Can I Tell The Truth?

I tried to have this discussion on BGC a good while back. But the people on there are so out of touch with reality, that it was a waste of time.

In all seriousness, I really believe that too many people in this lifestyle are using it to live a lie. It's safe to assume that if you're a guy on this site, then you like transsexuals (TS). With that said, it's time for dudes and trannies to quit lying to themselves about what they are and about their own sexuality. There's no such thing as a straight man that fucks TS'. In all reality, TS' are just men that live as women, but they're not women. So if you're fucking TS', then you're bisexual in the least. It's time for both trannies and men to quit lying to themselves about this.

I came to peace with myself about this a long time ago. I like the thought of being with a man that looks and feels like a woman, but has male sex organs. I could never fuck with a post-op TS, because I like male parts, but I don't like "guys." So, I'm bisexual at least. All of you other guys can be at peace with yourselves when you admit this as well. To all the TS -- you aren't women. To all the men -- if you fuck with TS', you aren't straight. I actually think it's disrespectful to call a TS a woman. All of you were given birth by a woman, so to say that a man who imitates them is the same as them, that's disrespectful.

I don't have anything against TS, I like them a lot. A lot of guys don't want to admit that they like the same sex, so by them fucking with a TS, they feel as if it's not the same thing. Also, some of the TS don't wan to be labeled gay or bisexual, so they convince themselves and others that they're women. That's a lie, and it's time for all the lies in this lifestyle to cease.

Wait a minute..hold-up..for your information this is a DEAD ISSUE. I for one didn't come on this forum to discuss why i like ts women.if i thought it was a problem..i would go somewhere where i could get help for my problem. It seems as if you are consumed with guilt.this is not a problem solving forum..this is an admirer's forum.take that SHIGGITY back to bgc live.

Why would I be guilty? I'm at peace with myself and totally honest with myself. You on the otherhand, are typing with extreme anger, which proves guilt on your part. I obviously struck a nerve with you. I obviously made you look in the mirror and face what you've been lying to yourself about all this time. Is there too much truth for you contained in what I said? I don't care if it's a dead issue, I revived it.

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Originally Posted by Occultist

Why would I be guilty? I'm at peace with myself and totally honest with myself. You on the otherhand, are typing with extreme anger, which proves guilt on your part. I obviously struck a nerve with you. I obviously made you look in the mirror and face what you've been lying to yourself about all this time. Is there too much truth for you contained in what I said? I don't care if it's a dead issue, I revived it.

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Repeat...DEAD ISSUE.

I think any issue that sparks lively debate is welcomed, or at least should be. My stance on the greater issue is this. Online communities are called virtual reality for a reason. it's not supposed to be real life because its not! just like it was stated that ts are not "real" woman because they are not. So its weird to condemn an alternate reality community for not being "real!"

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I actually think it's disrespectful to call a TS a woman. All of you were given birth by a woman, so to say that a man who imitates them is the same as them, that's disrespectful.

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That's interesting.

Yeah I've seen this topic beaten up over here and over at BGC. I still don't understand people care about how other people classify themselves, especially when there can be so much to consider when determining why one person is sexually attracted to another. The issue isn't as black and white as some people try to make it out to be, and the debate can get a bit silly when ultimately any decision I make to label myself will have no impact on anyone else here.

Still, since these discussions tend to focus on transwomen, I always like to throw out the notion of a genetic man/transman (FTM) relationship and see if that changes the opinion any.

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Originally Posted by TurboMan

Wait a minute..hold-up..for your information this is a DEAD ISSUE. I for one didn't come on this forum to discuss why i like ts women.if i thought it was a problem..i would go somewhere where i could get help for my problem. It seems as if you are consumed with guilt.this is not a problem solving forum..this is an admirer's forum.take that SHIGGITY back to bgc live.

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Amen, TurboMan, amen!
Occultist, you have reconciled with your conscience and that’s cool, but the dudes who are on this board have done that a long time ago! You're preaching to a choir that went home to eat the chicken dinner! We've heard this hymn before. It’s an old song.
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Occultist,

Not sure why you feel you have to tell TS's - "you're a man" and tell the TS admirers around here - "you're bisexual at least". If a man chooses to dress and live as a woman that's his business - I know several TS's and I respect their decision. I don't know what qualifies you to label people you don't even know as bisexual but that's something you need to think about. Live and let live brother.

Occultist

why do care what people think about themselves. it an overweight, big belly, flat chest, no ass, short hair GG feels she’s just as beautiful as beyonce (what it is to you). are you the type of person that gets a thrill on telling people how you or society feels about their look or their sexual orientation?

This is a kind of "am I gay ?" thread which receives a lot of scorn on HungAngels.com, and I think the Admin frowns on them here. Most guys on this forum have accepted what they are and know what they like. Yeah, I guess it makes me gay in most people's eyes. So what ?

On the other hand, there is an issue to think about: guys being on the "down-low", and not being open with TGirls, being ashamed to be in public with them, etc. I'm not accusing anyone here of that, but I've heard and read the complaints from the TGirls, and it's a real problem. So, the guy who can be open and honest wins the prize. (If she is a prize, that is.) Something to think about.

Having said that, I see no advantage to posting my identity here. I've never been about trying to pick up chicks online, or making contact with people. I've got enough in real life. Here it's all about the discussion for me.