientific based argument, for the 'Well I know more transgendered people than some other guys argument. lol This isn't a popularity contest, fucking Californian high school bullshit. To me that's the equivalent of 'Well I'm older than you so I'm right and your wrong. It's fucking bull shit. This last post sounds a bit glad-handy to me, and no offense to Jess, but referencing her or any other non qualified professional in the medical field is also a moot point, all that proves is that you share the same opinion. I seriously doubt Jess agrees with your statement, as you are calling her a transvestite by your own standards KilaKali. I quote you here as saying "A TS by fault is a girl that has gone all the way (SRS). " That quote is what I derived my debate (toward you Kilakali) from.

I went looking for the thread you have mentioned, didn't see it, but I did see the one I thought you were referring to http://new.black-tgirls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=814 but I didn't see you make a post anywhere on here. If this is the thread, the situation is totally different as that's a different girl that indeed (going by Dr. B's scale) would fall more inline with the transvestite status.

Now, I'm off to brunch with Schwazenegger, the Dali Lama, Allanah Star, Mr. Armani, Jada Pinkett-Smith, Sexxy Jade, and that guy with the egghead from 'The Office'. :-)

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I am not from California I am from Sao Paulo Brasil I presently live in California, so I dont know where you got the California High School reference from. If you read correctly I said studies in my line of work. Wow... I wonder what that means? Could he be a scientist? I would and most would say i am a expert on the subject seeing as I have earned my masters in Human Sexuality from Dartmouth College, and my Ph.D. in Anthropology from University of Southern California.

This is the thread I mentioned earlier
http://www.black-tgirls.com/forum/sh...=5119#post5119 this is also the definition I used in my dissertation ( I hope I dont have to explain what that means). I recieved accolades for my work many from the top people in the field. I mentioned Jess only because i doubt you or anyone on here would be familiar with my good friend Dr. Jafari Allen from Yale University. I have worked with him on his book "Once Removed: Queer Alternatives & the Redemption of a transnational Black counter-public". You might want to read it. I assisted him on the section on Black transgender and Black TV's. Then again this is a porn site forum so i shouldnt expect you or anyone else to read it. As i stated before I know Chyna and not from a 1 day or 2 shoot, or a trick who pays to be with her. She is a TV from my study with her.

This forum is turning more in to Hung Angels...lol..you guys on here are really helping me out on my current project.

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Originally Posted by kilakali

I am not from California I am from Sao Paulo Brasil I presently live in California, so I dont know where you got the California High School reference from. If you read correctly I said studies in my line of work. Wow... I wonder what that means? Could he be a scientist? I would and most would say i am a expert on the subject seeing as I have earned my masters in Human Sexuality from Dartmouth College, and my Ph.D. in Anthropology from University of Southern California.

This is the thread I mentioned earlier
http://www.black-tgirls.com/forum/sh...=5119#post5119 this is also the definition I used in my dissertation ( I hope I dont have to explain what that means). I recieved accolades for my work many from the top people in the field. I mentioned Jess only because i doubt you or anyone on here would be familiar with my good friend Dr. Jafari Allen from Yale University. I have worked with him on his book "Once Removed: Queer Alternatives & the Redemption of a transnational Black counter-public". You might want to read it. I assisted him on the section on Black transgender and Black TV's. Then again this is a porn site forum so i shouldnt expect you or anyone else to read it. As i stated before I know Chyna and not from a 1 day or 2 shoot, or a trick who pays to be with her. She is a TV from my study with her.

This forum is turning more in to Hung Angels...lol..you guys on here are really helping me out on my current project.

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Damn, Google :rolleyes: Well at least we are back to the science of things. The Cali reference is regards to the perpetual need to 'name-drop' to feel special, popular, as if still in high school. You don't need to be from Cali to get infected with the mentaility.

Having now seen this thread you've just shown, I must admit I do agree with the statement from that thread, but not the 'only Post-ops being transexuals' in this thread. I do agree knowledge is power and I read a few different science journals so perhaps I shall have the opportunity to read your work yet. There have been great advancements within this field and anything to help the cause is a'ok with me. While I do speak with Chyna often, it has only been since our recent shoot. I can imagine how long your study with her lasted. So the study you mention her being a part of, is that for Professor Allen's (who does have a most impressive and congratulatory profile) book you mentioned or your own peer-reviewed work? I would most whole-heartedly like to read both, the more insight that can be shared for the forum the better. Who better to spread the intelligent works regarding our transgendered individuals than an accredited professional, especially given all the anonymous people who may have little to no real life interaction. Alas, all work and no play of course...

I do recall we started this particular debate referencing Dr. Benjamin and Kinsey, and from that you are saying that you "...mentioned Jess only because i doubt you or anyone on here would be familiar with my good friend Dr. Jafari Allen..." :confused: okay... I'll admit I wasn't aware of his book, but you also don't think we would be familiar with any of the "top people in the field" who you've received accolades from?

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Originally Posted by kilakali

I am not from California I am from Sao Paulo Brasil I presently live in California, so I dont know where you got the California High School reference from. If you read correctly I said studies in my line of work. Wow... I wonder what that means? Could he be a scientist? I would and most would say i am a expert on the subject seeing as I have earned my masters in Human Sexuality from Dartmouth College, and my Ph.D. in Anthropology from University of Southern California.

This is the thread I mentioned earlier
http://www.black-tgirls.com/forum/sh...=5119#post5119 this is also the definition I used in my dissertation ( I hope I dont have to explain what that means). I recieved accolades for my work many from the top people in the field. I mentioned Jess only because i doubt you or anyone on here would be familiar with my good friend Dr. Jafari Allen from Yale University. I have worked with him on his book "Once Removed: Queer Alternatives & the Redemption of a transnational Black counter-public". You might want to read it. I assisted him on the section on Black transgender and Black TV's. Then again this is a porn site forum so i shouldnt expect you or anyone else to read it. As i stated before I know Chyna and not from a 1 day or 2 shoot, or a trick who pays to be with her. She is a TV from my study with her.

This forum is turning more in to Hung Angels...lol..you guys on here are really helping me out on my current project.

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kilakali, after that riposte, I hope it gives pause to those who don't think! Emotion and regional character references had nothing to do with the topic.

Chyna is still a TV!
:cool:

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Originally Posted by TVSURFER

kilakali, after that riposte, I hope it gives pause to those who don't think! Emotion and regional character references had nothing to do with the topic.

Chyna is still a TV!
:cool:

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I think there was perhaps a slight memory lapse to go from the dissertation description of:

"A transvestitie is a man or woman who dresses as the opposite sex for sexual gradification, but is aware of his manhood or her womanhood and content with same. {My own TV description sounds mighty close to this} :eek:
A transexual on the other hand is a person who truly considers themselves trapped in the wrong body and desires and takes all actions necessary to correct their gender dysphoria. That is to say they take hormones, have the medical help needed to reach their goal of transition and in the advance stages live as a woman in the case of a MtF or as a Male in the case of a FtM 24/7. There is as you can see, a major difference between the transvestite and the transexual."

to the much shorter and quite different description of:

"A TS by fault is a girl that has gone all the way (SRS). "

By the way, I'm from California, it was a joke contact L. Ron Hubbard if you need counseling on account of it. j/k

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Originally Posted by Remy757Photog

Damn, Google :rolleyes: Well at least we are back to the science of things. The Cali reference is regards to the perpetual need to 'name-drop' to feel special, popular, as if still in high school. You don't need to be from Cali to get infected with the mentaility.

Having now seen this thread you've just shown, I must admit I do agree with the statement from that thread, but not the 'only Post-ops being transexuals' in this thread. I do agree knowledge is power and I read a few different science journals so perhaps I shall have the opportunity to read your work yet. There have been great advancements within this field and anything to help the cause is a'ok with me. While I do speak with Chyna often, it has only been since our recent shoot. I can imagine how long your study with her lasted. So the study you mention her being a part of, is that for Professor Allen's (who does have a most impressive and congratulatory profile) book you mentioned or your own peer-reviewed work? I would most whole-heartedly like to read both, the more insight that can be shared for the forum the better. Who better to spread the intelligent works regarding our transgendered individuals than an accredited professional, especially given all the anonymous people who may have little to no real life interaction. Alas, all work and no play of course...

I do recall we started this particular debate referencing Dr. Benjamin and Kinsey, and from that you are saying that you "...mentioned Jess only because i doubt you or anyone on here would be familiar with my good friend Dr. Jafari Allen..." :confused: okay... I'll admit I wasn't aware of his book, but you also don't think we would be familiar with any of the "top people in the field" who you've received accolades from?

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Damn you guys make me type more than i want to ( i do enough of this at work...lol). I study every person I come in contact with, I crave to get into psyche. I cant disclose who actually was use as case studies, but Chyna wasnt used she was more for self gratification. As much as i would like to share i would not want to put her personal business on here.
I wasnt saying there is no such thing as pre-ops (my bad choice of wording) there are underlying factors that make up a pre-op. I wont mention it because it would be a dead giveaway from what i gathered from her. Search engines is the brains close friend :D

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Originally Posted by kilakali

Damn you guys make me type more than i want to ( i do enough of this at work...lol). I study every person I come in contact with, I crave to get into psyche. I cant disclose who actually was use as case studies, but Chyna wasnt used she was more for self gratification. As much as i would like to share i would not want to put her personal business on here.
I wasnt saying there is no such thing as pre-ops (my bad choice of wording) there are underlying factors that make up a pre-op. I wont mention it because it would be a dead giveaway from what i gathered from her. Search engines is the brains close friend :D

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Right, I wouldn't ask that of you, I've spoken with her very recently and am well abreast of her current hormonal treatments and such, you're good.