this is how fine the line is

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ3P7HuyWeE[/ame]

Thats a butch queen not a TS no thin line at all. There is a HUGE difference between the two.... BQ's not my style at all but to each its own...:cool:

agree with Kila, all you have to do is watch the first 5 seconds to realize that.

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Thats a butch queen not a TS no thin line at all. There is a HUGE difference between the two.... BQ's not my style at all but to each its own...:cool:

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i was gettin ready to say... you couldn't pay me to watch that video
I might toss cookies all over my computer monitor.

I think that video proves 2 things: 1) if you pull a chick from Backpage or Eros you better see a nude shot of them titties :D and 2) it definitely is NOT a thin line between tg and butch queen/drag queen.

my point was the end result looks as good as if not better than alot of girls on this site and those girls kila be taking pictures of in the club. i know exactly WHAT that was but that doesnt change the fact that when yall be in the clubs looking to take tgirls home, based off what yall be claiming to like, i cant see yall not trying to holler at that (if you actually made it to the end of the video). Im aware nobody would talk to the guy in his original form, that was my whole point.

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my point was the end result looks as good as if not better than alot of girls on this site and those girls kila be taking pictures of in the club. i know exactly WHAT that was but that doesnt change the fact that when yall be in the clubs looking to take tgirls home, based off what yall be claiming to like, i cant see yall not trying to holler at that (if you actually made it to the end of the video). Im aware nobody would talk to the guy in his original form, that was my whole point.

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LOL well first time I didn't bother to watch past the 1 minute mark and barely made it that far. However; I did skip to the end this time just to see what the fuss was about. Nope, I still wouldn't take her home. If I was to have only seen the finished product and for some reason totally out of character for me didn't talk with her beforehand, I might consider her for a photoshoot. Boy chest with ridiculous amount of push-up equals no sexual interest for me though. Make-up, hair, and over-all fashion sense is on point, but the facial features are still a little too 'strong' for me personally as well.

that's amyrii (or however he/she spells it)...lives in san antonio, tx...has clips on youtube and adultspace...

I like her vids as a boy on xtube she got a good stroke lol :p

wow son......... Gotta give it up, that took one major commitment...she looks great.........

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LOL well first time I didn't bother to watch past the 1 minute mark and barely made it that far. However; I did skip to the end this time just to see what the fuss was about. Nope, I still wouldn't take her home. If I was to have only seen the finished product and for some reason totally out of character for me didn't talk with her beforehand, I might consider her for a photoshoot. Boy chest with ridiculous amount of push-up equals no sexual interest for me though. Make-up, hair, and over-all fashion sense is on point, but the facial features are still a little too 'strong' for me personally as well.

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Cosigned. No shade on him/her but thats not feminine enough nor as good as any girl I have paid OR pulled.

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Cosigned. No shade on him/her but thats not feminine enough nor as good as any girl I have paid OR pulled.

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Same here not even close...

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LOL well first time I didn't bother to watch past the 1 minute mark and barely made it that far. However; I did skip to the end this time just to see what the fuss was about. Nope, I still wouldn't take her home. If I was to have only seen the finished product and for some reason totally out of character for me didn't talk with her beforehand, I might consider her for a photoshoot. Boy chest with ridiculous amount of push-up equals no sexual interest for me though. Make-up, hair, and over-all fashion sense is on point, but the facial features are still a little too 'strong' for me personally as well.

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Remy, all due respect, you are setting yourself up to be quite an enigma! You've taken pictures that you've displayed on this site, where "girls" have had "strong" facial features! So, all the flicks you've taken of girls have not had, what you call, strong facial features? This person could have graced our site and we wouldn't have be any wiser; only you would have known the truth.
I thought this little documentary was impressive and quite original.
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http://cdns.xtube.com/u/e5/photos/20...mnloJ65jiU.jpg
http://cdns.xtube.com/u/e5/photos/20...zpuT1sHD55.jpg
http://cdns.xtube.com/u/e5/photos/20...Fl9iuJ22Te.jpg

same girl i posted on here a few months ago, yall wasnt lying when yall said she dresses up from time to time :eek:
but just off the end product she a dime

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Remy, all due respect, you are setting yourself up to be quite an enigma! You've taken pictures that you've displayed on this site, where "girls" have had "strong" facial features! So, all the flicks you've taken of girls have not had, what you call, strong facial features? This person could have graced our site and we wouldn't have be any wiser; only you would have known the truth.
I thought this little documentary was impressive and quite original.
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You quoted me and still don't understand? :confused: An enigma, really? Well I'm an odd-ball that's for sure. :p

I said I would consider her for a photoshoot, I wouldn't 'take her home' i.e. have sex with her. That doesn't mean I wouldn't give her a shoot just because I'm not attracted to her, someone else may be totally into her. Some time on a commited hormone regiment, and she can blossom for sure.

In the past when I've worked with butch queens who just "got in 'em" to work the stroll, have sex w/straight guys, and have zero desire to transition, I've always felt a bit put off by that. You can tell when someone lives their life as a woman and when someone is just trying to do it for a few hours. I rather give the opportunity to someone whose actual goals include being a transexual, taking hormones (though escorts tend to be sporadic with this for obvious reason), etc. There certainly is a market for the more 'CD' type of girls. As I've stated in another thread, I've started to grow tired of shooting girls without even some hormone tits and thus leave the bra on 'to maintain the female illusion'. If she's cute and I can see the potential, I'll give her a go in front of the lens. By the time it comes around for another shoot, I'd really hope to see some 'growth' and would be a factor (along with popularity on site) in whether I'd reshoot.

With regards specifically to 'strong features', sadly once puberty hits, hormones don't do anything to help against any prominent male bone structures, only genetics, expert application of make-up, and various medical procedures can help with that. This fact regarding HRT, is why childhood transgenderism is such a popular topic, as parents increasingly allow their kids to start Hormone Replacement during the optimal period before puberty where the results will be most pronouced in blocking typical male development and escalating typical female development. So, I wouldn't necessarily not shoot a girl with a 'cave-man' brow line, depends on how she looks over-all, a chinese bang might be just the ticket for her.

Often I think you troll just for the sake of trolling. :)

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Trolling for the sake of trolling, now that's a laugh out loud; you'll just have to take the bitter with the sweet! Just calling it like I read it, Joe!
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Trolling for the sake of trolling, now that's a laugh out loud; you'll just have to take the bitter with the sweet! Just calling it like I read it, Joe!
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Actually I don't have to take the bitter at all. I've no problem with constructive criticism, but you constantly attack me, almost every time you have anything to say toward me. You have deliberately tried to twist my words in this very thread. I clearly stated I might give her a shoot, but personally 'to take home' her features were too strong.

There's only so much harassment I will take from you. There was a time (long ago) when you informed me you would be less active on the forum due to an incident that happened previously, I asked you to stay and continue as your post are good and you're clearly a very intelligent person. Since then, all I've gotten is grief from you. I have gone out of my way for a long time to not raise any conflict with you. Difference of opinions, debates over issues, fair enough. When you verbally assualt me without provocation, I don't have to put up with that. Sooner or later my patience will wear thin. I choose to generally ignore the statements, because I hope you'll rise above the petty attitude, and still stay active on the forum, but if you want to continue down this path, I can assure you, it leads to the 'Exit' door of the forum. So if you don't have anything nice to say...

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Actually I don't have to take the bitter at all. I've no problem with constructive criticism, but you constantly attack me, almost every time you have anything to say toward me. You have deliberately tried to twist my words in this very thread. I clearly stated I might give her a shoot, but personally 'to take home' her features were too strong.

There's only so much harassment I will take from you. There was a time (long ago) when you informed me you would be less active on the forum due to an incident that happened previously, I asked you to stay and continue as your post are good and you're clearly a very intelligent person. Since then, all I've gotten is grief from you. I have gone out of my way for a long time to not raise any conflict with you. Difference of opinions, debates over issues, fair enough. When you verbally assualt me without provocation, I don't have to put up with that. Sooner or later my patience will wear thin. I choose to generally ignore the statements, because I hope you'll rise above the petty attitude, and still stay active on the forum, but if you want to continue down this path, I can assure you, it leads to the 'Exit' door of the forum. So if you don't have anything nice to say...

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This is a public forum and I think I have been sound in my rebuttals toward your posts, which I have a right to do. However, since you've been made the chief brown shirt, you do what you have to do!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ3P7HuyWeE

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I like the look after the transformation!

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my point was the end result looks as good as if not better than alot of girls on this site and those girls kila be taking pictures of in the club. i know exactly WHAT that was but that doesnt change the fact that when yall be in the clubs looking to take tgirls home, based off what yall be claiming to like, i cant see yall not trying to holler at that (if you actually made it to the end of the video). Im aware nobody would talk to the guy in his original form, that was my whole point.

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If Amyrii was parked on a stool in a crowded bar, most of the BTG membership would be snatchin' collars back tryin' to get up front to holla!
They would be hoping for a chance to take her home, so that they could sling-slop in it and all around it. They would in particular, enjoy that pussystick!

After the fact, if Amyrii began to talk transition, most psyches here would then feel appeased...Of course, on the other hand, she just might be bullshittin' just like everybody else! I fear that this line is so fine till ya just cain't even see it!

So what if, you had seen the video in reverse and it looked like she was returning from the club, late at night, and gettin' ready for bed... Would you still see her as a BQ? Would this still keep yo half-drunk, bar-hopping-ass, from bangin' it?

PS.

From the pics, it looks like she's already on hormones!

Now some of ya'll know you frontin lol:p I can respect the guys who were honest;) and it's alot of titless girls on here so stop acting like it's a deal breaker :rolleyes:

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Now some of ya'll know you frontin lol:p I can respect the guys who were honest;) and it's alot of titless girls on here so stop acting like it's a deal breaker :rolleyes:

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Tell 'em what's real Carmen!

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my point was the end result looks as good as if not better than alot of girls on this site and those girls kila be taking pictures of in the club. i know exactly WHAT that was but that doesnt change the fact that when yall be in the clubs looking to take tgirls home, based off what yall be claiming to like, i cant see yall not trying to holler at that (if you actually made it to the end of the video). Im aware nobody would talk to the guy in his original form, that was my whole point.

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I totally agree with Midwest. Amyrii looks better than many of the girls right here on BTG. She's actually quite cute. Considering that my standards are fairly high, that's quite a compliment. If you really observe the Ty pics, you will observe the curvaceous hips, the actual breast development, and the softened features. Apparently, Amyrii has already begun transitioning. This is another point of mine (not an agenda). Effeminate gay guys are quite similar to the MTF transsexuals, psychologically speaking. Your BQ today, could very well be your transsexual tomorrow. Some of the effeminate gay guys and your BQ's are the worse critics of the MTF transsexuals. Then a couple years later, you see them transitioning.

PS.

Take another look at Kilakali's signature. It may seem funny at first, but just think about it...

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I totally agree with Midwest. Amyrii looks better than many of the girls right here on BTG. She's actually quite cute. Considering that my standards are fairly high, that's quite a compliment. If you really observe the Ty pics, you will observe the curvaceous hips, the actual breast development, and the softened features. Aparently, Amyrii has already begun transitioning. This is another point of mine (not an agenda). Effeminate gay guys are quite similar to the MTF transsexuals, psychologically speaking. Your BQ today, could very well be your transsexual tomorrow. Some of the effeminate gay guys and your BQ's are the worse critics of the MTF transsexuals. Then a couple years later, you see them transitioning.

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Take another look at Kilakali's signature. It may seem funny at first, but just think about it...

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What you observe is photoshop 101.. A corset and photoshop....:rolleyes:

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What you observe is photoshop 101.. A corset and photoshop....:rolleyes:

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So therefore, are you be telling me that in Ty's 3rd pic, another body is being substituted for Amyrii's body? 'Cause there's no corset there.

Now, look at Roc's pics! See the softened facial features. Look at how the weight is distributed as she's laying down. The fatty tissues around the hips is distributed more like a woman than a man.

Now, look at her sitting on that bar stool! You mean to tell me that you wouldn't bang dat!

C'mon Kilakali, man! Really! :rolleyes:

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So therefore, are you be telling me that in Ty's 3rd pic, another body is being substituted for Amyrii's body? 'Cause there's no corset there.

Now, look at Roc's pics! See the softened facial features. Look at how the weight is distributed as she's laying down. The fatty tissues around the hips is distributed more like a woman than a man.

Now, look at her sitting on that bar stool! You mean to tell me that you wouldn't bang dat!

C'mon Kilakali, man! Really! :rolleyes:

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LOL... dude look at the 3rd pic where are these curves? Pudge doesnt count for curves and her face is definitely not soft. I see you are easily fooled by pic alterations. As Remy said to each its own. oh yeah...no i wouldnt "bang dat". I am very selective to who I will lay down with, and that person is not one of them.

P.S. Why eat bologna when you have steak?......:rolleyes:

Interesting, I actually didn't see Roc's pics of her. I skipped to the 2nd page of thread and saw Ty's pics, and in Ty pics it looks like a simple push up effect. The 3rd pic from Roc's set with the pink heels, which is hot on her, her ass does look like it may have been pumped. Still, I don't get drunk, I don't 'club hop' and I still wouldn't have sex with her. Nothing wrong with those that will, I'm picky.

So now Koanbred, not only do we have to support every tgirl you want us to support, but we also have to want to fuck all the tgirls you want to fuck? :confused: Sorry not happening, put up a pic of Yasmine Lee, Natalia, Nadia, Tameka, Jayla, hell and many others and ask me again :D

Ehh, whatever. I would fuck. But again, im weird since I prefer chicks who are more cd'ish/less cartoonish.

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Interesting, I actually didn't see Roc's pics of her. I skipped to the 2nd page of thread and saw Ty's pics, and in Ty pics it looks like a simple push up effect. The 3rd pic from Roc's set with the pink heels, which is hot on her, her ass does look like it may have been pumped. Still, I don't get drunk, I don't 'club hop' and I still wouldn't have sex with her. Nothing wrong with those that will, I'm picky.

So now Koanbred, not only do we have to support every tgirl you want us to support, but we also have to want to fuck all the tgirls you want to fuck? :confused: Sorry not happening, put up a pic of Yasmine Lee, Natalia, Nadia, Tameka, Jayla, hell and many others and ask me again :D

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I am not going to discuss the support issue anymore. However, within the scope of reality, I would like to be able to say, "Hey! To each his own", I can envision what they're saying!

However, I just can't! I think you guys are straight trippin'!

Amyrii is beautiful! I'd bang her in a heartbeat! I'd certainly bang her before at least, one of the girls that you named! Hey! Different strokes for different folks!

I remember ridin' in cars with other guys before as a passenger. We all were just passin' the time of day, just cruisin' around looking at the girls. We used to always have debates about what girl was prettier than another girl. It seems we always disagreed. I guess that's why we all chose different women to marry even though our circle was fairly small.

Hell, I remember one time when one of the guys thought that some girl was absolutely gorgeous! However, the rest of us all unanimously agreed that she was butt-ugly. At first, everytime we saw them together, we would just crack-up laughing. What we didn't expect, was that he would eventually marry her. After some passage of time, she appeared to be more appealing to us and she wasn't so ugly anymore.

I guess, beauty is really in the eye of the beholder! Especially if the beholder really wants to behold it! :rolleyes:

lol at dis thread but amyrii has a manish face and i dnt like ts with manish faces point case is she a bq end of story

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lol at dis thread but amyrii has a manish face and i dnt like ts with manish faces point case is she a bq end of story

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Ok, Pretty_Boi!

So there is a pic or two where she does appear to have a dudish-looking face. However, there are other pics where her face looks absolutely soft, pretty, and effeminate. To me, she looks twice as good as many of the BTG models. I think she's gorgeous!

On the other hand, I've seen effeminate gay guys that I would bang too! In fact, I've banged a couple guys who just looked really pretty, but weren't crossdressed or anything. They just looked like really pretty, soft, and effeminate guys. Of course, in each case, they both had long black hair and were wearing women's jewelry, and lip gloss. They were really pretty! To me, they looked more like females than males and were dressed sort of on the androgynous side.

As long as they look attractive, have no facial hair, are soft and effeminate-looking, they're good to go as far as I'm concerned.

I definitely would have banged Amyrii long before she picked up her puppy!;)

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Ok, Pretty_Boi!

So there is a pic or two where she does appear to have a dudish-looking face. However, there are other pics where her face looks absolutely soft, pretty, and effeminate. To me, she looks twice as good as many of the BTG models. I think she's gorgeous!

On the other hand, I've seen effeminate gay guys that I would bang too! In fact, I've banged a couple guys who just looked really pretty, but weren't crossdressed or anything. They just looked like really pretty, soft, and effeminate guys. Of course, in each case, they both had long black hair and were wearing women's jewelry, and lip gloss. They were really pretty! To me, they looked more like females than males and were dressed sort of on the androgynous side.

As long as they look attractive, have no facial hair, are soft and effeminate-looking, they're good to go as far as I'm concerned.

I definitely would have banged Amyrii long before she picked up her puppy!;)

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lol the pics that she had that looked "soft or femenine" were photoshopped amyrii photoshops alot of her pics she even had a couple on xtube where she had photoshopped her penis off to make her look like a girl but it is what it is beauty is in da eye of the beholder

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lol the pics that she had that looked "soft or femenine" were photoshopped amyrii photoshops alot of her pics she even had a couple on xtube where she had photoshopped her penis off to make her look like a girl but it is what it is beauty is in da eye of the beholder

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Well, I still like her, BQ or not! I still think that she's gorgeous and I probably would even like her more for her creative photoshoppin' skills.

We're all GLBT fam here anyway, so it doesn't really make any difference.

Hell! One day it's filet mignon, the next day it's T-bone steak, and another day, you just gotta have that bologna, baby!

It's all just so yum yum yummy good to me! *Slurps while salivating*:p

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I am not going to discuss the support issue anymore. However, within the scope of reality, I would like to be able to say, "Hey! To each his own", I can envision what they're saying!

However, I just can't! I think you guys are straight trippin'!

Amyrii is beautiful! I'd bang her in a heartbeat! I'd certainly bang her before at least, one of the girls that you named! Hey! Different strokes for different folks!

I remember ridin' in cars with other guys before as a passenger. We all were just passin' the time of day, just cruisin' around looking at the girls. We used to always have debates about what girl was prettier than another girl. It seems we always disagreed. I guess that's why we all chose different women to marry even though our circle was fairly small.

Hell, I remember one time when one of the guys thought that some girl was absolutely gorgeous! However, the rest of us all unanimously agreed that she was butt-ugly. At first, everytime we saw them together, we would just crack-up laughing. What we didn't expect, was that he would eventually marry her. After some passage of time, she appeared to be more appealing to us and she wasn't so ugly anymore.

I guess, beauty is really in the eye of the beholder! Especially if the beholder really wants to behold it! :rolleyes:

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Now If you are reffering to Nadia then you are "straight trippin"..:rolleyes:

naudia is the most beautiful ts ive personally ever seen i ve seen some that come close but she has em all beat there is no body fuckin with her when it comes to beauty she is flawless cant wait till she gets more exposure and more experince in da industry ;)

Now there are two Nadias of which I'm aware. There's Nadia(A) and Nadia(B)!


I didn't know that Nadia(A) existed before now! My bad! Where is this Nadia(A)?


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*Picks himself up from trippin'* Damn! I gotta watch that last step, it was a LOOLOO!



Nadia(A) and there's Nadia(B)

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Now there are two Nadias of which I'm aware. There's Nadia(A):Attachment 6907


and there's Nadia(B):Attachment 6908


I didn't know that Nadia(A) existed before now! My bad! Where is this Nadia(A)?

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*Picks himself up from trippin'* Damn! I gotta watch that last step, it was a LOOLOO!

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Click and enjoy.....:D

http://www.black-tgirls.com/forum/sh...ighlight=nadia

Hey Kilakali!

Thanks man! I just had a small trip there. Hopefully, it won't happen again...

This Nadia is really somethin' else, man she is ROCK'N IT!!!

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Yeah, I'd definitely bang her first!

lol koanbred, you the type that makes things harder for people with higher standards lol jk. but amyrii is an anomaly to most probably. nadia is nice. and brittany foxx is still in my top 3, i have to meet her Kila!

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xtube loads for you? stopped loading for me a while ago.