DJ Caught w/a Tranny

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Originally Posted by tsamberskyi

lmaaaooo.. I'm a woman at all times and in everything I do.don't expect tranny behaviour out of me,I dont even vogue lol.
went on a date last night to a hip hop club.. there was no drama other than the occasional fool who would try to kick it to me like my date wasnt standing right next to me smh

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Amber I just have a question to ask, nothing pointed, just curious:... When you go to a hip-hop club do you bother to "research" the place first (in terms of how cool and balanced it is) or do you just go to any old hip hop club, and not give a damn about whether there might be zombies there or not, perhaps even DL zombies who might make trouble for you?

blue eyed devil x

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Originally Posted by SHAUN

Amber I just have a question to ask, nothing pointed, just curious:... When you go to a hip-hop club do yootheru bother to "research" the place first (in terms of how cool and balanced it is) or do you just go to any old hip hop club, and not give a damn about whether there might be zombies there or not, perhaps even DL zombies who might make trouble for you?

blue eyed devil x

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I just go places like anyone else lol.I don't live this social ostracized life where I need to be aware of certain places... well no more aware than any woman (gg or ts) would need to be. luckily I'm passable enough that I don't worry about harassment or anything like that

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Originally Posted by tsamberskyi

what does the sex industry have to do with a man being on the low? a man who is ashamed of being associated with a ts is going to feel that way regardless of if she's in the industry or not.it has to do with him not being comfortable with his sexuality and not confident in his manhood. your comparing apples with oranges bruh
ps.I don't hate what I do.. it's allowing me too be independent (I pay my own bills, including rent at my own place) and put myself through school.of course naturally I want better for myself and I'm not content with escorting for the rest of my life.
like I said though escorting has nothing to do with this argument.I just wanted to set the record straight on where I stand when it comes to sex work

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I'm mixing apples with oranges???

Amber you've got a whole fruit basket thing going on right now...

Who is the down low person you're basing your whole argument on? Mr. Cee...? Well initially that whole scandal revolved around an "OPEN INVESTIGATION" in which he was charged with solicitation. DL or not even his lawyer cautioned him to keep his mouth shut. Only problem with that is that Mr. Cee is a dumb ass who clearly has no limits on what he'll fuck for cash.

That's on him though....

Now my comment was based on you making a broad generalization on people who's taste in transsexual may differ considerably. Down low is a gay term. I don't adhere to it. To me you're either the woman that you say you are or you're not. So to me you blurring the lines between what Mr. Cee does by projecting his man in a wig fetish on all trans-attracted men as well conforming to a misinformed society who doesn't know the difference between a gay man and a transsexual woman and doesn't care to. So you're essentially jumping from one foot to the other regarding this topic.

Sex work is at the core of this discussion so my comment on it stands. I don't solicit sex personally but the Trans-women I encounter are prostitutes. And that's what I based my comment on.

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Originally Posted by tsamberskyi

awww I'm sorry if we are insensitive to a man who will lie, manipulate and just about do anything BUT stand proudly next to the person that he desires.
there is no feeling worst than realizing that someone is ashamed of you ( or ashamed of themselves) and only want to socialize with you if no one knows. paint it any color you want to but it's a very cruel and insensitive thing to do to someone.
imagine it this way, what if a chick fucked with you specifically cause you were black but didn't want to be seen with you anywhere cause she didn't want to be seen associating with a negro? I imagine that shit wouldn't make you feel good

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Ty- has a point then you went to make one and while you made it. You were all over the place with it. And all of it was not valid. You associating the deed
with feelings. The DL dude imposing all kinds of hurt feelings on people by him
being DL. So now you take it upon yourself to say he's ashamed of this and that By you all(s) definiton and to Ty-'s point NO, the DL dude is afraid to come clean for whatever reasons similar to reasons of the many of Transexuals who struggle (transforming back and forth, those who haven't come out, etc) to come clean. So it is utter hipocrisy, and further just by a person being DL doesn't mean the every DL dude is imposing this shame, abandonment, etc on those he's involved with. If indeed that person is lying to those involved than he's lying. But he can't be lying to the tranny cause he's not being seen with her hence the failure of that tranny to recognize what it is, and continuing on with the DL dude. A willing participant
which make them just as responsible so they inadvertently inflict that shame and abandonment on themselves. I'm a person who doesn't like my picture on the internet (for many reasons) but does that make me a DL(blogger, etc) of some sort. I don't think so. And so does that mean I can't play on the internet.
BTW; if shorty wanted to fuck me because I was black I would accomodate her little fine ass in more ways than one, because it would be obivious that we were on the same page. I wouldn't want anyone seeing us together either LMAO............:cool:

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Originally Posted by tsamberskyi

I just go places like anyone else lol.I don't live this social ostracized life where I need to be aware of certain places... well no more aware than any woman (gg or ts) would need to be. luckily I'm passable enough that I don't worry about harassment or anything like that

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I know I saw you in harlem that time, you gave me that look too. :)
Like you wanted me!;)

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Originally Posted by Indy24

This type of argument seems moot when tgirls themselves have admitted to hating their "professions" as it were including you. So to condemn us for not wanting to take you seriously due to the same reasons sounds like the purists of bs. It's a double edged sword that you girls excepted the consequences of the day you took out your 1st ad or argeed to do a shoot.

Now tgirls who have no ties to the sex industry, sure that's understandable. But most of the Trannies I hear from sound like the typical drug dealer who whines about upscale women not wanting to "ride" for them.

Nice speech Amber but the "Pretty Women" ending is not in the cards for me personally.

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Nothing she said had anything to do with 'escorts'. That statement was about a woman of any color not wanting to be seen with a black man in public, strictly the bedroom (i.e. the woman is on the down low). Anyone can be 'down low' not just gay men. The phrase can be appropriated from one group to another, just like how bigoted people called blacks 'nigga' and now all manner of idiots call themselves and friends 'nigga'

You Down Low guys should just stop dealing with trans women if you have such a problem with them, that would end all your little b.s. issues about worrying about fam and friends hating you since that is what matters to you. Alas, that is why you guys end up stuck having to pay for the chance of being with a TS instead of fostering an actual friendship since trans women aren't worthy in your eyes.

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Originally Posted by Indy24

I'm mixing apples with oranges???

Amber you've got a whol energyit basket thing going on right now...

Who is the down low person you're basing your whole argument on? Mr. Cee...? Well initially that whole scandal revolved around an "OPEN INVESTIGATION" in which he was charged with solicitation. DL or not even his lawyer cautioned him to keep his mouth shut. Only problem with that is that Mr. Cee is a dumb ass who clearly has no limits on what he'll fuck for cash.

That's on him though....

Now my comment was based on you making a broad generalization on people who's taste in transsexual may differ considerably. Down low is a gay term. I don't adhere to it. To me you're either the woman that you say you are or you're not. So to me you blurring the lines between what Mr. Cee does by projecting his man in a wig fetish on all trans-attracted men as well conforming to a misinformed society who doesn't know the difference between a gay man and a transsexual woman and doesn't care to. So you're essentially jumping from one foot to the other regarding this topic.

Sex work is at the core of this discussion so my comment on it stands. I don't solicit sex personally but the Trans-women I encounter are prostitutes. And that's what I based my comment on.

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the down low than was/is a side discussion spurred by another posters comment.
while I agree that "dl" is a gay term it is convenient to describe a particular type of man that will have sexual relations with a ts but would be ashamed to be seen with or have it be known that he associates with her.
now just because all the ts woman you know escort it doesn't mean all ts woman do. also just cause one escorts it doesn't mean that one can't have relationships with men outside of work.
I'm an escort and while I dont care if my clients are on the "dl" or not ( cause I dont enteract with them socially),I would never give a dl man the time of day in my personal life.to me there is no such thing as being my friend or lover if you are ashamed of me.

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Originally Posted by Handandsom

I know I saw you in harlem that time, you gave me that look too. :)
Like you wanted me!;)

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I'm telling you I never lived in Harlem and I never owned a dog,I don't like animals

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

Nothing she said had anything to do with 'escorts'. That statement was about a woman of any color not wanting to be seen with a black man in public, strictly the bedroom (i.e. the woman is on the down low). Anyone can be 'down low' not just gay men. The phrase can be appropriated from one group to another, just like how bigoted people called blacks 'nigga' and now all manner of idiots call themselves and friends 'nigga'

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Nope you are wrong about this and the analogy you used. The term down low was just for gay men. And the way you folks trying to coin it here is with a different meaning. Hence ni&&er is what the white establishment successfully named us to say we were not people, nigga is what we have coined ourselves in ignorance and love which is now universal. And these 2 words have two different meanings. But you would have us believe down low is one phrase and has two different meanings. Na.... bad analogy and every one you guys use with color turns out to not be such a good analogy, very different beast. And in your very own words I would have to be an idiot if I believed your logic