Why no submissive TG BSDM sites?

Simple question. Sen and the grooby fam has loads of sites and one of the last unveiled has been the BSDM fetish site Transex domination. While some guys enjoy seeing men dominated its quite the opposite for others. Why not have a site where its strictly the TGgirls being dominated and submissive while achieving the same theme?

Just a thought.

That would be an nice to see for a change.

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Originally Posted by ballznnutzz

Simple question. Sen and the grooby fam has loads of sites and one of the last unveiled has been the BSDM fetish site Transex domination. While some guys enjoy seeing men dominated its quite the opposite for others. Why not have a site where its strictly the TGgirls being dominated and submissive while achieving the same theme?

Just a thought.

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Good luck on trying to find T girls who would want to do that, and if they did im sure they would be asking for a large sum of money. Its hard enough to find girls wanting to do hardcore, but on top of that have themselves humliated and gagged? The high price model and the small size demographic doesnt sound cost efficient

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Originally Posted by kilakali

good Luck On Trying To Find T Girls Who Would Want To Do That, And If They Did Im Sure They Would Be Asking For A Large Sum Of Money. Its Hard Enough To Find Girls Wanting To Do Hardcore, But On Top Of That Have Themselves Humliated And Gagged? The High Price Model And The Small Size Demographic Doesnt Sound Cost Efficient

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That Should Answer Everybody's Question.....truth Is The Light!!

I've tied a few girls up, but only at their suggestion. One girl had a cum shot that measured about 10 feet due to submissive posture. She loved it!:D
However, kilakali is right; if there is one or two out there, they have to be enticed by a green grocer!
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I totally disagree. It most certainly can be done. how the hell can anyone think TS girls wont do something that GG's would, and already do! The issue is, Most guys that buy this stuff are more gay than straight. They produce what they want. "humiliated!" Wow, Most of these girls left humility years ago, on some crack vial infested alley-way In-between the boulevard of broken dreams and addiction ave. This site, and it's affiliates are proof positive that anything is possible.

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Originally Posted by nycguy

I totally disagree. It most certainly can be done. how the hell can anyone think TS girls wont do something that GG's would, and already do! The issue is, Most guys that buy this stuff are more gay than straight. They produce what they want. "humiliated!" Wow, Most of these girls left humility years ago, on some crack vial infested alley-way In-between the boulevard of broken dreams and addiction ave. This site, and it's affiliates are proof positive that anything is possible.

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I didnt say it couldnt be done it wouldnt be cost productive. GG's in straight porn are paid alot more than T-girls. Add in BDSM and a nice increase in pay to a larger straight audience as opposed to BDSM T-girl( you know she will not agree with a starting rate of $1,000), and if guys that buy it are more gay than straight you have an even smaller demographic not to mention production costs. I dont see much profit being made.

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Originally Posted by kilakali

I didnt say it couldnt be done it wouldnt be cost productive. GG's in straight porn are paid alot more than T-girls. Add in BDSM and a nice increase in pay to a larger straight audience as opposed to BDSM T-girl( you know she will not agree with a starting rate of $1,000), and if guys that buy it are more gay than straight you have an even smaller demographic not to mention production costs. I dont see much profit being made.

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From a financial stand point it sounds like a bad idea, but them again you'll never know what may happen.

Tg's as submissives sites are out there Abused Black Trannies and Extreme Ladyboys, no U.S.A models but tg's are tg's and it does fill that niche you are looking for.

I reckon you guys might be surprised to hear that in general tg's are paid more than genetic girls in porn. I also believe that there are tons of tg's that would be up for being bound and gagged, though the ratio is probably more in favor of new girls filling the role more so than the certified porn stars, but you don't know until you ask.

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Originally Posted by Remy757Photog

Tg's as submissives sites are out there Abused Black Trannies and Extreme Ladyboys, no U.S.A models but tg's are tg's and it does fill that niche you are looking for.

I reckon you guys might be surprised to hear that in general tg's are paid more than genetic girls in porn. I also believe that there are tons of tg's that would be up for being bound and gagged, though the ratio is probably more in favor of new girls filling the role more so than the certified porn stars, but you don't know until you ask.

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What do you mean in general? GG's doing a generic scene are paid around $500 per scene add in different acts i.e. anal, facials, etc can go upwards to $2,000 per scene. Its highly that girls do more than 1 scene per day. Companies like Vivid and Falcon pay more not to mention bigger name stars recieve $10,000. Also alot of the women make their money doing tours where many have racked up 6 figures annually. Im just curious as what you mean because im real cool friends with Vanity possibly the biggest name right now in T-girl porn, and she doesnt make nearly as much as some GG' pornstars I know. Are you reffering to small comapnies vs. big companies pay rates?

Abused Black Trannies is through Niche Castle(not highly reputable) which streams alot of low budget Brasillian fluff porn.

I'm guessing he means on average, not star to star. Most likely if you just was going to get new girls to do a scene it would cost more for a tg then a gg, and to me that makes some sense.

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Originally Posted by kilakali

Good luck on trying to find T girls who would want to do that, and if they did im sure they would be asking for a large sum of money. Its hard enough to find girls wanting to do hardcore, but on top of that have themselves humliated and gagged? The high price model and the small size demographic doesnt sound cost efficient

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Makes sense but I think the demand would be filled as far as consumers go. The porn that you can find on the net is astonishing and you would think there is no audience for such things like farting, scat and other extreme things but there is and Im sure it would be the case with a submissive TS site. As far as cost go I dont know much about that.

Even if there isnt a full site dedicated to submissive tgirls a scene or 2 would be nice every time an update is released at Transsex domination. Im sure this would bring in more new customers just for the 1 or 2 scenes with the roles reversed each week.

That said I have seen scenes here and there but they are few and far between and rarely involve black American tgirls.

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Originally Posted by Remy757Photog

Tg's as submissives sites are out there Abused Black Trannies and Extreme Ladyboys, no U.S.A models but tg's are tg's and it does fill that niche you are looking for.

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Those are two of my sites that I like, Abused Black Trannies goes a bit over the top with the lipistick smearing and all that for my taste, but I like the hardcore, take control, dominant and submissive aspect of the vids of both sites, where the dudes lay the pipe and the ladies love it. :)

I don't know what the deal is here in America with the hardcore vids being far and few in between with dominant dudes and submissive Tgirls, instead it seems to be the other way around as nycguy highlighted, Most guys that buy this stuff are more gay than straight, or as I would phrase it more into giving up the ass, than getting the ass when it comes to tgirls.

Its all cool in my book, just wished more black tgirls were getting it good from some brothers who want to handle their business, but if the market isn't there, it isn't there.

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Originally Posted by ballznnutzz

That said I have seen scenes here and there but they are few and far between and rarely involve black American tgirls.

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Telling me son, I'm starving to see some quality scenes where black tgirls are submissive, seems like I've spent far more time looking at dudes asses in videos getting pounded than tgirls when it comes to the black transsexuals.

The only way I guess it could work is as part of a hardcore niche of a larger site, shit I would enjoy seeing a big, black, juicy, round booty getting humped and pumped for a change.

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Originally Posted by kilakali

What do you mean in general? GG's doing a generic scene are paid around $500 per scene add in different acts i.e. anal, facials, etc can go upwards to $2,000 per scene. Its highly that girls do more than 1 scene per day. Companies like Vivid and Falcon pay more not to mention bigger name stars recieve $10,000. Also alot of the women make their money doing tours where many have racked up 6 figures annually. Im just curious as what you mean because im real cool friends with Vanity possibly the biggest name right now in T-girl porn, and she doesnt make nearly as much as some GG' pornstars I know. Are you reffering to small comapnies vs. big companies pay rates?

Abused Black Trannies is through Niche Castle(not highly reputable) which streams alot of low budget Brasillian fluff porn.

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Sorry I wasn't referring to Porn Stars that have made a name for themselves, more so the girls just getting into the industry, like you'd typically find on the websites. When it comes to dvd rates really do get bloated.

Madison has plenty of submissive vids on her site, And she is well known. Most of the girls on Transex are tops anyway. They are doing what comes natural for them. Madison loves being a bottom, at least on video, and thats what you mostly get from her. It's out there. In response to KALI, You dont buy what you dont like. It's not a smaller demographic, It's an untapped demographic, due to it not being readily available.

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Originally Posted by nycguy

Madison has plenty of submissive vids on her site, And she is well known. Most of the girls on Transex are tops anyway. They are doing what comes natural for them. Madison loves being a bottom, at least on video, and thats what you mostly get from her. It's out there. In response to KALI, You dont buy what you dont like. It's not a smaller demographic, It's an untapped demographic, due to it not being readily available.

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If you are referring to the Madison on bigdickbitch they quality of the videos I have seen from that site are terrible in comparison to groobys. bad lighting and even shittier camera quality and work. They may have improved since I last seen which is cool but thats still only one girl. I would like a site much like this one with diff girls updated weekly.

Unknowingly proved my point. Untapped!

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Originally Posted by ballznnutzz

If you are referring to the Madison on bigdickbitch they quality of the videos I have seen from that site are terrible in comparison to groobys. bad lighting and even shittier camera quality and work. They may have improved since I last seen which is cool but thats still only one girl. I would like a site much like this one with diff girls updated weekly.

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Not sure where you get your information but you are a bit off based and misinformed. 10,000 LOL a scene sorry but maybe a contract girl gets this for "x" amount of scenes but 10,000 a scene is HIGLY unlikely. I know for a fact of girls like Jenna Haze getting the 2500-3000 range. The average female pornstar is making 500-800 and the "average" ts is making 600-900 and thats mostly interent work for a ts..........Vaniity the biggest name? Sorry but Vaniitys web and video presence in the last two years has declined and I know personally what she charges as I just hired her and though its above the "average" she is certainly isnt the HIGHEST earning ts right now. For that honor you would have to direct your opinion to Gia Darling and myself who have both won Avn Award, both own our own production company therefore own all VOD rights, sales, and memberships for those AND make above the average in most dvd shoots! Also just because tgirls choose not too are make bad business decisions doesnt mean ladies like myself, Joanna Jet, Allanah Starr, and Gia Darling dont take advantage of branding our name from website, production company, hosting parties, store signings and more!

I know IM not the most popular ts but buisiness wise I have established myself just as Jenna or Belladonna when it comes to using my "celebrity" to host events, store signings (only ts to have this), website, and my own series and production company.....


HOwever finding tgirls to be abused in American for the current rates which are down from 2006-07 would limit alot but could be done!!

Its hard to compare the female vs Ts Pornstars because they have alot more offers and oppurtunities that we dont!

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Originally Posted by kilakali

What do you mean in general? GG's doing a generic scene are paid around $500 per scene add in different acts i.e. anal, facials, etc can go upwards to $2,000 per scene. Its highly that girls do more than 1 scene per day. Companies like Vivid and Falcon pay more not to mention bigger name stars recieve $10,000. Also alot of the women make their money doing tours where many have racked up 6 figures annually. Im just curious as what you mean because im real cool friends with Vanity possibly the biggest name right now in T-girl porn, and she doesnt make nearly as much as some GG' pornstars I know. Are you reffering to small comapnies vs. big companies pay rates?

Abused Black Trannies is through Niche Castle(not highly reputable) which streams alot of low budget Brasillian fluff porn.

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Originally Posted by WendyWilliams

Not sure where you get your information but you are a bit off based and misinformed. 10,000 LOL a scene sorry but maybe a contract girl gets this for "x" amount of scenes but 10,000 a scene is HIGLY unlikely. I know for a fact of girls like Jenna Haze getting the 2500-3000 range. The average female pornstar is making 500-800 and the "average" ts is making 600-900 and thats mostly interent work for a ts..........Vaniity the biggest name? Sorry but Vaniitys web and video presence in the last two years has declined and I know personally what she charges as I just hired her and though its above the "average" she is certainly isnt the HIGHEST earning ts right now. For that honor you would have to direct your opinion to Gia Darling and myself who have both won Avn Award, both own our own production company therefore own all VOD rights, sales, and memberships for those AND make above the average in most dvd shoots! Also just because tgirls choose not too are make bad business decisions doesnt mean ladies like myself, Joanna Jet, Allanah Starr, and Gia Darling dont take advantage of branding our name from website, production company, hosting parties, store signings and more!

I know IM not the most popular ts but buisiness wise I have established myself just as Jenna or Belladonna when it comes to using my "celebrity" to host events, store signings (only ts to have this), website, and my own series and production company.....


HOwever finding tgirls to be abused in American for the current rates which are down from 2006-07 would limit alot but could be done!!

Its hard to compare the female vs Ts Pornstars because they have alot more offers and oppurtunities that we dont!

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In regards to Vanity I stated possibly didnt say she IS. Highly unlikely? Maybe you have heard of Jenna Massoli? Jenna Jameson hands down the BIGGEST name in porn now retired. She made $60,000 in one day for a movie in 2001 you might want to read her book How to Make Love Like a Porn Star: A Cautionary Tale. I know this for a fact as Jay Grdina (former husband & pornstar/director) is a person I befriended at AVN in 2002. Maybe you heard of Maria Takagi? She signed a contract with Max A for more than $86,000 per movie for 30 movies do the math per scene its pretty simple.


http://www.listaholic.com/the-5-high...pornstars.html

I never said it DOESNT happen but its not common and I thought we were speaking on the "average".

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Originally Posted by WendyWilliams

I never said it DOESNT happen but its not common and I thought we were speaking on the "average".

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You were the one questioning and laughing at my comment about big name pornstars, and it being highly unlikely for them to make the kind of money I stated.

Ok guys, lets calm down a bit. Bottom line is some make lots of money, most don't in comparison. But you can still get plenty of hot girls to do submissive scenes. And i'm not just talking about humiliation. Its not humiliating to play the generic submissive female role.

I really been thinking about this also, I really don't want to see bounded and gagged or abuse, just a very pretty girl with nice tits being a bottom, in other words, getting fucked and sucking dick not fucking a guy or the guy sucking her stick, really for me I skip those parts in a video, it does nothing for me,
And I really do think that most guys that like seeing the girl as a top are more leaning to the gay side and that's what they most likely do in their personal life, which is ok for them, but not for me at all, so that's why i like it with the girl being strictly a bottom.

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Originally Posted by WendyWilliams

Not sure where you get your information but you are a bit off based and misinformed. 10,000 LOL a scene sorry but maybe a contract girl gets this for "x" amount of scenes but 10,000 a scene is HIGLY unlikely. I know for a fact of girls like Jenna Haze getting the 2500-3000 range. The average female pornstar is making 500-800 and the "average" ts is making 600-900 and thats mostly interent work for a ts..........Vaniity the biggest name? Sorry but Vaniitys web and video presence in the last two years has declined and I know personally what she charges as I just hired her and though its above the "average" she is certainly isnt the HIGHEST earning ts right now. For that honor you would have to direct your opinion to Gia Darling and myself who have both won Avn Award, both own our own production company therefore own all VOD rights, sales, and memberships for those AND make above the average in most dvd shoots! Also just because tgirls choose not too are make bad business decisions doesnt mean ladies like myself, Joanna Jet, Allanah Starr, and Gia Darling dont take advantage of branding our name from website, production company, hosting parties, store signings and more!

I know IM not the most popular ts but buisiness wise I have established myself just as Jenna or Belladonna when it comes to using my "celebrity" to host events, store signings (only ts to have this), website, and my own series and production company.....


HOwever finding tgirls to be abused in American for the current rates which are down from 2006-07 would limit alot but could be done!!

Its hard to compare the female vs Ts Pornstars because they have alot more offers and oppurtunities that we dont!

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This comment is a little off topic, but Wendy I just got a membership to interracialtgirlsex.com and I gotta admit... you are doing a damn good job. Some of the scenes are some of the best TG porn I have seen. And most of the scenes are what I like: guy topping (in some cases pounding the hell out of) the TG. :D

Only suggestion which I'm sure will come with time: less Brazilian and more updates. Your site gets an A- for nearly perfect in my book.

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Originally Posted by roninva

I really been thinking about this also, I really don't want to see bounded and gagged or abuse, just a very pretty girl with nice tits being a bottom, in other words, getting fucked and sucking dick not fucking a guy or the guy sucking her stick, really for me I skip those parts in a video, it does nothing for me,
And I really do think that most guys that like seeing the girl as a top are more leaning to the gay side and that's what they most likely do in their personal life, which is ok for them, but not for me at all, so that's why i like it with the girl being strictly a bottom.

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I agree with that 100%

You guys wanted to see the girls being dominated . . . so starting with Next Tuesday's update (August 4th, 2009) we will be adding scenes into TranSexDomination with the girls being dominated by the guys.

I have recruited a couple great new guys into the TranSexDom family and they have been tearing it up with our girls. The first few weeks feature Monica, Ariel Everitts, Lucia Miel, and Celeste!!!!! The scene with Celeste tied to the bed doggie style while new stud John Magnum fucks the hell out of her is AMAZING!!! Those two really hit it off and the sex was out of this world!

Check out TSD to see the new mix of girls as subs along with the regular dominant girls we always feature!

PLEASE post back with your thoughts and comments . . . . threads like this let us know what you want so we can go get it for you!

Thanks!!!!

PK Vegas

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Originally Posted by roninva

i Really Been Thinking About This Also, I Really Don't Want To See Bounded And Gagged Or Abuse, Just A Very Pretty Girl With Nice Tits Being A Bottom, In Other Words, Getting Fucked And Sucking Dick Not Fucking A Guy Or The Guy Sucking Her Stick, Really For Me I Skip Those Parts In A Video, It Does Nothing For Me,
And I Really Do Think That Most Guys That Like Seeing The Girl As A Top Are More Leaning To The Gay Side And That's What They Most Likely Do In Their Personal Life, Which Is Ok For Them, But Not For Me At All, So That's Why I Like It With The Girl Being Strictly A Bottom.

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Right On The Money.....thank You!!

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Originally Posted by PK Vegas

You guys wanted to see the girls being dominated . . . so starting with Next Tuesday's update (August 4th, 2009) we will be adding scenes into TranSexDomination with the girls being dominated by the guys.

I have recruited a couple great new guys into the TranSexDom family and they have been tearing it up with our girls. The first few weeks feature Monica, Ariel Everitts, Lucia Miel, and Celeste!!!!! The scene with Celeste tied to the bed doggie style while new stud John Magnum fucks the hell out of her is AMAZING!!! Those two really hit it off and the sex was out of this world!

Check out TSD to see the new mix of girls as subs along with the regular dominant girls we always feature!

PLEASE post back with your thoughts and comments . . . . threads like this let us know what you want so we can go get it for you!

Thanks!!!!

PK Vegas

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Looking good, nice to see this added to the site as well. Variety indeed. :)

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Originally Posted by BlkMuscleTop

Looking good, nice to see this added to the site as well. Variety indeed. :)

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If you have any ideas for scenes or particular girls you would like to see as Domme's or Subs just let me know and I see if I can set it up for you.

Thanks!

PK Vegas

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Originally Posted by PK Vegas

If you have any ideas for scenes or particular girls you would like to see as Domme's or Subs just let me know and I see if I can set it up for you.

Thanks!

PK Vegas

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Any girl with a pretty face and a BIG dick like Victoria Porsche, Natalia Coxx, Katie Coxx, etc. Also Melissa Mendez or Jessica Host might be nice for the non-Black girls.

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Originally Posted by bigdicki

Any girl with a pretty face and a BIG dick like Victoria Porsche, Natalia Coxx, Katie Coxx, etc. Also Melissa Mendez or Jessica Host might be nice for the non-Black girls.

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Natalia Coxxx, KAtie Coxx, and Jessica Host are three of my favorite girls and you can see two full length hardcore scenes with Natalia Coxxx, a very HOT hardcore with Katie Coxx, and several incredible hardcore scenes with Jessica Host on TranSexDomination already!

You can also be sure you will be seeing more of thesse ladies in the future. I will look into the other girls to see if we can get them on the site.

In the meantime go over to TranSexDomination and check out the scenes from the 3 girls mentioned above. THey are all incredible performers!!!

Thanks!

PK Vegas

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Originally Posted by PK Vegas

If you have any ideas for scenes or particular girls you would like to see as Domme's or Subs just let me know and I see if I can set it up for you.

Thanks!

PK Vegas

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Would love to see Victoria Porche, Ebony, Chyna, or India as a sub. :D:D

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Originally Posted by PK Vegas

Natalia Coxxx, KAtie Coxx, and Jessica Host are three of my favorite girls and you can see two full length hardcore scenes with Natalia Coxxx, a very HOT hardcore with Katie Coxx, and several incredible hardcore scenes with Jessica Host on TranSexDomination already!

You can also be sure you will be seeing more of thesse ladies in the future. I will look into the other girls to see if we can get them on the site.

In the meantime go over to TranSexDomination and check out the scenes from the 3 girls mentioned above. THey are all incredible performers!!!

Thanks!

PK Vegas

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Get them to bottom though. Get any of these chicks in this thread as well to BOTTOM!!

http://www.black-tgirls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1219

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Originally Posted by ballznnutzz

Get them to bottom though. Get any of these chicks in this thread as well to BOTTOM!!

http://www.black-tgirls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1219

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You guys will definitely see Jessica Host as a bottom and I am working on Natalia Coxxx (Love Ya Natalia because I know you will be reading this thread :cool: ) I will talk to Katie and the other girls about it as well.

THanks for the feedback!

PK Vegas

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Originally Posted by PK Vegas

You guys will definitely see Jessica Host as a bottom and I am working on Natalia Coxxx (Love Ya Natalia because I know you will be reading this thread :cool: ) I will talk to Katie and the other girls about it as well.

THanks for the feedback!

PK Vegas

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Glad to hear PK, I love the shorties that love to give that ass up to daddy. :)

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Originally Posted by PK Vegas

You guys will definitely see Jessica Host as a bottom and I am working on Natalia Coxxx (Love Ya Natalia because I know you will be reading this thread :cool: ) I will talk to Katie and the other girls about it as well.

THanks for the feedback!

PK Vegas

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Yea I guess I should have been more descriptive. I want to see those girls... and other girls with pretty faces and big dicks, being submissive and getting topped. I want to see them butussies get banged out.... maybe even by 2 dudes. The girls as tops and dominating do nothing for me.

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Originally Posted by bigdicki

The girls as tops and dominating do nothing for me.

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CO SIGNING with you LIKE A BANK LOAN !!

silly question
has katie coxx ever shown her bootyhole in a video or pix ??:(

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Originally Posted by TICOFURY22

CO SIGNING with you LIKE A BANK LOAN !!

silly question
has katie coxx ever shown her bootyhole in a video or pix ??:(

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Now that you mention it I can't remember any time that she has. :o