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I was wondering what happend to this former model from the philadelphia area. I thought she was going to have a promising porn career. She went by the name Asia, and her pic is still in some Black-TGirls ads.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...100664239.html
Wow - this is her.
WHAT!!!! I just talked to Asia last night for about 2 hours!! This can't be right!! Asia and I used to date back in 2002. We just tried to rekindle something last night. She told me that she just got out of a relationship of 3 years of which she left her boyfriend because he was controlling and possessive. In fact, she said that they moved to Pittsburgh together. She didn't tell me that she killed the guy though!!! She just said they broke up. BUT!!! She spazzed out on me back in 2002 when I flew up to Philly to see her. We were chillin in the room and we started arguing about something and she just went bezerk!! She ran to the door and just stood there shaking like a leaf on a tree. She was crying and her nose was running profusely. I got scared and was asking her what was wrong. She said that our argument reminded her of the argument her ex had with her and he started kicking her ass real bad and she thought I was going to do that. Even after I consoled her and loved on her and assured her that I would never put my hands on her, she still was acting really weird. That could have been me! We would play wrestle and that little girl was strong as hell!!! I still can't believe it....I was just on the phone with her less than 24hrs ago. We were making plans for me to come back up there to see her. :eek:
Damn, hopefully we will get some more news on this
damn this is crazy
She'll most probably beat the charge because she was most probably acting in self-defense.
There must be some way we can all contribute to a defense fund on her behalf!
WOW crazy shit, this video of her brother telling the story is crazy
http://www.timesherald.com/articles/...5578607065.txt
i used to talk to this chick on BGC all the time...this shit is crazy
Damn! It would appear that she killed him because in addition to smacking her in the face, he gave her AIDS too!
Looks like, if one death sentence doesn't get her, the other one will! Wow! That's fucked up!
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Originally Posted by vidman
Well Vidman, You may be of help to her defense because she sure as hell going to need one. With her brother issuing the statement he did to the press it could be damaging. Asia and i met a few times. She was cool to me. i always encouraged her to take modeling further because she really enjoyed it. The way this world is now the littlest thing can be the straw that breaks the camel back. You never know what can be going through an individuals mind to make them snap. If the AIDS story turns out to be true, i guess that explains it.
Oh my God this just breaks my heart to hear this, I'll be praying for both of the families because this is devastating for both parties.I feel as transwomen we must take a little more responsibility for the choices we make in men and life and again she's in my prayers.
I truly believe that she did try to make the best choice. However, with AIDS, how in the hell can you ever be sure? It's too slippery, tricky, and deceitful of a virus.
It's destroying many members of our community. It's goes to show, you can't be too sure about anybody. You've just got to use protection all of the time!
How could we ever know what frame of mind she was in with that death sentence hanging over her head and then facing that very same person who just smacked her? That was most probably the final straw!
For making all those incriminating remarks about her, the brother must resent her.
WOW SON......... YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHEN A PERSONS BREAKING-POINT IS ABOUT TO BREAK..... VERY SAD NEWS, SHE WAS A VERY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN... MAY GOD WATCH OVER HER THRU-OUT THIS HORRIBLE TRAGEDY.... :eek:
Yeah, so true. I'm just devastated right now. I've been calling her all day hoping she would answer and to no avail. If the AIDS story is true, why would she get so relaxed with her sexual activities. When we physically met, she was dead set on using condoms. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Even during oral sex we used condoms. I'm not understanding how she just, all of a sudden, decided to relax with this guy. I just don't know. wow!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PIPE4U
hey fam, i totally disagree. i think the brother did the right thing & he was totally honestQuote:
Originally Posted by Koanbred
Honesty means something when it comes to being truthful with family, friends, neighbors, community members, and such. However, it's just in that order! Family always trumps friends, friends always trump neighbors, and neighbors always trump the people who live a couple of blocks away.
I personally would do just about anything to save my country, but not at the expense of my community. I would do just about anything to save my community, but not at the expense of my family. You see!
We as human beings should have certain loyalties that cannot be tread upon!
Do you really think that I would volunteer information about my beloved sister or brother, just for the sake of a TV station. That was just his little fifteen minutes of fame. That was all she meant to him!
What good did he do for his own sister? At the very least, he could have just kept his mouth shut and helped to get the best legal defense for his sister. However now, instead of being buried six feet in legal BS, Asia is buried twenty feet in BS, all due to his stupid-ass mouth.
Now, all we can do is pray for a miracle!
I thought it quite interesting how the authorities ignored her transgendered status.
Is there anyone here that can shed some light on what the legalities and appropriateness of that stance the authorities took is?
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Originally Posted by ty-clone
So far, I've observed her described as a transvestite (which she is not). They keep calling her a "him" and addressing her as "Tyrone Crawley". Our system of government and the media is so fucked up when it comes to respecting LGBT issues that its just ridiculous!
They could at the very least respect her correct gender.
that just ridiculous, explain how he incriminated her. all he did was tell the news what happen, then said he had to call 911 cause there a dead body in the house. and as far as him getting his 15 minutes of fame WTF. duke hardly looked into the camera, he did the whole interview from the side. sorry but your statement sounds very foolishQuote:
Originally Posted by Koanbred
WTF now in alot of cases the media dose truly disrespect the LGBT community, but in the article i posted they respected herQuote:
Originally Posted by Koanbred
its noting disrespectful about this at all, they identified her as (transgendered) not as transvestite, also (sibling) not as brother, and they called her (asia santana) not as tyrone crawley. yo fam you are really reachingQuote:
NORRISTOWN — When Trarone Crawley received a desperate call from his transgendered older sibling, Asia Dominique Santana, aka Tyrone Crawley, to come from Philadelphia to the home of a Norristown relative on the 400 block of East Moore Street Friday, he was not sure what to think.
“(Santana) is kind of a practical joker,” he explained. “But, apparently, this time she wasn’t joking.”
Santana’s relatives arrived at the location, where Santana reportedly told them she had killed 28-year-old boyfriend Eric Nevith in a domestic dispute.
“She told us she killed her boyfriend,” said Crawley. “She didn’t really got into detail; one thing led to another and they started fighting. At the end of the fight, (Nevith) was dead.”
Nothing personal with you, Ty-Clone,
But, where does he get the audacity to tell the news reporters that she said, "one thing led to another" and that, " she killed him"! Also, to tell the news reporters that she called in distress and told them (the brother and the mother) to meet her at a bar. He also tells the police and the news media that she didn't call 911 and that he had to do it. That's just plain stupid, if he really cares about his sister's well-being. That smacks of premeditated murder. The fact that you didn't call 911 yourself, means that you, in fact intended to kill the deceased. C'mon now Ty-Clone, get real with this dude, he's not acting in her best interest!
Hey look! It's ok, if you see this guy as some kinda hero. In the end, it's not going to make a damn bit of difference what we think anyway. All I'm sayin' is listen to the last 30 seconds of this guy's interview with the media. As soon as he starts talkin' about calling 911, sittin' on the steps, etc, he's starts to incriminate Asia. Just listen to it!
Otherwise, I've had my ears and eyes glued to the media ever since I got wind of it! I've observed the word "transvestite" and the words "him" and "he" have both been used when speaking of Asia.
Hey look! Bottom line, is that we both had mad love for Asia and that we hope the best for her and her family!
Love,
Koanbred
PS.
Signing off...
wooooooosaaaaaaaaa.......
So, for the record, regardless of your personal opinion, in any court room in this country, this alleged murderer will be Tyrone Crawley, aka, Asia Santana. It is the discretion of the court if it wants to enter that street name Asia Santana for the record, but I seriously doubt it!
And no doubt, when the police questioned her/him, Asia/ Tyrone, they asked for the birth name! The state will not prosecute Asia Santana, it will prosecute Tyrone Crawley!
I’ve bailed a girl from this site out of jail and she asked me to say I was there to bail her out by her birth name, which was male! Asia Santana will be prosecuted as a male, the person he/she was born as. If RuPaul had committed this crime, in court he would be charged as Rupaul Andre Charles, aka RuPaul!
However, if anything is vague between Asia/Tyrone's statement and her/his brother’s statement then all of that will be for the record and the truth will come out when the case goes to trial. In my opinion the brother should have just said no comment to the press, because anything said,especially to the press, can be subpoenaed as evidence!
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Ok, Ty-Clone!
Go to Bing.com...Now type in the search box "Asia Santana, murder, Philadelphia"
Now look for News Titles or Headings. See anything about "Transvestite" there?
That's all I'm talkin' about with respect to the media. Of course, there's the usual "him" vs. "her" stuff that you get as well.
with her being a transexual will they her put in a woman part or a male part i hope not .or a cell by her self just protect her from the men some of women.she look different for her btgirl pic but still look good....i will keep her in prayer
its noting personal as well, i guess we can agree to disagree. imo the brother handled it like a citizen should handle a tragedy regardless if its his sister or not. the fact of the matter is the bf was killed, and it seems like she had some serious issues within her. i think when a story like this comes up we tend to forget about the victim –this shit could easily be one of us. now weather it was justified well only asia her bf & god knowsQuote:
Originally Posted by Koanbred
it really doesn’t matter what he told the media, im pretty much sure he told the police the same thing. and eventually the police is obligated to release any statement made on a crime, again dose it really matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by TVSURFER
your right, i not arguing that. i was just stating that the article i posted was fair. in no ways it seems like they disrespected her as a ts/tgQuote:
Originally Posted by Koanbred
You're absolutely right! I wasn't referring to your article. I was referring to the other stuff that I had seen and heard throughout the day.
I agree with TVSurfer and Ty-Clone statements, no comment probably was the best thing to say, and she and any other ts without a name and sex change will be charged as a him. Asia will go to a male prison and many do offer segregation for HIV victims, gays, and ts if they so choose.
It's way to early for us to speculate over what happen. RIP to the deceased and may the higher powers watch over Asia. We really only know what she told her family members (which doesn't make it the truth) and what they in turn told the media, but what we do know for a fact is that she murdered him, his side of the story wont be heard. Talk of a defense fund sounds a bit premature Koanbred, do you know her personally? If so I can almost understand wanting to jump to her defense, but I dont so I rather wait until more facts are known. I've dealt with domestic violence cases before and from what I've seen the guilty call family to see them one last time with out bars in between, the innocent (self-defense) dial 911.
I'm just for Asia, right or wrong!
lol fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koanbred
Right or wrong? That's just weird. I don't know her or the facts. I don't know if you know her but I'm sure you don't know the facts. So to blindly support someone in murder, regardless of the facts, would be problematic for most people, myself included.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koanbred
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Originally Posted by seanchai
Amen seanchai.
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Asia is a transgendered woman. This society is quite cruel to the transgendered community. Most are forced to live along the margins of our society. Most have no hope to pursue a business or a legitimate profession due to their condition. Most transgendered people are harassed and ridiculed from childhood throughout their entire adult lives. Many who have not been able to suppress their true feelings till after grade school, find it easier to drop-out, so they do.
Most tgirls that I know are either on some type of financial assistance from the government, they live off of relatives, friends, or sex-work. This type of living is a direct result of being continually ostracized by society and discriminated against. For them, the cards of life have been heavily stacked against them. I therefore, sympathize with their plight completely.
In the case of Asia, it is true that I don't know her, but it is also true that there are thousands of Asias out there who have lived through hell due to employment discrimination, social rejection (all of their lives), mental and physical abuse from boyfriends, and last but certainly not least, AIDS.
Asia, I believe felt as though she had been handed the death sentence by Nevith. We don't know if Nevith knew that he had it and didn't tell it or just what the particulars were. However, I lost my sister three years ago because a stupid no good asshole who had AIDS, knew it, but didn't make her aware of it, until she got diagnosed. That's when he finally decided to admit it! Now, they're both dead!
No, I don't like the fact that someone was murdered, Lord knows I'm sick of all the murder that takes place in all our communities. I'm sick of all kinds of killing, peroid. That's why I want us out of Afganistan and Iraq right now! However, I still support our troops, right or wrong!
That's why I say, I support Asia, right or wrong!!!
It's all about Loyalties at this point...
I have known Asia since '02 (along with vman) she can be a lose cannon at times. I remember she would call it "thuggin in the streets". From what i can tell through media coverage. I find it hard for her to get off with self-defense considering mutiple stab wounds from the back. How can you defend yourself if you are stabbing a person in the back; even if you are getting your ass kicked? There are far too many holes in her story.
Koanbred, do you actually know Asia? You seem to be making some big assumptions based on what's actually been presented by those articles.
Sad to hear about this, regardless.
I've Known a Thousand Asias...
The only things that I will assume are that, the transgendered community will continue to be oppressed until far into the future and that Asia Santana is innocent until proven guilty!
I still stand in support of Asia!!!