Former Black-TGirl Model Arrested For Murder

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Originally Posted by Koanbred

Hey Remy!

I just want to say one thing. Dependent upon conditions and circumstance, anyone can be driven to kill.

Just ask any war veteran or battered wife...

Love,
Koanbred

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That's just a silly comment as is your new signature. Who made YOU an ambassador for the transgender community ... maybe the transgender community would have chosen someone that makes a little more sense and doesn't grandstand?

Sincerely, I can kind of see the point you are making and I'm sure your heart is in the right place but taking this as a "cause" is probably a bad choice, given that you don't even know her.

One thing we really need to get sorted out because it doesn't look like you are aware of this, is that being HIV+ is not the death sentence it used to be. Most people with the virus can live a somewhat normal lifestyle for a long time.

seanchai

That's odd, no one has ever accused me of NOT making any sense before this forum.

However, on second thought...Would it really make sense at all, to try to make any sense of what we as humans do, and how we as humans, act?

As a whole, though we do seem to be slowly evolving, we're pretty much a screwed-up species with apparently no guidance at all, with the exception of our own egos. How pitiful!

In all the millions of galaxies within the universe, we find ourselves within this one called the Milky Way. With all the millions of stars within the Milky Way, we find ourselves trapped within this abysmal rock we call, the earth, which appears to be mutually locked into the attractive force of gravitation with our own star, the Sun. This phenomenon appears to be our most salient curse! Just the fact that we are here alone, left to sort things out for ourselves, with no apparent rule of law except for our consciences, which can be so easily persuaded by mass opinion, false perception, and lies.

If neither religion or law protects the defenseless, or people who are traditionally ostracized from society, then just what does make any sense for them?

We've got to help mold this rock into a better place! Not through murder or vice, but by learning to treat entire groups of people, fairly.

PS.

I hope you don't take all signatures seriously...

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Originally Posted by Remy757Photog

I agree with TVSurfer and Ty-Clone statements, no comment probably was the best thing to say, and she and any other ts without a name and sex change will be charged as a him. Asia will go to a male prison and many do offer segregation for HIV victims, gays, and ts if they so choose.

It's way to early for us to speculate over what happen. RIP to the deceased and may the higher powers watch over Asia. We really only know what she told her family members (which doesn't make it the truth) and what they in turn told the media, but what we do know for a fact is that she murdered him, his side of the story wont be heard. Talk of a defense fund sounds a bit premature Koanbred, do you know her personally? If so I can almost understand wanting to jump to her defense, but I dont so I rather wait until more facts are known. I've dealt with domestic violence cases before and from what I've seen the guilty call family to see them one last time with out bars in between, the innocent (self-defense) dial 911.

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I feel what remy is saying about this I gonna pray that everything works out for the best for her, but I can't jump and be ready to defend her until I know more about this situation. Sometimes things happen and people snap.

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Originally Posted by Koanbred

That's odd, no one has ever accused me of NOT making any sense before this forum.

However, on second thought...Would it really make sense at all, to try to make any sense of what we as humans do, and how we as humans, act?

As a whole, though we do seem to be slowly evolving, we're pretty much a screwed-up species with apparently no guidance at all, with the exception of our own egos. How pitiful!

In all the millions of galaxies within the universe, we find ourselves within this one called the Milky Way. With all the millions of stars within the Milky Way, we find ourselves trapped to this abysmal rock we call, the earth, which appears to be mutually locked into the attractive force of gravitation with our own star, the Sun. This phenomenon appears to be our most salient curse! Just the fact that we are here alone, left to sort things out for ourselves, with no apparent rule of law except for our consciences, which can be so easily persuaded by mass opinion, false perception, and lies.

If neither religion or law protects the defenseless, or people who are traditionally ostracized from society, then just what does make any sense for them?

We've got to help mold this rock into a better place! Not through murder or vice, but by learning to treat entire groups of people, fairly.

PS.

I hope you don't take all signatures seriously...

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Well in that diatribe you've just pretty much proved you've nothing really to say that does make sense, it is just swill.

PS - no, but then again most people wouldn't state they were Ambassadors to Transgender Community.

Dear Seanchai,

You simply don't comprehend the gravity of the situation. However, that's ok! You too, deserve the time to absorb the dire complexity of this quagmire of life. It's only through education will we ever truly come to fully appreciate the actual cause and effect relationship between public standard and the ostracized group.

A very large segment of our society will also have to come to grips with the fact that we are here, lost in space, moving at approximately 250 km/s, but swearing up and down that we are motionless. That's only because, that's what we feel. We need time to overcome our prejudicial feelings based upon pure perception.

A perception that is false and totally dependent upon our senses. Senses, which are most times, far too misleading.

Love,
Koanbred

Koanbred, dude, with each post you are getting more and more off subject. If you want to talk meta-physics and the meaning of life, please start a new thread. Let's keep this one dedicated to the news concerning Asia and those relevant topics.

Thanks

I dont see how you (Koanbread) can turn a blind eye to what happened. What exactly are you supporting her for? Just because she's transgender? You have no form of a meaningful relationship with this girl and you want her to get away with murder? That's like a skinhead's mentality. What if she's guilty? Hell, what if she's found innocent? I wouldnt wanna be around some girl that could shank me up at any given moment. On top of her still sleeping around with AIDS. I know all the facts arent available yet, but with whats been said so far makes me feel safer that someone "in the community", that was a "danger to to the community" is now locked up. I'm sorry it had to come to that, but it's better for everyone.

All I'm saying is that you have no freaking idea as to what frame of mind Asia was in when this tragedy occurred. That's because we're all missing huge segments of information.

Here we're supposed to be a transgender oriented site and people are throwing Asia under the bus, primarily based upon what her brother stated.

Just for one moment, can you imagine that you knew the identity of the person who directly gave you AIDS? Having said that, can you then imagine being smacked by that same person? If it were me I wouldn't give a darn what the legal consequences would be at that instant, and I personally don't believe that most of you would give two shakes about it either!

Just let somebody give your civil-talking asses, AIDS, and then smack you afterwards! That's worst than somebody even spitting in your face!

Yeah! It's time to get meta-physical, because that's the only place to go with something this outrageous!

We've all done regretful things in our youth. We should not be judged by juvenile behaviors like "thugging on the streets" or what have you. Those things are nowhere near the magnitude and severity of murder!

All I'm saying is, let's start out on Asia's side at least! For goodness sake, some of you actually knew her. Did she really appear to be a murderous psychopath to you? Goodness gracious! Give her a chance!

I continue to support Asia with all my heart!!!

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Originally Posted by Koanbred

All I'm saying is that you have no freaking idea as to what frame of mind Asia was in when this tragedy occurred.

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Neither do you dude... neither do you.

Let's get the facts straight from what we know already.

1. Asia admitted killing her boyfriend to her Mother, Brother and the Police
2. The police allegedly reported multiple stab wounds to the boyfirends back and arms
3. Asia did not call 911
4. Vidman has suggested that Asia shared stories and memories with him about domestic violence but she did not indicate (from what has been said) that the domestic violence was inflicted by her late boyfriend.
5. The press have suggested that her boyfriend gave her HIV or AIDS

The rest we can only speculate. From what I have read about the incident in my opinion Asia would be charged with manslaughter or something similar under US state law (forgive I am not familiar with the legal system in the US). I beleive that although it appears the murder had some premeditation (mulitple stab wounds, some to the back and Asia did not call 911) it may not have been intentional or, Asia may not have been aware of her actions at the time. I think it is very likely that Asia's boyfriend gave her HIV or AIDS and domestic violence was probably present but I can only speculate as I do not know for sure. It is plausible that they argued often about these things or generally (as Asia required a knife to aide her in her fight this time). It is also likely due to her reported subdued behaviour (sitting alone on her porch. 'blacking out' during the alledged incident) that she was in a lot of shock and was perhaps not aware of her surroundings or actions at the time. Also the fact that the body was found in a blanket with a pillow would suggest to me immediate remorse as she is positioning her boyfriend into a comfortable position.

Again I can only speculate and share my opinion but, from what we know I wouldn't think that anyone could back her 100% as there is not enough information available to make such a statement especially if you don't know Asia personally. You just seem to backing her because she is a trangendered woman and happens to be attractive, in my opninion

All I will say is that i send my deepest consolences to both families affected by this tradgedy and I hope that Asia recieves a fair and unbiased trial.

Based upon what you've just stated, I think we've got a better idea than ever before!

Let's see, the boyfriend has a history of domestic violence. He is suspected of infecting Asia with the AIDS virus and addition to these horrendous things, for the last time, he smacks the crap out of her.

Had he done all of those things to you, would you yourself call 911. Why? Because you so seriously want him to have something that he so surreptitiously but intentionally has denied you from having. Yeah, right!

Even you don't believe that BS!