Mindless Ramblings of The Cool Ones

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

Maybe he was a sociopath. But the fact of the matter is, he was focused on keeping everyone safe. Not just a way of living that isn't going to cut it anymore. People seem to over look that he wasn't acting out of any misguided sense of power, but for the over all good of the people he was looking after.

I'd hardly say killing Otis was for revenge. That was much more of a sacrifice than anything. Not saying it was right. But I'd probably do it too. It's you or me. Or rather, it's you.

I missed this rape everyone keeps talking about...

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And how do you justify him trying to kill Rick?

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Originally Posted by tsamberskyi

And how do you justify him trying to kill Rick?

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I don't. I'm with him up until that point.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

I don't. I'm with him up until that point.

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Therefore murderer

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Originally Posted by tsamberskyi

Therefore murderer

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I never said he wasn't one... I just agreed with why he did it.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

Maybe he was a sociopath. But the fact of the matter is, he was focused on keeping everyone safe. Not just a way of living that isn't going to cut it anymore. People seem to over look that he wasn't acting out of any misguided sense of power, but for the over all good of the people he was looking after.

I'd hardly say killing Otis was for revenge. That was much more of a sacrifice than anything. Not saying it was right. But I'd probably do it too. It's you or me. Or rather, it's you.

I missed this rape everyone keeps talking about...

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Yeah, but it's the execution that's important. For example, America can keep our country safe by dropping nuclear bombs on every other country that isn't strictly aligned with us. However; seeking diplomatic avenues allows each country to change and possibly become an ally as well.

Killing Otis was strictly revenge, they were less than 50 yards from the car. They could have kept humping it the way they were doing, and while the zombies would have been right behind them when they got to the car vehicles are made with safety glass that isn't just going to instantly break. They could have drove over the lot of em and kept it moving. No, Shane was feeling vindictive over Carl being shot by this man and saw a way to make his own getaway that much easier, by making Otis zombie bait, which ultimately was unnecessary.

If I recall correctly the 'rape' didn't actually happen, but it was damned close (she was screaming and beating at him to stop) and that's bad enough, because it shows that the potential was there for Shane to once again go over the edge even with a person he claims he 'loves'.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

Yeah, but it's the execution that's important. For example, America can keep our country safe by dropping nuclear bombs on every other country that isn't strictly aligned with us. However; seeking diplomatic avenues allows each country to change and possibly become an ally as well.

Killing Otis was strictly revenge, they were less than 50 yards from the car. They could have kept humping it the way they were doing, and while the zombies would have been right behind them when they got to the car vehicles are made with safety glass that isn't just going to instantly break. They could have drove over the lot of em and kept it moving. No, Shane was feeling vindictive over Carl being shot by this man and saw a way to make his own getaway that much easier, by making Otis zombie bait, which ultimately was unnecessary.

If I recall correctly the 'rape' didn't actually happen, but it was damned close (she was screaming and beating at him to stop) and that's bad enough, because it shows that the potential was there for Shane to once again go over the edge even with a person he claims he 'loves'.

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Yes that's all well and good, but we're not talking about a world where diplomacy is a viable option. Much less with people who just tried to kill you. Diplomacy exists today because people are much more aware that not everyone is trying to rape you, kill you and take your food. That's why it didn't exist millions of years ago.

You're speculating here. It's not as if Shane gave any indication that he was doing it for revenge. And even if they could have limped all the way back to the car, the zombies were gaining ground. Sure he could've taken the risk, or, he could give them a bigger meal. If he wanted to kill Otis for revenge, he wouldn't have needed to wait until they were both about to die for it to happen. He could've put one in his head, grabbed his shit and moved along smoothly.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

You're speculating here. It's not as if Shane gave any indication that he was doing it for revenge. And even if they could have limped all the way back to the car, the zombies were gaining ground. Sure he could've taken the risk, or, he could give them a bigger meal. If he wanted to kill Otis for revenge, he wouldn't have needed to wait until they were both about to die for it to happen. He could've put one in his head, grabbed his shit and moved along smoothly.

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Not really, you could see the disgust and intent for malice on Shane face the entire episode. He needed Otis, so has to acquire the items they went to achieve and once done, well Otis was done for.

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Originally Posted by Ms Remy M

Not really, you could see the disgust and intent for malice on Shane face the entire episode. He needed Otis, so has to acquire the items they went to achieve and once done, well Otis was done for.

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Shane always looks like that... Literally always. Think back... When did he ever look like he didn't wanna slap the taste out of someone's mouth and give'em a Popeyes biscuit so they could confirm it was lost? Again, you're working on pure speculation here.

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Originally Posted by CosmicTraveler

Shane always looks like that... Literally always. Think back... When did he ever look like he didn't wanna slap the taste out of someone's mouth and give'em a Popeyes biscuit so they could confirm it was lost? Again, you're working on pure speculation here.

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Everyone keeps over looking the attempted murder of Rick....dude is not a good person period.by trying to kill and rape people in his camp he has already proven himself to be a liability.it's like great...the Walkers won't get me but watch out for Shaun

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Originally Posted by tsamberskyi

Everyone keeps over looking the attempted murder of Rick....dude is not a good person period.by trying to kill and rape people in his camp he has already proven himself to be a liability.it's like great...the Walkers won't get me but watch out for Shaun

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to me that's what makes the show great. its' the human element vs the zombie factor. just because the lion's the king of the jungle doesn't mean you overlook hyena's.