Former Black-TGirl Model Arrested For Murder

Hey Remy,

Your argument is so reminiscent of the 60's and 70's when people were saying, that "negroes" were just making it hard for themselves and that if they really wanted to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, that they could. However, all along, discrimination in all of the major institutions of learning, manufacturing, and engineering was running rampant. Everyone was aware of just how prevalent racism was, but they would still say these ridiculous things.

Today, we have the same situation with Transgenders. Everyone is aware that they're being discriminated against. Everyone is aware that this discrimination is pervasive. However, there's still this big question mark over their heads. Are they crazy? Are they mentally-ill? Do we really want to work and live with them? Do we want them actually coming into contact with our children? It's questions like these that I truly believe are retarding transgender inclusion and passing of ENDA.

So yes, we like to acknowledge and highlight the few successful extractions from the transgender community. However, as you must know, reality reflects a much dimmer picture from the transgender community. Most are on some type of governmental financial assitance. Many are high school drop-outs because they just couldn't take the harassment and gender pressure anymore. Many are high school drop-outs because they were kicked out of their homes as juveniles and were therefore, rendered homeless as teenagers. The same is true for many gay teens. Far too many transgenders make their living via sex-work and the adult entertainment industry.

The cards of life are heavily stacked against them. So love, to your argument, I say, poppycock!

Crazy and Mentally-ill are perhaps too strong of words. By default anyone experincing gender-dsymorphia should seek psychiatric help of some sort, and this is required to attain SRS and/or government assistance. This shouldn't be looked upon as a bad thing. Many citizens seek psychiatric help for a wide variety of issues, and this is no different.

"...few successful extractions from the transgender community" You are on a porn forum, of which many of us photogs find easy recruitment for models from the portion of this community that is already exposed to the sex business. There are other venues where you will find this group to be the minority. Yes, too many find themselves performing escort work. Life isn't fair or easy for anyone. You keep trying to make it sound as if there is some brick wall preventing transgendered people from acheiving success and/or gainful employment (recession aside) and that is just bullshit. Yes, discrimination exist, but too often that is simply the excuse the lazy use to explain away why they chose escorting and not the actual reality of the matter.

You really want to help transexuals in society, gather up the girls you know personally and help them find gainful employment. Make them understand the importance of having a job and that escorting should only be a means to an end not their life long goal. Do something about the concerns you have, take them to a support group, a job training seminar or something. I mean no disrespect, but I've seen post by you where it seems the girls you know are taking advantage of your kindness. I've been there too. Surround yourself with girls that want to rise above their problems, that are willing to help themselves, and help them. It sounds mean and cold, but don't waste your time, energy, and resources with girls that will just try to slowly milk you dry when there are so many that can better appreciate your efforts.

I have to say, I don't like how you tried to turn your nose up to transexuals in the "adult entertainment industry". I decided to apply to work for Grooby specifically to help the girls make legal money and get away from the pitfalls and dangers of escorting. I wish I still had my original email I sent to Grooby asking to be a photog. This is an opportunity for them, sometimes a career, sometimes just another 'means to an end'. As I've said before, I try to empower every model I meet in the ways that I can, not exploit them. I deeply applaud Grooby for giving so many girls a chance to make money and make a name for themselves in this business, and there are few others (in this Industry) that try as much as Grooby does to pay respect and homage to the transgender community, and I thank Seanchai so much for allowing me to be a small part of it.

I have had very few regrets since joining Grooby, but there is one model that always comes to mind where I am still thinking "did I do the right thing". To explain a little more, when I first met this model from Richmond, she was just barely 19 and working a regular job and hadn't yet been exposed to the Adult Industry of Porn or escorting (to my knowledge she doesn't escort at all). When we worked together she quickly became a Yum favorite and probably one of the most popular models on that site, certainly one of the most successful models that I found and brought to the world of Porn. We were very good friends and she was so sweet and kind hearted. She moved from Va to more popular urban cities to further pursue her new found career in porn and to my knowledge is doing well in the business. However; I don't really speak with her like we used to and from what others have reported, her demeanor and attitude has changed greatly from what I knew her to be. It hurts me deeply to know that I played a small part in creating such a change in her, though business wise it has been good for her. I sometimes wonder, did I really do the right thing (?), where would she be now if I hadn't recruited her (?), but at the end of the day, she made her own decisions and I feel it's perhaps the people she chose to surround herself with that lead to the change in her attitude, and not the fact that I brought her to porn. We provided her with a lot of work, and money that I know she needed at the time. I do miss my friend though, and I try to rest my mind in the fact that she is doing well for herself, that she took advantage of the opportunity we presented and she ran with it with real dedication and goals in mind. I wish her well in all her endeavors. *ok that's enough of that, I've made myself weepy eyed thinking back to my friend whom I've drifted apart from*

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Originally Posted by kilakali

Man.. you are so wrong on your assumptions. Asia is reckless she is a react first think later person.. I can tell you never spent time with her or you would know. She has a kind heart but as i said she doesnt think first and can be a loose canon.

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Right on the money, Kali. Don't let those little innocent photoshoots fool you, she is not innocent by any means. She was a thug at heart. Not only that, but she never was a traveling businesswoman. She escorted right there in Philly. Never left the state unless it was a personal trip, but NEVER for business.

Hey Remy!

I didn't mean to cast any aspersions upon the adult entertainment industry. The adult entertainment industry has put food on the table for many of its models and I'm personally glad to see that it exists due to obviously many reasons, as I too, am a happy subscriber. I'm certainly thankful that it has been used as a financial resource to the many of the models who have exploited its availability. It's just that, for the upwardly mobile, educated, and financially successful individual, I don't think that the adult entertainment industry would be her first choice.

Gender dysphoria, is another topic altogether. Most tgirls that I'm aware of, are not depressed and have no dysphoria, because, both mentally and psychologically-speaking, the are living out their "true" genders. Since gender, is psychological and sex is physical, I truly do believe that their correct gender is expressed by how they both think and feel. Their sexual genitalia is just that, their sexual genitalia!

The only people experiencing gender dysphoria are those girls who are still living the lie of being men, when actually, they know that their true feelings about who they really are deep inside, is just the total opposite! Those people are the one's in need of drugs and psychotherapy, because they are suffering from depression. Most Tgirls aren't depressed at all!

Also, this venue is not the best for determining the overall success rate of the entire transgender community. Many studies and surveys have been done on the financial status of the MTF transgender community. They are below the poverty level! Only a few can attest to good earnings with benefits. The rest can be accurately categorized as defeated with a "basement" mentality, or perhaps socially exhausted. I would not cast them as, "lazy".

I am always so very proud of the ones who make it!

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Originally Posted by vidman

Right on the money, Kali. Don't let those little innocent photoshoots fool you, she is not innocent by any means. She was a thug at heart. Not only that, but she never was a traveling businesswoman. She escorted right there in Philly. Never left the state unless it was a personal trip, but NEVER for business.

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Ok, Vman! Please tell me that you didn't use to be her friend!!!

God forbid that someone uses your quote in her trial...FRIEND!

YIKES!!!!

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Originally Posted by Koanbred

Ok, Vman! Please tell me that you didn't use to be her friend!!!

God forbid that someone uses your quote in her trial...FRIEND!

YIKES!!!!

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Say what? uhh, cornbread, I've read your ridiculous posts and have journeyed with you to Mars and other galaxies while you tirade on with your nonsense and rhetoric. Let's keep this simple dude. Regardless of whether Asia was my friend or not, I'm quite sure that anything typed on this site is far from submissable in the court of law so it really doesn't matter what I say on here. Afterall, I doubt if you know my real name, Mr. Cornbread. Unlike you, I support Asia from a standpoint of personal association. Afterall, I have known her for a very long time. Your support is dictated merely by her being a transsexual and that you have unconditional support for t-girls. If you didn't love transsexuals, I'm sure Asia wouldn't have your unconditional support. In my case, I support her because I know her on all levels. Even if it does turn out that she maliciously killed this guy, I would still support her, but I wouldn't condone what she did. I would support her in the ways of hoping she's okay while she serves her prison time. I would support her in the ways of hoping that she can deal with the rest of her life in jail, mentally. That doesn't mean that I would support her even though she killed someone out of malice. You sir, support anything she does, right or wrong, just because you like t-girls. Again, ridiculous rhetoric coming from someone who seems quite intelligent.

Well said Vidman. :cool:

Ok Vman!

It's just that to say, "She was a thug at heart" seems a bit damning to me. If I was truly a life long friend or even an associate who's known her for some time, I would have reserved that comment for familiar people. I wouldn't have stated that over the internet. That's all I'm saying...

If you really think about it, this thugging stuff was most probably something that she did in her youth, right?

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Originally Posted by vidman

Say what? uhh, cornbread, I've read your ridiculous posts and have journeyed with you to Mars and other galaxies while you tirade on with your nonsense and rhetoric. Let's keep this simple dude. Regardless of whether Asia was my friend or not, I'm quite sure that anything typed on this site is far from submissable in the court of law so it really doesn't matter what I say on here. Afterall, I doubt if you know my real name, Mr. Cornbread. Unlike you, I support Asia from a standpoint of personal association. Afterall, I have known her for a very long time. Your support is dictated merely by her being a transsexual and that you have unconditional support for t-girls. If you didn't love transsexuals, I'm sure Asia wouldn't have your unconditional support. In my case, I support her because I know her on all levels. Even if it does turn out that she maliciously killed this guy, I would still support her, but I wouldn't condone what she did. I would support her in the ways of hoping she's okay while she serves her prison time. I would support her in the ways of hoping that she can deal with the rest of her life in jail, mentally. That doesn't mean that I would support her even though she killed someone out of malice. You sir, support anything she does, right or wrong, just because you like t-girls. Again, ridiculous rhetoric coming from someone who seems quite intelligent.

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Amen Vid, very well said!
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Originally Posted by TVSURFER

Amen Vid, very well said!
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Gee, thanks Surf. :D