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As I stated in that thread, I didn't agree with MrKnockOut being banned.

So you are you really suggesting that the owner of this site ban himself for calling MrKnockOut a "cunt"? That sounds ludicrous.

Just because you only know trans through paying for their time, does not mean that all the transexuals on this planet fall into that same category. All guys should broaden their horizons, get from behind the keyboard and go out and meet the girls in the real world and perhaps then, guys will meet some trans that do not escort. However; if a guy only plan on treating trans as sex objects, expect to be treated like an ATM. No one is disputing that there are trans that escort, I said ALL trans are not escorts.

You hide behind the keyboard. Nearly every single trans on this site has shown their face (and more :) ) and welcomes the members to know them.

He needed the Boot Good Job Remy.:D

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Originally Posted by Remy757Photog

As I stated in that thread, I didn't agree with MrKnockOut being banned.

So you are you really suggesting that the owner of this site ban himself for calling MrKnockOut a "cunt"? That sounds ludicrous.

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Didn't you think that wasn't appropriate for him to call him that? You're a moderator, right? That has to be moderated is all I'm saying; you want trans to get respect, members can't get respect, but the boss and you can make opinionated, derogatory judgements with name calling and nothing is said? That's a different type of ludicrous, in my opinion! You didn't come on and say anything! You usually do! I having nothing else to say!
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Originally Posted by TVSURFER

Didn't you think that wasn't appropriate for him to call him that? You're a moderator, right? That has to be moderated is all I'm saying; you want trans to get respect, members can't get respect, but the boss and you can make opinionated, derogatory judgements with name calling and nothing is said? That's a different type of ludicrous, in my opinion! You didn't come on and say anything! You usually do! I having nothing else to say!
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I've scan read your blurb on the page before and this is two seperate things.

In MY language, it was appropriate to call MrKnockout a "cunt" as he was behaving as one. He wasn't banned, he was given a cooling off period of 2 weeks (or maybe 4, I can't remember).

"Occult" has trolled this forum on a number of occassions and despite being warned within that thread, he continued to refer to the girls as "he" and get on that old horse. It is especially in-appropriate on this thread because of the topic but if it was presented in a non-demeaning manner, with questions or a point, then it would have been given the time to be argued against. It's clear this individual was as Remy stated, "trolling" and looking for this sort of response.
We don't have ungendering on this forum. The girls are girls.

Moderated forums are just that, moderated and it's the moderators job to ensure that users abide by the rules and it's a good place for all who have respect, to post. It is too easy for a forum to fall into an unproductive squabble of the masses and the best forums I go on are well moderated.
If you feel you have to watch what you say, then maybe you should think about what you are saying more or how you present it.

I'm not going to argue on this subject, that's how it is.

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Originally Posted by TVSURFER

Didn't you think that wasn't appropriate for him to call him that? You're a moderator, right? That has to be moderated is all I'm saying; you want trans to get respect, members can't get respect, but the boss and you can make opinionated, derogatory judgements with name calling and nothing is said? That's a different type of ludicrous, in my opinion! You didn't come on and say anything! You usually do! I having nothing else to say!
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Let me try to explain a bit, what Seanchai said was inappropriate to a certain extent. MrKnockOut is a friend/person I know in the real world, so yes I didn't like the name calling and temp banning being leveled at him, I'm biased. Even if I didn't know MrKnockOut I'd still think the situation was a bit harsh. However; Seanchai is British, (not an excuse) "cunt", "twat", "bullocks" etc, while still negative terms are much more common in their vernacular than our American lingo, so I don't see the word as being as harsh as some whom may not be familiar with it's use in the UK. MrKnockOut sole intent was to cause trouble with that thread, as I had answered all his queries regarding the matter months prior (IRL) to that incident, and he still brought it to the public forum as if we had never had those discussions and even twisted my words for his own agenda. I did respond in MrKnockOut thread on nearly every single page, but you must be doing what he did and ignored my post, thats not my problem. This forum is part of Seanchai castle and as the owner he can say what he wishes. I have always tried very hard to be fair and can't recall any name calling "toward members" (other than one incident in which I publicly apologized for). You yourself have done a good share of name calling to me personally, both publically and through your venomous hatemail you send in PM to me, and yet here you are. So no, everyone will not get banned simply for name calling but if I feel the situation warrants it I will do what I feel is necessary. In many instances YOU don't see the initial actions I take toward a member causing trouble on here. I usually issue an infraction first along with a couple warnings sent to the member stirring up trouble through the PM system. It is usually after these steps have been taken that I actually ban someone, though there are instances where someone gets banned immediately.

You know, it seems to me that Surf has an issue with people disagreeing with his points of view. If someone's opinion doesn't resonate with his, then apparently something is obviously wrong with that person.

My opinion of my people, through my eyes, is only my opinion which simply expresses what I've seen and experienced throughout my life. In no way was my post meant to be disrespectful or a slap in the face to anyone. If you took it that way then too bad. But in no way can you compare the comments I made to the comments that Occultist made. He deserves the boot for those ridiculouls comments.

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Originally Posted by vidman

You know, it seems to me that Surf has an issue with people disagreeing with his points of view. If someone's opinion doesn't resonate with his, then apparently something is obviously wrong with that person.

My opinion of my people, through my eyes, is only my opinion which simply expresses what I've seen and experienced throughout my life. In no way was my post meant to be disrespectful or a slap in the face to anyone. If you took it that way then too bad. But in no way can you compare the comments I made to the comments that Occultist made. He deserves the boot for those ridiculouls comments.

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Points of view, you’re quite a piece of work! I didn't invite anybody to a beat down because they disagreed with me, you did! You showed your real character to the point that everybody thought something was wrong with you! You got a short memory! I replied to you in a PM so there wouldn't be a dust-up! I respected your opinion, but I did it privately! So who has the character flaw? The facts are there! You’re quite a guy Vidman; your true colors were shown when you had the nerve to invite a guy to a beat down! You didn't include that in your rant when you were cappin' on your own people! You did what every loose cannon does; fight to prove a point! That's the shit that starts barroom brawls! This isn’t junior high school! Don’t question my character when yours is very suspect and was displayed for everybody to read! Say what you want about me, but the facts of everything I pointed out are true facts! You’ve lied in the face of the truth, so don’t question my character, I can read very well!
I challenged everyone to go back and read the thread from top to bottom so they could make up their own mind, not because the person owns the site and the photog takes flixs everybody likes! I think that’s fair and on point! Seanchai tells you its okay to piss on your head and tell you it’s raining, then that’s on you! I just pointed out facts! I’m not going to be insulted when I’m paying my money! Calling someone a cunt is over the top!
If the board feels this is excusable, then so be it! I always knew there are people on this board on this board who will say anything to be liked; true slappies! I have always given credit where credit was due. I stated before that everybody has an opinion and opinions can be debated! I felt what has happen on this board in the last few weeks was not of proper protocol, whether you own the site, moderate it or just talking to catch a breeze for wherever the wind blows! That’s my opinion and I can back it up without calling someone to the OK corral or a derogatory name! All I’m going to say is don't ever call me a cunt; I don't care what culture you came from and I don't have time for personal vendettas, because a reader disagrees with me! I’m going to make my point! That’s what public forums are all about! I'm done!
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Originally Posted by TVSURFER

Points of view, you’re quite a piece of work! I didn't invite anybody to a beat down because they disagreed with me, you did! You showed your real character to the point that everybody thought something was wrong with you! You got a short memory! I replied to you in a PM so there wouldn't be a dust-up! I respected your opinion, but I did it privately! So who has the character flaw? The facts are there! You’re quite a guy Vidman; your true colors were shown when you had the nerve to invite a guy to a beat down! You didn't include that in your rant when you were cappin' on your own people! You did what every loose cannon does; fight to prove a point! That's the shit that starts barroom brawls! This isn’t junior high school! Don’t question my character when yours is very suspect and was displayed for everybody to read! Say what you want about me, but the facts of everything I pointed out are true facts! You’ve lied in the face of the truth, so don’t question my character, I can read very well!
I challenged everyone to go back and read the thread from top to bottom so they could make up their own mind, not because the person owns the site and the photog takes flixs everybody likes! I think that’s fair and on point! Seanchai tells you its okay to piss on your head and tell you it’s raining, then that’s on you! I just pointed out facts! I’m not going to be insulted when I’m paying my money! Calling someone a cunt is over the top!
If the board feels this is excusable, then so be it! I always knew there are people on this board on this board who will say anything to be liked; true slappies! I have always given credit where credit was due. I stated before that everybody has an opinion and opinions can be debated! I felt what has happen on this board in the last few weeks was not of proper protocol, whether you own the site, moderate it or just talking to catch a breeze for wherever the wind blows! That’s my opinion and I can back it up without calling someone to the OK corral or a derogatory name! All I’m going to say is don't ever call me a cunt; I don't care what culture you came from and I don't have time for personal vendettas, because a reader disagrees with me! I’m going to make my point! That’s what public forums are all about! I'm done!
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Oh get over it TVsurfer and stop being silly cunt. :eek: :rolleyes:

I've explained it's a forum and as such it needs to be managed. You might find this hard to believe but there are people who come to these forums, specifically to try and derail them or in the classic troll form, just to get a rise. I've always been more than lenient on this forum but if it was just a free for all, this place would have been a disaster years ago, without girls/models coming here and without members. It would have been full of bitter, tgirl hating, twisted comments and escort reviews - and arguments over gender.
There needs to be moderation. MrKnockOut had his warnings and then pushed the button again, he knew what he was doing and I think his ban is lifted (I'll check after this) and he's welcome back - Occultist (and look at the name!!!) was here to cause trouble.

If you are a paying customer, then I will answer customerservice for the website elsewhere but the intention of the forum, the mods, users and my interaction are two different things, which is why the forum is still open to you, if your membership lapses. You cannot have your cake and eat it.

Yep, Mrknockout has been able to have access for weeks.

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Oh get over it TVsurfer and stop being silly cunt. :eek: :rolleyes:

I've explained it's a forum and as such it needs to be managed. You might find this hard to believe but there are people who come to these forums, specifically to try and derail them or in the classic troll form, just to get a rise. I've always been more than lenient on this forum but if it was just a free for all, this place would have been a disaster years ago, without girls/models coming here and without members. It would have been full of bitter, tgirl hating, twisted comments and escort reviews - and arguments over gender.
There needs to be moderation. MrKnockOut had his warnings and then pushed the button again, he knew what he was doing and I think his ban is lifted (I'll check after this) and he's welcome back - Occultist (and look at the name!!!) was here to cause trouble.


If you are a paying customer, then I will answer customerservice for the website elsewhere but the intention of the forum, the mods, users and my interaction are two different things, which is why the forum is still open to you, if your membership lapses. You cannot have your cake and eat it.

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How about if I call you a pugnacious, British peckerwood, cunt? :rolleyes: :eek: Since its alright now, I feel better!
One time I called one of your models out; I said she looked like she had too many Bud's? You jumped me with the ferocity of a fire breathing dragon! Do you remember that? I've never done it again; I respected your business! I even apologized, because you had a valid point. However, I know now the pendulum doesn't always swing the righteous way on this board, so I have to watch what I say when it comes to your business, but the proprietor has to give when it’s a matter of right and wrong, too! But apolology from you won't happen in a thousand lifetimes; I have, you haven’t! it’s okay to call people cunts! I know now, also, that the banner on the site of being respectful is just words; cunt’s have been changed to illicit proper decorum in America! I might even call somebody out over the internet for a duel, too! It’s OK! I’m over it! I know it’s alright! Can I have slice of your cake?
PS, Vidman has taken too many football hits to the head, it shows in what he writes! He's a bonifide idiot! I feel right as rain!:) It's okay!
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