How to treat, and not to treat, TGirls

I recently posted this on Tgirl Forums in Canada and would be interested to see the reaction on this forum as I appreciate all TGirls of all ethnic backgrounds.

I have had several conversations with TGirls and have followed several threads on this forum and as an older member of the forum with many years of TGirl contacts I thought some comments may be helpful to those who are new to these wonderful experiences. Many of my comments have been addressed before but it never hurts to post some reminders.

While there are a hard core (no pun) of guys here who are regular TGirl visitors and know what is required to make these encounters most enjoyable events there are many others who do not approach such visits with the attitude or demeanor to make it a success.
Some of examples are –
- turn up drunk
- have not addressed their personal hygiene
- treat the girl as a sex object
- are abusive and arrogant
- insist on extra activities that have already been defined
- try to renegotiate agreed contributions
- if you make an appointment, keep it, or have the courtesy to phone
and cancel
There are also those who get a thrill out of sending abusive emails and making obscene phone calls. It was recently posted that there were over 30,000 members of this forum yet less than 1000 are usually active. I would suggest that a large percentage have never made personal contact with a TGirl and are here for the thrill and several participate in the emails and phone calls.

Many men do not consider what a TGirl goes through to achieve their level of beauty, the abuse they have taken, and take, on a daily basis, and the danger that lurks everytime they open a door to a stranger. Most girls are very particular about their health, and yours, and many have activity rules that should be respected.

While we must be realistic and understand that this is a business and if you have a successful encounter then the girl wants you to return. If the connection is successful many girls will make you feel as if you are making love and not just having sex – a great psychological difference – and you will return. Most girls only want to meet a decent guy who shows them the respect they deserve and with whom they can relax and enjoy some quality time.

TGirls are TGirls, beautiful women, with a little extra to offer, not TV’s, Drag Queens, or Crossdressers that even in today’s society this distinction is not widely known or recognized.

While there are exceptions to everything, and you will have bad encounters, if you do your research, check reviews, and be a decent guy then there is no reason why your love of TGirls will not be rewarded with great times.

I am also one of the older members of this community and I have strong feelings about this subject.

1) Tgirls are not freaks. They are human beings and should be treated with respect.

2) Tgirls are femenine, intelligent and strong. They are worthy of real friendship and love. Forget all the prejudice, and keep in mind when you meet a girl that friendship and love are real possibilities.

3) It takes a mature person and a lot of work to deal with all the issues that a relationship with a tgirl opens right on your face. If you are not ready for it, do not mislead the lady, she has feelings and can get hurt.

4) The images we see on sites like this one are exactly that: images. There are real people behind the images. I see these sites as ways to make people aware of the beauty of these ladies, just like painters and artists of the past showed the beauty of the human body.

Great thread, and kudos to the OP for starrting it, and to those
that responded.

I'd also like to hear the perspectives of men that have been in
relationships with transwomen.

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Originally Posted by jimwa

I recently posted this on Tgirl Forums in Canada and would be interested to see the reaction on this forum as I appreciate all TGirls of all ethnic backgrounds.

I have had several conversations with TGirls and have followed several threads on this forum and as an older member of the forum with many years of TGirl contacts I thought some comments may be helpful to those who are new to these wonderful experiences. Many of my comments have been addressed before but it never hurts to post some reminders.

While there are a hard core (no pun) of guys here who are regular TGirl visitors and know what is required to make these encounters most enjoyable events there are many others who do not approach such visits with the attitude or demeanor to make it a success.
Some of examples are –
- turn up drunk
- have not addressed their personal hygiene
- treat the girl as a sex object
- are abusive and arrogant
- insist on extra activities that have already been defined
- try to renegotiate agreed contributions
- if you make an appointment, keep it, or have the courtesy to phone
and cancel
There are also those who get a thrill out of sending abusive emails and making obscene phone calls. It was recently posted that there were over 30,000 members of this forum yet less than 1000 are usually active. I would suggest that a large percentage have never made personal contact with a TGirl and are here for the thrill and several participate in the emails and phone calls.

Many men do not consider what a TGirl goes through to achieve their level of beauty, the abuse they have taken, and take, on a daily basis, and the danger that lurks everytime they open a door to a stranger. Most girls are very particular about their health, and yours, and many have activity rules that should be respected.

While we must be realistic and understand that this is a business and if you have a successful encounter then the girl wants you to return. If the connection is successful many girls will make you feel as if you are making love and not just having sex – a great psychological difference – and you will return. Most girls only want to meet a decent guy who shows them the respect they deserve and with whom they can relax and enjoy some quality time.

TGirls are TGirls, beautiful women, with a little extra to offer, not TV’s, Drag Queens, or Crossdressers that even in today’s society this distinction is not widely known or recognized.

While there are exceptions to everything, and you will have bad encounters, if you do your research, check reviews, and be a decent guy then there is no reason why your love of TGirls will not be rewarded with great times.

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What you have here is universal with any woman TS or GG it's proper all the time. same thing that GG escorts say about how to be when you meet them also

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Originally Posted by jimwa

I recently posted this on Tgirl Forums in Canada and would be interested to see the reaction on this forum as I appreciate all TGirls of all ethnic backgrounds.

I have had several conversations with TGirls and have followed several threads on this forum and as an older member of the forum with many years of TGirl contacts I thought some comments may be helpful to those who are new to these wonderful experiences. Many of my comments have been addressed before but it never hurts to post some reminders.

While there are a hard core (no pun) of guys here who are regular TGirl visitors and know what is required to make these encounters most enjoyable events there are many others who do not approach such visits with the attitude or demeanor to make it a success.
Some of examples are –
- turn up drunk
- have not addressed their personal hygiene
- treat the girl as a sex object
- are abusive and arrogant
- insist on extra activities that have already been defined
- try to renegotiate agreed contributions
- if you make an appointment, keep it, or have the courtesy to phone
and cancel
There are also those who get a thrill out of sending abusive emails and making obscene phone calls. It was recently posted that there were over 30,000 members of this forum yet less than 1000 are usually active. I would suggest that a large percentage have never made personal contact with a TGirl and are here for the thrill and several participate in the emails and phone calls.

Many men do not consider what a TGirl goes through to achieve their level of beauty, the abuse they have taken, and take, on a daily basis, and the danger that lurks everytime they open a door to a stranger. Most girls are very particular about their health, and yours, and many have activity rules that should be respected.

While we must be realistic and understand that this is a business and if you have a successful encounter then the girl wants you to return. If the connection is successful many girls will make you feel as if you are making love and not just having sex – a great psychological difference – and you will return. Most girls only want to meet a decent guy who shows them the respect they deserve and with whom they can relax and enjoy some quality time.

TGirls are TGirls, beautiful women, with a little extra to offer, not TV’s, Drag Queens, or Crossdressers that even in today’s society this distinction is not widely known or recognized.

While there are exceptions to everything, and you will have bad encounters, if you do your research, check reviews, and be a decent guy then there is no reason why your love of TGirls will not be rewarded with great times.

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Treat 'em rough, make 'em love ya lol

You can do all that and still get screwed over by some of these girls. So whats your point? This isnt an end-all-solve-all guide to dealing with TS. It's more like a guide on how to set yourself up for failure. Some girls are really good, treat them good once they show that they can appreciate it. Everyone else - survival of the fittest.

you guys fucking kill me with this shit

"they're not sex objects, there human"

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:(

Cry me a fucking river

If she's a hoe, she's a hoe...if a hoe sells ass, dick and blowjobs by the hour, what the fuck is that...?

I try to be nice but some of you dudes are what I call "socially challenged", dumb smart types...probably the valedictorian of your really exclusive colleges but are as socially inept in the ways of the world as one can possibly be.

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

you guys fucking kill me with this shit

"they're not sex objects, there human"

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:(

Cry me a fucking river

If she's a hoe, she's a hoe...if a hoe sells ass, dick and blowjobs by the hour, what the fuck is that...?

I try to be nice but some of you dudes are what I call "socially challenged", dumb smart types...probably the valedictorian of your really exclusive colleges but are as socially inept in the ways of the world as one can possibly be.

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Well, if they weren't hoes, none of us would be here on this lovely forum now would we! lol.... I don't think Mr.KO is saying that they shouldn't be hoes, he's just saying not to glorify them. I do agree. If a girl is a prostitute, it doesn't make any sense to try and apply all of these relationship theories to trying to date someone from that track of life. It's just stupid. Let her quit on her own accord then date her. You can't turn a hoe into a housewife. You are setting yourself up for failure.

However, there are t-girls out there who work 9 to 5s, who don't sell their bodies or who work in the TS/Gay/Lesbian entertainment industry (i.e. Showgirls) I see no reason not to apply that relationship thinking to those if that's your thing. A girl who sells her body sexually to the highest bidder though? I mean come on.....pay her and keep it moving. Don't try to make her something she's not.

Just my two cents.

"I Know, that If I stay Stunting;
All these girls only gonna want one thing;
I spend my whole life Good Will Hunting
Only good gonna come, is when I'm Cumming"

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Originally Posted by DirtySouth

Well, if they weren't hoes, none of us would be here on this lovely forum now would we! lol.... I don't think Mr.KO is saying that they shouldn't be hoes, he's just saying not to glorify them. I do agree. If a girl is a prostitute, it doesn't make any sense to try and apply all of these relationship theories to trying to date someone from that track of life. It's just stupid. Let her quit on her own accord then date her. You can't turn a hoe into a housewife. You are setting yourself up for failure.

However, there are t-girls out there who work 9 to 5s, who don't sell their bodies or who work in the TS/Gay/Lesbian entertainment industry (i.e. Showgirls) I see no reason not to apply that relationship thinking to those if that's your thing. A girl who sells her body sexually to the highest bidder though? I mean come on.....pay her and keep it moving. Don't try to make her something she's not.

Just my two cents.

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You hit the nail on the head...I treat a lady like a lady and a hoe like a hoe...it is what it is

Can I ask you guys a question?
Why do you think its ok to call an escrt and think that because you think your dick is big that we will give you a freebie?
Do I get free rent becaues I look better than my landlords wife?
And why do you guys ASSume that because you have a dick thats all we want or need?

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Originally Posted by TsVanessa69

Can I ask you guys a question?
Why do you think its ok to call an escrt and think that because you think your dick is big that we will give you a freebie?
Do I get free rent becaues I look better than my landlords wife?
And why do you guys ASSume that because you have a dick thats all we want or need?

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1. I don't fuck with women who are only interested in gettin money from me
2. All that 'I got a big dick' talk is for those young dudes and young minded chicks, real women prefer dudes who can fuck for more than 10 minutes...its a plus if he can fuck and has a big dick I assume.
3. Plenty of chicks have hustled their way into free rent situations, shit, that's what shorties should be fucking for...fuck for a house, not a bag of weed and a pair of shoes.

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

1. I don't fuck with women who are only interested in gettin money from me
2. All that 'I got a big dick' talk is for those young dudes and young minded chicks, real women prefer dudes who can fuck for more than 10 minutes...its a plus if he can fuck and has a big dick I assume.
3. Plenty of chicks have hustled their way into free rent situations, shit, that's what shorties should be fucking for...fuck for a house, not a bag of weed and a pair of shoes.

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I dont understand why guys call Eros ads with that bullshit.
And its ALL ages.
Guyts sending text to my phone of dick pics sayin the shouldnt have to pay for sex.
Any bitchass who is a hit it and run nigga is gonna pay me.
Dick pics disgust me and I dont like to be bothered on my daymn job.

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

1. I don't fuck with women who are only interested in gettin money from me
2. All that 'I got a big dick' talk is for those young dudes and young minded chicks, real women prefer dudes who can fuck for more than 10 minutes...its a plus if he can fuck and has a big dick I assume.
3. Plenty of chicks have hustled their way into free rent situations, shit, that's what shorties should be fucking for...fuck for a house, not a bag of weed and a pair of shoes.

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BTW, gettin a piar of $700 Manolo's aint all that bad now!:D

I Can Tell Thts Gonna Be On Ur Wish Lists

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Originally Posted by TsVanessa69

Can I ask you guys a question?
Why do you think its ok to call an escrt and think that because you think your dick is big that we will give you a freebie?
Do I get free rent becaues I look better than my landlords wife?
And why do you guys ASSume that because you have a dick thats all we want or need?

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Not sure if that type of dude is lurking on this site, but i would say that i expect what you said i was paying for.... This is why i'm real critical of the ad and would like to be as critical on the phone but the ads come with the disclaimers about not wanting to talk sex over the phone. So my thing is ok i show up and give up my dough and shorty tell me alright what you wanna talk about (Huuuuun, I don't want to talk i want baby) claiming her ad was for companionship. :mad:

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Originally Posted by Handandsom

Not sure if that type of dude is lurking on this site, but i would say that i expect what you said i was paying for.... This is why i'm real critical of the ad and would like to be as critical on the phone but the ads come with the disclaimers about not wanting to talk sex over the phone. So my thing is ok i show up and give up my dough and shorty tell me alright what you wanna talk about (Huuuuun, I don't want to talk i want baby) claiming her ad was for companionship. :mad:

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I'm assuming they only try that shit on sucker ass dudes, cuz generally speaking from what i've read on here, this is probably why most girls don't like to date hood black dudes because they know trying that shit will get they asses ten toes up

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Originally Posted by TsVanessa69

BTW, gettin a piar of $700 Manolo's aint all that bad now!:D

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2 years when those Manolo's are out of style, that condo/rowhouse/house is still fashionably comfy and warm...lol

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

2 years when those Manolo's are out of style, that condo/rowhouse/house is still fashionably comfy and warm...lol

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Manolo's NEVER go out of style. Especially the ones I wore in my last BTG shoot.
But I seem to get that you are hinting that you pay girls rent?
I ont mind paying my own rent, because the person who would pay my rent would not be a person that I would be in a relationship with because of common interests and mutual attraction.
So it wouldn't be right.
And I don't like people holding shit over my head, controlling me or telling me what to do.
I have a girlfriend who get her rent paid, but the guy she spends her time with, is not the same guy paying her rent.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

I'm assuming they only try that shit on sucker ass dudes, cuz generally speaking from what i've read on here, this is probably why most girls don't like to date hood black dudes because they know trying that shit will get they asses ten toes up

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Hood black dudes won't pay $200 or $250 to be with us.
They want to give you $50 and brag about how big their dick is, or as one guy did recently, stole the $200 to get to me, then walk out with my $500 phone and laugh at me and say he would get away with it and nobody would care and nothing would happen.
And he was right.
Thus we for our own safety, will deal with the guys who are on real shit not grimey shit.
And as far as sexually graphic convo on the phone, those guys are jacking off when they make the call, and the session decription is the finishing touch to get them off.
Or its the cops building a better case against you when they bust you.
So to avaiod both, I have a website and a pay phone chat line.
So I will get as grapic as you want and still get paid.
You guys clearly dont have a clue on what our end of the deal is.
Its not that pot of gold and easy money like you think.
Anybody who wants to pull the race card, ask a black ts!
Chanel and I go thru the esxact same shit!

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Originally Posted by MrKnockOut

you guys fucking kill me with this shit

"they're not sex objects, there human"

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:(

Cry me a fucking river

If she's a hoe, she's a hoe...if a hoe sells ass, dick and blowjobs by the hour, what the fuck is that...?

I try to be nice but some of you dudes are what I call "socially challenged", dumb smart types...probably the valedictorian of your really exclusive colleges but are as socially inept in the ways of the world as one can possibly be.

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So are you calling me a hoe?
And if you are, do you say that I'm NOT human?
Or that because I'm not stupid and being used I'm not worthy of respect?
Yes, I am a hoe.
No I am not ashamed to admit it.
But I respect everybody for who they are and help those I can
Which is more than I can say about those alleged "good girls".

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Originally Posted by TsVanessa69

Can I ask you guys a question?
Why do you think its ok to call an escrt and think that because you think your
dick is big that we will give you a freebie?

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...because 9 out of 10 TS escorts fell for that and allowed a freebie. I watched a friend of mine do it day in day out for years. Hell, I pulled it off myself back in the day. Why change the script?

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Do I get free rent becaues I look better than my landlords wife?

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Yes probably, but if you look better than her and fuck him better than her. You aint gonna get it just off looks.

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And why do you guys ASSume that because you have a dick thats all we want or need?

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Because thats how most of the TS escorts act. If you're half way decent looking, tell them you take em to the wendy's for a burger and dick em down when you get back to the crib, they'll take that over the $ almost everytime. A lot of escorts value that love bullshit over their dough. Dudes wouldnt come at you like that if it didn't work on someone else already.

Times are changing. TS know other TS and spread info about guys who they may encounter so one girl doesnt get caught up after the other. We are doing the same thing. Guys know who's down for the free fuck and how to come at ya to get it. Time to step it up!