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Ok put up or shut up.
You need to be in or able to get to; NYC, Vegas, LA.
Male.
18-45-ish.
Decent looking, good shape and great personality with a sense of humour and impeccable hygiene. Can top the best TS black models. Oral both ways.
Must be willing to take an AIM test although penatrative sex will be with condoms.
Apply, WITH PHOTOS and full stats, details and why you want to do this - to admin@grooby.com
...........i'm shy...............lol
looks like i need to hit the gym hard body for this one
Can I bring my Sunfire mask?!?:D
lol poor Sunfire, that's one character that I always liked and doesn' get enough attention. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by nycguy
So true, the guy can't get a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remy757Photog
I wanna submit votes for talent cause all the guys usually willing to do movies sans a mask are usually puke worthy lol
Well the American ones I loves me some Brazillians and Dominicans
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If more American BTGs looked like the Brazilian TGs, this wouldnt be a problem LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by TSSexyChanel
If I could get a pep talk I would do it. Wouldnt even think about using a mask :D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by TSSexyChanel
We Brasillians love you back...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by TSSexyChanel
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Originally Posted by DirtySouth
if only it come true then i wud def be down
Exactly! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mrvice
For real though, what would it take for you guys to appear on video?
All of seanchai's money!Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtySouth
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Wow! lol.. Has this forum gone soft, or is it because dirty said it?!? So all that smack the rest of u guys say in here about "she's the best i ever seen" "I'd wife her in a second" "Shorty is beautiful" All of that was just talk? And just to stoke the fires higher! The only Brazillians who can make that claim are the beige and white ones. Name one black brazillian who looks better than the top 50 on this site! Then explain why they are not on the list! When Seanchai comes down the color line folks got things to say, But give you pickaninies one chance to devalue BTG's and you all come running like tricks to VIP! You should all be ashamed of yourselves for this taudry behavior! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtySouth
I was about to call it out ... until I read it in context of a reply to Chanel's rather ... hmmm ... biting post.Quote:
Originally Posted by nycguy
Personally, the Brazilian girls don't do it for me so much - might be the hairy legs.
Easily answered.... Julia Jones can trump any of the top 50 girls especially now that she has breast. She hasnt done a shoot in 3 years on this site would be one reason why she is not on the list. Julia has a rating of 4.66 higher than any other girls I have viewed so far, although she only has 22 votes which goes back to my first reason. Im pretty sure that 98% of the members dont know Portuguese so langauge would be an issue as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by nycguy
The thing is Brasillian T girls and GG's are oversaturated on the net. Thats one thing that makes BTG a great site its dominated with American BTG's, with just a dash of Brasillian flavor to add to the mix. Dont know if you guys have noticed but recently some other sites are recruiting hard for U.S. tgirls and using the Brasillians for filler material.
Back on topic I have noticed Billy Long is out there doing hardcore, and Castro has moved onto the Tgirl scene.
Kila, this is one time where I gotta pull ya card joe. The Brasilians are fine, many of them, but as a whole I've seen more Black tgs here in the US that do it for me. I'm not knocking the Brasilenas by any means, but we got more Black dimes over here.Quote:
Originally Posted by kilakali
Whoa... BD I didnt say the Brasillian BTGs were better looking overall. I just answered Nycguys question he proposed. As a matter of fact I know a few girls who are not even on this site or porn (BTG's in the U.S.) that would topple most Brasillian BTG and many Blk GG's. Of course this is all about opinion and everyone has one...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdicki
My first scene with Jessica HostQuote:
Originally Posted by DirtySouth
Well her comment was made towards the men. I can sorta see where she is coming from, as far as the level of fitness is concerned. I know that years of excessive American living has giving me quite the spare tire over the last few less active years. Nothing keeps you slim like poverty! smh...Quote:
Originally Posted by seanchai
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Originally Posted by kilakali
Ok, so your the only one who has seen her recently! doesn't explain the replies on this thread. If she had an updated set here and was placed on the list here, she would be the exception, but, she doesn't and therefore isn't. I'm not really sure what Portuguese has to do with anything! I mean, I know a picture is worth 1000 words, but they don't actually speak. There are plenty of Brazillian girls on this site that people like. I myself like a bunch of them. But! There is not this overwhelming brazillian girl love on the rating system that justifies the comments made. If you followed that course of analysis on my comment you would see what I mean. But hey, I can always respect the opinion of a guy willing to rep his set. :)
P.S.- WTH does Billy Long and Castro have to do with the topic? just asking:confused::cool:
P.S.S.- Shout out to Com315 feels good to get back to the analytical side of the NYCGUY! ;)
Most complaints you see on Brasilian girls profiles on this site is that they dont understand what the girls are saying. Point being that may be the reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by nycguy
Billy Long is black and a new male performer with him and also mentioning Castro (who is also blk). Fits well on topic of blk male performers needed.
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Originally Posted by kilakali
Well The biggest problem to me is guys like to keep themselves on the low they're afraid to hear "the homeboi" say a dog I seen you on a video fucking or getting fucked by a tranny!
Then we need to be able to find man that want to do porn and not just get a chance to fuck whoever they want, Wearing a mask in porn? Who does that? Do we see that in straight porn? Why the hell do we want someone in our video's wearing a mask? From my experience it's harder to connect, thank god Dirty lost that video!
What does a brazilian have that a black girl doesnt? I've seen just as many of them busted as I seen black, as well as asians and every other race also. Us as African american are always so quick to put our race down and get offended when the next race does it.
We are transexuals we shall over come one day, and none of us here that responded on this topic may ever be here to see it. Until that day comes getting black big dick men who can fuck the hell out of us without a mask that health isnt at risk, blah blah blah and all the other problems that come with it will forever be a problem.
Well stated and I agree especially on the mask part.Quote:
Originally Posted by k.logan
So is that a no on the Sunfire mask?Quote:
Originally Posted by kilakali
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Originally Posted by k.logan
SO TRUE!!
my question to my friend would be? You were watching my movie?
Kennedy,
you hit the spot on that one.... I mean the point. :o I for one do not even look at the porn where the guy is masked... it don't work for me.
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Originally Posted by k.logan
i def agree with you my dear
By my statement, I wasnt referring to skin tone. I was actually referring to all forms of physical appearance besides that.Quote:
Originally Posted by nycguy
I have seen plenty of caramel and darker skinned Brazilians that are just as fine (i.e. Priscilla) as the lighter ones. I was actually bringing up the issue of overall weight, body shape, correct surgeries, etc. It seems when it comes to transitions, the Brazilians must have a better system. Brazilian women (and TS) overall take better care of their bodies than American women/TS. Americans are more prone to over eating and cutting corners on surgeries. The lot of them come out looking closer to their female counterparts while most (not all) of our American BTGs come out looking far different from their female counterparts - usually an over exaggerated version of the female form.
This weighs heavily with guys getting on video. Nobody with something to loose is gonna get put on blast just for any girl calling herself a BTG especially if she is not on point looks wise. If most of our girls started looking like these girls > http://www.black-tgirls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2126 < then we would see more guys doing videos. What happens is that once these girls look great like this, they don't do porn anymore.
Finally, the unknown factor is that out of the decent guys who do appear on videos (i.e. solo girl sites) they have a stigma with filming in front of another straight up guy. They will let a tranny or gay guy film their scene - not a regular guy like them. Thats too close to mixing their fetish with reality; someone who can actually point them out in everyday life as opposed to never seeing the tranny/gay filmer again.
Actually, you can find a lot of black porn where the male actors wear mask. Some of these sites have guys with masks AND fake dicks. It's not as rare as you think. I can provide plenty of examples. However, I do agree with your point. There is a certain level of disconnect with male actors in mask. Then again, if it is filmed with more concentration on the girl, it doesnt matter if the guy has a mask on or not. Most times in the amateur arena, it is filmed wrong so a guy wearing a mask makes the scene look wack. Surfers most likely dont care about the males face.Quote:
Originally Posted by k.logan
I've stated this in my previous post. On a per ratio basis, they are in better shape, better prepared for scenes and perform better overall. This is not my opinion, this is what the masses feel obviously. They're are tons of Brazilian material on the net with very few sites dedicated to American TS and especially black american TS.Quote:
What does a brazilian have that a black girl doesnt? I've seen just as many of them busted as I seen black, as well as asians and every other race also. Us as African american are always so quick to put our race down and get offended when the next race does it.
It has nothing to do with putting anyone down, its a call for those in the industry to step up. I know I went on a personal crusade myself to make black tgirls look better in the industry, so I have solid ground to speak on. I'm actually saying that black girls can present themselves far better than they do currently. Aside from the handful of black girls that take the adult industry serious (Natassia, Natalia, Jade, Madison, etc.) , most of our performers don't take it serious and it shows in their performance and look. Black girls are far too in demand but they don't take it serious. When most of our former Black-Tgirl models start looking blazing enough to pull in better male talent, they usually frown on doing porn again or most feel they are at "celebrity" status and want 3x the pay when really the demand is not high enough for them to justify the pay.
For example > http://www.black-tgirls.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2126 < I would like to see them on this site again, but odds are they wont appear again. Totally not a bad thing, they are gorgeous and they have a right to choose, but this is apart of what really happens. This goes unspoken.
As a culture, no one here is implying that other races are better than our black. I above all people have championed that...BUT....blow for blow, they're are far more and better looking Brazilians and Asians IN PORN than black girls.
That day is already here. I see that all the time on sites like yours, Big Dick Bitch, Eve, Tracey, etc. The problem is that these same black males do not want to film for a large scale site and/or in front of other (male) producers.Quote:
We are transexuals we shall over come one day, and none of us here that responded on this topic may ever be here to see it. Until that day comes getting black big dick men who can fuck the hell out of us without a mask that health isnt at risk, blah blah blah and all the other problems that come with it will forever be a problem.
I filmed a gang bang scene one time for a solo site. All three guys turned down filming and being paid for this site but would rather shoot for free on a solo site. I guess they think it wont be seen, but some of the solo sites are just as popular as this one. Go figure.
So Logan, why don't you give us some help in this area since you have experience. Maybe we can learn something. How do you suppose it could become easier to recruit better male talent for BTG?
There is no contest. There are way many more Black or tgirls perceived to be Black from Brasil that are doing porn so I would agree with Dirty with that bit of clarification.
Are there more tgirls in porn from Brazil because the market is clamoring for it or because its accepted more? I don't believe the financial aspect is more of a factor there than here particularly given the rise of the Brasilian economy and the short-term stagnation of ours.
Thank you sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdicki
There more Brazilian tgirls in porn there basically because you get more for less. There are tons of gorgeous looking girls down there and they shoot at great rates (with great performances) since the USD conversion is favorable for producers.
You can go down there and pay a top knotch, gorgeous gal and she will give you a helluva performance at a great price.
Or...
You can stay in America with majority of your models who show up late, unprepared, inexperienced with a poor performance and want double the going rate.
Once again, this is not my opinion, these are the facts. Otherwise you would see a lot more American oriented shemale sites on the web. There are only a handful of American BTGs that are stepping up to the plate when there is much more room for a full scale takeover. I think our lovely blacktgirls are selling themselves short.
I'll use the current black shemale of the year, Natalia Coxx. I did one shoot with her and she became a star overnight. Why? Not only did she look good, but she has an enthusiastic performance and she is willing to become a star. She's willing to show up for the shoots and perform. Not only talent but initiative.
There are tons of girls that are escorts, have already done porn, and so on, that are perfect candidates. They either squander the opportunity, get themselves banned or just flat out don't take it serious.
If these high caliber BTGs in America would take center stage, you would see A LOT more black males coming out to perform with them.
Just to add on what DS said in regards to performance. Brasillian TG's have no qualms with performing with other TG's, GG's, or Gay/Bi guys. Where as most American girls will have a big issue about that.
Child please, if the money right I'mma dike with any bitch they bring lol:p and I have to say to me alot of the brasillian and asian girls have it easier, in alot of the countrys these girls come from you can just walk into a pharmacy and buy hormones :mad:and the surgeries cost next to nothing,not stepping on any toes or anything because I've meet some girls that just come out looking gorgeous,American and brasillian my girlfriend was just in thailand were she met some transgender girls who have been ts since they were kids not teens but kids:eek: and when they got on camera I could'nt believe they were'nt GG but I say stop trying to compare the girls so much and pit them against each other so much and in a perfect world everything else will work itself out :D but were not so the war rages onQuote:
Originally Posted by kilakali
I do agree with you that its a little easier in Brazil and definitely in Thailand due to the greater acceptance but remember even though they have access to lower cost procedures and 'mones it still doesn't make it cheap to them because they make a helluva lot less than we do given exchange rates (particularly in Thailand). The Thai and Brazilian procedures are not usually as professional because of less regulation as well. So think about this way, some of the Thai and Brasilenas save up what is for them, some Tiffany's class stacks to get their SRS, but go into some bootleg ass doctor who winds up giving them a Grade D, Dollar Store class pussy and titties. It ain't easy nowhere boo unless you're rich and privileged. :rolleyes: :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by carmencream
We will agree to disagree:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdicki
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Some good points Carmen. With the fact that the ladyboys in Thailand don't get particularly ostracized by their communities, they do have it easier.
Dirty made some points also, many BTG's just simply aren't prepared to put a bit time in, show up for shoots at their best and just be cool ... not even wanting them to do other trannies/girls on camera, just to be ontime and shit. Sexxy Jade, Natalia and Logan are three that stand out as being the anti-thesis of that.
You still my boo. Give Pinky a kiss for me. :p ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by carmencream
Good points. I agree with you but there is a flip side to it that I would like to add Carmen.Quote:
Originally Posted by carmencream
The latin/asian girls may have easy access to these surgeries and meds in those countries but our homegrown girls have access to a larger income and resources to obtain these same drugs. Its is quite easy for most of these girls here to make thousands of dollars in a week or two, so the money they make is well enough to get access to the finest of meds and doctors.
I've ran across plenty of girls who will skimp on getting quality photos taken, quality surgeries, decent place to live or invest in a proper web site - but are quick to score on some drugs or buy a $1800 dog.
As seanchai said, there are only a handful of girls that obviously are putting money into themselves and their image, but this is a number that needs to be more than a handful IMO.
Too many times have I seen girls waist the vast amount of money they make instead of investing it in themselves, their image and their quality of life just to fall back and claim that its unfair to compare them to other shemales in third world countries.
Agreed! American girls (especially black) have a huge problem with performing with other TGs. By performing, we mean sex. Anal penetration, Oral, actual sex! Not posing with each other gawking at each other's dicks. Thats lame. We have all seen those sets and hate them. Tag teaming a male doesnt count either if the girls arent fucking/sucking each other too. The only real American sex scene that I have seen lately is Kimber James getting drilled by Natassia Dream. Why cant more American TS do these? When it does happen, the white girls will do it but are black girls - never.Quote:
Originally Posted by kilakali
Carmen - thanks for speaking up - you may be down for it, but how many quality girls could you find that would do it with you? On top of that, just because they show up doesnt meant they can get it up and perform to standard. That all weighs in too.