Now this is TROLLING!

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

I think it's funny how you people spout things when you don't have anything to back up your claims and completely ignore all hints at common sense. But rather than continue this meaningless argument I'm just going to take a page out of your own books and completely ignore anything you put forth in this discussion. If you feel like you've " learned " something about me in this discussion then that tells me you haven't been paying attention. I say I hate people constantly.

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And you have nothing to back up your claims either, so logically a person would be more inclined to go with an industry insider opposed to someone who has admitted they don't even watch that type of porn. The point I was making about your apathy toward these women or people in general is that it's really not true as there are people you've told me you care about and you too have wanted a "shoulder to cry on" (figure of speech obviously), so it's more grand standing that you are doing than anything else.

What the hell happened in here!! Jeez!!:eek:

Wow, my day was going really shitty until I read these five pages of comments. You mofo's are too funny. Shit's not that deep...:D

It fucking porn, who cares???????????????????????????????????????

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

And you have nothing to back up your claims either, so logically a person would be more inclined to go with an industry insider opposed to someone who has admitted they don't even watch that type of porn. The point I was making about your apathy toward these women or people in general is that it's really not true as there are people you've told me you care about and you too have wanted a "shoulder to cry on" (figure of speech obviously), so it's more grand standing that you are doing than anything else.

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I have logic backing up my claims. Something you seem to be far from able to comprehend. That's what I use in situations like these, try to follow suit in the future. Being in the industry doesn't mean you know everything, and really doesn't affect my argument of an adult person's accountability for their own well being. Which you would've picked up on if you were applying logic and not your own emotional view on the situation.

And, I believe it was you who said you can't ever really know a person over the internet. It applies here. You don't know me very well, so don't pretend to. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by bujrocks

Wow, my day was going really shitty until I read these five pages of comments. You mofo's are too funny. Shit's not that deep...:D

It fucking porn, who cares???????????????????????????????????????

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After all this, the vid is still funny to me. So I can't quite understand what all this is about. :confused:

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

I have logic backing up my claims. Something you seem to be far from able to comprehend. That's what I use in situations like these, try to follow suit in the future. Being in the industry doesn't mean you know everything, and really doesn't affect my argument of an adult person's accountability for their own well being. Which you would've picked up on if you were applying logic and not your own emotional view on the situation.

And, I believe it was you who said you can't ever really know a person over the internet. It applies here. You don't know me very well, so don't pretend to. Thanks.

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Emotions have noting to do with it. It's the producers accountability that really matters if you've been paying attention. lol just earlier you claimed we should know that you don't care about anyone and now you are saying no one knows you. Deny it all you want so you can puff your chest out.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

Emotions have noting to do with it. It's the producers accountability that really matters if you've been paying attention. lol just earlier you claimed we should know that you don't care about anyone and now you are saying no one knows you. Deny it all you want so you can puff your chest out.

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And this producer has no accountability as far as this subject goes. Because as it's been stated, he doesn't work for or with the company in question. So mentioning how they work doesn't really do him any good because he's not on the inside. Meanwhile my argument was based largely on the people being interviewed and how they're the ones who allow themselves to be put into this situation. What part of this is hard for you to understand? Are you not wearing your glasses?

And I never said I don't care about anyone. I said I have a distaste for people, any logical person would assume this to extend to people I have no connection with. But logic, as we see here, is not your strong suit. And YOU were the one who said you can never know a person over the internet. More than once, so I'm saying YOOOOOOUUUUU don't know me. Which is no less by your own admission.

Hint
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cWb1Wzc-ZaA/0.jpg
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This is possibly the finest 5 pages of Forum I have seen for many years!

I have downloaded a few GG vids because, generally, I enjoy edgy porn that plays around with some of the sacred (yet utterly banal due to their political foundation) human identities, particularly race and gender.

I have to say, even by my own freaky standards, GG is bit too tuff for me; even when I am fully aware that the model/hooker is thoroughly clued-up about what is happening, some of it still makes me wince (not that I'm trying to play moral poker with some of you, mind... If there was a Lesbian version of GG I'd sign up for life lol)

GG is not a BDSM site, but in actual fact it is significantly more brutal than anything chains and whips and pins and clips have to offer. It revolves, without question, around the degradation of the models involved.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT A B A D THING!!??

Degradation and humiliation are absolutely PART of kink, even where it appears a real power exchange is happening.

Even though some of the clip posted by Indy makes me wince, I have to tell you it also makes me spurt my tea out with laughter... If nothing else, surely you can appreciate the lead guy's sense of humour and timing?... He's taking the piss out of people! Don't you get it? This guy's a fucking riot!... People, please at least visit the GG site and take a tour, if only to READ some of the descriptions of the scenes: fucking hilarious!

Makes me a freak?... Most certainly

But don't try and trump my hand in some moral one-up-mans-ship!? Who are you trying to kid?

I've seen plenty of ladyboy vids where the babe looks vacant, just getting through her hard work, while her mouth is fish-hooked and her ass is getting ploughed six ways to next Tuesday... Is that ok porn for me to like? How much did she enjoy it? (probably less than the GG gals)... How much was she paid for the scene? (probably waaaay less than the GG gals)... And errrrrrr, how old was she?

Someone raised the point that these clips are about "white" men degrading "black" women: SO WHAT? Whats your point?? Why.....does that make it (drum roll) eeeeeeven woooorse??????? LMbedAO

(shriek) HEY EVERYONE, MAYBE ONE OF THOSE WOMEN COULDA BEEN BARACK OBAMAS DAUGHTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't appreciate how people cant see that degradation and humiliation can be part of sexplay??? But if you really dont see or feel it, that's fine, just move along, as has been stated in some particularly fine posts by COS and G1

At the risk of sounding like a liberal I'm now going to throw in one of those huge platitudes (but it's true): it really is all about CONSENT.

But you know what?... You don't even have to deal with it

.... Just don't try and use your liberal auras to bully freaks into submission; I appreciate that you find it pyschologically comforting to do so... But stop it!... ok?

Ok.

blue eyed devil

ARE YOU A HUMAN ON A SPIRITUAL JOURNEY..... OR A SPIRIT ON A HUMAN JOURNEY?

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

And this producer has no accountability as far as this subject goes. Because as it's been stated, he doesn't work for or with the company in question. So mentioning how they work doesn't really do him any good because he's not on the inside. Meanwhile my argument was based largely on the people being interviewed and how they're the ones who allow themselves to be put into this situation. What part of this is hard for you to understand? Are you not wearing your glasses?

And I never said I don't care about anyone. I said I have a distaste for people, any logical person would assume this to extend to people I have no connection with. But logic, as we see here, is not your strong suit. And YOU were the one who said you can never know a person over the internet. More than once, so I'm saying YOOOOOOUUUUU don't know me. Which is no less by your own admission.

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So you admit your argument and logic is based on nothing but the edited commercial material that the producers created to draw losers in to watch. While Seanchai may not actually work for the company he is very aware of the practices that the company dwells in and probably knows the owners names while you are just going off of the free content you can find. You keep saying I don't know you, but I'm just nice enough not to put you on blast.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

So you admit your argument and logic is based on nothing but the edited commercial material that the producers created to draw losers in to watch. While Seanchai may not actually work for the company he is very aware of the practices that the company dwells in and probably knows the owners names while you are just going off of the free content you can find. You keep saying I don't know you, but I'm just nice enough not to put you on blast.

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Your entire argument seems to be coming from here.
http://s3.vidimg02.popscreen.com/ori...ntura-ass-.jpg

My argument is based on the fact that these women have to consent to everything that happens to them. This isn't a pack of rapists, unless there's information you have that you're withholding... And based on the things you say, I'm sure that's not the case. I'm sure Seanchai is very aware of the practices the company dwells in because he's so deep inside their operation. That's why he's been able to provide so much information to all of us about everything and not just speculate. Because he sits in on their interviews and talks with the girls before and after. And you know this, because you're there. You're there the entire time and you know all of it. All of this is true.

And you being ' nice enough not to put me on blast ' doesn't really do you much good. Since as I said you don't know me. Shit, you know about two or three lines of information more than anyone else around here. Funny how when you don't have a point you just repeat the lines you can't prove while moving toward personal attacks. You're so cute when you do that. :D