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Originally Posted by nycguy

That is so true! I went to school with a guy who after years of being straight decided to do gay porn. He even won award for his work. Soon as one of our mutual associates found out about him, it hit the grapevine like internet porn! There is no fence riding on sexuality in the black community. If you gay, you hang with gays and girls. If not you hang with the fellas. There is no middle ground there. So anyone who is outed is marked for life. You can never live down a dick in your mouth! So it's not surprising that most guys that like TS dont want any evidence.

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I think these same guys that are worried about what community will think is over-rated. People may talk about this issue for a little while, but other shit will pop up for them to talk about and soon it will be "yesterday's news" like everything else. I'm about as far as one can get from the "black norm", when people see me they may ask a few questions here and there if they don't already know me or haven't seen me before, but I'm not being stigmatized by the community.

At the end of the day, it's no big deal really. No more than "You" make it. Life is too short to spend living it the way "others" think you should live your life. I don't only hang with "gays and girls" I know lots of straight guys and they don't shun me. "...marked for life" what is this the Scarlet Letter or something? lol It's not like you are going to be kicked out of your neighborhood, prevented from shopping at the mall, or drinking from water fountain if it's found out that you like TS. Time to grow up fellas.

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Originally Posted by Remy757Photog

I think these same guys that are worried about what community will think is over-rated. People may talk about this issue for a little while, but other shit will pop up for them to talk about and soon it will be "yesterday's news" like everything else. I'm about as far as one can get from the "black norm", when people see me they may ask a few questions here and there if they don't already know me or haven't seen me before, but I'm not being stigmatized by the community.

At the end of the day, it's no big deal really. No more than "You" make it. Life is too short to spend living it the way "others" think you should live your life. I don't only hang with "gays and girls" I know lots of straight guys and they don't shun me. "...marked for life" what is this the Scarlet Letter or something? lol It's not like you are going to be kicked out of your neighborhood, prevented from shopping at the mall, or drinking from water fountain if it's found out that you like TS. Time to grow up fellas.

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Sounds good if it works for you! For those more closely associated with the "black norm" things are different. Every persons situation is unique to them. There is no across the board solution to how we want to be percieved or treated by those whose opinons we value. Those in a position to say fuck em all! cool! but most are not as inclined.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

... performing on-screen for us?

We have such a hard time getting black male models. I get maybe 10 emails a week from wannabes ... 2-3 respond and if we do actually get one into a shoot, most of the time he can't get hard? I really want to produce black-on-black TS porn but almost every photographer has experienced a worse no-show rate, or the guy turns up and can't get it hard enough to fuck the girl (and if you read the emails they send before hand ... you'd think they could go all night).

PK put out a call last night after 2 performers failed ... on CL looking for 1 black male for a casting call ... he had 50 replies but none of them wanted their faces to appear on camera !?!

So why can't black males get it right on camera?

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Dating TS is considered gay in the black community and is very frowned down upon. There is almost little tolerance, even in the gay community itself. At least its like that here in the south where I have had a horrible time trying to recruit black males for scenes. They just do not want to be seen on camera in order to maintain their privacy but they are the most persistent ethnicity that are after tgirls. It's odd, fustrating, but very real. This is something that I've noticed as a black man on this side of the game.

Some of the solo gals have had plenty of luck in getting male talent but they are rarely repeat performers. The trick may also be that other black males do not want to be video tapped by another black male (i.e. me) who can identify them in public but don't mind being taped by another t-girl or filming with the TS alone (POV video, tripod video, etc.)

For me it's an issue of job security. I work in secure buildings and if I was to ever show up in a video, my security clearance would probably be revoked. I could give a fuck about sucking the girls dick and fucking her on cam. And i could give a fuck about peoples opinions, as they are not enjoying the tremendous thrill of sex with a hot tgirl.

If I could obscure my face an tattoo, I'd do this in a heart beat. I understand how lame that is tho, it takes some of the connection and personality from a vid when you can't see both performers faces.

As for Natalia Coxx... damn if I lived near Vegas I'd take the risk on that one.

I have shot some B/G videos for content work and have found that alot of Black guys don't really like the presence of another guy shooting a video, female they are ok sometimes, and once they realize that this is work, not just a free fuck, they can't perform, not many black guys want a camera 2 foot off their ass with hot lights beaming down on them, I would have maybe 1 or 2 other people with b and c cameras rolling or just a second camera and a still camera going at the same time, telling them to change positions, stop, start etc, not many guys are up for that, (no pun intended).
Now these guys that claim being outed, well if they wore a mask and didn't have any tats that you could tell who they are, they shouldn't have a problem with that, the pressure is performing for the camera where there are expectations beyond their own sexual gratification, you got to put up or shut up time, your on the directors cue not yours and most guys aren't feeling that, becomes too much like work.
Now I think if they were doing a POV they may not have the performace problems because they don't have a boss expecting them to perform the scene, and they are able to find more sexual gratification from it.

Good points you mention there RoninVa

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Originally Posted by seanchai

... performing on-screen for us?

We have such a hard time getting black male models. I get maybe 10 emails a week from wannabes ... 2-3 respond and if we do actually get one into a shoot, most of the time he can't get hard? I really want to produce black-on-black TS porn but almost every photographer has experienced a worse no-show rate, or the guy turns up and can't get it hard enough to fuck the girl (and if you read the emails they send before hand ... you'd think they could go all night).

PK put out a call last night after 2 performers failed ... on CL looking for 1 black male for a casting call ... he had 50 replies but none of them wanted their faces to appear on camera !?!

So why can't black males get it right on camera?

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Real simple my man...there is NO MONEY in TS Porn for black men...shit men in general.

A black dude does TS porn and gets black balled (no pun intended) from traditional porn...

Risk my career for $150 (if that much), nah...at least the girls are getting paid...

Most white/asian TS won't touch a black dude, unlike black ts (they will fuck any white guy with enough cash) so the opportunities for a white guy doing TS porn are more exponential and abound than those for a black guy...

As far as the going limp shit, IDK about that, maybe you're just getting black bottoms posing as tops in order to make some cash...

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The flipside to your "case against black men" could very easily be, why not just accomodate the dudes and let them wear a mask or face covering...what the hell are you looking at their faces for? I mean, if it really is that hard why not let em put a mask on so long as there dicks stay hard and they do fuck all night? I just don't get all this shit...simple solutions on both ends...everybody's happy...

Wanted to add, if you're a guy wanting to do porn with GG you will totally blow that chance with a lot of the GG porn stars, most of them will not knowingly do a scene with a guy who does Gay or TS porn. there is a small few who will but for the most part once it's out that is what you do they will not work with you...... period
now there are some guys who have started out in gay porn and transition to females, but they are very few and a lot of the straight porn guys will not do a scene with a female you may have worked with, usually the GG who careers are on the wane or newbie will do the crossover guys for the most part.