Mindless Ramblings of The Cool Ones

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Originally Posted by raheme

Very valid points.

My opinion: they should have left randall impaled on the fence as walker food.

There's no getting over the fact that he tried to kill you. He had mallicous intent!
Inviting him to live with the group is like inviting a rapist to babysit your kids.

Dale had to die. There's no room for 'humane' decisions in a dying, lawless world. He didn't deserve the death that he got but, the irony of his death proves why he had to go. Turn the other cheek and get bit in the ass.

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I disagree with Dale having to die and with there being no place for 'humane'. In a world reduced to lawless behavior, the group of survivor that maintain civility is going to be the safest option. Imagine being in a group of 'Shane' personalities where you may become walker bait if he decides he doesn't like you anymore whilst out foraging. Fucking insane place it would become real quickly when you might get killed over any disagreement, or if you are precieved as being weak.

If you were in a group where everyone was like Shane, it's pretty likely you wouldn't end up in a situation where you might get sacrificed. Since people would stop making extremely poor decisions when it comes to dealing with dangerous elements.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

I disagree with Dale having to die and with there being no place for 'humane'. In a world reduced to lawless behavior, the group of survivor that maintain civility is going to be the safest option. Imagine being in a group of 'Shane' personalities where you may become walker bait if he decides he doesn't like you anymore whilst out foraging. Fucking insane place it would become real quickly when you might get killed over any disagreement, or if you are precieved as being weak.

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Welcome to gang culture...piranahs...any sing of weakness and your pack turns on you. Weakest link theory.

Not saying that there won't be rules in a lawless world but your level of compassion and civility is different.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

If you were in a group where everyone was like Shane, it's pretty likely you wouldn't end up in a situation where you might get sacrificed. Since people would stop making extremely poor decisions when it comes to dealing with dangerous elements.

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Agreed. All one needs to do is look at current prison culture. There are rules and then there are RULES. Weaker individuals either die or serve in submissive roles.

In a world where anyone may try to rape and kill me or my family, I'm not taking any chances, plain and simple. I've seen OZ, rape is clearly unpleasant.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

In a world where anyone may try to rape and kill me or my family, I'm not taking any chances, plain and simple. I've seen OZ, rape is clearly unpleasant.

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Cosmic we can take it a step further...check out the movie 'the road'. In a true apocolypse, where there is rule of law, a shortage of food, and water, rape is the least of your worries. You won't have to worry about zombies eating you as weak and desperate men will start to canibalize one another for food to fufill basic human needs.

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Originally Posted by raheme

Cosmic we can take it a step further...check out the movie 'the road'. In a true apocolypse, where there is rule of law, a shortage of food, and water, rape is the least of your worries. You won't have to worry about zombies eating you as weak and desperate men will start to canibalize one another for food to fufill basic human needs.

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That actually came up in the comic as well. Since it clearly isn't about to be a spoiler. Dale got caught by a group of cannibals. What they didn't know however was that he had been bitten and was " tainted meat. "

But yeah, food, water, that's always a big issue in a post apocalyptic world. Though water is usually much more of an issue in the event of a nuclear holocaust than a zombie out break.

Max Max is a pretty good example.

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Originally Posted by raheme

Welcome to gang culture...piranahs...any sing of weakness and your pack turns on you. Weakest link theory.

Not saying that there won't be rules in a lawless world but your level of compassion and civility is different.

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Originally Posted by raheme

Agreed. All one needs to do is look at current prison culture. There are rules and then there are RULES. Weaker individuals either die or serve in submissive roles.

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I hear what you two are saying, but those are examples of particular subsets of society. Particularly which don't tend to care anyway about things like compassion for life, trying to truly do things to better themselves, and just in general doing things the right way.

I do agree, basic provisions would be a huge concern. Luckily, I'm smarter than the average bear. You need to sterilize water, grab plenty of iodine tablets or droplets, give it about 30mins and it's drinkable.

Another option, find cave and/or underground source of water, particularly that passes through limestone. It will have a strong mineral taste like all hell, but that's a natural purifier. Still would suggest boiling do to natural bacteria and such that exist in caves.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

I hear what you two are saying, but those are examples of particular subsets of society. Particularly which don't tend to care anyway about things like compassion for life, trying to truly do things to better themselves, and just in general doing things the right way.

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Even the average person can fall into that state of mind in a do or die situation. You never know what to expect from a person once the rules no longer apply. Take away the laws for one day and see just how many people become murderers, rapists, and thieves. People you thought would never do such things, maybe even people you know and trust. These are the situations that truly define a person. And you can never know just who they are until they are in them.